The decision to remove the "European Union" label was made in the expectation that the UK would be leaving the EU at the end of last month, as scheduled.
A Home Office spokeswoman said that "in order to use leftover stock and achieve best value to the taxpayer", passports that include the words "European Union" will continue to be issued for "a short period".
She said: "There will be no difference for British citizens whether they are using a passport that includes the words European Union, or a passport that does not. Both designs will be equally valid for travel."
The decision to remove the "European Union" label was made in the expectation that the UK would be leaving the EU at the end of last month, as scheduled.
A Home Office spokeswoman said that "in order to use leftover stock and achieve best value to the taxpayer", passports that include the words "European Union" will continue to be issued for "a short period".
She said: "There will be no difference for British citizens whether they are using a passport that includes the words European Union, or a passport that does not. Both designs will be equally valid for travel."
They have just started melting down the 50p pieces.
You are a genius no extension will probably mean a no deal Brexit. Ignore the evidence. Why do they wash them in chlorine?
Why are they banned by the EU?
"PROBABLY " ...that's PROBABLY , your favourite word . And as far as a no deal option ..good , sooner the better . You and remainers like you are culpable for generating the majority of the ill will in this country , by spreading the scaremongering bs. Why do they wash them in chlorine ? To help manage pathogens like salmonella and campylobacter. Incidentally in 2017 America were the 4th highest exporters of chicken , worth $591.7 million. But guess what post Brexit , if we generally don't like the way the US prepare their chicken , Noone is going to force us to buy them ...I know shocking lightbulb moment eh ?
If there is no extension we leave next week. You must think that we can get the WA passed by then? He is jeopardising the path that has been chosen by the Government, and the arrangements that have been voted in favour of by a majority of Parliament. That's democracy for you. That's not really many chickens, and none of them come into Europe.
In the US, instead of preventing infection in chickens across all stages of rearing and slaughter, the American poultry industry has resorted to acid washes to eliminate bacteria at the end of the meat production chain. Essentially, chemical washes hope to make up for inadequate hygiene on farms and abattoirs. In contrast, the European Union (EU) has chosen another approach to fighting meat-borne bacteria through the landmark ‘farm to fork’ approach. This approach requires steps all along the production chain to ensure food sold to consumers is safe.
If you think there will be choices for us in any US trade deal, you are deluded.
So you are in favour of food produced to lower standards, hormone injected beef, gm crops, and chlorine washed chicken, that has been banned by the EU?
You are a genius no extension will probably mean a no deal Brexit. Ignore the evidence. Why do they wash them in chlorine?
Why are they banned by the EU?
"PROBABLY " ...that's PROBABLY , your favourite word . And as far as a no deal option ..good , sooner the better . You and remainers like you are culpable for generating the majority of the ill will in this country , by spreading the scaremongering bs. Why do they wash them in chlorine ? To help manage pathogens like salmonella and campylobacter. Incidentally in 2017 America were the 4th highest exporters of chicken , worth $591.7 million. But guess what post Brexit , if we generally don't like the way the US prepare their chicken , Noone is going to force us to buy them ...I know shocking lightbulb moment eh ?
If there is no extension we leave next week. You must think that we can get the WA passed by then? He is jeopardising the path that has been chosen by the Government, and the arrangements that have been voted in favour of by a majority of Parliament. That's democracy for you. That's not really many chickens, and none of them come into Europe.
In the US, instead of preventing infection in chickens across all stages of rearing and slaughter, the American poultry industry has resorted to acid washes to eliminate bacteria at the end of the meat production chain. Essentially, chemical washes hope to make up for inadequate hygiene on farms and abattoirs. In contrast, the European Union (EU) has chosen another approach to fighting meat-borne bacteria through the landmark ‘farm to fork’ approach. This approach requires steps all along the production chain to ensure food sold to consumers is safe.
If you think there will be choices for us in any US trade deal, you are deluded.
So you are in favour of food produced to lower standards, hormone injected beef, gm crops, and chlorine washed chicken, that has been banned by the EU?
Oh you think we will be forced to buy chicken from them do you ? ...this thread gets funnier by the minute .
Top 10 US poultry markets and their import restrictions These 10 countries together took 66 percent of the United States' total poultry exports of $5.5 billion in 2014.
1. MEXICO ($1.2 billion in U.S. imports in 2014) Mostly imports poultry meat and eggs, as well as fertilized eggs for hatching. Currently banning imports of fresh and frozen poultry and poultry products from birds originating from, slaughtered or processed in 10 affected states, including all eight states where outbreaks have occurred in commercial flocks. Exceptions for raw poultry shipped for thermal processing or heat treatment in Mexico. The country expanded the ban last week to live birds and eggs from Iowa.
2. CANADA ($589 million) Banning imports of raw poultry and products from or near affected counties in seven states and all counties in six other states. Also barring imports of certain processed products.
3. HONG KONG ($521 million) Banning imports of poultry meat and poultry meat products from birds raised, processed, slaughtered or shipped from affected counties in 13 affected states on or after specific dates. Fully cooked or heat treated products exempt.
4. CHINA ($315 million) All U.S. poultry and products banned since January 2015.
5. ANGOLA ($264 million) All U.S. poultry and products banned since January 2015. 6. RUSSIA ($150 million) All U.S. poultry and products banned since August 2014 as part of response to sanctions from the United State sand Europe over Russia's annexation of Crimea.
7. CUBA ($148 million) Banning imports of poultry and poultry products from birds raised, processed, slaughtered or stored in 13 states with HPAI on or after specific dates as well as New Jersey where a strain of low pathogenic avian influenza (LPAI) was discovered.
8. TAIWAN ($143 million) Banning imports of poultry meat and products from 13 states affected with HPAI and one with LPAI shipped on or after specific dates.
9. SOUTH KOREA ($113 million) All non-heat-treated U.S. poultry and products from birds slaughtered and processed on or after Nov. 25, 2014, are banned. The restrictions include shipments to U.S. military in South Korea.
10. GUATEMALA ($104 million) Banning imports of poultry and poultry products from birds originating from or slaughtered in affected counties in 13 affected states on or after specific dates.
You are a genius no extension will probably mean a no deal Brexit. Ignore the evidence. Why do they wash them in chlorine?
Why are they banned by the EU?
"PROBABLY " ...that's PROBABLY , your favourite word . And as far as a no deal option ..good , sooner the better . You and remainers like you are culpable for generating the majority of the ill will in this country , by spreading the scaremongering bs. Why do they wash them in chlorine ? To help manage pathogens like salmonella and campylobacter. Incidentally in 2017 America were the 4th highest exporters of chicken , worth $591.7 million. But guess what post Brexit , if we generally don't like the way the US prepare their chicken , Noone is going to force us to buy them ...I know shocking lightbulb moment eh ?
If there is no extension we leave next week. You must think that we can get the WA passed by then? He is jeopardising the path that has been chosen by the Government, and the arrangements that have been voted in favour of by a majority of Parliament. That's democracy for you. That's not really many chickens, and none of them come into Europe.
In the US, instead of preventing infection in chickens across all stages of rearing and slaughter, the American poultry industry has resorted to acid washes to eliminate bacteria at the end of the meat production chain. Essentially, chemical washes hope to make up for inadequate hygiene on farms and abattoirs. In contrast, the European Union (EU) has chosen another approach to fighting meat-borne bacteria through the landmark ‘farm to fork’ approach. This approach requires steps all along the production chain to ensure food sold to consumers is safe.
If you think there will be choices for us in any US trade deal, you are deluded.
So you are in favour of food produced to lower standards, hormone injected beef, gm crops, and chlorine washed chicken, that has been banned by the EU?
Oh you think we will be forced to buy chicken from them do you ? ...this thread gets funnier by the minute .
You are a genius no extension will probably mean a no deal Brexit. Ignore the evidence. Why do they wash them in chlorine?
Why are they banned by the EU?
"PROBABLY " ...that's PROBABLY , your favourite word . And as far as a no deal option ..good , sooner the better . You and remainers like you are culpable for generating the majority of the ill will in this country , by spreading the scaremongering bs. Why do they wash them in chlorine ? To help manage pathogens like salmonella and campylobacter. Incidentally in 2017 America were the 4th highest exporters of chicken , worth $591.7 million. But guess what post Brexit , if we generally don't like the way the US prepare their chicken , Noone is going to force us to buy them ...I know shocking lightbulb moment eh ?
If there is no extension we leave next week. You must think that we can get the WA passed by then? He is jeopardising the path that has been chosen by the Government, and the arrangements that have been voted in favour of by a majority of Parliament. That's democracy for you. That's not really many chickens, and none of them come into Europe.
In the US, instead of preventing infection in chickens across all stages of rearing and slaughter, the American poultry industry has resorted to acid washes to eliminate bacteria at the end of the meat production chain. Essentially, chemical washes hope to make up for inadequate hygiene on farms and abattoirs. In contrast, the European Union (EU) has chosen another approach to fighting meat-borne bacteria through the landmark ‘farm to fork’ approach. This approach requires steps all along the production chain to ensure food sold to consumers is safe.
If you think there will be choices for us in any US trade deal, you are deluded.
So you are in favour of food produced to lower standards, hormone injected beef, gm crops, and chlorine washed chicken, that has been banned by the EU?
Oh you think we will be forced to buy chicken from them do you ? ...this thread gets funnier by the minute .
You are a genius no extension will probably mean a no deal Brexit. Ignore the evidence. Why do they wash them in chlorine?
Why are they banned by the EU?
"PROBABLY " ...that's PROBABLY , your favourite word . And as far as a no deal option ..good , sooner the better . You and remainers like you are culpable for generating the majority of the ill will in this country , by spreading the scaremongering bs. Why do they wash them in chlorine ? To help manage pathogens like salmonella and campylobacter. Incidentally in 2017 America were the 4th highest exporters of chicken , worth $591.7 million. But guess what post Brexit , if we generally don't like the way the US prepare their chicken , Noone is going to force us to buy them ...I know shocking lightbulb moment eh ?
If there is no extension we leave next week. You must think that we can get the WA passed by then? He is jeopardising the path that has been chosen by the Government, and the arrangements that have been voted in favour of by a majority of Parliament. That's democracy for you. That's not really many chickens, and none of them come into Europe.
In the US, instead of preventing infection in chickens across all stages of rearing and slaughter, the American poultry industry has resorted to acid washes to eliminate bacteria at the end of the meat production chain. Essentially, chemical washes hope to make up for inadequate hygiene on farms and abattoirs. In contrast, the European Union (EU) has chosen another approach to fighting meat-borne bacteria through the landmark ‘farm to fork’ approach. This approach requires steps all along the production chain to ensure food sold to consumers is safe.
If you think there will be choices for us in any US trade deal, you are deluded.
So you are in favour of food produced to lower standards, hormone injected beef, gm crops, and chlorine washed chicken, that has been banned by the EU?
Oh you think we will be forced to buy chicken from them do you ? ...this thread gets funnier by the minute .
You are a genius no extension will probably mean a no deal Brexit. Ignore the evidence. Why do they wash them in chlorine?
Why are they banned by the EU?
"PROBABLY " ...that's PROBABLY , your favourite word . And as far as a no deal option ..good , sooner the better . You and remainers like you are culpable for generating the majority of the ill will in this country , by spreading the scaremongering bs. Why do they wash them in chlorine ? To help manage pathogens like salmonella and campylobacter. Incidentally in 2017 America were the 4th highest exporters of chicken , worth $591.7 million. But guess what post Brexit , if we generally don't like the way the US prepare their chicken , Noone is going to force us to buy them ...I know shocking lightbulb moment eh ?
If there is no extension we leave next week. You must think that we can get the WA passed by then? He is jeopardising the path that has been chosen by the Government, and the arrangements that have been voted in favour of by a majority of Parliament. That's democracy for you. That's not really many chickens, and none of them come into Europe.
In the US, instead of preventing infection in chickens across all stages of rearing and slaughter, the American poultry industry has resorted to acid washes to eliminate bacteria at the end of the meat production chain. Essentially, chemical washes hope to make up for inadequate hygiene on farms and abattoirs. In contrast, the European Union (EU) has chosen another approach to fighting meat-borne bacteria through the landmark ‘farm to fork’ approach. This approach requires steps all along the production chain to ensure food sold to consumers is safe.
If you think there will be choices for us in any US trade deal, you are deluded.
So you are in favour of food produced to lower standards, hormone injected beef, gm crops, and chlorine washed chicken, that has been banned by the EU?
Oh you think we will be forced to buy chicken from them do you ? ...this thread gets funnier by the minute .
Please tell us all , is this what you think ?
Trump will be changing to a Britain First policy.
Particularly on chickens because they are struggling to flog them elsewhere.
UK will be forced to accept US food standards in a Brexit trade deal with Trump, warns former trade chief
The UK would have to bend to US demands in any post-Brexit trade deal, the former boss of Liam Fox's international trade department has warned in an interview with Business Insider.
Agricultural goods will form a major part of any UK-US deal.
US trade rules allow products such as chlorinated chicken and hormone-injected beef, which are banned in the UK and EU.
Sir Martin Donnelly told BI: "We're about a fifth of the size of the US. So we're not in so strong a position to insist on maintaining our own standards."
Trade secretary Liam Fox has said a free trade agreement with the United States is one of his department's "top priorities" when the UK leaves the EU.
LONDON — The UK will be forced to accept US demands for the UK to change its food safety standards if it enters into a post-Brexit trade deal with the Trump administration, the former head of the UK's International Trade Department has told Business Insider. Sir Martin Donnelly, who was the Permanent Secretary of the Department for International Trade until 2017, said that any trade deal would be heavily weighted in the US' favour once Britain has left the EU. "If Britain wants a trade deal with the United States, it's going to be largely on United States terms, and it's not clear what we would get in return," Donnelly told BI.
He said that Washington would likely demand that the UK accepts US environmental and health standards. These include allowing chlorine-washed chicken and hormone-treated beef — as well as a raft of other punitive measures. "All American administrations have been clear on the importance of agricultural exports," Donnelly said. "The UK's position on environmental health issues and animal health is essentially that of the EU. So it's hard to see how you come to a quick trade deal with the Americans which delivers for the UK as opposed to just delivering for Washington." The former civil servant told BI that the smaller size of the UK to the EU would weaken its relative bargaining power.
The document states that the UK must "remove expeditiously unwarranted barriers that block the export of U.S. food and agricultural products. It adds that "unjustified trade restrictions," such as the ban on the sale of chlorinated chicken and hormone-injected beef in the UK, must be removed in order to "eliminate practices that unfairly decrease U.S. market access opportunities." BI highlighted last year that under US food regulation, producers are allowed certain amounts of foreign bodies such as maggots, rat-hair and mould in a range of food products sold to consumers.
In the US, producers adhere to a "Defect Levels Handbook," which sets out the maximum number of foreign bodies like maggots, insect fragments and mould that can be in food products before they are put on the market. For example, US producers are allowed to include up to 30 insect fragments in a 100-gram jar of peanut butter; as well as 11 rodent hairs in a 25-gram container of paprika; or 3 milligrams of mammalian excreta (typically rat or mouse excrement) per each pound of ginger.
You are a genius no extension will probably mean a no deal Brexit. Ignore the evidence. Why do they wash them in chlorine?
Why are they banned by the EU?
"PROBABLY " ...that's PROBABLY , your favourite word . And as far as a no deal option ..good , sooner the better . You and remainers like you are culpable for generating the majority of the ill will in this country , by spreading the scaremongering bs. Why do they wash them in chlorine ? To help manage pathogens like salmonella and campylobacter. Incidentally in 2017 America were the 4th highest exporters of chicken , worth $591.7 million. But guess what post Brexit , if we generally don't like the way the US prepare their chicken , Noone is going to force us to buy them ...I know shocking lightbulb moment eh ?
If there is no extension we leave next week. You must think that we can get the WA passed by then? He is jeopardising the path that has been chosen by the Government, and the arrangements that have been voted in favour of by a majority of Parliament. That's democracy for you. That's not really many chickens, and none of them come into Europe.
In the US, instead of preventing infection in chickens across all stages of rearing and slaughter, the American poultry industry has resorted to acid washes to eliminate bacteria at the end of the meat production chain. Essentially, chemical washes hope to make up for inadequate hygiene on farms and abattoirs. In contrast, the European Union (EU) has chosen another approach to fighting meat-borne bacteria through the landmark ‘farm to fork’ approach. This approach requires steps all along the production chain to ensure food sold to consumers is safe.
If you think there will be choices for us in any US trade deal, you are deluded.
So you are in favour of food produced to lower standards, hormone injected beef, gm crops, and chlorine washed chicken, that has been banned by the EU?
Oh you think we will be forced to buy chicken from them do you ? ...this thread gets funnier by the minute .
Please tell us all , is this what you think ?
Try reading something before posting your uninformed bs.
You are a genius no extension will probably mean a no deal Brexit. Ignore the evidence. Why do they wash them in chlorine?
Why are they banned by the EU?
"PROBABLY " ...that's PROBABLY , your favourite word . And as far as a no deal option ..good , sooner the better . You and remainers like you are culpable for generating the majority of the ill will in this country , by spreading the scaremongering bs. Why do they wash them in chlorine ? To help manage pathogens like salmonella and campylobacter. Incidentally in 2017 America were the 4th highest exporters of chicken , worth $591.7 million. But guess what post Brexit , if we generally don't like the way the US prepare their chicken , Noone is going to force us to buy them ...I know shocking lightbulb moment eh ?
If there is no extension we leave next week. You must think that we can get the WA passed by then? He is jeopardising the path that has been chosen by the Government, and the arrangements that have been voted in favour of by a majority of Parliament. That's democracy for you. That's not really many chickens, and none of them come into Europe.
In the US, instead of preventing infection in chickens across all stages of rearing and slaughter, the American poultry industry has resorted to acid washes to eliminate bacteria at the end of the meat production chain. Essentially, chemical washes hope to make up for inadequate hygiene on farms and abattoirs. In contrast, the European Union (EU) has chosen another approach to fighting meat-borne bacteria through the landmark ‘farm to fork’ approach. This approach requires steps all along the production chain to ensure food sold to consumers is safe.
If you think there will be choices for us in any US trade deal, you are deluded.
So you are in favour of food produced to lower standards, hormone injected beef, gm crops, and chlorine washed chicken, that has been banned by the EU?
Oh you think we will be forced to buy chicken from them do you ? ...this thread gets funnier by the minute .
Please tell us all , is this what you think ?
Try reading something before posting your uninformed bs.
Try quoting something for a change which is fact ...not maybe's , and coulds.
"He said that Washington would likely demand that the UK accepts US environmental and health standards. These include allowing chlorine-washed chicken and hormone-treated beef — as well as a raft of other punitive measures."
They can demand what they like , doesn't mean that's what's going to happen .
Brexit has exposed the flaws in the UK’s electoral system – as an immigrant I should be given the vote For many migrants like myself, there’s a contradiction between our status as residents and workers, and our ability to enact political change and be truly represented here
The last decade of politics has been shot through with examples of the shortcomings in Britain’s democratic process. In 2010, the hung parliament which resulted in the Tory-Lib Dem coalition led to the poorly planned and ultimately unsuccessful referendum on the Alternative Vote system, which would have finally meant a real if limited break from First Past The Post.
In 2014, the Scottish referendum on independence set a six-month residency requirement to be allowed to vote, regardless of nationality, which disenfranchised thousands of Scots elsewhere in the UK and abroad for whom the result would have had a real impact.
In 2016, the EU referendum followed a seemingly arbitrary set of franchise rules. Neither residency or nationality but Commonwealth status was the defining factor, meaning that while approximately 3 million EU migrants were denied a voice (unless they happened to be from Malta, Ireland or Cyprus), Australians and Canadians who were resident here could vote on the Brexit question.
The only change from the rules that apply to General Elections was that the franchise was extended to members of the House of Lords and Gibraltarians. The regulations even prevented a Member of the Scottish Parliament, French national Christian Allard, from being able to vote.
If the series of hung parliaments and political turmoil of the last decade are an indictment of the inadequacies of the voting system, the Brexit vote has been a catalyst for conversations about representation, and what the electorate is and should be.
For many migrants like myself, there’s a contradiction between our status as residents and workers in the places we’ve chosen to live on the one hand, and our ability to enact political change and be truly represented here on the other. Britain is our home. We have started families here, and we are affected just as much as anyone else by funding cuts to children’s centres and booming school class sizes. We work here, and despite what might be written in the press about us driving down wages, we join trade unions and organise our workplaces, fighting for better pay and working conditions for everyone in the workforce.
Why the Independent Group won’t succeed without electoral reform Like everyone else we experience the housing crisis, austerity, political problems with political solutions. We pay our taxes here, our money goes into public services – roads, libraries, parks and the NHS – and our lives are affected by their funding and quality. Many of us participate in the political process in whatever way we can, becoming members of political parties (including holding elected positions within those parties), and campaigning in elections. Despite this, when the time comes to make big political decisions which impact on us as much as they do any other resident, we are denied a vote. Instead, migrants are treated in a far more sinister way: as a silent monolith, referred to but seldom heard, used as a scapegoat and a target. We are one of the few sections of society that can be demonised without the political establishment taking a direct hit at the ballot box.
In the long arc of history, the demands of progressive movements have always been for more democracy, not less. The demands of the Let Us Vote campaign, a campaign which launches today with the support of of Another Europe Is Possible, the3million, and the British in Europe, are simple. We are demanding that the franchise be extended to everyone resident in the UK, regardless of their nationality or citizenship, and to allow every British person abroad to participate in the electoral process at home, should they choose to.
We are tired of being spoken about in parliament without ever being heard within it. For as long as migrants like me cannot vote, we will always be reliant on the good will of a political class who are fundamentally unaccountable to us. If the last few years tell us anything, it’s that good will is simply not enough. It is time for the UK electorate to expand to cover the people affected by its government’s policies. Let us vote. Alex Fernandes is a Portuguese migrant living in south London. He is a member of the Labour Party and a supporter of Another Europe is Possible.
You are a genius no extension will probably mean a no deal Brexit. Ignore the evidence. Why do they wash them in chlorine?
Why are they banned by the EU?
"PROBABLY " ...that's PROBABLY , your favourite word . And as far as a no deal option ..good , sooner the better . You and remainers like you are culpable for generating the majority of the ill will in this country , by spreading the scaremongering bs. Why do they wash them in chlorine ? To help manage pathogens like salmonella and campylobacter. Incidentally in 2017 America were the 4th highest exporters of chicken , worth $591.7 million. But guess what post Brexit , if we generally don't like the way the US prepare their chicken , Noone is going to force us to buy them ...I know shocking lightbulb moment eh ?
If there is no extension we leave next week. You must think that we can get the WA passed by then? He is jeopardising the path that has been chosen by the Government, and the arrangements that have been voted in favour of by a majority of Parliament. That's democracy for you. That's not really many chickens, and none of them come into Europe.
In the US, instead of preventing infection in chickens across all stages of rearing and slaughter, the American poultry industry has resorted to acid washes to eliminate bacteria at the end of the meat production chain. Essentially, chemical washes hope to make up for inadequate hygiene on farms and abattoirs. In contrast, the European Union (EU) has chosen another approach to fighting meat-borne bacteria through the landmark ‘farm to fork’ approach. This approach requires steps all along the production chain to ensure food sold to consumers is safe.
If you think there will be choices for us in any US trade deal, you are deluded.
So you are in favour of food produced to lower standards, hormone injected beef, gm crops, and chlorine washed chicken, that has been banned by the EU?
Oh you think we will be forced to buy chicken from them do you ? ...this thread gets funnier by the minute .
Please tell us all , is this what you think ?
Try reading something before posting your uninformed bs.
Try quoting something for a change which is fact ...not maybe's , and coulds.
"He said that Washington would likely demand that the UK accepts US environmental and health standards. These include allowing chlorine-washed chicken and hormone-treated beef — as well as a raft of other punitive measures."
They can demand what they like , doesn't mean that's what's going to happen .
You are a genius no extension will probably mean a no deal Brexit. Ignore the evidence. Why do they wash them in chlorine?
Why are they banned by the EU?
"PROBABLY " ...that's PROBABLY , your favourite word . And as far as a no deal option ..good , sooner the better . You and remainers like you are culpable for generating the majority of the ill will in this country , by spreading the scaremongering bs. Why do they wash them in chlorine ? To help manage pathogens like salmonella and campylobacter. Incidentally in 2017 America were the 4th highest exporters of chicken , worth $591.7 million. But guess what post Brexit , if we generally don't like the way the US prepare their chicken , Noone is going to force us to buy them ...I know shocking lightbulb moment eh ?
If there is no extension we leave next week. You must think that we can get the WA passed by then? He is jeopardising the path that has been chosen by the Government, and the arrangements that have been voted in favour of by a majority of Parliament. That's democracy for you. That's not really many chickens, and none of them come into Europe.
In the US, instead of preventing infection in chickens across all stages of rearing and slaughter, the American poultry industry has resorted to acid washes to eliminate bacteria at the end of the meat production chain. Essentially, chemical washes hope to make up for inadequate hygiene on farms and abattoirs. In contrast, the European Union (EU) has chosen another approach to fighting meat-borne bacteria through the landmark ‘farm to fork’ approach. This approach requires steps all along the production chain to ensure food sold to consumers is safe.
If you think there will be choices for us in any US trade deal, you are deluded.
So you are in favour of food produced to lower standards, hormone injected beef, gm crops, and chlorine washed chicken, that has been banned by the EU?
Oh you think we will be forced to buy chicken from them do you ? ...this thread gets funnier by the minute .
Please tell us all , is this what you think ?
Try reading something before posting your uninformed bs.
Try quoting something for a change which is fact ...not maybe's , and coulds.
"He said that Washington would likely demand that the UK accepts US environmental and health standards. These include allowing chlorine-washed chicken and hormone-treated beef — as well as a raft of other punitive measures."
They can demand what they like , doesn't mean that's what's going to happen .
No trade deal then.
If you were a racehorse , you wouldn't just have blinkers on , you would have a hood , cheekpieces , and a tongue strap
You are a genius no extension will probably mean a no deal Brexit. Ignore the evidence. Why do they wash them in chlorine?
Why are they banned by the EU?
"PROBABLY " ...that's PROBABLY , your favourite word . And as far as a no deal option ..good , sooner the better . You and remainers like you are culpable for generating the majority of the ill will in this country , by spreading the scaremongering bs. Why do they wash them in chlorine ? To help manage pathogens like salmonella and campylobacter. Incidentally in 2017 America were the 4th highest exporters of chicken , worth $591.7 million. But guess what post Brexit , if we generally don't like the way the US prepare their chicken , Noone is going to force us to buy them ...I know shocking lightbulb moment eh ?
If there is no extension we leave next week. You must think that we can get the WA passed by then? He is jeopardising the path that has been chosen by the Government, and the arrangements that have been voted in favour of by a majority of Parliament. That's democracy for you. That's not really many chickens, and none of them come into Europe.
In the US, instead of preventing infection in chickens across all stages of rearing and slaughter, the American poultry industry has resorted to acid washes to eliminate bacteria at the end of the meat production chain. Essentially, chemical washes hope to make up for inadequate hygiene on farms and abattoirs. In contrast, the European Union (EU) has chosen another approach to fighting meat-borne bacteria through the landmark ‘farm to fork’ approach. This approach requires steps all along the production chain to ensure food sold to consumers is safe.
If you think there will be choices for us in any US trade deal, you are deluded.
So you are in favour of food produced to lower standards, hormone injected beef, gm crops, and chlorine washed chicken, that has been banned by the EU?
Oh you think we will be forced to buy chicken from them do you ? ...this thread gets funnier by the minute .
Please tell us all , is this what you think ?
Try reading something before posting your uninformed bs.
Try quoting something for a change which is fact ...not maybe's , and coulds.
"He said that Washington would likely demand that the UK accepts US environmental and health standards. These include allowing chlorine-washed chicken and hormone-treated beef — as well as a raft of other punitive measures."
They can demand what they like , doesn't mean that's what's going to happen .
UK – US trade deal - The Independent | News www.independent.co. uk › News › UK › UK Politics News > UK > UK Politics Theresa May suggests UK health services could be part of US trade deal. PM insists Government remains 'committed to an NHS that is free at the point of use'
May refuses to rule out NHS inclusion in US-UK trade deal ... www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5362935/PM... Downing Street insisted today the NHS would be protected in any US-UK trade deal hours after the Prime Minister earlier refused to say it would be. Theresa May's official spokesman quoted the PM's ...
US-UK trade deal will let corporations 'run riot' with NHS ... www.thenational.scot/news/17469818.us-uk-trade... Donald Trump's administration has published negotiating objectives for a deal which include demands for the UK to provide full market access for US drug firms and ensure that state institutions – such as the NHS – do not discriminate against American companies when purchasing goods and services.
Theresa May refuses to rule out NHS being part of US trade ... metro.co.uk/2017/01/26/theresa-may-refuses-to... Theresa May arrives in Philadelphia ahead of her meeting with Donald Trump (Picture: Stefan Rousseau/PA Wire) Theresa May has refused to rule out if the NHS may be used as part of a trade deal ...
Campaigners say a trade deal with Trump's America could ... www.walesonline.co.uk/news/politics/campaigners... A trade deal with the Trump administration could put the NHS and other public services at risk of privatisation, campaigners have claimed. There are fears that the public sector could come under …
Republican senators eye up NHS as US-UK trade deal talks loom ... www.profitaccumulator.co.uk/news/all-news/... UK Prime Minister Theresa May has flown to the United States with the aim of working towards a future trade deal between the two countries. However, May has stopped short of ruling out the National Health Service (NHS)'s inclusion in such a deal, to the excitement of Republican senators.
War on Want on a potential UK-US trade deal - The Independent www.independent.co. uk › Voices The NHS is already part-privatised and facing “systematic underfunding” – and under any US-UK deal, US big business will demand access to the tendering of health contracts, likely championed ...
Meghan 'reveals fears over chlorinated chicken from US' amid ... thesun.co.uk/news/8571386/megha-chlorinated... And negotiating objectives published also reveal the US would demand the NHS allow US drug ... American chicken as part of a huge new US trade deal. Millions of Brits enjoy cheap, tasty poultry
You are a genius no extension will probably mean a no deal Brexit. Ignore the evidence. Why do they wash them in chlorine?
Why are they banned by the EU?
"PROBABLY " ...that's PROBABLY , your favourite word . And as far as a no deal option ..good , sooner the better . You and remainers like you are culpable for generating the majority of the ill will in this country , by spreading the scaremongering bs. Why do they wash them in chlorine ? To help manage pathogens like salmonella and campylobacter. Incidentally in 2017 America were the 4th highest exporters of chicken , worth $591.7 million. But guess what post Brexit , if we generally don't like the way the US prepare their chicken , Noone is going to force us to buy them ...I know shocking lightbulb moment eh ?
If there is no extension we leave next week. You must think that we can get the WA passed by then? He is jeopardising the path that has been chosen by the Government, and the arrangements that have been voted in favour of by a majority of Parliament. That's democracy for you. That's not really many chickens, and none of them come into Europe.
In the US, instead of preventing infection in chickens across all stages of rearing and slaughter, the American poultry industry has resorted to acid washes to eliminate bacteria at the end of the meat production chain. Essentially, chemical washes hope to make up for inadequate hygiene on farms and abattoirs. In contrast, the European Union (EU) has chosen another approach to fighting meat-borne bacteria through the landmark ‘farm to fork’ approach. This approach requires steps all along the production chain to ensure food sold to consumers is safe.
If you think there will be choices for us in any US trade deal, you are deluded.
So you are in favour of food produced to lower standards, hormone injected beef, gm crops, and chlorine washed chicken, that has been banned by the EU?
Oh you think we will be forced to buy chicken from them do you ? ...this thread gets funnier by the minute .
Please tell us all , is this what you think ?
Try reading something before posting your uninformed bs.
Try quoting something for a change which is fact ...not maybe's , and coulds.
"He said that Washington would likely demand that the UK accepts US environmental and health standards. These include allowing chlorine-washed chicken and hormone-treated beef — as well as a raft of other punitive measures."
They can demand what they like , doesn't mean that's what's going to happen .
No trade deal then.
If you were a racehorse , you wouldn't just have blinkers on , you would have a hood , cheekpieces , and a tongue strap
If you were a racehorse you would have been sent to the knackers yard a long time ago.
Comments
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47833702
The decision to remove the "European Union" label was made in the expectation that the UK would be leaving the EU at the end of last month, as scheduled.
A Home Office spokeswoman said that "in order to use leftover stock and achieve best value to the taxpayer", passports that include the words "European Union" will continue to be issued for "a short period".
She said: "There will be no difference for British citizens whether they are using a passport that includes the words European Union, or a passport that does not. Both designs will be equally valid for travel."
You must think that we can get the WA passed by then?
He is jeopardising the path that has been chosen by the Government, and the arrangements that have been voted in favour of by a majority of Parliament.
That's democracy for you.
That's not really many chickens, and none of them come into Europe.
In the US, instead of preventing infection in chickens across all stages of rearing and slaughter, the American poultry industry has resorted to acid washes to eliminate bacteria at the end of the meat production chain. Essentially, chemical washes hope to make up for inadequate hygiene on farms and abattoirs. In contrast, the European Union (EU) has chosen another approach to fighting meat-borne bacteria through the landmark ‘farm to fork’ approach. This approach requires steps all along the production chain to ensure food sold to consumers is safe.
If you think there will be choices for us in any US trade deal, you are deluded.
So you are in favour of food produced to lower standards, hormone injected beef, gm crops, and chlorine washed chicken, that has been banned by the EU?
These 10 countries together took 66 percent of the United States' total poultry exports of $5.5 billion in 2014.
1. MEXICO ($1.2 billion in U.S. imports in 2014)
Mostly imports poultry meat and eggs, as well as fertilized eggs for hatching. Currently banning imports of fresh and frozen poultry and poultry products from birds originating from, slaughtered or processed in 10 affected states, including all eight states where outbreaks have occurred in commercial flocks. Exceptions for raw poultry shipped for thermal processing or heat treatment in Mexico. The country expanded the ban last week to live birds and eggs from Iowa.
2. CANADA ($589 million)
Banning imports of raw poultry and products from or near affected counties in seven states and all counties in six other states. Also barring imports of certain processed products.
3. HONG KONG ($521 million) Banning imports of poultry meat and poultry meat products from birds raised, processed, slaughtered or shipped from affected counties in 13 affected states on or after specific dates. Fully cooked or heat treated products exempt.
4. CHINA ($315 million)
All U.S. poultry and products banned since January 2015.
5. ANGOLA ($264 million) All U.S. poultry and products banned since January 2015.
6. RUSSIA ($150 million)
All U.S. poultry and products banned since August 2014 as part of response to sanctions from the United State sand Europe over Russia's annexation of Crimea.
7. CUBA ($148 million)
Banning imports of poultry and poultry products from birds raised, processed, slaughtered or stored in 13 states with HPAI on or after specific dates as well as New Jersey where a strain of low pathogenic avian influenza (LPAI) was discovered.
8. TAIWAN ($143 million)
Banning imports of poultry meat and products from 13 states affected with HPAI and one with LPAI shipped on or after specific dates.
9. SOUTH KOREA ($113 million) All non-heat-treated U.S. poultry and products from birds slaughtered and processed on or after Nov. 25, 2014, are banned. The restrictions include shipments to U.S. military in South Korea.
10. GUATEMALA ($104 million)
Banning imports of poultry and poultry products from birds originating from or slaughtered in affected counties in 13 affected states on or after specific dates.
https://www.businessinsider.com/dozens-of-countries-are-banning-us-poultry-because-of-a-huge-bird-flu-outbreak-2015-4?r=US&IR=T
UK will be forced to accept US food standards in a Brexit trade deal with Trump, warns former trade chief
The UK would have to bend to US demands in any post-Brexit trade deal, the former boss of Liam Fox's international trade department has warned in an interview with Business Insider.
Agricultural goods will form a major part of any UK-US deal.
US trade rules allow products such as chlorinated chicken and hormone-injected beef, which are banned in the UK and EU.
Sir Martin Donnelly told BI: "We're about a fifth of the size of the US. So we're not in so strong a position to insist on maintaining our own standards."
Trade secretary Liam Fox has said a free trade agreement with the United States is one of his department's "top priorities" when the UK leaves the EU.
LONDON — The UK will be forced to accept US demands for the UK to change its food safety standards if it enters into a post-Brexit trade deal with the Trump administration, the former head of the UK's International Trade Department has told Business Insider.
Sir Martin Donnelly, who was the Permanent Secretary of the Department for International Trade until 2017, said that any trade deal would be heavily weighted in the US' favour once Britain has left the EU.
"If Britain wants a trade deal with the United States, it's going to be largely on United States terms, and it's not clear what we would get in return," Donnelly told BI.
He said that Washington would likely demand that the UK accepts US environmental and health standards. These include allowing chlorine-washed chicken and hormone-treated beef — as well as a raft of other punitive measures.
"All American administrations have been clear on the importance of agricultural exports," Donnelly said.
"The UK's position on environmental health issues and animal health is essentially that of the EU. So it's hard to see how you come to a quick trade deal with the Americans which delivers for the UK as opposed to just delivering for Washington."
The former civil servant told BI that the smaller size of the UK to the EU would weaken its relative bargaining power.
The document states that the UK must "remove expeditiously unwarranted barriers that block the export of U.S. food and agricultural products.
It adds that "unjustified trade restrictions," such as the ban on the sale of chlorinated chicken and hormone-injected beef in the UK, must be removed in order to "eliminate practices that unfairly decrease U.S. market access opportunities."
BI highlighted last year that under US food regulation, producers are allowed certain amounts of foreign bodies such as maggots, rat-hair and mould in a range of food products sold to consumers.
In the US, producers adhere to a "Defect Levels Handbook," which sets out the maximum number of foreign bodies like maggots, insect fragments and mould that can be in food products before they are put on the market.
For example, US producers are allowed to include up to 30 insect fragments in a 100-gram jar of peanut butter; as well as 11 rodent hairs in a 25-gram container of paprika; or 3 milligrams of mammalian excreta (typically rat or mouse excrement) per each pound of ginger.
https://www.businessinsider.com/uk-will-accept-us-food-standards-in-post-brexit-trade-deal-with-trump-sir-martin-donnelly-2019-3?r=US&IR=T
"He said that Washington would likely demand that the UK accepts US environmental and health standards. These include allowing chlorine-washed chicken and hormone-treated beef — as well as a raft of other punitive measures."
They can demand what they like , doesn't mean that's what's going to happen .
For many migrants like myself, there’s a contradiction between our status as residents and workers, and our ability to enact political change and be truly represented here
The last decade of politics has been shot through with examples of the shortcomings in Britain’s democratic process.
In 2010, the hung parliament which resulted in the Tory-Lib Dem coalition led to the poorly planned and ultimately unsuccessful referendum on the Alternative Vote system, which would have finally meant a real if limited break from First Past The Post.
In 2014, the Scottish referendum on independence set a six-month residency requirement to be allowed to vote, regardless of nationality, which disenfranchised thousands of Scots elsewhere in the UK and abroad for whom the result would have had a real impact.
In 2016, the EU referendum followed a seemingly arbitrary set of franchise rules. Neither residency or nationality but Commonwealth status was the defining factor, meaning that while approximately 3 million EU migrants were denied a voice (unless they happened to be from Malta, Ireland or Cyprus), Australians and Canadians who were resident here could vote on the Brexit question.
The only change from the rules that apply to General Elections was that the franchise was extended to members of the House of Lords and Gibraltarians. The regulations even prevented a Member of the Scottish Parliament, French national Christian Allard, from being able to vote.
If the series of hung parliaments and political turmoil of the last decade are an indictment of the inadequacies of the voting system, the Brexit vote has been a catalyst for conversations about representation, and what the electorate is and should be.
For many migrants like myself, there’s a contradiction between our status as residents and workers in the places we’ve chosen to live on the one hand, and our ability to enact political change and be truly represented here on the other.
Britain is our home. We have started families here, and we are affected just as much as anyone else by funding cuts to children’s centres and booming school class sizes. We work here, and despite what might be written in the press about us driving down wages, we join trade unions and organise our workplaces, fighting for better pay and working conditions for everyone in the workforce.
Why the Independent Group won’t succeed without electoral reform
Like everyone else we experience the housing crisis, austerity, political problems with political solutions. We pay our taxes here, our money goes into public services – roads, libraries, parks and the NHS – and our lives are affected by their funding and quality. Many of us participate in the political process in whatever way we can, becoming members of political parties (including holding elected positions within those parties), and campaigning in elections.
Despite this, when the time comes to make big political decisions which impact on us as much as they do any other resident, we are denied a vote. Instead, migrants are treated in a far more sinister way: as a silent monolith, referred to but seldom heard, used as a scapegoat and a target. We are one of the few sections of society that can be demonised without the political establishment taking a direct hit at the ballot box.
In the long arc of history, the demands of progressive movements have always been for more democracy, not less. The demands of the Let Us Vote campaign, a campaign which launches today with the support of of Another Europe Is Possible, the3million, and the British in Europe, are simple. We are demanding that the franchise be extended to everyone resident in the UK, regardless of their nationality or citizenship, and to allow every British person abroad to participate in the electoral process at home, should they choose to.
We are tired of being spoken about in parliament without ever being heard within it. For as long as migrants like me cannot vote, we will always be reliant on the good will of a political class who are fundamentally unaccountable to us. If the last few years tell us anything, it’s that good will is simply not enough.
It is time for the UK electorate to expand to cover the people affected by its government’s policies. Let us vote.
Alex Fernandes is a Portuguese migrant living in south London. He is a member of the Labour Party and a supporter of Another Europe is Possible.
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-electoral-reform-migrants-let-us-vote-campaign-a8854816.html
^^^^^
Don't forget the Timeform Squiggle.
There are also concerns about food safety under the terms of a deal
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/post-brexit-trade-deal-could-14071938
UK – US trade deal - The Independent | News
www.independent.co. uk › News › UK › UK Politics
News > UK > UK Politics Theresa May suggests UK health services could be part of US trade deal. PM insists Government remains 'committed to an NHS that is free at the point of use'
May refuses to rule out NHS inclusion in US-UK trade deal ...
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5362935/PM...
Downing Street insisted today the NHS would be protected in any US-UK trade deal hours after the Prime Minister earlier refused to say it would be. Theresa May's official spokesman quoted the PM's ...
US-UK trade deal will let corporations 'run riot' with NHS ...
www.thenational.scot/news/17469818.us-uk-trade...
Donald Trump's administration has published negotiating objectives for a deal which include demands for the UK to provide full market access for US drug firms and ensure that state institutions – such as the NHS – do not discriminate against American companies when purchasing goods and services.
Theresa May refuses to rule out NHS being part of US trade ...
metro.co.uk/2017/01/26/theresa-may-refuses-to...
Theresa May arrives in Philadelphia ahead of her meeting with Donald Trump (Picture: Stefan Rousseau/PA Wire) Theresa May has refused to rule out if the NHS may be used as part of a trade deal ...
Campaigners say a trade deal with Trump's America could ...
www.walesonline.co.uk/news/politics/campaigners...
A trade deal with the Trump administration could put the NHS and other public services at risk of privatisation, campaigners have claimed. There are fears that the public sector could come under …
Republican senators eye up NHS as US-UK trade deal talks loom ...
www.profitaccumulator.co.uk/news/all-news/...
UK Prime Minister Theresa May has flown to the United States with the aim of working towards a future trade deal between the two countries. However, May has stopped short of ruling out the National Health Service (NHS)'s inclusion in such a deal, to the excitement of Republican senators.
War on Want on a potential UK-US trade deal - The Independent
www.independent.co. uk › Voices
The NHS is already part-privatised and facing “systematic underfunding” – and under any US-UK deal, US big business will demand access to the tendering of health contracts, likely championed ...
Meghan 'reveals fears over chlorinated chicken from US' amid ...
thesun.co.uk/news/8571386/megha-chlorinated...
And negotiating objectives published also reveal the US would demand the NHS allow US drug ... American chicken as part of a huge new US trade deal. Millions of Brits enjoy cheap, tasty poultry