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ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR

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  • JohnConnorJohnConnor Member Posts: 1,160
    edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR:
    Almost forgot, targets for November: - Move upto £11 DYMs (so BR of £220) - 3,000 Poker Points - Top 30 League Position (target of being in the top 4 by the end of Dec looks a little unlikely but we will see)
    Posted by JohnConnor
    This is how I ended November:

    Bankroll - £371.02 + £50 C4P =£421.02
    3,000 Poker Points
    Top 30 League Position (just)

    So all targets were met in November which I'm really pleased with, particularly the bankroll increase although my target might have been a touch on the conservative side. A bit disappointed with my league position but that is what it is to be honest, there a few real grinders out there now so it takes a lot of volume to be right up there and I'm pretty busy at the moment.

    December targets:

    Originally my targets were going to be to move up to £22s and earn 4,000 Poker Points but as I have only just gotten around to setting them, I obviously need to adjust these as I will be starting £22s tomorrow anyway. So my targets will be:

    Move upto £33 DYMs (so increase bankroll to at least £660)
    Earn 6,000 poker points

    I think these targets could be quite difficult to meet, particularly if I need to drop straight back down to £11s and £16.50s. Then again, with a bit of run good they may be quite easily achieved, we will have to see, obviously hoping for the latter.

    I wish everyone the best of luck with your own December goals and hope it is a prosperous month for us all!
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  • Poker_FailPoker_Fail Member Posts: 1,755
    edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR:
    Really weird night tonight in the £11s and £16.50s. The games were really soft and I played well I thought but ran really poorly. I saw some really weird boards run out in favour of short-stacks who were all but dead on the flop and constantly encountered big stacks who were intent on doubling up short stacks as well. These are my biggest DYM bug-bears, really, so I was quite frustrated at times if I'm honest. The result was OK, though, although I felt it could have been better. These stats might be slightly out as I was pretty tired at times: Played 8 £16.50s W 4 L 4 Played 18 £11s W 12 L 6 Bankroll - £481.02 So tomorrow I will be kicking off some £22s which I'm really looking forward to...
    Posted by JohnConnor
    Looks like you havn't quite been following your 22buyin guide ;)

    Otherwise winning 2 £16.50s and losing 2 would mean you didn't have the roll for the £22s lol

    So I guess you were just playing both levels for volume?
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  • JohnConnorJohnConnor Member Posts: 1,160
    edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR:
    In Response to Re: ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR : Looks like you havn't quite been following your 22buyin guide ;) Otherwise winning 2 £16.50s and losing 2 would mean you didn't have the roll for the £22s lol So I guess you were just playing both levels for volume?
    Posted by Poker_Fail
    Hi PF, for the purposes of this challenge I've been using the slightly more aggressive approach of 20 buy-ins throughout. I thought I had made this clear at the outset but looking back what I actually said was 20-22, so thanks for pulling that up. So yeah I'm using 20 buy-ins which will be quite aggressive for the £22s onwards to be honest. IF, touch wood, this challenge ends successfully then I will revert back to being quite conservative in my BRM as I will be looking to play quite seriously again then.
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  • JohnConnorJohnConnor Member Posts: 1,160
    edited February 2014
    An unhappy start in the £22s just then:

    Played 5 £22s W 1 L 4
    Played 2 £16.50s W 1 L 1
    Bankroll - £408.02

    Back to the £11s or £16.50s for me for a while :-(
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  • JohnConnorJohnConnor Member Posts: 1,160
    edited February 2014
    Things picked up a bit later today, fortunately:

    Played 16 £11s W 10 L 7
    Played 7 £16.50s W 6 L 1
    Played 6 £22s W 4 L 2
    Bankroll - £513.52
    Poker Points - 935
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  • stretch83stretch83 Member Posts: 154
    edited February 2014
    Awesome stuff JC!
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  • JohnConnorJohnConnor Member Posts: 1,160
    edited February 2014
    Quick update from last session as I start a few games now:

    Played 12 £22s W 7 L 5
    Bankroll - £529.52
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited February 2014
    Just had a quick look to see ur progress very impressed that your up to £500 already, u are truly are awesome JC hope not to run into u at the tables.

    Most of all GL
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  • JohnConnorJohnConnor Member Posts: 1,160
    edited February 2014
    Thanks YG, appreciate that.

    Just played a few games and managed to note down a couple of hands. The first was one was really interesting at the time and had me in the tank a bit:
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    sb Small blind  25.00 25.00 1210.00
    xxxBig blind  50.00 75.00 3860.00
     Your hole cards
    • A
    • 9
    		   
    mitchuk14 Fold     
    What_if Fold     
    JohnConnor Raise  150.00 225.00 2130.00
    sbCall  125.00 350.00 1085.00
    xxx Call  100.00 450.00 3760.00
    Flop
      
    • 5
    • A
    • Q
    		   
    sbCheck     
    xxx Bet  50.00 500.00 3710.00
    JohnConnor Call  50.00 550.00 2080.00
    sbCall  50.00 600.00 1035.00
    Turn
      
    • 2
    		   
    sbCheck     
    xxx Bet  50.00 650.00 3660.00
    JohnConnor Call  50.00 700.00 2030.00
    sbCall  50.00 750.00 985.00
    River
      
    • 9
    		   
    sbCheck     
    xxx All-in  3660.00 4410.00 0.00
    JohnConnor Fold     
    sbFold     
    xxx Muck     
    xxx Win  750.00  750.00
    xxx Return  3660.00 0.00 4410.00
    This is a standard button raise, the sb has been playing extremely loose passive and I haven't seen xxx do anything noteworthy yet. It's obviously a good flop for me but I am a bit confused by the min donk bet out so elect to call for pot control. I could have raised for information and folded to a shove but went for pot control on what I saw as a miles ahead or miles behind situation. I was not at all worried about the sb as he was extremely loose passive, calling down with A8 high earlier. I think there's a good chance I have him almost dead here. The turn's a brick and I elect for pot control again for the same reasons as on the flop. I intend to either call a decent bet on the river or make a small raise if he min bets again, medium pot for a medium hand kind of idea. The 9 on the river looked to be a superb card for me as I now went ahead of all As except AQ. I'm calling anything upto a pot sized bet here and raising any smaller bets that look weak. But then xxx shoves and I go into the tank. Eventually I time-out fold, thinking that he must have 555 or AQ and was min betting to induce raises on the fop and turn. Of course it helped that I had a solid stack with blinds at 25/50.

    The next hand is my exit hand in the same game to the same player. It supports my read in the above hand, looking at the post-flop play. Unfortunately I might have copied this hand no. down wrong but I cannot find it searching manually either so maybe there is problem with some HHs at the moment (??). Basically I min raised the button with AQ at 75/150 and he flats in the BB again. He then min donks the Q-7-x flop and I shove to be snapped by Q7. I noted in a later game, as well, that the same player open shoved 2000 from early position in level 1 with A3o.

    The third I don't know if there's too much to discuss, I guess there's plenty who get it in here but with no fold equity and a chance that the top end of my straight draw is dead I prefer to just sit this one out, despite the great pot odds. Probably a spot, for me, where 'DYM odds' override standard pot odds. The hand probably goes someway to explaining why I never get straight flushes :-(
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    peteAA Small blind  75.00 75.00 1725.00
    JohnConnor Big blind  150.00 225.00 1875.00
     Your hole cards
    • 4
    • 5
    		   
    Ace_Adgit Call  150.00 375.00 1550.00
    121285 Fold     
    CharlieWin Call  150.00 525.00 4795.00
    peteAA Call  75.00 600.00 1650.00
    JohnConnor Check     
    Flop
      
    • 7
    • 6
    • 9
    		   
    peteAA Check     
    JohnConnor Check     
    Ace_Adgit Bet  600.00 1200.00 950.00
    CharlieWin Call  600.00 1800.00 4195.00
    peteAA Fold     
    JohnConnor Fold     
    Turn
      
    • 4
    		   
    Ace_Adgit All-in  950.00 2750.00 0.00
    CharlieWin Call  950.00 3700.00 3245.00
    Ace_Adgit Show
    • K
    • 10
    		   
    CharlieWin Show
    • 8
    • 9
    		   
    River
      
    • 3
    		   
    Ace_Adgit Win Flush to the King 3700.00  3700.00
    The final hand shows a situation I mention in the blog of taking advantage of players who raise too much (ie 3x late on), this is a great source of chips for me. I know I'm well ahead of this players range here and I do actually have more FE than it would appear (I have notes that the guy can 3x/fold here). Luckily I hold:
    Ace_Adgit Small blind  150.00 150.00 4445.00
    121285 Big blind  300.00 450.00 2310.00
     Your hole cards
    • 9
    • 9
    		   
    xxxRaise  900.00 1350.00 1945.00
    JohnConnor All-in  1950.00 3300.00 0.00
    Ace_Adgit Fold     
    121285 Fold     
    xxxCall  1050.00 4350.00 895.00
    xxxShow
    • A
    • 8
    		   
    JohnConnor Show
    • 9
    • 9
    		   
    Flop
      
    • 7
    • 4
    • 10
    		   
    Turn
      
    • 10
    		   
    River
      
    • 3
    		   
    JohnConnor Win Two Pairs, 10s and 9s 4350.00
    Anyway, session stats:

    Played 8 £22s W 4 L 4
    Played 3 £16.50s W 1 L 2
    Bankroll - £494.02

    So not the best session but I am very happy with the way that I am playing at the moment. I am going to expect a few swings now that I'm up the levels a bit again. There were a few tough opponents today (to be expected during the day) which isn't ideal but still just about enough weaker players to make the games profitable, imo. Still going to look more forward to the evenings rather than the day sessions, I think.
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  • JohnConnorJohnConnor Member Posts: 1,160
    edited February 2014
    Really disappointing finish tonight in the £22s, was 5-1 up but somehow managed to end the session 6-6 :-(

    Bankroll - £470.02
    Poker Points - 1600
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  • MP33MP33 Member Posts: 6,305
    edited February 2014
    "This is a standard button raise, the sb has been playing extremely loose passive and I haven't seen xxx do anything noteworthy yet."

    I think in this spot if ive seen to aggro players to go and looking at the BB stack, with 2.1k i,d have to think about raising but might fold in the hope of them getting involved togethor

    what stacks are you making this raise with?  eg 600 - 4k and is that where i,m going wrong - by playing to tight at this level as i,d probably  only do it with less than 1900-2k

    MP
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  • MISTER_BMISTER_B Member Posts: 59
    edited February 2014
    Just read all 22 pages, and wow, this is a brilliant resource.

    Massive congrats and well done to JC, keep it up, I hope this thread stays alive as it's such a wealth of info and certinally has got me motivated to have ago, i've got £100 so might have ago at some £3.30's for starters.
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  • -Typhoon--Typhoon- Member Posts: 288
    edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR:
    In Response to Re: ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR : Overall I am happy around about october 20th I deposited £15 and I am sitting with £55.93  in my account, however I have got stuck at £2.25 level.  I really regret not keeping a tracker of my performance, as I have no real idea of how I am doing. I seem to run well, and then run really bad and end up at the £1.15s and grind my way back to £2.25's.  I know this is down to inexperience, however I seem to be improving recently after buying Colin Moshman guide to SNG's. How are you doing mate? 
    Posted by stretch83
    Hi Stretch

    I've just set up a spread sheet, for this very reason,  that works out games played, won & lost then gives a total of the week. This gives  me a clear picture of how i'm running. PM me your email and i'll send you a copy.


    Paul

    Edit: Let me know what level you play, so i can work the formula's out.
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  • MISTER_BMISTER_B Member Posts: 59
    edited February 2014
    Just played 2 £3.30's this morning, not much but hardly any liquidity at this time on a Saturday. It seems a lot easier today than on a weekday, pity I can't get many games yet.
    Won both, but it was close on the 2nd, on the bubble and card dead, not a good mix lol

    One thing I like to do is get a sharkscope of all my opponents, so I know roughly what they're about, if anyone wants there own sharkscope graphs etc, just give me a shout
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  • MISTER_BMISTER_B Member Posts: 59
    edited February 2014
    Question JC...

    May have been answered in this thread elsewhere, even though I've read it, i've already forgotten bits lol
    How many tables can you properly play at once, and what size monitor do you have?
    I can just about manage 3 cash at the moment, but can't fit anymore than 4 anyway because I have a standard laptop.

    Thanks and keep up the good form...
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  • Poker_FailPoker_Fail Member Posts: 1,755
    edited February 2014
    Wow the challenge has come a long way very quickly now! how many C4Ps do you expect thic month ?
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  • MISTER_BMISTER_B Member Posts: 59
    edited February 2014
    Promise this is the last question, I won't hijack this thread much more lol, I just want to run some HH past you all first, I've played 5 £3.30 today and won 4, using JC's guide, I'm more used to playing cash so this is taking a bit of getting used to!!!
    Quite a few HH here, but I won't become an annoying person who constantly posts them, I promise. It's my first full day playing DYM's and I just want to check with you experts that I'm on the right path!
    So away we go...

    I guess you would always shove here, but the fact their was a tight raiser early, what do you think? Yes I got lucky lol
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    MISTER_B Small blind   75.00 75.00 1870.00
    Enigma10 Big blind   150.00 225.00 3515.00
      Your hole cards
    • Q
    • Q
    		     
    playcards Fold        
    xxxx Raise   300.00 525.00 1190.00
    SCHOF78 Fold        
    MISTER_B All-in   1870.00 2395.00 0.00
    Enigma10 Fold        
    xxxx All-in   1190.00 3585.00 0.00
    MISTER_B Unmatched bet   455.00 3130.00 455.00
    MISTER_B Show
    • Q
    • Q
    		     
    xxxx Show
    • A
    • A
    		     
    Flop
       
    • 7
    • 4
    • 3
    		     
    Turn
       
    • K
    		     
    River
       
    • Q
    		     
    MISTER_B Win Three Queens 3130.00   3585.00
    Right, I'm kicking myself about this, great hand to start but should have folded post flop raise, look at the straight potential, would you have played any differently pre? My 1 loss of the day, and in my eyes could definatly have been avoidable!!!
    Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance
    MISTER_B Small blind   25.00 25.00 3120.00
    Dudeskin8 Big blind   50.00 75.00 1415.00
      Your hole cards
    • K
    • A
    		     
    lockett12 Fold        
    dazkirk Fold        
    xxxx Call   50.00 125.00 1360.00
    MISTER_B Raise   225.00 350.00 2895.00
    Dudeskin8 Fold        
    xxxx Call   200.00 550.00 1160.00
    Flop
       
    • 8
    • 9
    • Q
    		     
    MISTER_B Bet   275.00 825.00 2620.00
    xxxx
    		 All-in   1160.00 1985.00 0.00
    MISTER_B Call   885.00 2870.00 1735.00
    MISTER_B Show
    • K
    • A
    		     
    xxxx Show
    • K
    • Q
    		     
    Turn
       
    • 5
    		     
    River
       
    • K
    		     
    xxxx Win Two Pairs, Kings and Queens 2870.00   2870.00
    Do you agree with this play at these levels? I thought I was gambling too much..
    Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance
    MISTER_B Small blind   150.00 150.00 2025.00
    AJaX99 Big blind   300.00 450.00 3650.00
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • 10
    		     
    pokergirlz Fold        
    xxxx All-in   1210.00 1660.00 0.00
    Flossy25 Fold        
    MISTER_B Call   1060.00 2720.00 965.00
    AJaX99 Fold        
    MISTER_B Show
    • A
    • 10
    		     
    xxxx
    		 Show
    • 6
    • 7
    		     
    Flop
       
    • 3
    • 5
    • J
    		     
    Turn
       
    • J
    		     
    River
       
    • 10
    		     
    MISTER_B Win Two Pairs, Jacks and 10s 2720.00   3685.00
    Another one, am I gambling too much, or would you play this hand like this?
    Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance
    MISTER_B Small blind   75.00 75.00 2065.00
    AJaX99 Big blind   150.00 225.00 2425.00
      Your hole cards
    • Q
    • K
    		     
    pokergirlz Fold        
    xxxx
    		 Fold        
    Flossy25 Fold        
    xxxx Call   150.00 375.00 1085.00
    MISTER_B Raise   675.00 1050.00 1390.00
    AJaX99 Fold        
    xxxx Call   600.00 1650.00 485.00
    Flop
       
    • 3
    • 7
    • 10
    		     
    MISTER_B All-in   1390.00 3040.00 0.00
    xxxx All-in   485.00 3525.00 0.00
    MISTER_B Unmatched bet   905.00 2620.00 905.00
    MISTER_B Show
    • Q
    • K
    		     
    xxxx Show
    • 4
    • 8
    		     
    Turn
       
    • 9
    		     
    River
       
    • 10
    		     
    MISTER_B Win Pair of 10s 2620.00   3525.00
    Right, I hope you can advise whether I'm on the right track with some of my decisions, and thanks for any help guys!
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  • stretch83stretch83 Member Posts: 154
    edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR:
    In Response to Re: ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR : Hi Stretch I've just set up a spread sheet, for this very reason,  that works out games played, won & lost then gives a total of the week. This gives  me a clear picture of how i'm running. PM me your email and i'll send you a copy. Paul Edit: Let me know what level you play, so i can work the formula's out.
    Posted by -Typhoon-
    Hi Typhoon,

    I am back to playing the £3.30s now, I can't get my PM to work for some reason.  But would love a copy of your spreadsheet.  Could you try to PM me with your email address then I can send you an email?

    Stretch
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR:
    Hi all, I am in desperate need of some help, I moved upto the £5.50s and had some normal progress slow and steady upto a B.R of £250.  In 24 hours I have lost £50 and am running so bad I can't play anymore.  I know that I am not playing my a-game, and I feel so nervous about getting my chips in good because of the beats I have taken.  How can I shrug this off, I have tried playing through it and have just continued to lose. If you look at this post and send me some feedback, even if it is I have played like a complete $£"$!£" donk, I need to know as it is driving me completely insane, lol. https://www.skypoker.com/secure/poker/sky_lobby?action=show_static&page=poker_community_forums&plckForumPage=ForumDiscussion&plckDiscussionId=Cat%3a57795ac2-1793-4377-b4cf-e124b0f555f4Forum%3acdf513a4-4811-44dd-b210-c66d9e48e878Discussion%3a1b429b0c-632a-4c9e-841b-871dfcd634d2&plckCurrentPage=0
    Posted by stretch83
    I've had a go at them all, best reply on that thread stop this going off topic. ;)
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  • JohnConnorJohnConnor Member Posts: 1,160
    edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: ABC of DYM's, by JOHNCONNOR:
    "This is a standard button raise, the sb has been playing extremely loose passive and I haven't seen xxx do anything noteworthy yet." I think in this spot if ive seen to aggro players to go and looking at the BB stack, with 2.1k i,d have to think about raising but might fold in the hope of them getting involved togethor what stacks are you making this raise with?  eg 600 - 4k and is that where i,m going wrong - by playing to tight at this level as i,d probably  only do it with less than 1900-2k MP
    Posted by MP33
    Hi MP33, quite tough to answer but I guess I'm raising there with a stack size of 1300-2500ish. Less than 1300 and I can't afford to play without being committed I don't think and over 2500 and I'm abit more comfortable, playing a little tighter for a while.
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