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Get in the Hole! 2017 Season!

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  • TheDartTheDart Member Posts: 1,581
    edited April 2014
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2014 Season! (The MASTERS):
    On another note anybody thinking of backing Jason day. He hasnt played a competitive round for 6 weeks and a stroke play event for 8 weeks due to a thumb injury. It's likely he'll have to have this strapped for the event.
    Posted by jdsallstar
    Personally I think Jason Day is as much a favorite as Scott, Mcllroy and Mickleson.

    You've pointed out the reasonable doubt over all 4, which in my mind makes all 4 poor value.

    Though I have a feeling of dread that actually 12/1 ew on Rory Mcllroy could turn out to be a very good bet.

    If I adopted a different strategy than my scattergun portfolio and just limited myself to back 3 or 4, I think Rory may well have been one of my star picks.

    It's just that long term I don't believe backing the favorites in golf tournaments is a winning strategy.

    Take Tiger Woods at his peak, even then he was 'only' winning on average one major a year.

    I'll stick with my bigger value picks with the aim of getting a place at 50/1 or more to get my 12/1 return.




  • FlashFlushFlashFlush Member Posts: 4,494
    edited April 2014
    OK then I give in... As i said last week, I like the idea of picking out the 3 figure players. Well this guy is just a legend, he has played this course more than most, and as we know that's a huge advantage. His form has been indifferent this year, but a T13 at the Cadillac in his last normal strokeplay event says there is something there ready. That man is the Ferrari driving, cuban cigar smoking Miguel Angel Jimenez @200/1
  • jdsallstarjdsallstar Member Posts: 1,675
    edited April 2014
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2014 Season! (The MASTERS):
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2014 Season! (The MASTERS) : Personally I think Jason Day is as much a favorite as Scott, Mcllroy and Mickleson. You've pointed out the reasonable doubt over all 4, which in my mind makes all 4 poor value. Though I have a feeling of dread that actually 12/1 ew on Rory Mcllroy could turn out to be a very good bet. If I adopted a different strategy than my scattergun portfolio and just limited myself to back 3 or 4, I think Rory may well have been one of my star picks. It's just that long term I don't believe backing the favorites in golf tournaments is a winning strategy. Take Tiger Woods at his peak, even then he was 'only' winning on average one major a year. I'll stick with my bigger value picks with the aim of getting a place at 50/1 or more to get my 12/1 return.
    Posted by TheDart

    If I had to back any of those four it would be Day I think despite the injury.

    I think there's just too much doubt over those 3 to be putting money on people in the w/out the favourites market. 

    Totally agree about picking favourites not being a good strategy in general though. I normally go for 2nd tier people I leave the real outsiders for you and flash lol 

    Matt Jones was a long odds punt of mine week after week with no return and then he finally lands one when I've nothing on him to knock the guy I do have money off top spot! #bitter 



  • vaigretvaigret Member Posts: 16,380
    edited April 2014
    added Justin Rose 33-1
  • splashiessplashies Member Posts: 3,680
    edited April 2014
    Not sure if I'm having a bet yet. But for any newbies to the thread that want some decent tips (fully intended to offend the thread regs ) ........

    This guy is on the live show on 861 tonight and is one of the best around.

  • millwise11millwise11 Member Posts: 656
    edited April 2014
    Selection Details 
    Class/SportEvent TypeEventMarketDateSelectionNotes
    GolfUS Masters 2014US Masters 2014 OutrightWithout Favourite10/04/2014 13:00Zach Johnson @ 22/1 (Each Way: 1/4 for first 5 places.)Without Scott McIlroy and Mickelson. 
  • wynne1938wynne1938 Member Posts: 20,556
    edited April 2014
    Masters                      Outright                   First round leader           Top 10

    Sergio Garcia              22/1                       25/1                                 15/8
    Brandt  Snedekar        35/1                      40/1                                  3/1
    Jason Dufner               40/1                      45/1                                  7/2
    Hunter Mahan               45/1                     50/1                                  4/1
    Rickie Fowler                 66/1                     55/1                                   5/1
    Gary Woodland              75/1                      66/1                                     7/1

    £38 staked

  • TheDartTheDart Member Posts: 1,581
    edited April 2014
    Well played on the Mini Turbo win Splashies!!!

    After last week, I had to smile when I saw your final winning hand was pocket 5's :-)

    Maybe treat yourself to a £1 ew on The Masters now!
  • a00rocka00rock Member Posts: 832
    edited April 2014
    I always back Westwood (obviously throwing money away) to win his 1st major the 1st time I don't he will win lol maybe its me jinxing him but he has been in relatively poor form recently improving last time out. So this time I have gone with the Sky Bet 18/1 for  Watney Mahan or Westwood to win, fingers crossed.

    Gl all.
  • TheDartTheDart Member Posts: 1,581
    edited April 2014
    Good fantasy golf competition can be found on the link below if anyone is interested.

    It's £20 per team, starts with the Masters and is a decent format that gives you a chance to stay competitive well into the season.

    http://golf.fantasyleague.com
  • splashiessplashies Member Posts: 3,680
    edited April 2014
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2014 Season! (The MASTERS):
    Well played on the Mini Turbo win Splashies!!! After last week, I had to smile when I saw your final winning hand was pocket 5's :-) Maybe treat yourself to a £1 ew on The Masters now!
    Posted by TheDart
    Thanks mate. I was playing on the new classic view so theres no chat box on that, so apologies if you wished me well.

    Once I got a stack I managed to bully all the shorties and everything worked out well. And yes I ♥ 55 now :D

    Will probably back all the tips in the link I posted above as I've been out of the loop for a while.
  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited April 2014
    Nice bink splashman.

    Takes a special calibre of player to win the turbo mini!

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    Having just watched the masters preview with Channing I've taken his tip and had a tenner on Jiminez top senior @ 5/2.

    Didn't bother with Els as none of the panel seemed to fancy him.

    Fowler & G-Mac ew @ 66/1 to win.
  • jdsallstarjdsallstar Member Posts: 1,675
    edited April 2014
    Congrats on the win Splashies! WP

    Tempted by the missed cut money back special market for a few of the debutants/outsiders.

    e.g.

    Matt Jones - normal market 150/1, missed cut 125/1
    P Reed - normal 60/1, missed cut 50/1
    J Walker - normal 66/1, missed cut 60/1
    M Every - normal 150/1, missed cut 125/1
    H English - normal 60/1, missed cut 50/1

    Might pick two of these!

  • FlashFlushFlashFlush Member Posts: 4,494
    edited April 2014
    I've decided to venture out into the Mexico Championship as well for the lols. Hunter Haas at 66/1 doubled with Kuch and Jimenez
  • jdsallstarjdsallstar Member Posts: 1,675
    edited April 2014
    Just for fun bets
                                           Odds          Stake         Returns
    Fred Couples Miss Cut 2.62 £1.00 £2.63
    Joost Luiten Miss Cut  2.5 £1.00 £2.50
    Keegan Bradley Miss Cut  3.75 £1.00 £3.75
    Louis Oosthuizen Miss Cut 2.25 £1.00 £2.25
    Jamie Donaldson Miss Cut 2.62 £1.00 £2.63
    Gonzalo F-Castano Miss Cut 2.1 £1.00 £2.10
    Thomas Bjorn Miss Cut  2.2 £1.00 £2.20
    Victor Dubuisson Miss Cut  2.25 £1.00 £2.25
    Darren Clarke Make Cut 3 £1.00 £3.00
    Martin Kaymer Miss Cut  2.2 £1.00 £2.20
    Total   10 25.51

    Darren Clarke to make cut is blind loyalty!!
  • MP33MP33 Member Posts: 6,300
    edited April 2014
    I,m back for the Masters 

    Put some bets on e few weeks ago , luckily when tiger was favourite

    These are my tips bets ( Cant see but Bill Haas was £3 at 90,s)

    Event: US Masters Bet: Winner Selection: Haas, BillStraight Bet90/1Cash Bet3.00 €
    270.00 €
    273.00 €




    Placed (matched)Order by Matched Date

    Back (Bet For)OddsStakeProfit
    Zach Johnson42£3.00
    £123.00
     
    Charl Schwartzel38£3.00
    £111.00
     
    Hunter Mahan75£0.79
    £58.46
     
    Hunter Mahan75£2.21
    £163.54
     
    David Lynn580£3.00
    £1,737.00



    GL with it guys - - Just hope the stream works i,vbeen given for Thursday and Friday 


    EDIT :

    Placed (matched)

    Back (Bet For)OddsStakeProfit
    US Masters 2014
    Phil Mickelson1st Round Leader34£2.50
    £82.50
    Ref: 36088637832M Matched: 04:04 10-Apr-14
    Ps If anyones got a few quid you can back Haas at 90/1 on Youwin and lay him on betfair at 80,s - Not sure how long that will last tho

    EDIT last one for now

    Back (Bet For)OddsStakeProfitUS Masters 2014Dustin JohnsonWinner30£3.00
    £87.00
    Ref: 36088665378M Matched: 04:09 10-Apr-14

    EDIT _ Defffo last one . He seems to be going in - in price but still a good price

    MatchedDescriptionTypeOddsStake (£)Liability (£)StatusPotential Profit (£)
    10 Apr 14
    04:22
    US Masters 2014
    Gary Woodland - Winner
     Back70.002.00
    ---
    Matched138.00
    10 Apr 14
    04:21
    US Masters 2014
    Gary Woodland - 1st Round Leader
     Back70.002.00
    ---
    Matched138.00
  • jdsallstarjdsallstar Member Posts: 1,675
    edited April 2014
    Ok very last ones for me lol

    money back missed cut special bets:

    Jamie Donaldson 100/1
    Jimmy Wlaker        60/1
    Matt Every           125/1

    All £1 ew


  • jdsallstarjdsallstar Member Posts: 1,675
    edited April 2014
    Ok just so I can keep all my bets in one post for me to refer back to I'm reposting them all again:

    Outrights
    Charl Schwartzel       33/1 £2.50 ew (£5 free bet) -  LOST
    Zach Johnson           35/1 £1 ew                        - LOST
    Graeme McDowell      66/1 £1 ew                        - LOST

    Outrights (money back missed cut specials)
    Jamie Donaldson 100/1                                     - CURRENTLY T10
    Jimmy Wlaker        60/1                                    - CURRENTLY T7
    Matt Every           125/1                                     - £2.00

    First Round Leaders
    Matt Kuchar              28/1 £1 ew                         - LOST
    Bubba Watson          33/1 £1 ew                         - £9.25
    Jim Furyk                 60/1 £2.5 ew                      - LOST

    Miss/make cuts
    Fred Couples              Miss Cut           2.62   £1.00  - LOST
    Joost Luiten               Miss Cut           2.5     £1.00  - LOST
    Keegan Bradley          Miss Cut           3.75   £1.00  - £3.75
    Louis Oosthuizen        Miss Cut           2.25   £1.00  - LOST
    Jamie Donaldson        Miss Cut           2.62   £1.00  - LOST
    Gonzalo F-Castano      Miss Cut           2.1     £1.00 - LOST
    Thomas Bjorn             Miss Cut           2.2     £1.00  - LOST
    Victor Dubuisson          Miss Cut          2.25   £1.00   - £2.25
    Darren Clarke             Make Cut         3        £1.00   - £3.00
    Martin Kaymer             Miss Cut          2.2     £1.00  - LOST

    Total Punt is £29 and a £5 free bet.

    End of round 2 update:
    Returns so far - £20.25 (running loss of £7,75)

    Only two bets still running - Jimmy walker and Jamie Donaldson

  • TheDartTheDart Member Posts: 1,581
    edited April 2014

    The bookies made me do it!

    I've added:

    Henrik Stenson - 33/1, seemingly friendless in the market, so the bookies have pushed his price out and lured me in.
    A few years ago I was convinced this was The Major for Henrik Stenson, he's had his moments, but has definitely underachieved here. Interesting to read this week that Henrik himself feels Augusta suits his game.
    If the buzz of the years first Major can give Henrik that little bit of oomph (I'm sure it will) to get back to the level he was 6 months ago, it could be another record for Sweden's no. 1 golfer.

    Ryan Moore - 100/1, I backed him before he took on the jinx of winning the par competition. Deffinitely has good pedigree around here. Phil Mickleson reckons if conditions turn out as he expects, (infamous Augusta greens at their most challenging), there will only be around a dozen in the field that can win this week, some players in that bracket are obvious,  I think Ryan Moore could be one of Micklenson's dozen and at 100/1 is the best value.



    Toooo Looooong Shots....

    Scott Stallings - 250/1, what a bizarre record this guy has.

    I don't think I have seen so many missed cuts in a season, from a guy who suddenly turns up one week and out of nowhere wins the tournament!

    In 2011, 12 missed cuts in 20 and 1 win.
    In 2012, 17 stroke play tournaments, 12 missed cuts, a withdrawal and  a win.
    In 2103, 14 missed cuts, but 4 top 5 finishes.
    In 2014, 11 stroke play events played, 7 missed cuts, T45th, T47th, T58th and naturally a win!

    He's played Augusts once in 2012, finished tied 27th, which included a 2nd round 77, which isn't too shabby for a debutant.

    Whatever is it that needs to click for Scott Stallings, when it does click it clearly clicks better than most guys.

    I'll take my chances at 250/1.


    Tim Clark - 300/, admittedly no recent form, but has some very good course form. Course form and 300/1 tick the speculative bet option.

    Sang Moon Bae - 350/1, played the Masters in 2012 and tied 37th, opened with a 75, closed with a 77, but put in two very good rounds of 69 and 71 in between.
    He's a very good putter, I just have a hunch that from the 'no hopers' bracket he could give me a run for my money.

  • TheDartTheDart Member Posts: 1,581
    edited April 2014

    Well it is Christmas Day for golfing fans, so I've treated myself to a 'few' first round leader bets.....

    Dustin Johnson - 33/1
    Henrik Stenson - 33/1
    Hunter Mahan - 50/1
    Ryan Moore - 80/1
    Graham DeLaet - 80/1
    Thorbjorn Olesen - 90/1
    Nick Watney - 90/1
    Matt Jones - 100/1
    Scott Stallings - 150/1
    Tim Clark - 175/1
    Sang Moon Bae - 200/1



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