each to there own is my opinion, i cant stand them, bore the pants off me, poker should be about winning not coming 3rd. stt are training for proper torns and you will learn nothing from dym. its 4.50 profit from a 5.50 dym. Posted by MICKYBLUE
Seems like you're comparing DYMs to specifically HUSNGs?
If you want to know why DYMs are more popular then you need to think about how lower edge/ increased affect of variance on short term results influences the game selection of the 80% of players that drive the market.
each to there own is my opinion, i cant stand them, bore the pants off me, poker should be about winning not coming 3rd. stt are training for proper torns and you will learn nothing from dym. its 4.50 profit from a 5.50 dym. Posted by MICKYBLUE
You said it better than me, and I agree.
Seems like one step up from the worst of all, the Russian Roulette games. Admittedly the DYMs at least have some elements of skill involved, but seem to often end up being a luckbox game for who bubbles. Much more skill in either six-max or HUs games in comparison. And your final comment too as I mentioned earlier, even doing well wins you a small prize, at least doing very well in a 6-max means a decent payout.
This is a very silly thread To say that dyms are similar to Russian roulettes is ridiculous. Look at the returns of some of the regs who play dyms. They make a living from the games. Are they just lucky? As mentioned earlier dyms can help your end play in mtts and particularly sats as well. I would like lower rake too, who wouldn't? However it's acceptable and with volume, decent rakeback can be made too. Posted by Jac35
Seems to have stirred several different views and comments, so hardly see how it's silly.
I compare them to RRs because of the games which end in luckboxes where your massive blind (by that point) often depends on both hole and board cards randomly. Good comparison to the silly RRs IMO, at that stage in these games. I know not all games go like that, but plenty DYMs do.
In Response to Re: Why are DYMs so popular compared to other sngs? : Seems to have stirred several different views and comments, so hardly see how it's silly. I compare them to RRs because of the games which end in luckboxes where your massive blind (by that point) often depends on both hole and board cards randomly. Good comparison to the silly RRs IMO, at that stage in these games. I know not all games go like that, but plenty DYMs do. Posted by swanstu
Is probably why the thread was called silly when you make comparisons like that.
I still play them from time to time to fill some table space. The way they are raked the same price as every other game is silly. For a good reg the maximum roi you can expect longterm from these games is between 3% and 5%.
They used to be a lot more popular a few years ago now not so much when a lot of regs quit when they probobly wernt making enough money from them realising there roi was capped playing them and the other players were losing after rake.
Only way to get the lobbys full again is to lower the rake. Keeping it the way it is doesnt make any sense for both sky to get the lobbys full again and to make it worthwhile for players to play them.
I still play them from time to time to fill some table space. The way they are raked the same price as every other game is silly. For a good reg the maximum roi you can expect longterm from these games is between 3% and 5%. They used to be a lot more popular a few years ago now not so much when a lot of regs quit when they probobly wernt making enough money from them realising there roi was capped playing them and the other players were losing after rake. Only way to get the lobbys full again is to lower the rake. Keeping it the way it is doesnt make any sense for both sky to get the lobbys full again and to make it worthwhile for players to play them. Posted by bearlyther
In Response to Re: Why are DYMs so popular compared to other sngs? : Is probably why the thread was called silly when you make comparisons like that. They are nothing alike whatsoever. Posted by hhyftrftdr
When you're forced at times to play large blinds in blind against opponents...nothing like RR games...?
I still play them from time to time to fill some table space. The way they are raked the same price as every other game is silly. For a good reg the maximum roi you can expect longterm from these games is between 3% and 5%. They used to be a lot more popular a few years ago now not so much when a lot of regs quit when they probobly wernt making enough money from them realising there roi was capped playing them and the other players were losing after rake. Only way to get the lobbys full again is to lower the rake. Keeping it the way it is doesnt make any sense for both sky to get the lobbys full again and to make it worthwhile for players to play them. Posted by bearlyther
In Response to Re: Why are DYMs so popular compared to other sngs? : And what about people who play DYMs first before dipping their toes in the sats waters? They will have learnt nothing either? No transferable skills/situations? Posted by hhyftrftdr
yes they may have learnt to play sat's i wish them the best of luck in the proper torn they sat into tho with DYM strategy. as ive said DYM bore me so i dont play them. there a few that do play them that are much better players than there stats are showing and would be much better off playing normal stt but they can take a age to start atm completely upto them of course.
OP just struggles to get his point accross, not a silly thread imo just a few silly comments.
Im not wrong pretty common knowledge thats what you can achieve from these games long term. I cant be bothered to go and check a load of players stats if you would like to do that and let us know the results feel free.
Would have thought pretty difficult to know exactly what some may or may not be making purely from DYMs....unless you had your own tracker on them, and just for those specific games alone.
But the low payouts and luck/variance elements are surely the big limiters on larger returns I would have thought.
You used this year only? and all sites? and included 50 50s to back up your claim?
You said that the max roi for a good reg is capped at 5%
That's just wrong. For instance I'm probably classed as a good reg and my roi is over 7% from a 15k sample. So it seems hardly capped at 5% if I can just use my own stats to disprove that straightaway
"A few years ago a lot of regs quit after realising their roi was capped?"
Who?
I think you should be wary of stating your opinions as facts.
I have only really recently noticed a decline in dym numbers. I would like the rake to be reduced of course but I don't think that will happen.
It's the summer so it's difficult to know for sure if dyms are dying on here.
I think they desperately need a promo. Numbers are always fantastic during dym promotions and some of the players might stick around after it's finished.
I think Sky made a huge mistake when they retracted on the triple points last year.
I certainly lowered my volume after that
Maybe if they added breaks then someone of your daunting ability may play more dyms eh Conor?
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