3 to 5% long term is pretty standard surprised you didnt know that considering youve played so many games? How many regs do you know with an roi higher than that? Did you not get how i mentioned longterm aswell? So youve won an extra 2% over 15k games whoop de doo.
I also seen that you edited your last post stating that i didnt know what i was talking about. I know a lot more about it than you seem to do thats for sure . Hope to see you on the tables soon good luck.
3 to 5% long term is pretty standard surprised you didnt know that considering youve played so many games? How many regs do you know with an roi higher than that? Did you not get how i mentioned longterm aswell? So youve won an extra 2% over 15k games whoop de doo. I also seen that you edited your last post stating that i didnt know what i was talking about. I know a lot more about it than you seem to do thats for sure . Hope to see you on the tables soon good luck. Posted by bearlyther
I wouldn't question you about online mtts.
You know more than me about them.
Your ignorance about dyms makes this conversation pointless
I'm really sad to see so much vitriol directed at those who choose to play DYM's. (Which I should add, for balance, includes me).
We enjoy playing DYM's for a whole bunch of reasons, but I don't feel inclined to have to justify what format I play. I would just add that personally I enjoy the low variance, as I don't enjoy the pain of high variance. Why is that a problem to anyone else?
Can't make money at DYM's? Do me a favour. I did a bankroll challenge which was well documented on this Forum, & multiplied my £200 starting 'roll by 20, & have not deposited a penny for 4 years. And - don't tell a soul, it's a secret - I enjoy them, & I'm not in the least ashamed to say so.
I don't like Heads Up at all, nor do I like regular STT's, MTT's, or anything else to be honest. But I won't come on here & insult those who do, or suggest their preferred formats make no sense. If that's what they enjoy, good luck to them.
Just because we don't like something does not mean it's bad or we should come on here & insult those who do.
Relax guys, we are all here to have fun, we are amateur or recreational poker players. Or most of us are.
I'm really sad to see so much vitriol directed at those who choose to play DYM's. (Which I should add, for balance, includes me). We enjoy playing DYM's for a whole bunch of reasons, but I don't feel inclined to have to justify what format I play. I would just add that personally I enjoy the low variance, as I don't enjoy the pain of high variance. Why is that a problem to anyone else? I don't like Heads Up at all, nor do I like regular STT's, MTT's, or anything else to be honest. But I won't come on here & insult those who do, or suggest their preferred formats make no sense. If that's what they enjoy, good luck to them. Just because we don't like something does not mean it's bad or we should come on here & insult those who do. Relax guys, we are all here to have fun, we are amateur or recreational poker players. Or most of us are. Whatever you play, enjoy, & good luck to you. Posted by Tikay10
Dont understand this post at all. Dont see were anyone has asked someone to justify what games they play or were has anyone stated that there preferred formats made no sense?
I'm really sad to see so much vitriol directed at those who choose to play DYM's. Posted by Tikay10
There isn't any vitriol, merely people asking and discussing the nature (and reasons for playing) of these, so this post is confusing? What did you mean?
I do find DYMs to have negative features however, as obviously some others see too (the game not the players please note!). We've already been over these though so no need to 'rake' over those again
But, I would hope its acceptable to discuss playing formats on here and reasons for choices either way. Like I say, I still do play these sometimes, but only when there's nothing else around, so I'm happy to be convinced of their merits if there are good reasons.
In Response to Re: Why are DYMs so popular compared to other sngs? : There isn't any vitriol, merely people asking and discussing the nature (and reasons for playing) of these, so this post is confusing? What did you mean? I do find DYMs to have negative features however, as obviously some others see too (the game not the players please note!). We've already been over these though so no need to 'rake' over those again But, I would hope its acceptable to discuss playing formats on here and reasons for choices either way. Like I say, I still do play these sometimes, but only when there's nothing else around, so I'm happy to be convinced of their merits if there are good reasons. Stu. Posted by swanstu
"luckbox rounds", & "one step up from RR's" is warm & complimentary?
I'd also suggest that the late stages of Turbo MTT's are "pretty fast" but I don't think I'd suggest those who do well in them are luckboxes. (Except Mattbates, obv).
I've never played - that I can recall - standard STT's. Do you never get games in those where the shortie keeps surviving, & it ends up with blinds very large relative to stacks?
Either way, if you enjoy them, good luck to you. Genuinely.
As for me, the answer to the thread title is quite simple - I like to enjoy my poker, have some craic & banter with the other players, & maybe make a small profit along the way. In short, I play them as I think the key factor is enjoying my poker. And I do.
I played them every single night until I fell ill earlier this year, & I miss them - & the players - immensely.
I hope you enjoy your poker as much as I do. We all like different things though, & that's just fine.
In Response to Re: Why are DYMs so popular compared to other sngs? : "luckbox rounds", & "one step up from RR's" is warm & complimentary? I'd also suggest that the late stages of Turbo MTT's are "pretty fast" but I don't think I'd suggest those who do well in them are luckboxes. (Except Mattbates, obv). I've never played - that I can recall - standard STT's. Do you never get games in those where the shortie keeps surviving, & it ends up with blinds very large relative to stacks? Either way, if you enjoy them, good luck to you. Genuinely. As for me, the answer to the thread title is quite simple - I like to enjoy my poker, have some craic & banter with the other players, & maybe make a small profit along the way. In short, I play them as I think the key factor is enjoying my poker. And I do. I played them every single night until I fell ill earlier this year, & I miss them - & the players - immensely. I hope you enjoy your poker as much as I do. We all like different things though, & that's just fine. Tony. Posted by Tikay10
Fair enough - but there was not any vitriol against players/posters, rather the game itself. That should be clear enough reading back over this discussion.
Ironically I posted exactly because they are more popular than the other STTs, so I know people chose these games, but wanted to know why, and whether it's a good choice. I can see some views supporting them and some against, so I think that it's a good discussion.
In Response to Re: Why are DYMs so popular compared to other sngs? : Fair enough - but there was not any vitriol against players/posters, rather the game itself. That should be clear enough reading back over this discussion. Ironically I posted exactly because they are more popular than the other STTs, so I know people chose these games, but wanted to know why, and whether it's a good choice. I can see some views supporting them and some against, so I think that it's a good discussion. All the best, Stu. Posted by swanstu
Well by implication, that's the same thing.
Anyway, as you probably know, I try not to fall out with folks, so let's move on.
All the very best to you too Stu.
You coming to SPT Manchester? If so, I'll buy you a drink.
In Response to Re: Why are DYMs so popular compared to other sngs? : I wouldn't question you about online mtts. You know more than me about them. Your ignorance about dyms makes this conversation pointless Gl at the tables Posted by Jac35
In Response to Re: Why are DYMs so popular compared to other sngs? : I have no idea who's correct here, but a 15k sample is not long-term in the proper definition of the term relating to sample sizes. I know playing 15000 games of DYMs may feel long term for you as a human, but it's certainly not considered a long-term sample - I suppose this the problem of using such terms as long-term, more appropriate would be "large sample" where large is clearly defined. Posted by percival09
3 to 5% long term is pretty standard surprised you didnt know that considering youve played so many games? How many regs do you know with an roi higher than that? Did you not get how i mentioned longterm aswell? So youve won an extra 2% over 15k games whoop de doo. I also seen that you edited your last post stating that i didnt know what i was talking about. I know a lot more about it than you seem to do thats for sure . Hope to see you on the tables soon good luck. Posted by bearlyther
2% increase in roi over that kind of sample is fairly significant.
Assuming £10 stakes, it's the difference between roughly £8k and £11k profit. So 7% roi player has around a 40% higher return in profit.
I would tend to agree though that roi's for winning dym players does trend around the 3-5% mark but certainly not the rule.
In Response to Re: Why are DYMs so popular compared to other sngs? : Well by implication, that's the same thing. Anyway, as you probably know, I try not to fall out with folks, so let's move on. All the very best to you too Stu. You coming to SPT Manchester? If so, I'll buy you a drink. Posted by Tikay10
Thanks Tikay, sadly I'm not a live player so won't be there, but appreciated.
Not my intention to fall out with anyone either (hope that's clear enough in my postings) but I do feel these are valuable discussions for this Poker forum and it's players.
Interestingly, I still haven't yet heard a very strong reason (IMHO) for why they are so much more popular than all of the other STTs available.
The speed issue is interesting, as if that was purely the main issue then couldn't the 6-maxes be speeded up in comparison? I was wondering why there were no 'turboed' STTs for the normal 6-maxes?
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I'm really sad to see so much vitriol directed at those who choose to play DYM's. (Which I should add, for balance, includes me).
We enjoy playing DYM's for a whole bunch of reasons, but I don't feel inclined to have to justify what format I play. I would just add that personally I enjoy the low variance, as I don't enjoy the pain of high variance. Why is that a problem to anyone else?
Can't make money at DYM's? Do me a favour. I did a bankroll challenge which was well documented on this Forum, & multiplied my £200 starting 'roll by 20, & have not deposited a penny for 4 years. And - don't tell a soul, it's a secret - I enjoy them, & I'm not in the least ashamed to say so.
I don't like Heads Up at all, nor do I like regular STT's, MTT's, or anything else to be honest. But I won't come on here & insult those who do, or suggest their preferred formats make no sense. If that's what they enjoy, good luck to them.
Just because we don't like something does not mean it's bad or we should come on here & insult those who do.
Relax guys, we are all here to have fun, we are amateur or recreational poker players. Or most of us are.
Whatever you play, enjoy, & good luck to you.
I'd also suggest that the late stages of Turbo MTT's are "pretty fast" but I don't think I'd suggest those who do well in them are luckboxes. (Except Mattbates, obv).
I've never played - that I can recall - standard STT's. Do you never get games in those where the shortie keeps surviving, & it ends up with blinds very large relative to stacks?
Either way, if you enjoy them, good luck to you. Genuinely.
As for me, the answer to the thread title is quite simple - I like to enjoy my poker, have some craic & banter with the other players, & maybe make a small profit along the way. In short, I play them as I think the key factor is enjoying my poker. And I do.
I played them every single night until I fell ill earlier this year, & I miss them - & the players - immensely.
I hope you enjoy your poker as much as I do. We all like different things though, & that's just fine.
Tony.
Anyway, as you probably know, I try not to fall out with folks, so let's move on.
All the very best to you too Stu.
You coming to SPT Manchester? If so, I'll buy you a drink.
I somehow managed to quote a non-existent post.
Neat work that.
All going well, wedding is in 3 weeks in Jamaica