Interestingly, I still haven't yet heard a very strong reason (IMHO) for why they are so much more popular than all of the other STTs available. The speed issue is interesting, as if that was purely the main issue then couldn't the 6-maxes be speeded up in comparison? I was wondering why there were no 'turboed' STTs for the normal 6-maxes? Posted by swanstu
There are 'speed' 6 max sng's, but they are completely hidden/lost in the lobby. They used to be with the normal games under the regular tab, but for some strange reason they are no longer.
There are also 6 max hypers in the lobby, with only 5% rake.
In Response to Re: Why are DYMs so popular compared to other sngs? : There are 'speed' 6 max sng's, but they are completely hidden/lost in the lobby. They used to be with the normal games under the regular tab, but for some strange reason they are no longer. There are also 6 max hypers in the lobby, with only 5% rake. Posted by goldnballz
LOL, thanks golden, I hadn't even noticed them!
I always use the 'regular' games tab and they're not shown there, they only show if you list 'all games' which seems crazy. Do these seats fill up given that?
Interestingly, I still haven't yet heard a very strong reason (IMHO) for why they are so much more popular than all of the other STTs available. The speed issue is interesting, as if that was purely the main issue then couldn't the 6-maxes be speeded up in comparison? I was wondering why there were no 'turboed' STTs for the normal 6-maxes? Posted by swanstu
Why is that interesting? You don't need a reason - you don't like them, other people do - it's not up to anyone to convince you. It's a different format of the game and that's it. Probably more interesting to consider why so many people like playing card games versus the myriad other things they could be doing with their evenings and weekends.
You can find edges (if that's important to you) in these games because a lot of players don't understand them either over-playing early or thinking because blinds are large towards the end it's just a game of luck. You don't have to win the game to maximise your return, so it also means you can play more tables at once without compromising as much as you might with STTs - this is good for those who like to accumulate points for rakeback.
What do you mean in the OP that it's possible to be up against more than one set of players - not sure I get that?
In Response to Re: Why are DYMs so popular compared to other sngs? : Why is that interesting? You don't need a reason - you don't like them, other people do - it's not up to anyone to convince you. Posted by bbMike
I find it interesting, up to you if you don't. I didn't necessarily ask anyone to convince me they were a great format, but wondered why so many select it over others. All the other formats have good features/edges. Personally I think more.
You were insinuating that there are no valid reasons for the popularity, but they are popular so something must be hitting the right note. You've been offered a few reasons why a player may prefer to play a DYM, you may not agree with these and that's fine.
However you're now talking about 'groups' of players. If this is as I read it to be, then collusion is relatively easy to spot in these formats and players have been reported and action taken in the past. Maybe this isn't what you meant.
Of course, if the lobbies of one format are filling faster than another, that also acts as an attraction for someone looking for a quick SnG.
Yeh, I can see in some respects it's a self-fulfilling cycle and that's part of the explanation I'm sure. More people in seats leading to more of these games.
In terms of the collusion issue, I know it's often dealt with well here, however it's just something I'd prefer not to have to consider in my own games.
In Response to Re: Why are DYMs so popular compared to other sngs? : Why is that interesting? You don't need a reason - you don't like them, other people do - it's not up to anyone to convince you. It's a different format of the game and that's it. Probably more interesting to consider why so many people like playing card games versus the myriad other things they could be doing with their evenings and weekends. You can find edges (if that's important to you) in these games because a lot of players don't understand them either over-playing early or thinking because blinds are large towards the end it's just a game of luck. You don't have to win the game to maximise your return, so it also means you can play more tables at once without compromising as much as you might with STTs - this is good for those who like to accumulate points for rakeback. What do you mean in the OP that it's possible to be up against more than one set of players - not sure I get that? Posted by bbMike
In Response to Re: Why are DYMs so popular compared to other sngs? : Why is that interesting? You don't need a reason - you don't like them, other people do - it's not up to anyone to convince you. It's a different format of the game and that's it. Probably more interesting to consider why so many people like playing card games versus the myriad other things they could be doing with their evenings and weekends. You can find edges (if that's important to you) in these games because a lot of players don't understand them either over-playing early or thinking because blinds are large towards the end it's just a game of luck. You don't have to win the game to maximise your return, so it also means you can play more tables at once without compromising as much as you might with STTs - this is good for those who like to accumulate points for rakeback. What do you mean in the OP that it's possible to be up against more than one set of players - not sure I get that? Posted by bbMike
The reason was answered in the first three words of the first reply on the thread......"much lower varaiance"
Further to that it is an easier format to learn from a technique point of view, I believe, because "just survive" is easier to learn than "must win" even though there are many subtle nuances to the format many fail to pick up/adjust to.
Does no-one else on this thread remember playing numerous DYMs when it becomes the invitable 'pass the random parcel' of huge (mandatory) blinds, and end up shoved out due to these rounds? I'm amazed players don't prefer using their skill to try to win bigger prizes in other STTs personally rather than (nearly) doubling a stake in a randomish 3rd place bubble match. But as said before it's each to their own, and there are obviously many who love these games and wish to defend their honour here instead. Fair enough.
Does no-one else on this thread remember playing numerous DYMs when it becomes the invitable 'pass the random parcel' of huge (mandatory) blinds, and end up shoved out due to these rounds? I'm amazed players don't prefer using their skill to try to win bigger prizes in other STTs personally rather than (nearly) doubling a stake in a randomish 3rd place bubble match. But as said before it's each to their own, and there are obviously many who love these games and wish to defend their honour here instead. Fair enough. Posted by swanstu
Just give it a rest.
I don't even play DYMs (or hardly ever) but I can see and understand why people do, and it's not hard to grasp why either. Unless you're a bit stupid, of course.
In Response to Re: Why are DYMs so popular compared to other sngs? : Just give it a rest. I don't even play DYMs (or hardly ever) but I can see and understand why people do, and it's not hard to grasp why either. Unless you're a bit stupid, of course. Posted by hhyftrftdr
Sorry, but I have not used insulting terms against any posters here, but you have. Tikay earlier mentioned not liking 'vitriol' in postings, so I suggest he reads yours above.
Funnily, the other main posters who said they didn't like DYMs also recieved personal comments (like above).
I don't need to be told to 'give it a rest' - for a start that is my choice not yours, and secondly I already did if you read my last comment 'fair enough' - try reading before posting.
In Response to Re: Why are DYMs so popular compared to other sngs? : Sorry, but I have not used insulting terms against any posters here, but you have. Tikay earlier mentioned not liking 'vitriol' in postings, so I suggest he reads yours above. Funnily, the other main posters who said they didn't like DYMs also recieved personal comments (like above). Posted by swanstu
Stt's and mtt's can both also reach the same stage of incredibly big blinds and there is also skill required at that stage of knowing what to call and shove (and when not to). Furthmore it can be exciting at that stage when you dont know if the next hand will be your last or someone else's.
In Response to Re: Why are DYMs so popular compared to other sngs? : I find it interesting, up to you if you don't. I didn't necessarily ask anyone to convince me they were a great format, but wondered why so many select it over others. All the other formats have good features/edges. Personally I think more. Posted by swanstu
You were doing so well until that last sentence.....
In Response to Re: Why are DYMs so popular compared to other sngs? : You were doing so well until that last sentence..... Posted by Tikay10
Tikay, I'd like you to comment on the personal comments addressed to myself and some others earlier who said they didn't like DYMs on this thread (bearlythere I think was also personally insulted if you look back).
You said you didn't like that approach in postings a little while back, so I would appreciate some comment...
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