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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,689
    edited May 2019
    Nigel Farage's firm pocketed nearly £500,000 in two years
    The assets held by the Brexit Party leader's firm, Thorn in the Side, shot up from £77,893 in May 2016 to £548,573 last year



    But research by the anti-Brexit People’s Vote campaign paints a revealing picture of the former UKIP leader.
    Publicly available Companies House records show assets held by Mr Farage’s company, Thorn in the Side, soared from £77,893 according to accounts up to date in May 2016, to £548,573 in May last year.

    A declaration to the European Parliament in 2017 revealed he trousers €30,000 a month for “broadcast contracts”. He also gets €8,757 a month as an MEP.
    Pro-EU Labour MP Ian Murray said: “Nigel Farage has made himself rich as a snake oil salesman for Brexit. You don’t get more metropolitan elite than Farage. He’s no more a man of the people than he’s a teetotal vegetarian.

    Anti-Brexit campaigners also found a video, apparently from April, of Mr Farage asking self-styled “Ritz rebels” to fund his party.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/nigel-farages-firm-pocketed-nearly-16170668

  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,689
    edited May 2019
    Terrified child refugees stuck in Calais camp 'thanks to broken Tory promises'
    EXCLUSIVE: Lord Alf Dubs visits the young migrants, living in tents and scavenging to survive, who have been denied a life in the UK




    “They collapsed from ­dehydration. Some drank petrol as they were so thirsty – which killed them.”

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/terrified-child-refugees-stuck-calais-16165603
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,689
    Jeremy Corbyn says Labour could keep freedom of movement after Brexit





    Free movement of people between Britain and the EU could continue after Brexit, Jeremy Corbyn has said in an apparent relaxation of Labour’s policy.
    The Labour leader said freedom of movement would be "open for negotiation" if he were in charge of determining the UK’s future relationship with the EU.
    Speaking on the BBC’s Andrew Marr Show, Mr Corbyn appeared to move away from Labour's 2017 election manifesto, which said: "Freedom of movement will end when we leave the European Union."
    Asked yesterday why he was against freedom of movement, Mr Corbyn said: "I'm not staunchly against freedom of movement.
    “Our manifesto said the European system would not apply if you're not in the European Union...

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/05/19/jeremy-corbyn-says-labour-could-keep-freedom-movement-brexit/

  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,689
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,689
    Brexit: EU will not renegotiate withdrawal agreement with May's successor, warns Irish deputy PM
    'The personality might change but the facts don't'





    Ireland's deputy prime minister has warned the European Union will not renegotiate the Brexit withdrawal agreement, regardless of who succeeds Theresa May as prime minister.
    Delivering a scathing assessment of the political logjam at Westminster, Simon Coveney said he was concerned Britain will "fail to get its act together over the summer".

    He also accused politicians of failing to understand the complexity of politics in Northern Ireland, and therefore "have tried to dumb down" the Brexit debate into the UK versus the EU.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-withdrawal-agreement-may-eu-renegotiate-simon-coveney-ireland-a8921131.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,689
    Boris Johnson will make for a disastrous Tory leader. What will it take for the public to realise that?




    https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/letters/boris-johnson-tory-leadership-poll-theresa-may-brexit-yougov-a8920791.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,689
    Brexit: Corbyn's position 'in peril' if he 'betrays' Labour over second referendum, shadow minister says
    Exclusive: 'You can only drive a wedge so far between yourself and the people who put you in that position', Clive Lewis tells his leader




    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-referendum-jeremy-corbyn-labour-leader-second-referendum-latest-clive-lewis-a8919096.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,689
    edited May 2019
























    The image of Nigel Farage splattered by a milkshake in Newcastle appears on most of the front pages.
    "Shaken and stirred" says the Guardian, while the Daily Telegraph's caption reads: "Politics? It's not all milk and honey".
    Meanwhile, the i links the photo to the questions about political donations. "Brexit Party finances get shake-down" is its headline.
    But for the Daily Express, that attack was an "affront to democracy". In an interview with the paper, Mr Farage warns civility is breaking down and blames "radicalised Remainers" who think they are entitled to use any tactics they see fit.



    There will not be any milkshake involved but according to the lead in the Times, the Chancellor Philip Hammond is planning what it calls "a pre-emptive strike" against the Conservative leadership hopeful, Boris Johnson.
    Mr Hammond will warn the populist right is trying to hijack the referendum result with a no-deal that will damage the economy - remarks which, the paper says, are "aimed principally" at the former foreign secretary.
    Paul Waugh in the Huffington Post agrees the comments show the chancellor's "anger" at Mr Johnson.
    The Sun has a warning for Tory MPs who vote tactically in the forthcoming leadership contest in an effort to prevent his name going to the Conservative membership.
    His allies have told the paper they will go to court to prevent that from happening - arguing that under the party's constitution MPs can not block a candidate who enjoys significant support among the members.



    The Guardian leads with polling suggesting that people from ethnic minorities in Britain are facing rising and increasingly overt racism since the Brexit vote.
    It says seven in 10 now report having faced racial discrimination, compared with 58% before the EU vote in 2016.
    The Labour MP David Lammy describes the findings as "alarming" saying the rise comes "as anti-migrant populists seek to divide" using the "playbook of Donald Trump".

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-48345031
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,689
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,689
    Brexit news: ERG hardliners ‘risk putting Corbyn in Downing Street’
    HARDLINERS within the Conservative Party’s European Research Group, chaired by Jacob Rees-Mogg, are risking a disastrous general election which could hand Jeremy Corbyn the keys to Number 10 unless they fall in behind Theresa May’s withdrawal agreement plan, Tory MP Daniel Kawczynski has said.




    https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1129605/brexit-news-erg-hardliners-corbyn-downing-street-farage-johnson-brexit-party


  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,689
    'You have no mandate for a No Deal': Philip Hammond issues warning to Boris and other Brexiteer candidates for PM as he claims option would 'hijack' referendum result
    Theresa May to warn ministers may have to agree to temporary customs union
    Philip Hammond will warn Boris Johnson they have 'no mandate' for No Deal
    The Chancellor will claim leaving with no deal is 'hijacking referendum result'



    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7051603/Philip-Hammond-issues-warning-Boris-No-Deal.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,689
    The WTO Brexit is fairly new, and supported by Farage, and the more hardline Brexiteers.

    This used to be called a no deal Brexit.

    A no deal Brexit is not possible, as it would mean,

    The Irish Border sorting itself out.

    The EU not taking us to court to recover the money we owe them.

    UK citizens living in Europe, and EU citizens living in the UK pretending that the referendum didn't happen.

    Moving forward on these issues currently seems impossible, and there doesn't seem to be a solution on the horizon.

    Going back to the WTO, as some sort of solution.

    As members of the EU we have access to free trade deals with around 70 countries around the world.

    As members we have to forego any rights to an independent trade policy, as the EU negotiates the deals for the bloc.

    This would seem fair, as we would complain if other members like say Germany could negotiate better deals than us, and the Poles would perceive unfairness in any rights we might have of negotiating better deals than them.

    So the EU negotiate all the deals for all the members.

    Many Brexiteers argued that a good reason for leaving, was that we could pursue an independent trade policy, and negotiate our own deals.

    This has not gone so well so far.

    As members we are able to trade with other countries around the world, even though we cant enter into free trade deals with them.

    We do this on WTO terms.

    So what exactly do people like Farage actually mean, when they talk about a WTO Brexit?

    Does it mean that we should just to continue to trade in the same way as we do currently with non EU countries, and once the issues included in the Withdrawal Bill have been resolved, we should add tariffs, and friction to trade with the EU, increasing prices to consumers, and decimating business?


    On the Irish border issue.

    I listened to Nadine Dorries on Sunday morning.

    If it wasn't so serious it would be funny.

    She is still claiming that there is a technological solution to the Irish border problem.

    This is despite the fact that her own Government has stated that a technological solution may be available, but not for ten years.

    When she was asked to point out where in the world these solutions are in place, she was of course stumped.

    Technological solutions, like unicorns, dont exist.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,689
    A solution without a confirmatory vote?

    If Parliament could compromise, which seems unlikely at present, what are the possibilities?

    The Tories will definitely have a new leader this year.

    This obviously means a new PM, and responsibility for Brexit changes hands.

    There will be a General Election in 2022, if not before.

    No Government can tie the hands of any future Government.

    So where do the will of the people supporters stand on this?

    Could one of the parties stand on remaining in the EU in 2022.

    One more extension would just about take us up to the 2022 election, while still being in a transition period.

    Labour support for the WAB seems to hinge on a temporary CU, which would last until the next General Election.

    Yet even if we leave on October 31st, a 2 year transition period, before moving into the Backstop would last until the next GE, anyway. Both the transition period and the Backstop include CU membership.

    When the local election results were projected into a likely GE outcome, the result was Labour winning, with no overall majority.

    This may result in a Labour/SNP coalition. This would undoubtedly mean a second referendum.

    The new Tory leader will undoubtedly mean a change of direction on Brexit.

    A new Government in 2022, or before will also involve a further change in direction.

    It is impossible to think that trade talks will be completed before 2022.

    Brexit seems impossible

    The will of the people, Brexit betrayal, people continue to ignore the obvious.

    How do we get to the end?
  • TheEdge949TheEdge949 Member Posts: 5,679
    HAYSIE said:

    Brexit: EU will not renegotiate withdrawal agreement with May's successor, warns Irish deputy PM
    'The personality might change but the facts don't'





    Ireland's deputy prime minister has warned the European Union will not renegotiate the Brexit withdrawal agreement, regardless of who succeeds Theresa May as prime minister.
    Delivering a scathing assessment of the political logjam at Westminster, Simon Coveney said he was concerned Britain will "fail to get its act together over the summer".

    He also accused politicians of failing to understand the complexity of politics in Northern Ireland, and therefore "have tried to dumb down" the Brexit debate into the UK versus the EU.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-withdrawal-agreement-may-eu-renegotiate-simon-coveney-ireland-a8921131.html

    Typical broken vessel. Ireland shouldnt be warning us about anything.

    They have all the political clout of three men and a dog, and two of them are skint.

    Dodgy dancing and Guinness are the only two contributions theyve made to society and neither would be missed really.

    Its like the class wimp threatening you from behind 27 of his mates, totally laughable.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,689

    HAYSIE said:

    Brexit: EU will not renegotiate withdrawal agreement with May's successor, warns Irish deputy PM
    'The personality might change but the facts don't'





    Ireland's deputy prime minister has warned the European Union will not renegotiate the Brexit withdrawal agreement, regardless of who succeeds Theresa May as prime minister.
    Delivering a scathing assessment of the political logjam at Westminster, Simon Coveney said he was concerned Britain will "fail to get its act together over the summer".

    He also accused politicians of failing to understand the complexity of politics in Northern Ireland, and therefore "have tried to dumb down" the Brexit debate into the UK versus the EU.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-withdrawal-agreement-may-eu-renegotiate-simon-coveney-ireland-a8921131.html

    Typical broken vessel. Ireland shouldnt be warning us about anything.

    They have all the political clout of three men and a dog, and two of them are skint.

    Dodgy dancing and Guinness are the only two contributions theyve made to society and neither would be missed really.

    Its like the class wimp threatening you from behind 27 of his mates, totally laughable.
    Any constructive Irish border solutions?

    Or a possible Brexit solution?
  • QPROBBOQPROBBO Member Posts: 41
    ITV REPORT 20 May 2019 at 3:11pm
    Poll puts Brexit Party on course for European election triumph in Wales
    Europe poll May
    The poll puts the Brexit Party well in the lead and on course to take two seats. UKIP and Change UK are on 2% each.
    By Prof. Roger Awan-Scully
    The Brexit Party is on course for a huge European election victory in Wales – while both Labour and the Conservatives face historic defeats. These are the headline findings that come from the latest Welsh Political Barometer poll.

    Among those indicating that they would vote, and giving a party preference, these are the levels of support for each party that YouGov found (with changes from our previous Barometer poll, in April, indicated in brackets):

    Brexit Party: 36% (+26)

    Plaid Cymru: 19% (+4)

    Labour: 15% (-15)

    Liberal Democrats: 10% (+4)

    Greens: 8% (+5)

    Conservative: 7% (-9)

    UKIP: 2% (-9)

    Change UK: 2% (-6)

    If these results were to be replicated in the election itself, then Wales’ four seats in the European Parliament would be allocated as follows:

    Brexit Party: 2 seats

    Labour: 1 seat:

    Plaid Cymru: 1 seat

    These new polling figures clearly show huge changes from our previous poll. That was conducted before the Brexit party had even officially launched. A great deal has changed in the political landscape in just a few weeks.

    The most obvious change is in the fortunes of the Brexit Party. Just a few weeks old, they are now apparently well in the lead in Wales, up from fifth place in our previous poll. Part of this success has come from the marginalisation of UKIP, whose support has largely disappeared. But much has also come from former Conservative supporters. The detailed findings of our poll shows the Brexit party winning 68% of the support of those who voted Leave in 2016, and also 68% of those who voted Conservative in the 2017 general election.

    Brexit Party
    Nigel Farage met the new Brexit Party AMs at the Senedd. Credit: ITV Cymru Wales
    If our new poll is great news for the Brexit Party, it is the very opposite for both Labour and, to an even greater extent, the Conservatives. Labour have long been our dominant party, but now face the realistic prospect not only of being defeated in Wales but even potentially finishing in third place!

    Meanwhile, according to our poll the Welsh Conservatives are very likely to lose their current seat in the European Parliament, and may actually be on course to finishing in sixth! These would be truly unprecedented results for both the traditionally dominant parties.

    Compared to both Labour and the Conservatives, Plaid Cymru’s performance in our new poll is much stronger. Plaid now have a very realistic chance of finishing ahead of Labour for the first time ever in a Wales-wide election. However, even on their most optimistic interpretation of this poll, Plaid are a long way short of winning two MEPs.

    Attempts to block Brexit party group causing anger and division in Cardiff Bay
    Nigel Farage visits Welsh Assembly to greet new Brexit Party politicians
    Former Labour MP and minister named as ChangeUK candidate in Wales Euro election
    The Liberal Democrats have made some progress since our last poll. However, their progress has been more limited than many other polls have indicated has been happening recently in England: perhaps reflecting the fact that, with Plaid Cymru in the race, the pro-Remain section of the electoral marketplace is more crowded in Wales. As in previous European elections in Wales (such as 1999, 2004 and 2009), the Liberal Democrats may poll very respectably but still fall some way sort of the votes required to win a seat.

    Of course, Plaid and the Lib-Dems are not the only explicitly pro-Remain parties in Wales. Our new poll shows a relatively strong performance from the Greens. However, they look very unlikely to return one of the four MEPs – even if they might conceivably finish ahead of the Conservatives in vote share. Nor do Change UK look to have much chance of winning a seat in Wales: indeed, their brief moment in the political sun may already be coming towards and end.

    ballot box
    Credit: PA
    Overall, if we compare support for the ‘hard Brexit’ parties (Brexit Party plus UKIP) and the unambiguously pro-Remain parties (Plaid, the Lib-Dems, Change UK and the Greens), then our new poll suggests the two sides are very evenly balanced in Wales: some 38 percent are planning to vote for parties endorsing a hard Brexit, and 39 percent for those favouring the UK remaining in the EU.

    But given the way European elections operate in Wales, the figures in this poll suggest that there could be two seats for the Brexit Party and only one for all those parties supporting Remain.

    Haysie even your fellow countrymen believe in Brexit.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,689
    QPROBBO said:

    ITV REPORT 20 May 2019 at 3:11pm
    Poll puts Brexit Party on course for European election triumph in Wales
    Europe poll May
    The poll puts the Brexit Party well in the lead and on course to take two seats. UKIP and Change UK are on 2% each.
    By Prof. Roger Awan-Scully
    The Brexit Party is on course for a huge European election victory in Wales – while both Labour and the Conservatives face historic defeats. These are the headline findings that come from the latest Welsh Political Barometer poll.

    Among those indicating that they would vote, and giving a party preference, these are the levels of support for each party that YouGov found (with changes from our previous Barometer poll, in April, indicated in brackets):

    Brexit Party: 36% (+26)

    Plaid Cymru: 19% (+4)

    Labour: 15% (-15)

    Liberal Democrats: 10% (+4)

    Greens: 8% (+5)

    Conservative: 7% (-9)

    UKIP: 2% (-9)

    Change UK: 2% (-6)

    If these results were to be replicated in the election itself, then Wales’ four seats in the European Parliament would be allocated as follows:

    Brexit Party: 2 seats

    Labour: 1 seat:

    Plaid Cymru: 1 seat

    These new polling figures clearly show huge changes from our previous poll. That was conducted before the Brexit party had even officially launched. A great deal has changed in the political landscape in just a few weeks.

    The most obvious change is in the fortunes of the Brexit Party. Just a few weeks old, they are now apparently well in the lead in Wales, up from fifth place in our previous poll. Part of this success has come from the marginalisation of UKIP, whose support has largely disappeared. But much has also come from former Conservative supporters. The detailed findings of our poll shows the Brexit party winning 68% of the support of those who voted Leave in 2016, and also 68% of those who voted Conservative in the 2017 general election.

    Brexit Party
    Nigel Farage met the new Brexit Party AMs at the Senedd. Credit: ITV Cymru Wales
    If our new poll is great news for the Brexit Party, it is the very opposite for both Labour and, to an even greater extent, the Conservatives. Labour have long been our dominant party, but now face the realistic prospect not only of being defeated in Wales but even potentially finishing in third place!

    Meanwhile, according to our poll the Welsh Conservatives are very likely to lose their current seat in the European Parliament, and may actually be on course to finishing in sixth! These would be truly unprecedented results for both the traditionally dominant parties.

    Compared to both Labour and the Conservatives, Plaid Cymru’s performance in our new poll is much stronger. Plaid now have a very realistic chance of finishing ahead of Labour for the first time ever in a Wales-wide election. However, even on their most optimistic interpretation of this poll, Plaid are a long way short of winning two MEPs.

    Attempts to block Brexit party group causing anger and division in Cardiff Bay
    Nigel Farage visits Welsh Assembly to greet new Brexit Party politicians
    Former Labour MP and minister named as ChangeUK candidate in Wales Euro election
    The Liberal Democrats have made some progress since our last poll. However, their progress has been more limited than many other polls have indicated has been happening recently in England: perhaps reflecting the fact that, with Plaid Cymru in the race, the pro-Remain section of the electoral marketplace is more crowded in Wales. As in previous European elections in Wales (such as 1999, 2004 and 2009), the Liberal Democrats may poll very respectably but still fall some way sort of the votes required to win a seat.

    Of course, Plaid and the Lib-Dems are not the only explicitly pro-Remain parties in Wales. Our new poll shows a relatively strong performance from the Greens. However, they look very unlikely to return one of the four MEPs – even if they might conceivably finish ahead of the Conservatives in vote share. Nor do Change UK look to have much chance of winning a seat in Wales: indeed, their brief moment in the political sun may already be coming towards and end.

    ballot box
    Credit: PA
    Overall, if we compare support for the ‘hard Brexit’ parties (Brexit Party plus UKIP) and the unambiguously pro-Remain parties (Plaid, the Lib-Dems, Change UK and the Greens), then our new poll suggests the two sides are very evenly balanced in Wales: some 38 percent are planning to vote for parties endorsing a hard Brexit, and 39 percent for those favouring the UK remaining in the EU.

    But given the way European elections operate in Wales, the figures in this poll suggest that there could be two seats for the Brexit Party and only one for all those parties supporting Remain.

    Haysie even your fellow countrymen believe in Brexit.

    The Brexit Party have got nothing to do with Brexit.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,689
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,689
    edited May 2019
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,689
    Staying in the EU is better than any Brexit deal - and we make no apology for saying that



    On Wednesday at 9am The Telegraph will host Nigel Farage and Vince Cable as they go head-to-head to argue why you should be voting for the Brexit Party or the Liberal Democrats to shape the UK's future in Europe.
    The polls show that the two leading parties in Thursday's elections are likely to be those which represent clear positions on Brexit. Farage and his party want to leave, without a deal and no matter the costs.
    The Liberal Democrats are equally clear that we want to stop Brexit. We make no apology for saying there is no better deal available outside the European Union than the one Britain has as a full member.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/05/21/vince-cable-staying-eu-better-brexit-deal-make-no-apology/

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