If Pfizer knew from the start that it didn't stop transmission why were our experts (see Whitty's tweet above) and the complicit media pushing the story that it did?
Also what was the point of the "passports"?
The covid passport for busy venues/travel was as short term proposition to protect those in society that had wanted to help get things back to normal by being vaccinated. Being unvaccinated in a crowded environment, was a risk to hospitals, therefore a risk to lockdowns... when there was a solution and people didnt want to take it, clearly those who have contributed should be the first to benefit and also not suffer further lockdowns for the none action of others.... there was also an uncertainty of transmission, which was only ever said was reduced, but a grey area.
At the end of the day, they were confident the vaccine was preventing serious illness, but it was always a grey area to how efficient against transmission.... it was the anti vaxxers biggest argument, 'i can still get it, so whats the point' all over social media.
The anti vaxxer did not understand the fact that 'we dont really know, its killing people, we need to err on the side of caution, we need to put things in place to try and stop it'.... they had no time for this, if it did not benefit them. Its widely people whos initial thought generally in life is 'no-ones telling me what to do' and are stubborn.
As for the Dutch guy defending these people for not being selfish... at the time, they did not want to contribute to society, they thought about their own welfare, they didnt care about anyone else, they wanted to carry on with their own life despite knowing people were dying, they didnt want to help the NHS employees, they didnt want to wear masks (despite it being a really small ask), ... etc etc etc..... In a world that no one knew definatively what was the best course, but if we all pushed in the same way, the quicker we would get out of it.
What part of that is not looking after number 1? I often think people dont really get what selfish actually means and just take it that its a negative slur.... It just means you do things purely for yourself and dont consider anyone else...
Read that. Calm science, and some weird shouty people. Who continue to rant without any concrete evidence, other than showing politicians are not Scientists (just like anti-vaxxers).
Instead of trying to rubbish the, frankly, brilliant work of mid-late 2020 after the initial panic, here is my take on some genuine questions in relation to this.
1. History tells us that viruses tend to weaken over time. To continue to be relevant, a virus needs to do 2 things-firstly, not kill its host, and secondly to become more transmissible before symptoms appear, while changing various components to sidestep natural immunity. You can see the equivalent of the journey between alpha/delta to omicron in various other communicable diseases. Wasn't inevitable that this would happen in this way, but always likely. Did we keep restrictions for too long?
2. The early panic in 2020 was pretty much inevitable. The vaccines were produced at brilliant speed-but (much like a flu jab) were always likely to provide a great short-term solution but a limited medium-term one
3. At what stage was it clear that the risk had drastically reduced? We may have been slow to adapt
4. There are questions about some decision-making. Which falls into 2 groups:-
(a) Some dim decisions. The Nightingale Hospitals cost a fortune, but there was never the medical resources to make them effective. Massive waste of money. Much cheaper, and much more realistic, was to use some of the smaller Hospitals for this purpose. As an example, in my area the major Hospitals are Colchester/Ipswich. But Clacton or Harwich hospitals could have been used purely for Covid patients. Another was the shameful release of Covid patients into Care Homes
(b) some shameless profiteering by some politicians. How can it be acceptable to (for example) award a contract worth £millions to your mate who runs the village pub, has zero experience, and there is no Competitive Tendering? PPE in particular was not handled well
Read that. Calm science, and some weird shouty people. Who continue to rant without any concrete evidence, other than showing politicians are not Scientists (just like anti-vaxxers).
Instead of trying to rubbish the, frankly, brilliant work of mid-late 2020 after the initial panic, here is my take on some genuine questions in relation to this.
1. History tells us that viruses tend to weaken over time. To continue to be relevant, a virus needs to do 2 things-firstly, not kill its host, and secondly to become more transmissible before symptoms appear, while changing various components to sidestep natural immunity. You can see the equivalent of the journey between alpha/delta to omicron in various other communicable diseases. Wasn't inevitable that this would happen in this way, but always likely. Did we keep restrictions for too long?
2. The early panic in 2020 was pretty much inevitable. The vaccines were produced at brilliant speed-but (much like a flu jab) were always likely to provide a great short-term solution but a limited medium-term one
3. At what stage was it clear that the risk had drastically reduced? We may have been slow to adapt
4. There are questions about some decision-making. Which falls into 2 groups:-
(a) Some dim decisions. The Nightingale Hospitals cost a fortune, but there was never the medical resources to make them effective. Massive waste of money. Much cheaper, and much more realistic, was to use some of the smaller Hospitals for this purpose. As an example, in my area the major Hospitals are Colchester/Ipswich. But Clacton or Harwich hospitals could have been used purely for Covid patients. Another was the shameful release of Covid patients into Care Homes
(b) some shameless profiteering by some politicians. How can it be acceptable to (for example) award a contract worth £millions to your mate who runs the village pub, has zero experience, and there is no Competitive Tendering? PPE in particular was not handled well
the whole thing was by design , just stop making excuses for them , they are child trafficking pedophiles who are trying to **** your life up in whatever way possible, its a multi faceted attack and is still going on with all the bs war and what is being pushed because of it , gas , fuel , e.t.c
next you're going to tell me carbon is not the fuel of life and extinction rebellion are not a paid organization
his-story , who's story ?
this event was planned , they even done a documentary on it and it started in the exact same place in uk lmao
enjoy your climate lockdown or your pwer cuts because of russia lmao
Read that. Calm science, and some weird shouty people. Who continue to rant without any concrete evidence, other than showing politicians are not Scientists (just like anti-vaxxers).
Instead of trying to rubbish the, frankly, brilliant work of mid-late 2020 after the initial panic, here is my take on some genuine questions in relation to this.
1. History tells us that viruses tend to weaken over time. To continue to be relevant, a virus needs to do 2 things-firstly, not kill its host, and secondly to become more transmissible before symptoms appear, while changing various components to sidestep natural immunity. You can see the equivalent of the journey between alpha/delta to omicron in various other communicable diseases. Wasn't inevitable that this would happen in this way, but always likely. Did we keep restrictions for too long?
2. The early panic in 2020 was pretty much inevitable. The vaccines were produced at brilliant speed-but (much like a flu jab) were always likely to provide a great short-term solution but a limited medium-term one
3. At what stage was it clear that the risk had drastically reduced? We may have been slow to adapt
4. There are questions about some decision-making. Which falls into 2 groups:-
(a) Some dim decisions. The Nightingale Hospitals cost a fortune, but there was never the medical resources to make them effective. Massive waste of money. Much cheaper, and much more realistic, was to use some of the smaller Hospitals for this purpose. As an example, in my area the major Hospitals are Colchester/Ipswich. But Clacton or Harwich hospitals could have been used purely for Covid patients. Another was the shameful release of Covid patients into Care Homes
(b) some shameless profiteering by some politicians. How can it be acceptable to (for example) award a contract worth £millions to your mate who runs the village pub, has zero experience, and there is no Competitive Tendering? PPE in particular was not handled well
the whole thing was by design , just stop making excuses for them , they are child trafficking pedophiles who are trying to **** your life up in whatever way possible, its a multi faceted attack and is still going on with all the bs war and what is being pushed because of it , gas , fuel , e.t.c
next you're going to tell me carbon is not the fuel of life and extinction rebellion are not a paid organization
his-story , who's story ?
this event was planned , they even done a documentary on it and it started in the exact same place in uk lmao
enjoy your climate lockdown or your pwer cuts because of russia lmao
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sssshhhhhhh don't speak to your Neighbours you could get sick, they are your enemy , stay home save lives lmao divide and conquer
Nuremberg 2 please hurry up so the walking dead can see the truth before they leave us
At the end of the day, they were confident the vaccine was preventing serious illness, but it was always a grey area to how efficient against transmission.... it was the anti vaxxers biggest argument, 'i can still get it, so whats the point' all over social media.
The anti vaxxer did not understand the fact that 'we dont really know, its killing people, we need to err on the side of caution, we need to put things in place to try and stop it'.... they had no time for this, if it did not benefit them. Its widely people whos initial thought generally in life is 'no-ones telling me what to do' and are stubborn.
As for the Dutch guy defending these people for not being selfish... at the time, they did not want to contribute to society, they thought about their own welfare, they didnt care about anyone else, they wanted to carry on with their own life despite knowing people were dying, they didnt want to help the NHS employees, they didnt want to wear masks (despite it being a really small ask), ... etc etc etc..... In a world that no one knew definatively what was the best course, but if we all pushed in the same way, the quicker we would get out of it.
What part of that is not looking after number 1? I often think people dont really get what selfish actually means and just take it that its a negative slur.... It just means you do things purely for yourself and dont consider anyone else...
Time for some balance, common-sense & truth.
Instead of trying to rubbish the, frankly, brilliant work of mid-late 2020 after the initial panic, here is my take on some genuine questions in relation to this.
1. History tells us that viruses tend to weaken over time. To continue to be relevant, a virus needs to do 2 things-firstly, not kill its host, and secondly to become more transmissible before symptoms appear, while changing various components to sidestep natural immunity. You can see the equivalent of the journey between alpha/delta to omicron in various other communicable diseases. Wasn't inevitable that this would happen in this way, but always likely. Did we keep restrictions for too long?
2. The early panic in 2020 was pretty much inevitable. The vaccines were produced at brilliant speed-but (much like a flu jab) were always likely to provide a great short-term solution but a limited medium-term one
3. At what stage was it clear that the risk had drastically reduced? We may have been slow to adapt
4. There are questions about some decision-making. Which falls into 2 groups:-
(a) Some dim decisions. The Nightingale Hospitals cost a fortune, but there was never the medical resources to make them effective. Massive waste of money. Much cheaper, and much more realistic, was to use some of the smaller Hospitals for this purpose. As an example, in my area the major Hospitals are Colchester/Ipswich. But Clacton or Harwich hospitals could have been used purely for Covid patients. Another was the shameful release of Covid patients into Care Homes
(b) some shameless profiteering by some politicians. How can it be acceptable to (for example) award a contract worth £millions to your mate who runs the village pub, has zero experience, and there is no Competitive Tendering? PPE in particular was not handled well
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/other/pfizer-s-covid-drug-paxlovid-may-cause-deadly-blood-clots/ar-AA12SQaG?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=6ad06f92ec024293e1203537b68afac1
Happy to take the Governments propaganda money.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/oct/13/boris-johnson-covid-laws-rights-decree-two-years-democracy
next you're going to tell me carbon is not the fuel of life and extinction rebellion are not a paid organization
his-story , who's story ?
this event was planned , they even done a documentary on it and it started in the exact same place in uk lmao
enjoy your climate lockdown or your pwer cuts because of russia lmao
oh dear
bbc would be proud
"By design?" Whose design?
"Child trafficking pedophiles"? Really?
"Multi faceted attack? Really?
"bs war"? Really?
"extinction rebellion...a paid organisation"? Really?
Governments get away with stuff precisely because of people like you. Full of generalities. With fantasies of some secret new world order.
Ignoring the tens of thousands of real deaths. The massive debts caused by all of this-owed by the very Governments you believe have "planned" it.
And allowing the individual, opportunist wrongdoers to get off scot-free. While you prattle on about the "big picture".
https://www.climatedepot.com/2021/12/02/who-funds-extinction-rebellion-american-uk-millionaires-some-of-americas-most-famous-families-including-the-kennedys-the-gettys/
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/mar/05/the-very-private-life-of-the-man-on-britains-biggest-salary
""Child trafficking pedophiles"?"
Oh deary me.