Hey Dev, unlucky in this hand, but i would maybe have a look at your bet sizing.
Pre flop is fine, raise call the 3 bet.
On the flop, we have hut it so big, i would be betting big here to take control of the hand. I know it's a donk bet, but i'd be quite happy to raise to see where I am here. On the turn we are betting 1/3rd pot bet, opponent is probably calling here with any 2 cards, this bet isn't going to achieve anything.
On the flop i would have bet, 3/4 - pot size bet, if theres any raise, i'd be happy to be gettingit in.
Chances are he would call 1 street.
On the turn again i would be betting 3/4 - pot sized bet, there's no way opponent would have been calling this.
I would be betting about 2 pound on the flop and about 5.50-£6 on the turn.
Hand 2 we have a monster, i would be re-raising this significantly to build value, as it turns out a bit of a cooler, but with big starting hands we need to really build value and ramp the pressure up on our opponents.
Hey Dev, unlucky in this hand, but i would maybe have a look at your bet sizing. Pre flop is fine, raise call the 3 bet. On the flop, we have hut it so big, i would be betting big here to take control of the hand. I know it's a donk bet, but i'd be quite happy to raise to see where I am here. On the turn we are betting 1/3rd pot bet, opponent is probably calling here with any 2 cards, this bet isn't going to achieve anything. On the flop i would have bet, 3/4 - pot size bet, if theres any raise, i'd be happy to be gettingit in. Chances are he would call 1 street. On the turn again i would be betting 3/4 - pot sized bet, there's no way opponent would have been calling this. I would be betting about 2 pound on the flop and about 5.50-£6 on the turn. Tho, very unlucky. Posted by LARSON7
i'm tired and not sure which hand you are talking about mate. i'll come back and have another look tomorrow. i'm cream crackerd now...time for bed. night dev
Good stuff Dev! How many tables are you playing at 10nl? As i said before i am confident you can more than beat this level, you are a really good player and know what you are doing at the tables, you know when to fold and how to get value. Is it maybe best sticking to 1/ 2 tables at 10nl, till you have worked this level out? I'm sure there is slight differences between the 2. From my experience, there is a bit more bluffing at 10nl, a bit better play, people are more likely to be making moves (compared to 4nl). In saying that, there is still a lot of bad play, and a lot of situations that can be easily exploited. You could even mix it up playing a bit of 4nl at the same time as 10nl multi-tabling which would aleviate any boredom. I don't tend to take "notes" unless its really obvious stuff like "shoves after 3x raise with AA". But it might be a good idea to sit down at the table, work out the dynamics, who is doing what, and how they are playing to geta picture on they play before getting really involved in the table just to get a grasp of things. If i have the time, i have now started looking at hands after they have been played to see what a player has, how they bet and what their tendencies are. Good luck Dev Posted by LARSON7
thanks mate, i'm playing 2/4 tables atm any more and i'm simply playing the cards and not really taking alot of notice of what's going on. i'm really happy with how i played both days even though i'm sure i made some errors but that's to be expected i guess but i feel quite at home plating there atm. so i'll be back tomorrow i guess. off to bed mate. i'll post up more tomorrow/today. lol dev
how you coping with the cash at 10nl now you enjoying it better?
also i`m back down to 10nl for a few days been playing bad l8ly at 20/30nl and no really got goin either breaking even or losing a cpl bi`s been goin on for about a fortnight so bak to where I have prob played most of my cash hopefully get a few winning sessions under my belt help with the confidence.
hey dev think i`m the villian in hand 1 vul. how you coping with the cash at 10nl now you enjoying it better? also i`m back down to 10nl for a few days been playing bad l8ly at 20/30nl and no really got goin either breaking even or losing a cpl bi`s been goin on for about a fortnight so bak to where I have prob played most of my cash hopefully get a few winning sessions under my belt help with the confidence. gl at tables buddy Posted by liamboi11
hi Liam, thanks mate,yeah it was you mate but no worries,you had the best hand p/f.thought i had you though. lol that **** King. yeah,really enjoyed the last 2 days,starting to think a bit more about situations,especially position,when not to go with hands out of position,etc,.ex;even folded AK to cash_daddy's 50p raise when i was in sm blind one hand. lol wouldn't normally but we both were deep stacked and i know what animals both he and yourself are. lol (especially after i'd just lost that all-in against you.) lol
i also have learnt to 'play my own game' if you like,ie;play less tables like 4 max,(under advice..wink wink), as this helps with not only following what's going on more on each table, but also stops me from loading up my usual 9 that i was playing before,and trying to 'out do' cash_crazy,etc. lol (not a good idea i found out to my cost...like £100 lol) i'm still making mistakes i know, but i think i'm learning from playing here,and i would just like to thank ARAZI for his help in getting me back here again...thanks buddy.
yes mate,confidence plays a big part in poker doesn't it,and without it it's a nightmare,as i know. you've done the right thing dropping levels and i'm sure you'll be winning again on your old stomping ground,as i'm pretty sure you did last night...with more than a little help from yours truly. lol (i know i go on about it,but being 'properly' rolled for each level is so important imo,that's why even with just over 30 buy-ins for nl10 i know a few bad sessions and i'd have to drop back down again.hopefully though that's not going to happen again this time though!!! lols)
no doubt see you at the tables soon mate. best wishes,run good (* *) ^ dev
thanks larson for all your posts mate. yes i'm still working on my bet sizes as i need to. lol and also raising rather than checking when i hit big. it's all a 'work in progress' and still got a long way to go.
actually enjoyed playing nl10 though this weekend..not sure if it'll last lol.
best wishes buddy. i'm sure it won't be to many days away before i see you at one or more of my tables. lols (wink wink)
yeah m8 just keep at the cash as I said before you are more than gd enough to beat this level and also yeah most a play is 6 tables, any more i`m just clicking buttons but i`ve been playin 6 tables on cash for about 8-9mths now.
I`ve also learned in the last year or so that BR is so important I used to play 50nl about year and half ago with 20 bi`s and whatever I won over that in a week I withdrew done ok for cpl months then one week lost like 11 bi`s and withdrew and went in a huff lol.but now I play cash with no less than 40 bi`s and drop down when running or playin bad which I never used to so must be learning something.
arazi is a good solid player if you are gettin free advice from him take it all on board and also tell him to pm me also I would happily take advice off him lol, but also he is a true gentleman at table never seen him moan about bad beats and always happy 2 chat need more like him at the tables imo.
not sayin i`m great but if you ever want advice of me regarding anything to do with 10nl just let me know m8 gl at tables.
yeah m8 just keep at the cash as I said before you are more than gd enough to beat this level and also yeah most a play is 6 tables, any more i`m just clicking buttons but i`ve been playin 6 tables on cash for about 8-9mths now. I`ve also learned in the last year or so that BR is so important I used to play 50nl about year and half ago with 20 bi`s and whatever I won over that in a week I withdrew done ok for cpl months then one week lost like 11 bi`s and withdrew and went in a huff lol.but now I play cash with no less than 40 bi`s and drop down when running or playin bad which I never used to so must be learning something. arazi is a good solid player if you are gettin free advice from him take it all on board and also tell him to pm me also I would happily take advice off him lol, but also he is a true gentleman at table never seen him moan about bad beats and always happy 2 chat need more like him at the tables imo. not sayin i`m great but if you ever want advice of me regarding anything to do with 10nl just let me know m8 gl at tables. Posted by liamboi11
hi Liam, nice post mate. yes it's so easy to get carried away with it all when you are on a winning run isn't it,and you feel like no one can beat you. then reality kicks in. lol
yes i like 100 buy-ins ideally but i know that's not easy to always get so i'll change that to 50 for cash. lols yes ARAZI is a great guy isn't he,and he really has helped me and given me the confidence to get back there and try again. thanks mate,might just take you up on your offer for advice...god knows i need it. i'll pass on massage to ARAZI...'you need help' lols gl buddy dev
only got myself to blame played from 6.30pm to 3.30 am 9 hrs too long
always thought this would happen...again. just got no self discipline i guess. i should be upset but i'm not as it's my own fault. i guess playing with money won makes it easier to take.
don't know where i go from here,as this is a recurring problem and i don't know how i can fix it. anyway,time for bed and i'll see how i feel tomorrow... tired i think. lol
Seems a lot of people struggling with moving from 4 />10nl. Might be worth posting some of the losing hands on this thread, the decent 10nl and 20nl players could then tell you where you went wrong. I mean its all well and good rebuilding at 4nl, but if you dont know why you lost then it will just happen again. Good to have given it a shot though, unlike me the bankroll nit still at 4nl lol Posted by calcalfold
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Hey Dev, unlucky in this hand, but i would maybe have a look at your bet sizing.
Pre flop is fine, raise call the 3 bet.
On the flop, we have hut it so big, i would be betting big here to take control of the hand. I know it's a donk bet, but i'd be quite happy to raise to see where I am here. On the turn we are betting 1/3rd pot bet, opponent is probably calling here with any 2 cards, this bet isn't going to achieve anything.
On the flop i would have bet, 3/4 - pot size bet, if theres any raise, i'd be happy to be gettingit in.
Chances are he would call 1 street.
On the turn again i would be betting 3/4 - pot sized bet, there's no way opponent would have been calling this.
I would be betting about 2 pound on the flop and about 5.50-£6 on the turn.
Tho, very unlucky.
Hand 3,Just very unlucky, total cooler.
i'll come back and have another look tomorrow.
i'm cream crackerd now...time for bed.
night
dev
i'm playing 2/4 tables atm any more and i'm simply playing the cards and not really taking alot of notice of what's going on.
i'm really happy with how i played both days even though i'm sure i made some errors but that's to be expected i guess but i feel quite at home plating there atm. so i'll be back tomorrow i guess.
off to bed mate.
i'll post up more tomorrow/today. lol
dev
thanks mate,yeah it was you mate but no worries,you had the best hand p/f.thought i had you though. lol
that **** King.
yeah,really enjoyed the last 2 days,starting to think a bit more about situations,especially position,when not to go with hands out of position,etc,.ex;even folded AK to cash_daddy's 50p raise when i was in sm blind one hand. lol wouldn't normally but we both were deep stacked and i know what animals both he and yourself are. lol (especially after i'd just lost that all-in against you.) lol
i also have learnt to 'play my own game' if you like,ie;play less tables like 4 max,(under advice..wink wink), as this helps with not only following what's going on more on each table, but also stops me from loading up my usual 9 that i was playing before,and trying to 'out do' cash_crazy,etc. lol (not a good idea i found out to my cost...like £100 lol)
i'm still making mistakes i know, but i think i'm learning from playing here,and i would just like to thank ARAZI for his help in getting me back here again...thanks buddy.
yes mate,confidence plays a big part in poker doesn't it,and without it it's a nightmare,as i know.
you've done the right thing dropping levels and i'm sure you'll be winning again on your old stomping ground,as i'm pretty sure you did last night...with more than a little help from yours truly. lol
(i know i go on about it,but being 'properly' rolled for each level is so important imo,that's why even with just over 30 buy-ins for nl10 i know a few bad sessions and i'd have to drop back down again.hopefully though that's not going to happen again this time though!!! lols)
no doubt see you at the tables soon mate.
best wishes,run good
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^
dev
yes i'm still working on my bet sizes as i need to. lol
and also raising rather than checking when i hit big.
it's all a 'work in progress' and still got a long way to go.
actually enjoyed playing nl10 though this weekend..not sure if it'll last lol.
best wishes buddy.
i'm sure it won't be to many days away before i see you at one or more of my tables. lols (wink wink)
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^
dev
nice post mate.
yes it's so easy to get carried away with it all when you are on a winning run isn't it,and you feel like no one can beat you.
then reality kicks in. lol
yes i like 100 buy-ins ideally but i know that's not easy to always get so i'll change that to 50 for cash. lols
yes ARAZI is a great guy isn't he,and he really has helped me and given me the confidence to get back there and try again.
thanks mate,might just take you up on your offer for advice...god knows i need it.
i'll pass on massage to ARAZI...'you need help' lols
gl buddy
dev
lost £70.14
b/roll £253.14
only got myself to blame
played from 6.30pm to 3.30 am 9 hrs too long
always thought this would happen...again.
just got no self discipline i guess.
i should be upset but i'm not as it's my own fault.
i guess playing with money won makes it easier to take.
don't know where i go from here,as this is a recurring problem and i don't know how i can fix it.
anyway,time for bed and i'll see how i feel tomorrow...
tired i think. lol
dev
Might be worth posting some of the losing hands on this thread, the decent 10nl and 20nl players could then tell you where you went wrong.
I mean its all well and good rebuilding at 4nl, but if you dont know why you lost then it will just happen again.
Good to have given it a shot though, unlike me the bankroll nit still at 4nl lol
you know what.
anyway,i'm feeling ok so no worries.
as i've said i've only got myself to blame,so it's back to the drawing board again. lol
just had a quick look at no, of hands over £3 won and lost..
hands lost 14
hands won 19
don't know what to make of that?
probably not getting enough value i guess.