just looked at the hand again u shuda shoved pre. i can understand the call. i cant understand the 42 shove with the stacks so small so cant understand why villain is crying
im no expert but everything seems wrong in this hand,the min raise with the plan to call if the BB shoves,if that was the plan why not just shove yourself,theres a hole lot of difference between calling and shoving,what i mean by that is u can shove any 2 cards , but u shouldent be calling with any 2..personally i dont think u had a plan,i think you just min raised expecting the fold from a player you say had only played one hand......now the shove with 2,4.by the BB.. thats not as bad as might look , lol.after all its against someone whos min raised numerous times and theres a good chance the raiser might fold,if not he probably has live cards with 2,4....now the call ,i carnt explane that one, maybe he just fancied a gamble...my advice for wat its worth ,get them in before they do lol..it would have saved all this,the BB would have just decked his 2,4.......gl all
just looked at the hand again u shuda shoved pre. i can understand the call. i cant understand the 42 shove with the stacks so small so cant understand why villain is crying Posted by reeler
Yes I should of shoved pre instead of min-raising. At least you understand why I called and questioned the 42 shove.
In Response to Re: Villian asked me to post this hand as said Im a donkey : I think you need to look into ICM to really guage how this call was bad. Even on the face of it, saying I need this % of equity to call may seem fine - ICM would make it a losing money call. Anyway if you feel confident enough in your play you wouldn't find the term Donkey such an insult. Wasn't actually meant as an insult, but hey ho.....poker players do get offended very easily Posted by rancid
There were still 16 players left and only the top 6 got paid. ICM is not really a factor when I am way behind on chips and so far from the bubble and the blinds are about to go up which would leave me with 7.5bbs if I fold.
In Response to Re: Villian asked me to post this hand as said Im a donkey : There were still 16 players left and only the top 6 got paid. ICM is not really a factor when I am way behind on chips and so far from the bubble and the blinds are about to go up which would leave me with 7.5bbs if I fold. Posted by DoubleAAA
In Response to Re: Villian asked me to post this hand as said Im a donkey : Yes I should of shoved pre instead of min-raising. At least you understand why I called and questioned the 42 shove. Posted by DoubleAAA
dont worry what they say yes u shuda went all in but with the chip stacks so small why is he even shovin with 4 2 u gotta call forget what they say u made a mistake and he made a bigger mistake
im no expert but everything seems wrong in this hand,the min raise with the plan to call if the BB shoves,if that was the plan why not just shove yourself,theres a hole lot of difference between calling and shoving,what i mean by that is u can shove any 2 cards , but u shouldent be calling with any 2..personally i dont think u had a plan,i think you just min raised expecting the fold from a player you say had only played one hand......now the shove with 2,4.by the BB.. thats not as bad as might look , lol.after all its against someone whos min raised numerous times and theres a good chance the raiser might fold,if not he probably has live cards with 2,4....now the call ,i carnt explane that one, maybe he just fancied a gamble...my advice for wat its worth ,get them in before they do lol..it would have saved all this,the BB would have just decked his 2,4.......gl all Posted by zxghostxz
if hes min raised then im foldin 4 2 all the way cause the stacks are so small its all in or nothin the min raise is bad but the shove 42 is worse why even moan when u get called
In Response to Re: Villian asked me to post this hand as said Im a donkey : if hes min raised then im foldin 4 2 all the way cause the stacks are so small its all in or nothin the min raise is bad but the shove 42 is worse why even moan when u get called Posted by reeler
i dont think he moaned about it.. i think he was more surprised by it..im not sayin he was right to go all in with 42, wat im sayin is i understand why he would..prob thought there was a good chance the raiser would lay it down.
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