Hey Mate, Unlucky with the losses it will soon turn around. I've nominated you for the forum game *at the top of the page* There would not be a more deserving person than you. I just had a brutal session 2, bit of playing bad and my last hand i ran a set of 6s, into a turned set of 7s. Good luck mate Posted by LARSON7
thanks mate, yeah,no worries. thanks for the nomination buddy.
not much you can do when you lose set v set is there. ul it's all there to test us. lol
1. fold some of them J9 like hands, useless no need to play them 2. don't 3 bet 10's etc.. if you don't wanna get it all in - just flat - 3. don't overplay JJ on a Q1010 flop - what's going to call you - 99 ? 4. you don't seem to understand the concept that your hand may be beaten and struggle to fold big hands or what you beleive to be big hands - sometimes we have to fold or bet fold
You need to lay down a fundamental strategy (tight) to beat this level - certain range from certain postions opening and raising accordingly You doing some off the cuff stuff - "o ok I'll call - you never know"
A couple of tweaks and you will start beating the level
1. tighten up whole range early position 2. play big hands aggressivly pre and flop - do not trap unless you have quads ) 3. play marginals and mid prs with caution - open raise but don't 3 bet them 4. if you think your beat then fold (no shame in folding)
get the basic tight aggro game going and then you can open up some of your range etc..
Everything they said above, and like Doh said, they really are easy leaks to fix. All the fundamentals you learn for 4NL are still there in 10NL too.
1) Stop slowplaying
2) Keep bluffing to a minimum.
3) When you get raised by a passive player, re-assess how good your hand really is.
4) When you've got a big hand pre or post, just bet bet bet!
You're standard sizing postflop in most spots is gonna be around the 65-75% of the pot. Don't be betting like 30% pot cos you're scared they'll fold. If they got something to call with, then they'll call, if they got complete junk they'll probably fold to any bet anyway.
Forget worrying about losing your customer, your job is to make big hands and get maximum value when you do. One thing I've noticed is you like clicking back bets, just don't do this apart from in exceptional circumstances. For one, they look SO strong and while most won't notice this, more importantly it's just losing tons of value. If you're raising with say a FD then you want FE with it otherwise it's probably a losing play and if you're raising for value then you don't want them to put in an extra £1 you want them to put in an extra £2.50 or whatever. It comes back to worrying about losing your customer, if people will call a raise, they'll call more than a clickback.
just browsed - so many hands few pointers 1. fold some of them J9 like hands, useless no need to play them 2. don't 3 bet 10's etc.. if you don't wanna get it all in - just flat - 3. don't overplay JJ on a Q1010 flop - what's going to call you - 99 ? 4. you don't seem to understand the concept that your hand may be beaten and struggle to fold big hands or what you beleive to be big hands - sometimes we have to fold or bet fold You need to lay down a fundamental strategy (tight) to beat this level - certain range from certain postions opening and raising accordingly You doing some off the cuff stuff - "o ok I'll call - you never know" A couple of tweaks and you will start beating the level 1. tighten up whole range early position 2. play big hands aggressivly pre and flop - do not trap unless you have quads ) 3. play marginals and mid prs with caution - open raise but don't 3 bet them 4. if you think your beat then fold (no shame in folding) get the basic tight aggro game going and then you can open up some of your range etc.. TAG beats nl10 - simples Posted by rancid
thanks again rancid, tbh i thought i was playing 'quite' tight but maybe not tight enough i guess.(i guess there must be tight and real tight. lol) 1 i've been calling with a lot less hands in early position 2 yes i've got to be raising bigger p/f and on flop with big hands 3 yep more caution needed with pairs & marginals
a number of those hands posted probably came after 1am last night and i know i played some of them quite badly,so i'll use that as a slight excuse for 1 or 2. i'll try and do better next time.
All looks abit tentative Dev. Play tighter and more aggressive, more conviction with your 3bet and cbet sizing. No limping when first in to the pot, and certainly no limping with big pre flop hands! Good News = The problems you seem to be having are quite easy to fix! Posted by DOHHHHHHH
thanks DOHHHH glad there's some 'good news' lol
yes, it's all true what you say mate, i think i need a new bigger white board to write all these notes on. lol
Everything they said above, and like Doh said, they really are easy leaks to fix. All the fundamentals you learn for 4NL are still there in 10NL too. 1) Stop slowplaying 2) Keep bluffing to a minimum. 3) When you get raised by a passive player, re-assess how good your hand really is. 4) When you've got a big hand pre or post, just bet bet bet! You're standard sizing postflop in most spots is gonna be around the 65-75% of the pot. Don't be betting like 30% pot cos you're scared they'll fold. If they got something to call with, then they'll call, if they got complete junk they'll probably fold to any bet anyway. Forget worrying about losing your customer, your job is to make big hands and get maximum value when you do. One thing I've noticed is you like clicking back bets, just don't do this apart from in exceptional circumstances. For one, they look SO strong and while most won't notice this, more importantly it's just losing tons of value. If you're raising with say a FD then you want FE with it otherwise it's probably a losing play and if you're raising for value then you don't want them to put in an extra £1 you want them to put in an extra £2.50 or whatever. It comes back to worrying about losing your customer, if people will call a raise, they'll call more than a clickback. Posted by Lambert180
thanks again Paul.
yes all true again mate. it all stems from playing so many dym games last year,where just getting a few chips here and there can make such a difference,rather than betting big or going all-in and risking your chances of cashing. old habits are hard to break and i know i've got to do it,or i'll soon be back playing those dym's again. lol
1 fold pre 2 fold pre 3 flat pre, if you 3bet make it bigger, check back river 4 3bet pre, as played c/r flop 5 fine 6 raise pre 7 4b/c pre Posted by grantorino
abc tight aggro on the lower stakes its harder to bluff so dont bluff go for max value with ya premium hands meaning bet bet bet 3 x preflop for instance with jj above and on the flop if low cards bet each street 3/4 pot bet is a good bet size imo dnt everrrrrrrrrrr check trap on the lower cash games bettttttttt Posted by IDONKCALLU
Im not a 10nl player, but even I can see some pretty big mistakes. AA. raise pre ffs TT always bet that flop and fold to the raise on the river KK dont double barrel so big, you pot commit yourself and are almost never ahead by the river Posted by calcalfold
thanks calcalfold
i know there are some pretty big mistakes,that's why i've posted up hands for feed back. i'm sure there will be plenty more to come. lol
i think its great that ya adjusting ya game imo a dym player will never improve as a player as its fold 99 per cent of hand n gets to the shove of fold point when u get 10 bigs so credit to ya devon fish u need a dif mind set in cash its a harder game good luck to ya m8 Posted by IDONKCALLU
No worries. I can see you beating 10nl within a short time frame, due to your qdetermination to learn. Hope to see you there soon. Posted by calcalfold
hi again calcalfold, cheers mate, yeah,i'm sure it won't be very long before you move up. best wishes (* *) ^ dev
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Unlucky with the losses it will soon turn around.
I've nominated you for the forum game *at the top of the page*
There would not be a more deserving person than you.
I just had a brutal session 2, bit of playing bad and my last hand i ran a set of 6s, into a turned set of 7s.
Good luck mate
yeah,no worries.
thanks for the nomination buddy.
not much you can do when you lose set v set is there. ul
it's all there to test us. lol
best wishes
dev
few pointers
1. fold some of them J9 like hands, useless no need to play them
2. don't 3 bet 10's etc.. if you don't wanna get it all in - just flat -
3. don't overplay JJ on a Q1010 flop - what's going to call you - 99 ?
4. you don't seem to understand the concept that your hand may be beaten and struggle to fold big hands or what you beleive to be big hands - sometimes we have to fold or bet fold
You need to lay down a fundamental strategy (tight) to beat this level - certain range from certain postions opening and raising accordingly
You doing some off the cuff stuff - "o ok I'll call - you never know"
A couple of tweaks and you will start beating the level
1. tighten up whole range early position
2. play big hands aggressivly pre and flop - do not trap unless you have quads )
3. play marginals and mid prs with caution - open raise but don't 3 bet them
4. if you think your beat then fold (no shame in folding)
get the basic tight aggro game going and then you can open up some of your range etc..
TAG beats nl10 - simples
All looks abit tentative Dev.
Play tighter and more aggressive, more conviction with your 3bet and cbet sizing.
No limping when first in to the pot, and certainly no limping with big pre flop hands!
Good News = The problems you seem to be having are quite easy to fix!
1) Stop slowplaying
2) Keep bluffing to a minimum.
3) When you get raised by a passive player, re-assess how good your hand really is.
4) When you've got a big hand pre or post, just bet bet bet!
You're standard sizing postflop in most spots is gonna be around the 65-75% of the pot. Don't be betting like 30% pot cos you're scared they'll fold. If they got something to call with, then they'll call, if they got complete junk they'll probably fold to any bet anyway.
Forget worrying about losing your customer, your job is to make big hands and get maximum value when you do. One thing I've noticed is you like clicking back bets, just don't do this apart from in exceptional circumstances. For one, they look SO strong and while most won't notice this, more importantly it's just losing tons of value. If you're raising with say a FD then you want FE with it otherwise it's probably a losing play and if you're raising for value then you don't want them to put in an extra £1 you want them to put in an extra £2.50 or whatever. It comes back to worrying about losing your customer, if people will call a raise, they'll call more than a clickback.
tbh i thought i was playing 'quite' tight but maybe not tight enough i guess.(i guess there must be tight and real tight. lol)
1 i've been calling with a lot less hands in early position
2 yes i've got to be raising bigger p/f and on flop with big hands
3 yep more caution needed with pairs & marginals
a number of those hands posted probably came after 1am last night and i know i played some of them quite badly,so i'll use that as a slight excuse for 1 or 2.
i'll try and do better next time.
dev
glad there's some 'good news' lol
yes, it's all true what you say mate,
i think i need a new bigger white board to write all these notes on. lol
cheers
dev
yes all true again mate.
it all stems from playing so many dym games last year,where just getting a few chips here and there can make such a difference,rather than betting big or going all-in and risking your chances of cashing.
old habits are hard to break and i know i've got to do it,or i'll soon be back playing those dym's again. lol
cheers Paul,
run good
dev
AA. raise pre ffs
TT always bet that flop and fold to the raise on the river
KK dont double barrel so big, you pot commit yourself and are almost never ahead by the river
dev
dev
i know there are some pretty big mistakes,that's why i've posted up hands for feed back.
i'm sure there will be plenty more to come. lol
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quick THANK YOU to GaryQQQ
for lending me 'the mental game of poker' book to read.
night off tonight (need it after y'day) and i'll get cracking on it tomorrow.
cheers Gary
dev
I can see you beating 10nl within a short time frame, due to your qdetermination to learn.
Hope to see you there soon.
cheers mate,
yeah,i'm sure it won't be very long before you move up.
best wishes
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