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    dobiesdrawdobiesdraw Member Posts: 2,793

    ;) Here's a good question for the self proclaimed expert . If you are so passionate about Brexit and in particular remain , why did you wait until after the referendum to state your case ..why weren't you in here pitching your arguments before ?

    Perhaps you'd like to answer this .
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,547
    edited December 2018

    ;) Here's a good question for the self proclaimed expert . If you are so passionate about Brexit and in particular remain , why did you wait until after the referendum to state your case ..why weren't you in here pitching your arguments before ?

    Perhaps you'd like to answer this .
    I could but I am not. I intend to adopt the same attitude towards questions as you and your gang do.
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    rainman215rainman215 Member Posts: 1,186
    edited December 2018
    As Mohammed Akunjee, he claimed in an article carried on the Cage website that the security services “created” Michael Adebolajo, the killer of Lee Rigby, as a terrorist “by making his life so difficult”.

    The argument closely echoes that made by Cage in the case of Mohammed Emwazi, the Isil murderer known as “Jihadi John”.
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    dobiesdrawdobiesdraw Member Posts: 2,793
    HAYSIE said:

    ;) Here's a good question for the self proclaimed expert . If you are so passionate about Brexit and in particular remain , why did you wait until after the referendum to state your case ..why weren't you in here pitching your arguments before ?

    Perhaps you'd like to answer this .
    I could but I am not. I intend to adopt the same attitude towards questions as you and your gang do.
    Very wise .
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,547
    UK immigration: These shocking stats show the disconnect between rules and reality


    The UK government is promising to clamp down on immigration flows after Brexit to prioritise the best and brightest minds. But it’s fighting a battle against businesses, which are warning that the current system isn’t fit for purpose in the post-Brexit world and could lead to worker shortages in crucial sectors.
    A whopping 64% of all workers in the UK wouldn’t qualify to stay in the country based on current immigration rules for foreign workers, according to new research from PwC and the business lobby group London First. The government requires that immigrant workers on the so-called Tier 2 visa must have a salary of at least £30,000; a threshold that the majority of UK workers simply couldn’t meet.

    https://uk.yahoo.com/finance/news/uk-immigration-shocking-stats-show-disconnect-rules-reality-112803325.html
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,547
    Brexit legal advice warns of UK being trapped by Irish backstop

    Legal advice on the Brexit deal, published reluctantly after MPs found the government in contempt of parliament, warns the terms of the Irish backstop could trap the UK in “protracted and repeated rounds of negotiations” in the years ahead.
    The legal status of the arrangements for preventing a hard border between Northern Ireland and Ireland – and in particular, the UK’s ability to extricate itself – are at the heart of the political row about whether MPs should accept the prime minister’s deal.
    In a six-page document finally released on Wednesday, the attorney general, Geoffrey Cox, concedes, as he did in parliament on Monday, that the UK could be trapped indefinitely in the backstop

    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/brexit-legal-advice-warns-uk-120215160.html
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,547
    EU leaders to hold crisis talks within 48 hours if Brexit deal is rejected



    EU leaders will hold crisis talks within 48 hours if the Brexit deal is rejected by British MPs, Yahoo Finance UK has learned.
    The leaders of all 28 EU member states are due in Brussels for a summit on 13 December – just two days after the ‘meaningful vote’ on the deal takes place in the House of Commons.

    https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/eu-leaders-hold-crisis-talks-within-48-hours-brexit-deal-rejected-141813551.html
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,547
    Brexit fears raise recession threat as service sector growth flatlines

    The economy is in danger of crunching into reverse for the first time in six years as Brexit fears undermine the UK’s dominant services sector, experts warned on Wednesday.
    The gloomy warning came after the Chartered Institute of Procurement & Supply’s latest snapshot showed firms accounting for the lion’s share of output barely managed any growth at all during a bleak November.

    https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/brexit-fears-raise-recession-threat-111000137.html
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,547
    MPs may try to steal Brexit from British people - Liam Fox

    There is a risk MPs could "steal Brexit from the British people" if Theresa May's proposed deal is rejected, a senior cabinet minister has warned

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46450227
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,547
    Hoarding for Brexit sparks race for warehouse space in Britain

    LEIGHTON BUZZARD, England (Reuters) - In a vast warehouse complex 40 miles north of London, staff are wrestling with ways to cram in more goods after a surge in demand from companies building stockpiles ahead of Brexit.

    https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/hoarding-brexit-sparks-race-warehouse-space-britain-151151815--finance.html
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    goldongoldon Member Posts: 8,550
    Who's on the Show tonight ........ WoW! it's "Theresa May" ........ what record she broke.


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    dobiesdrawdobiesdraw Member Posts: 2,793
    HAYSIE said:

    UK immigration: These shocking stats show the disconnect between rules and reality


    The UK government is promising to clamp down on immigration flows after Brexit to prioritise the best and brightest minds. But it’s fighting a battle against businesses, which are warning that the current system isn’t fit for purpose in the post-Brexit world and could lead to worker shortages in crucial sectors.
    A whopping 64% of all workers in the UK wouldn’t qualify to stay in the country based on current immigration rules for foreign workers, according to new research from PwC and the business lobby group London First. The government requires that immigrant workers on the so-called Tier 2 visa must have a salary of at least £30,000; a threshold that the majority of UK workers simply couldn’t meet.

    https://uk.yahoo.com/finance/news/uk-immigration-shocking-stats-show-disconnect-rules-reality-112803325.html

    According to new research from PwC and the business lobby group London First.
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    dobiesdrawdobiesdraw Member Posts: 2,793
    HAYSIE said:

    Hoarding for Brexit sparks race for warehouse space in Britain

    LEIGHTON BUZZARD, England (Reuters) - In a vast warehouse complex 40 miles north of London, staff are wrestling with ways to cram in more goods after a surge in demand from companies building stockpiles ahead of Brexit.

    https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/hoarding-brexit-sparks-race-warehouse-space-britain-151151815--finance.html

    People stockpile when theres an extended holiday as well
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    dobiesdrawdobiesdraw Member Posts: 2,793
    HAYSIE said:

    MPs may try to steal Brexit from British people - Liam Fox

    There is a risk MPs could "steal Brexit from the British people" if Theresa May's proposed deal is rejected, a senior cabinet minister has warned

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46450227

    Liam Fox said there was "natural Remain majority" in Parliament and any attempt to overturn the 2016 referendum vote would be a "democratic affront"
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    dobiesdrawdobiesdraw Member Posts: 2,793
    More cherry picked articles and headlines by Haysie , just to portray doom and gloom scenarios . If anyone is reading his posts and not commenting , please make sure you read the whole of the article to get the full story .
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    rainman215rainman215 Member Posts: 1,186
    haysie i know you want to stay in the eu, here is an idea, jump on a ferry to France.
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    dobiesdrawdobiesdraw Member Posts: 2,793

    haysie i know you want to stay in the eu, here is an idea, jump on a ferry to France.

    I'll even pay the fare , if you promise never to come back !
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    goldongoldon Member Posts: 8,550
    He can drive now they put the petrol tax down........ power to the people.
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,547
    edited December 2018
    Treasury would need to act to shore up economy after no-deal Brexit – Hammond

    The Treasury would be forced to open the spending taps to shore up the economy in the case of a no-deal Brexit which causes sharply rising inflation, a collapse in the pound and higher interest rates, Chancellor Philip Hammond has suggested.
    Mr Hammond told MPs that the expected spike in inflation would make it “very difficult” for the Bank of England to reduce interest rates as it did following the 2016 referendum, leaving it to fiscal policy – taxation and spending – to “carry much of the short-term burden”.
    And he said that in the medium term, the UK would need a restructuring of its industry on a scale last seen in the 1980s.
    Giving evidence to the Commons Treasury Committee, the Chancellor described no-deal as a “terrible” outcome, and said that MPs contemplating voting down Theresa May’s deal on December 11 should understand the full implications of what might happen.
    He pointed to Whitehall analysis suggesting UK GDP could take a 9.3% hit over 15 years in “a needless loss of consumption in the economy”


    https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/treasury-act-shore-economy-no-162742025.html
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    dobiesdrawdobiesdraw Member Posts: 2,793
    HAYSIE said:

    Treasury would need to act to shore up economy after no-deal Brexit – Hammond

    The Treasury would be forced to open the spending taps to shore up the economy in the case of a no-deal Brexit which causes sharply rising inflation, a collapse in the pound and higher interest rates, Chancellor Philip Hammond has suggested.

    https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/treasury-act-shore-economy-no-162742025.html

    Mr Hammond said the UK’s future success “depends on us executing the instructions of the British people in the referendum, leaving the EU, but doing so in a way that minimises the impact on our economy and maximises the opportunity that we have in the future”. and also : the likely economic hit was outweighed by the need to avoid the damage to society from ignoring the referendum result.
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