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ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR

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  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR:
    Monday and Tuesday night's sessions combined: (Monday was ~£20 down, Tuesday ~£70 up and the £22 and £16.50 were Monday): Played 31 £11s W 20 L 11 Played 1 £16.50 W 1 Played 1 £22 L 1 Bankroll - £372.02 Poker points - 2792 The bigger buy-ins were an attempt to get a few extra points in the bag. Now that I have to play 21 more £11s and am properly 'rolled for the £16.50s I feel confident again that I will make 3,000 points this month for a nice welcome £50 bonus.
    Posted by JohnConnor
    Wow, this is truly amazing JC, how quickly you've turned such a small amount of money into soon to be £400+ with your C4P. I wish I had that ability. I was moaning about a bit of bad variance when I was playing DYMs and I was getting some of that, but obviously my overall game just wasn't good enough to cope with that and still come out on top (as you've done)
  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited February 2014
    To be honest MP33, I don't think Shanxta is short enough that it's gonna majorly affect his shoving range here. Sure he's only got 7 BBs but when a big blind is 200, most people on the table will be in similar circumstances so I still fancy he is still playing a quite tight range. I think much more often than not you're flipping here and I hate flipping in DYMs for virtually your life.
  • MP33MP33 Member Posts: 6,300
    edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR:
    To be honest MP33, I don't think Shanxta is short enough that it's gonna majorly affect his shoving range here. Sure he's only got 7 BBs but when a big blind is 200, most people on the table will be in similar circumstances so I still fancy he is still playing a quite tight range. I think much more often than not you're flipping here and I hate flipping in DYMs for virtually your life.
    Posted by Lambert180
    i know what your saying Lambert, but i did think iwas flipping although hoped he could have AQ or even AK and if i lose the flip i,ve still got a chance of getting back into it with 640 chips wheras i win the flip and i,m virtually gtd a cash

    would like to hear Jc,s views on this one ( or any of the other DYM regs who post on here )
  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited February 2014
    Yeah that's fair enough, I'm hardly the king of DYMs lol. I just can't see how flipping for 75% of our stack will be good long term, especially if he's not short stack on the bubble AND against a seasoned pro like Shanxta.
  • MP33MP33 Member Posts: 6,300
    edited February 2014
    Stepped up to £20 after spotting an easyish gane on SS - Had to play it

    Man ged to get a good stack with this hand (after reading the poker clinic + jc,c thread - sometimes would have limped )and didn,t have to go all in again

    Learnt a lot from this game and managed to cash

    Went of my read on this one - it was a snap call , he had been slow playing his good hands , so thats what he would have done with his queen or better if he had it - better take his name out now
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    zandan25 Small blind  50.00 50.00 1770.00
    Fza Big blind  100.00 150.00 1425.00
      Your hole cards
    • 9
    • 9
         
    TIDDLES11 Fold     
    bela Fold     
    MP33 Raise  250.00 400.00 1830.00
    xxxxxxx Call  250.00 650.00 970.00
    zandan25 Fold     
    Fza Fold     
    Flop
       
    • 2
    • Q
    • 6
         
    MP33 Check     
    xxxxxxx All-in  970.00 1620.00 0.00
    MP33 Call  970.00 2590.00 860.00
    MP33 Show
    • 9
    • 9
       
    xxxxxxx Show
    • J
    • K
       
    Turn
       
    • 5
         
    River
       
    • Q
         
    MP33 Win Two Pairs, Queens and 9s 2590.00  3450.00

    Played 6
    Won    2
    lost     4

    -5.50
    -5.50
    -5.50
    -5.50
    +2.70
    +18

    = - £1.30
  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR:
    In Response to Re: ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR : Hi Dudeskin, thanks very much mate. You're a player on here I've got tons of respect for and I was just about to signpost some of the guys on here to your hands in the clinic. For anyone who hasn't seem them yet they're excellent examples of DYM hands and posting hands like those will be very good for your game indeed. Please keep posting them sir. Also really looking forward to your DYM challenge in December, I know you're very big on BRM so I'm sure you'll be very successful, see you at the tables (hopefully not too many) ! :-)
    Posted by JohnConnor
    Thanks for replying to them all very much appreciated ;). Will defo be posting many more as the month progresses. For the most part decisions are fairly obvious but whenever I get in that tricky stage around (25/50 - 50/100) where any preflop raises and post play have to be spot on I always want to make sure I'm doing things right and hopefully cut out any leaks.

    Also just another question you mention making it 3x all the way up to 75/150, you did say this could be too much and tbh coming from an MTT game it does seem MASSIVE especially late on when I might only have 10-15 BBs, do you think even just minraising IP could be good so you keep pot small?
  • JohnConnorJohnConnor Member Posts: 1,160
    edited February 2014
    Quick update from last night, I will try to catch up on some of the hands/Qs on this thread asap. I had a nice steady break-even session of less than a couple hours which got me over the 3k C4P mark:

    Played 4 £16.50s W 1 L 3
    Played 15 £11s W 10 L 5

    Bankroll - £371.02 + £50 C4P paid today making bankroll £421.02.

    I will post again later hopefully looking back on November and setting targets for December. Looking to start the month well tonight in front of the live show as well :-)
  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited February 2014
    Well done JC, 3 months starting at 30p DYM - now with £421
    Might be worth giving DYM's a bit more thought )

    It really does show what is possible if you have the knowledge you do
    I don't think everybody could do this, or do you think otherwise JC ?


  • MP33MP33 Member Posts: 6,300
    edited February 2014
    WD again JC

    Is it best for you to post hands on this thread or poker clinic for DYM,s ?

    MP
  • ian1976ian1976 Member Posts: 37
    edited February 2014
    Well done John Connor!!  Very tidy work indeed!!

    Here are my stats for the whole of November:

    Played - 309
    Won - 184
    Lost - 125

    So that gives me a +59 for the month.  Managed to get just over 4000 poker points so that will give me a nice little bonus of £75!

    So another month begins, good luck fellow friends :)

    PS - Mr JC, nice slow play with your AA earlier, I must return the favour ;)
  • stretch83stretch83 Member Posts: 154
    edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR:
    Quick update from last night, I will try to catch up on some of the hands/Qs on this thread asap. I had a nice steady break-even session of less than a couple hours which got me over the 3k C4P mark: Played 4 £16.50s W 1 L 3 Played 15 £11s W 10 L 5 Bankroll - £371.02 + £50 C4P paid today making bankroll £421.02. I will post again later hopefully looking back on November and setting targets for December. Looking to start the month well tonight in front of the live show as well :-)
    Posted by JohnConnor
    Truly insparational JC, looking forward to your target setting post. 
  • stretch83stretch83 Member Posts: 154
    edited February 2014
    Played 16  Won 7 lost 9  a real character building session, had to fight for every game, lost a lot of races but felt that I played pretty well.  I have looked on sharkscope, and I always seem to struggle on Friday evenings.  I don't think I have a big enough sample size yet, but has anyone any theories on this?

    Review of my goals for Nov

    Get rolled for £3.30's check
    1000 Poker points Fail
    Feature on the first page of STT league check (qualified for league stars)

    Goals for Dec
    Get rolled for £5.50's (50 buy ins) £275 need to make £83.38
    1000 Poker points
    Qualify for league stars


  • JohnConnorJohnConnor Member Posts: 1,160
    edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR:
    In Response to Re: ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR : This wasn,t an exit hand but pretty much cost me a cash in this one . Shanxta was fairly low stacked and with the blinds about to reach him and goig up soon I thought his range would be wider  Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance MP33 Small blind   100.00 100.00 1960.00 Krzy1 Big blind   200.00 300.00 3875.00   Your hole cards A K       shammy161 Fold         SHANXTA All-in   1430.00 1730.00 0.00 bearace Fold         MP33 All-in   1960.00 3690.00 0.00 Krzy1 Fold         MP33 Unmatched bet   630.00 3060.00 630.00 MP33 Show A K       SHANXTA Show 7 7       Flop     4 7 A       Turn     8       River     J       SHANXTA Win Three 7s 3060.00   3060.00   looking at it now , i,m still not sure if this was the right move or not especially as its Shanxta 2/  After looking at your chart of where ur in trouble in these games, i was running out of hands and don,t know if this was a bit rash ? Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance daiyellow Small blind   150.00 150.00 5060.00 ballsman Big blind   300.00 450.00 1420.00   Your hole cards Q 6       wason06 Fold         MP33 All-in   1405.00 1855.00 0.00 Meeny Fold         daiyellow Fold         ballsman All-in   1420.00 3275.00 0.00 ballsman Unmatched bet   315.00 2960.00 315.00 ballsman Show Q J       MP33 Show Q 6       Flop     10 K 10       Turn     J       River     3       ballsman Win Two Pairs, Jacks and 10s 2960.00   3275.00 3/ i think was standard and would do the same again Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance wrongjohn1 Small blind   150.00 150.00 1580.00 jutka9 Big blind   300.00 450.00 3430.00   Your hole cards 3 3       MP33 All-in   1125.00 1575.00 0.00 pokaboss Fold         wrongjohn1 All-in   1580.00 3155.00 0.00 jutka9 Fold         wrongjohn1 Unmatched bet   605.00 2550.00 605.00 wrongjohn1 Show J J       MP33 Show 3 3       Flop     9 5 8       Turn     10       River     7       wrongjohn1 Win Straight to the Jack 2550.00   3155.00 4 and 5 _ not posted as they were pretty standard, but there were shoves because i was getting low on chips and still with 5 players , which means there is something going wrong in the middle part of the games levels 3 + - I,m just getting unsure when to steal try stealing the blinds as i seem to be leaking to many chips during levels 3-5 - Gonna take a look at the hands inthe clinic from dudeskin and play another 1 or 2 . I,ve had a brk and am not tilting and don,t mind if get bad beats . thats a good thing in my book Paul
    Posted by MP33
    Hi MP33, sorry I'm rather late in getting round to this.

    Hand 1 I find the most interesting and I honestly don't mind your call here. It looks very marginal as you might not be desperate just yet. If the blinds are up in the next 30s I snap call. That opponent sat 2 to your right is another factor which should make you lean more towards calling. If you don't call here be aware that a good player is going to keep pressing and you'll most likely wish you could get that AK back.

    The Q6 shove I don't mind at all, you're desperate in my book but the bb still can fold, wp ul.

    The 33 ship is standard, wp ul again.

    Regarding the mid stages it could honestly be varience, this is something I notice from time to time. It could be varience in the sense that you just happen to be in tougher games where there's 5 or 6 left later. Or it could be that you're card dead so everytime you steal you have to later give up the hand. Be patient, sooner or later the hands will come and you'll make a lot of chips when people play back because they've seen your failed steals recently. A few of these and your steals should start to get more respect again. Re actual stealing hands my advice is to pick hands that make top or 2nd pair with a decent kicker, mid pairs, broadway, big As basically. Small pairs aren't much good.
  • JohnConnorJohnConnor Member Posts: 1,160
    edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR:
    Stepped up to £20 after spotting an easyish gane on SS - Had to play it Man ged to get a good stack with this hand (after reading the poker clinic + jc,c thread - sometimes would have limped )and didn,t have to go all in again Learnt a lot from this game and managed to cash Went of my read on this one - it was a snap call , he had been slow playing his good hands , so thats what he would have done with his queen or better if he had it - better take his name out now Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance zandan25 Small blind   50.00 50.00 1770.00 Fza Big blind   100.00 150.00 1425.00   Your hole cards 9 9       TIDDLES11 Fold         bela Fold         MP33 Raise   250.00 400.00 1830.00 xxxxxxx  Call   250.00 650.00 970.00 zandan25 Fold         Fza Fold         Flop     2 Q 6       MP33 Check         xxxxxxx  All-in   970.00 1620.00 0.00 MP33 Call   970.00 2590.00 860.00 MP33 Show 9 9       xxxxxxx  Show J K       Turn     5       River     Q       MP33 Win Two Pairs, Queens and 9s 2590.00   3450.00 Played 6 Won    2 lost     4 -5.50 -5.50 -5.50 -5.50 +2.70 +18 = - £1.30
    Posted by MP33
    Nice hand MP33, well played. Well done on a very nice cash!
  • JohnConnorJohnConnor Member Posts: 1,160
    edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR:
    In Response to Re: ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR : Thanks for replying to them all very much appreciated ;). Will defo be posting many more as the month progresses. For the most part decisions are fairly obvious but whenever I get in that tricky stage around (25/50 - 50/100) where any preflop raises and post play have to be spot on I always want to make sure I'm doing things right and hopefully cut out any leaks. Also just another question you mention making it 3x all the way up to 75/150, you did say this could be too much and tbh coming from an MTT game it does seem MASSIVE especially late on when I might only have 10-15 BBs, do you think even just minraising IP could be good so you keep pot small?
    Posted by Dudeskin8
    Hi Dude. In short, yes I do. I like to discourage action mostly (of course) but if a min raise gets the job done then that's great. With regards to 3xing in the later stages this is an area I have adapted in my own game and I no longer raise 3x from level 4+ as a rule. I think I've improved my game a bit here as I am varying my sizes according to what I want to achieve rather than robotically hitting the 3x button.
  • JohnConnorJohnConnor Member Posts: 1,160
    edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR:
    Well done JC, 3 months starting at 30p DYM - now with £421 Might be worth giving DYM's a bit more thought ) It really does show what is possible if you have the knowledge you do I don't think everybody could do this, or do you think otherwise JC ?
    Posted by rancid
    Hi rancid. As I said in the blog, in the line Tikay picked out to promote it, I genuinely believe anyone could build a 4 figure 'roll playing DYMs. All it takes really is discipline, time and thought. I stumbled across DYMs as soon as I found Sky, fell in love with them, and from there on I just taught myself by thinking about hands. DYMs are an easy game to do this with as your goal is always clear: finish in the top 3 more than X% of the time. So every 'problem' can be analysed in that way.
  • JohnConnorJohnConnor Member Posts: 1,160
    edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR:
    WD again JC Is it best for you to post hands on this thread or poker clinic for DYM,s ? MP
    Posted by MP33
    Hi again MP33. To be honest, as was said in the clinic too, you should get more views/replies in there. There's a good core of DYMers in here now though, so I see no harm in posting hands in both should you wish to do so. Or you could use this thread to plug clinic hands etc.
  • JohnConnorJohnConnor Member Posts: 1,160
    edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR:
    Played 16  Won 7 lost 9  a real character building session, had to fight for every game, lost a lot of races but felt that I played pretty well.  I have looked on sharkscope, and I always seem to struggle on Friday evenings.  I don't think I have a big enough sample size yet, but has anyone any theories on this? Review of my goals for Nov Get rolled for £3.30's check 1000 Poker points Fail Feature on the first page of STT league check (qualified for league stars) Goals for Dec Get rolled for £5.50's (50 buy ins) £275 need to make £83.38 1000 Poker points Qualify for league stars
    Posted by stretch83
    Hi stretch, I have a very simple view on this. It's varience. Over a proper sample size you should definately be seeing that Friday nights are among your best times. I remember searching once with no real sample size myself at a particular stake and my best time was Tuesday during the day, lol. That's just nonsense. You need a much bigger sample size to start picking best/worst times than the standard amounts quoted to see if your a winning player or not so I wouldn't worry about it much at all if I were you.
  • JohnConnorJohnConnor Member Posts: 1,160
    edited February 2014
    Just a quick thanks to all the well wishers on this thread for all your continued support, it's really, really helpful and I'm loving it to be honest. It is motivating too, thank you all. I wish everyone the very best of luck with there own personal goals.

    Goal review/setting will have to wait until later now as I'm out of time again, sigh. Will be on again tonight though. I also intend to catch up on other specific DYM challenge threads later too, can't wait!
  • JohnConnorJohnConnor Member Posts: 1,160
    edited February 2014
    Really weird night tonight in the £11s and £16.50s. The games were really soft and I played well I thought but ran really poorly. I saw some really weird boards run out in favour of short-stacks who were all but dead on the flop and constantly encountered big stacks who were intent on doubling up short stacks as well. These are my biggest DYM bug-bears, really, so I was quite frustrated at times if I'm honest. The result was OK, though, although I felt it could have been better. These stats might be slightly out as I was pretty tired at times:

    Played 8 £16.50s W 4 L 4
    Played 18 £11s W 12 L 6
    Bankroll - £481.02

    So tomorrow I will be kicking off some £22s which I'm really looking forward to...
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