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Spin Ups killing SKY Poker

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  • MrWh1teMrWh1te Member Posts: 963
    edited June 2016
    In Response to Re: Spin Ups killing SKY Poker:
    In Response to Re: Spin Ups killing SKY Poker : LOL you do know that there is less spin up regs like 3/4 that play every spin up game. there is 10-20 regs i can name that play the mid stakes deep tables. so answer your own question from that one :)
    Posted by SICKJOKE
    Wait a sec.

    So actually your complaint isn't that there is more spin up games.

    Your complaint is that the recs are playing a different game than you want them to?

    The game is still there, by your admission 10-20 that can play every game.  So go play against them and stop whining that your rec hunting isn't going as well as you want it to.

    It is regs that rec hunt that kills poker.

    Hypocrite.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,507
    edited June 2016
    In Response to Re: Spin Ups killing SKY Poker:
    In Response to Re: Spin Ups killing SKY Poker : What positive thing has mike ashley done for newcastle united because I can't think of one
    Posted by craigcu12
    Bankrolled them. Spent a fortune on players. Got them a great Manager.
     
    If you look hard enough, Craig, you can find positivity anywhere & everywhere.  
  • SICKJOKESICKJOKE Member Posts: 15
    edited June 2016
    In Response to Re: Spin Ups killing SKY Poker:
    In Response to Re: Spin Ups killing SKY Poker : Wait a sec. So actually your complaint isn't that there is more spin up games. Your complaint is that the recs are playing a different game than you want them to? The game is still there, by your admission 10-20 that can play every game.  So go play against them and stop whining that your rec hunting isn't going as well as you want it to. It is regs that rec hunt that kills poker. Hypocrite.
    Posted by MrWh1te
    I was replying to kidwiz actually when he said spin ups are full of recs and the pool of regs is much smaller in the deep games when actually its the opposite so please read previous posts correctly before you go shooting your mouth off. I play when I game runs thankyou :)

    Do you even play in these games as you dont seem to know what is actually happening?
  • MrWh1teMrWh1te Member Posts: 963
    edited June 2016
    And everyone else is playing the games they want, but it doesn't stop you whining :p
  • kidwiz10kidwiz10 Member Posts: 569
    edited June 2016
    In Response to Re: Spin Ups killing SKY Poker:
    In Response to Re: Spin Ups killing SKY Poker : I was replying to kidwiz actually when he said spin ups are full of recs and the pool of regs is much smaller in the deep games when actually its the opposite so please read previous posts correctly before you go shooting your mouth off. I play when I game runs thankyou :) Do you even play in these games as you dont seem to know what is actually happening?
    Posted by SICKJOKE

    I didn't say the spin ups were full of regs I said the spin ups were good for poker as people only wanna gamble and have fun not join a 100/200bb table and have 3/4 regs on it , I also said this is the reason I don't play on sky as the cash games through all the levels is full of 3/4 of the same players bum hunting then stand or sit out once the rec leaves.
  • craigcu12craigcu12 Member Posts: 3,962
    edited June 2016
    In Response to Re: Spin Ups killing SKY Poker:
    In Response to Re: Spin Ups killing SKY Poker : Bankrolled them. Spent a fortune on players. Got them a great Manager.   If you look hard enough, Craig, you can find positivity anywhere & everywhere.  
    Posted by Tikay10
    took him a while to do that he had went into the europa league season without a single summer transfer just winter panic buys and then an entire season of no transfers.

    We've been wanting a decen manager for ages but he was always happy enough to keep a one who took us on a long winless run and headbutted a player.
  • badcawlbadcawl Member Posts: 97
    edited June 2016
    In Response to Re: Spin Ups killing SKY Poker:
    In Response to Re: Spin Ups killing SKY Poker : Bankrolled them. Spent a fortune on players. Got them a great Manager.   If you look hard enough, Craig, you can find positivity anywhere & everywhere.  
    Posted by Tikay10


    I love cribbage;

    One for his nob,
    Two for doing it,
    Three for a run.
  • zinfanzinfan Member Posts: 2
    edited June 2016
    I agree that people need to be adaptable to change in poker. I also agree that people have the right to spend their money and time however they want.

    Please can these games just stay in their own tab?
  • DonttelmumDonttelmum Member Posts: 1,921
    edited June 2016
    I'm pretty sure I'm correct in saying there is no way of hiding them in my lobby.  I've tried most of the tabs (including the regular tab) and can't get rid of them.

    I really do think they need to be seperated.
  • ajs4385ajs4385 Member Posts: 455
    edited June 2016
    In Response to Re: Spin Ups killing SKY Poker:
    In Response to Re: Spin Ups killing SKY Poker : ....is factually & wholly INCORRECT. Sky Poker Cash game traffic, & number of uniques playing cash, have both increased significantly since 2011. This is not an assumption, or an opinion - it is a fact.    
    Posted by Tikay10
    You always say this, can you post some evidence please.

    I just say what I see, there used to be 10+ £1/2 and same 0.5/1 tables going on a night every night 5+ years ago.

    Fancy a bet.

    I reckon there wont be 10 £1/2 and 10 0.50/1 at any point tonight (remember tonight is a peak night so an advantage for you).



    I haven't played on here for a few month so I may be wrong but I doubt it.
  • ajs4385ajs4385 Member Posts: 455
    edited June 2016
    Also the amount of unique players have gone way down, every table used to be full of unique players too, not just same ones passing blinds around. I'm going to dig a screen shot out to back this up too.
  • ajs4385ajs4385 Member Posts: 455
    edited June 2016
  • shakinacesshakinaces Member Posts: 1,590
    edited June 2016
    In Response to Re: Spin Ups killing SKY Poker:
     
    Posted by ajs4385
    How did you get a photo approved so quickly?  Do you work for Sky?
  • OnlySmellsOnlySmells Member Posts: 3
    edited June 2016
    3pm and theres ZERO cash games to play at nl50 or higher on the whole site, there is 5 spin ups though. Maybe 20 odd players who came to play poker who are now playing games they have 0% chance of winning in (not that they know this) just because everywhere they look they are told they can spin up a fortune in this awesome format. GG, if each of these 20 odd players didn't have the option it would only take 1 of them to sit at a normal table for the table to fill up. 
  • Itsover4uItsover4u Member Posts: 1,538
    edited June 2016
    In Response to Re: Spin Ups killing SKY Poker:
     
    Posted by ajs4385
    How do you get those tables? they are a million times better than what I have?
  • Itsover4uItsover4u Member Posts: 1,538
    edited June 2016
    In Response to Re: Spin Ups killing SKY Poker:
    3pm and theres ZERO cash games to play at nl50 or higher on the whole site, there is 5 spin ups though. Maybe 20 odd players who came to play poker who are now playing games they have 0% chance of winning in (not that they know this) just because everywhere they look they are told they can spin up a fortune in this awesome format. GG, if each of these 20 odd players didn't have the option it would only take 1 of them to sit at a normal table for the table to fill up. 
    Posted by OnlySmells

    If they have 0% chance of winning at spin ups... what chance would you give them deep with regs waiting?
  • percival09percival09 Member Posts: 3,804
    edited June 2016
    I think the only argument presented by the regulars that at least has a chance of standing up is the OPs 2nd one, the one about spin up games having their own tab and not interfering with the 100bb games.

    As soon as pros start coming out and basically saying "it's better to give them no option so they can play the games I play which would allow me to make more money" is ridiculous and should stop here. The audacity of you guys to actually think the games you play should be the games other people play, ideally just the weaker players though, is quite shocking. And then to measure Sky's success based on how often your games run is so narrow minded it's quite unbelievable. We don't know how successful Sky has been over the past few years, TK says very successful, and we can be skeptical about that but we can't just presume he's lying based on how often 100bb £1/2 runs. 

    And, for the record, it's now 6pm and there are ELEVEN games running @ 50nl and above. 
  • sikassikas Member Posts: 857
    edited June 2016
    They're own exclusive tab would be a welcome addition - Capped and Spinups shouldnt be listed under 'Regular Games'
  • OnlySmellsOnlySmells Member Posts: 3
    edited June 2016
    In Response to Re: Spin Ups killing SKY Poker:
    In Response to Re: Spin Ups killing SKY Poker : If they have 0% chance of winning at spin ups... what chance would you give them deep with regs waiting?
    Posted by Itsover4u
    That depends how good they are but they would have the ability to improve because now this is a game where strategy and skill exist. I just don't like how these games are a quick and easy invention to skin players alive in rake whilst totally ignoring the effects it has on all the other regular players who pay many tens of thousands a year in rake, especially when everyone in them don't realise they're pretty much unbeatable. These guys came to player poker, the whole site would be better for everyone if these didn't exist, SNG's MTT's everything. Noone joins sky to play a 10bb slot machine, they come inspired from playing a home game or watching poker on TV, if these games didnt exist they would play on the 2c4c tables, 5c10c or whatever and the whole poker ecosystem would only be better off, seems pretty obvious.
  • ajs4385ajs4385 Member Posts: 455
    edited June 2016
    In Response to Re: Spin Ups killing SKY Poker:
    I think the only argument presented by the regulars that at least has a chance of standing up is the OPs 2nd one, the one about spin up games having their own tab and not interfering with the 100bb games. As soon as pros start coming out and basically saying "it's better to give them no option so they can play the games I play which would allow me to make more money" is ridiculous and should stop here. The audacity of you guys to actually think the games you play should be the games other people play, ideally just the weaker players though, is quite shocking. And then to measure Sky's success based on how often your games run is so narrow minded it's quite unbelievable. We don't know how successful Sky has been over the past few years, TK says very successful, and we can be skeptical about that but we can't just presume he's lying based on how often 100bb £1/2 runs.  And, for the record, it's now 6pm and there are ELEVEN games running @ 50nl and above. 
    Posted by percival09
    There would be 40 or so games running at 6pm 50nl+ 5 years ago.

    I picked cash as an example of Sky as that is my field of expertise and its what matters when a site makes profit or not.

    I never said Tikay was lying. I just wanted to know how he is measuring the site is doing better than it used to. Like I said everything I see it is doing worse. Other people say the same occasionally old regs pop up and they say in chat how bad things are compared to what it used to be.

    Browndog turned up last year after not seeing him for two years on the site. He said something along the lines of its dead on here. I saw dantb10 in g Sheffield about a year ago, one of main topics of conversation was how sky has gone down hill.

    How is it audacious that most players want poker to be a game of skill and are against sites trying to take skill out of the game and charge a load more in rake at the same time.

    I assume people love poker because it is a game of skill, if this is the case you should be fighting against theses tables.
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