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Can an old dog learn new tricks?

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  • bbMikebbMike Member Posts: 3,720
    edited September 2016
    Interesting, some food for thought there thanks for taking the time on your posts.
  • Mayhem357Mayhem357 Member Posts: 92
    edited September 2016
    As a fellow DYM reg I agree with Jac35, although I've seen some super soft tables above £11s and it's not always the same regs.  I tend to mostly play £5s and £11s because that's where the traffic is  and I regularly withdraw from my bankroll but if you can play in the evenings the higher stakes do become more active.

    Also as Jac mentions I don't table select unless it's £22s and above, no point sitting with five other good regs is my general motto although on £5s it's rare to get more than two decent regs on a table as it's full of recreational players.

  • nickkaynickkay Member Posts: 171
    edited September 2016
    Poor night for me on PLO8 DYM's losing a spectacular 7/8 in a row. Cut my losses and played a PLO8 MTT which I managed to win. What I'm posting about is player notes. It's something I'm not really familiar with but last night tagged a player as a very loose calling station. Ultimately, it helped me later on when hitting a few hands that I knew he would pay me off if he had any part of the hand as he seemed unable to find the fold button, ever.

    Just wondered if any of the other ploppers use notes, especially for MTT's. I don't think it's really necessary for DYM's as you face the same regs most of the time.
  • Jac35Jac35 Member Posts: 6,492
    edited September 2016
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:
    Poor night for me on PLO8 DYM's losing a spectacular 7/8 in a row. Cut my losses and played a PLO8 MTT which I managed to win. What I'm posting about is player notes. It's something I'm not really familiar with but last night tagged a player as a very loose calling station. Ultimately, it helped me later on when hitting a few hands that I knew he would pay me off if he had any part of the hand as he seemed unable to find the fold button, ever. Just wondered if any of the other ploppers use notes, especially for MTT's. I don't think it's really necessary for DYM's as you face the same regs most of the time.
    Posted by nickkay
    Whenever I make notes I also put down whether it's a dym note or an mtt one.
    Can make a big difference if it's not a regular opponent.
    I also date my note. A note from 3 years ago may not be particularly useful now for example 

    Also take emotion out of notes
    "Fxxxing fish"
    Won't be that helpful 6 months later
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,465
    edited September 2016
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:
    Poor night for me on PLO8 DYM's losing a spectacular 7/8 in a row. Cut my losses and played a PLO8 MTT which I managed to win. What I'm posting about is player notes. It's something I'm not really familiar with but last night tagged a player as a very loose calling station. Ultimately, it helped me later on when hitting a few hands that I knew he would pay me off if he had any part of the hand as he seemed unable to find the fold button, ever. Just wondered if any of the other ploppers use notes, especially for MTT's. I don't think it's really necessary for DYM's as you face the same regs most of the time.
    Posted by nickkay
    I take notes and colour code players.

    Notes usually consist of what type of hands they limp with, e.g hi only, lo only, etc.
    Do they fold their limp to a raise.
    Do they flat a raise or 3 bet, with a view to getting it all in.

    Colour code:
    Red - tight player, raises with premiums only - danger.
    Amber - Mixes it up a bit - proceed with caution.
    Green - Any 4 limper - doesn't have a fold button.
    Tikay has a golden halo :-)


  • nickkaynickkay Member Posts: 171
    edited September 2016
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:
    Do players always play in a certain way then? My play is dependant on what im watching on tv,skysports often getting in the way of a good bluff. Note to myself.Turn the tele off.
    Posted by chilling
    I tend to try and mix it up, player dependant of course. There are players though that just play one way, in all forms of poker I guess.
  • MattBatesMattBates Member Posts: 4,118
    edited September 2016
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:
    Poor night for me on PLO8 DYM's losing a spectacular 7/8 in a row. Cut my losses and played a PLO8 MTT which I managed to win. What I'm posting about is player notes. It's something I'm not really familiar with but last night tagged a player as a very loose calling station. Ultimately, it helped me later on when hitting a few hands that I knew he would pay me off if he had any part of the hand as he seemed unable to find the fold button, ever. Just wondered if any of the other ploppers use notes, especially for MTT's. I don't think it's really necessary for DYM's as you face the same regs most of the time.
    Posted by nickkay
    My note taking is fairly poor. I tend to know most of the regs so dont really need notes on those players and tend to remember playing styles quite well. The ones who play infrequently but play very strangely (min flop bets/pot bets etc) are the ones that are good to have notes on. Some players will blast in 100bb pre flop so knowing if they do it with any ace or only do it with qq+ is fairly important. The best thing you can do is pick up on out of the ordinary plays but you need to take all notes with a pinch of salt and know they wont always be 100% right. 
  • nickkaynickkay Member Posts: 171
    edited September 2016
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks? : My note taking is fairly poor. I tend to know most of the regs so dont really need notes on those players and tend to remember playing styles quite well. The ones who play infrequently but play very strangely (min flop bets/pot bets etc) are the ones that are good to have notes on. Some players will blast in 100bb pre flop so knowing if they do it with any ace or only do it with qq+ is fairly important. The best thing you can do is pick up on out of the ordinary plays but you need to take all notes with a pinch of salt and know they wont always be 100% right. 
    Posted by MattBates

    Cheers Matt, good to have insight from an established winning player.

    P.S please don't ever come and play PLO8 :P
  • Jac35Jac35 Member Posts: 6,492
    edited September 2016
    I'm not in the slightest bit hurt by a recent post.
    As you're aware, I'm very thick skinned
    Marv 
    :)
  • HENDRIK62HENDRIK62 Member Posts: 3,232
    edited September 2016
    ^^Too much fun, lolled quite a lot...
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,173
    edited September 2016

    Quick update, heading into Sunday, the day I draw the line each week.

    On Monday, I made a healthy £30.50, but things got a bit choppy as the week wore on.....
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,173
    edited September 2016

    Tuesday was one of those all too predictable bad nights, when I knocked it in a treat. The result was a nasty £47.20 loss. When you lose all 3 @ £11 & the only one at £!6.50, as well as 6 from 10 @ £5.50, a sub £50 loss is almost a good result.

    £2.25, P2 W2, L0

    £3.30, P14, W10, L4

    £5.50, P10, W4, L6

    £11, P3, W0, L3

    £16.50, P1, W0, L1
  • Jac35Jac35 Member Posts: 6,492
    edited September 2016
    As it's a decent sample, I suggest you just play £2.25s and £3.30s
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,173
    edited September 2016

    Wednesday I got home late from Leeds, & then my PC decided to do an Update.

    Thought it would take 5 minutes, but as succession of messages follows.....

    This may take a while

    Soon be done

    Nearly done

    Almost complete

    Now complete - installation will follow

    Just checking a few things, then you'll be good to go

    Almost ready now.....


    And so it continued. For an hour.

    It was the last night of the Premiership week, too, & I was hanging on grimly to the £25 spot, so it was a tad frustrating. 

    With the very late start, I only managed 17 games (& lost £18.75 getting there) so that did not bode well for the Premiership leaderboard. So, I decided to play a bit of cash, & fired up 3 x £0.10 - £0.20 PLO cash tables. That worked out well, as I made £19.26, covering my DYM losses for the session, & also I managed to hold onto the £25 spot in the Premiership, so that was quite a result really.

    The cash was weird, I did not know any of the players & so had no notes, so I sat quietly for 20 mins or so & watched tricks. With just 3 tables, I could focus well, too. Once I found my feet, & worked out ranges, I felt quite comfy. One guy was sat at all 3 tables & had the lot, they were 10-20p tables, so max pull up £20, & he had £259 on one table,. & over £100 on the other two. His name was the rather puntastic MrBlewPie, might have been Jeff Lynne. Had a Dublin field address iirc. Seemed a nice chap, too, we chatted a bit & he seemed gracious to everyone. I would happily have played PLO Spin Up Tables, but there was no traffic. The cash session deffo helped me hold onto the Prem £25. Might try it again when they have Rewards Accelerator going & I'm short of points.  
     
    Eventually, the tables broke, leaving me heads up v him on all 3 tables. I don't table select as a rule, but I just felt he might be a bit too hot for me HU, so I wished him goodnight, & he said thanks for the game. Lovely chap.

    £2.25 P1, W0, L1

    £3.30, P10, W6, L4

    £5.50, P4, W1, L3

    £11, P1, W1, L0

    £16.50, P1, W0, L1    
      

    So the DYM's cost me £18.85, but I won £19.26 @ cash, & then, the next morning, I found I had hung on to the £25 spot on the Prem Leaderboard.

    Not so bad then.
     
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,173
    edited September 2016
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:
    As it's a decent sample, I suggest you just play £2.25s and £3.30s
    Posted by Jac35
    Shush. When I want advice, I'll ask a good player, such as Matt Bates.
  • Jac35Jac35 Member Posts: 6,492
    edited September 2016
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks? : Shush. When I want advice, I'll ask a good player, such as Matt Bates.
    Posted by Tikay10
    Sigh
    I'd just about recovered from this. Matt very kindly send me a virtual hug and I was ok.
    You've opened the wound again
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,173
    edited September 2016
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks? : Sigh I'd just about recovered from this. Matt very kindly send me a virtual hug and I was ok. You've opened the wound again
    Posted by Jac35
    Last time Matt hugged me he wrapped himself round my knee, it was a bit like being seen to by a fruity dog.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,173
    edited September 2016


    Clawed back £20.35 on Thursday.
     
    £2.25, P3, W0, L3

    £3.30, P18, W13, L5

    £5.50, P8, W5, L3


    £11, P1, W0, L1

    £16.50, P1, W1, L0
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,875
    edited September 2016
    Just a thought-could it be that your success at the £3.30s might be due to 3 people going out before you've played a hand?
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,173
    edited September 2016

    Just a short session on Friday, as I needed to quit by 8pm, as Gill was coming down for the weekend.

    Had a great session & won £31.30 from just 14 games, which is a great win-rate. The profit came from winning both £16.50 games.

    £2.25, P2, W1, L1

    £3.30, P4, W2, L2


    £5.50, P4, W3, L1

    £11, P2, W1, L1

    £16.50, P2, W2, L0
     
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