Nigel Farage rolls into Labour country - it's part panto and part hate-fest The Mirror's Paul Routledge follows Farage on the election trail as he visits Merthyr Tydfil in South Wales
This is Nye Bevan and Michael Foot country. Keir Hardie came here to light the flame of socialism more than a century ago. These Labour-loyal Welsh valleys took radical American singer Paul Robeson to their hearts.
But could they possibly become the political killing fields for Nigel Farage next week? He thinks they can. He aims to “smash the establishment”. After a rapturous reception in Yorkshire mining towns, the Brexit leader took his message to former coal and steel communities of South Wales. Alighting from his blue and white battle (or is that bottle?) bus, the Brexit party leader was mobbed in the High Street of Merthyr Tydfil – but by the media not local people. His message was greeted with as many insults as cheers.
The walkabout came to a halt outside the town’s Wetherspoons – Y Dic Penderyn – named after the martyred leader of the Merthyr Rising of 1831. Farage never went inside, which must be a first.
On this spot, the Red Flag was raised for the first time in the UK in a revolt of the downtrodden 188 years ago. “You’re not welcome here!” shouted musician Stephen Williams, 41, organiser of celebrations for an anniversary event. His friends used language not suitable for a family newspaper. But at the same time there were a good few cheered greetings from windows of “Good luck, Nigel”. Farage also had a good reception in the vape shop. He admitted trying e-cigs “but they made me cough.”
Merthyr has benefited enormously from EU funding, the second-most in Wales. New landscaped spaces, a college, social enterprises and even a Institute for the Blind. Yet the constituency voted 56-44% Leave in the referendum three years ago. Only a rash punter would bet that they won’t vote Brexit on Thursday. Canvassing on the Gurnos estate suggests a big swing from Labour to “Out Now!” A common theme was disillusion with Labour. A 76-year- old charity shop worker, who had driven three hours from North Wales to see his hero said: “I’ve always voted Labour, but all I want to do is get Brexit through. I’ll vote for that again and again until it goes through, hopefully.” Another, told me: “I voted for Corbyn because he said he would listen to the people. But he hasn’t, has he? That’s why I’m here.” Both declined to give their names.
Farage sees himself as a latter-day Hardie: a man who broke the mould of British politics. On stage, he even compared himself to the socialist pioneer at an evening rally in the car park of Trago Mills, an out-of-town cut-price emporium run by a Brexit supporter. Seats were advertised at £2.50 a time (bring own chair). But the audience wasn’t quite up to expectations, and tickets were abandoned. Hundreds of placards were left uncollected. But it was more successful than his town-centre me-me-talkabout. Several hundred people, mostly middle aged or older but with a fair sprinkling of young ’uns, turned up for a show that was part panto, part hate-fest and part pop-festival. Loud music, big-screen videos, ooohing of Brexiteers, booing of Labour, the Tories, civil servants, Anna Soubry, and the rest of the stage villains preceded Farage’s familiar rhetoric.
He lashed out at a couple of dozen Remain protesters and accused Theresa May of building a coalition against the people. “We will not stand for it,” he bellowed. Farage is loud about Leave and Tory/Labour “betrayal”, but silent about the big issues that affect the people he claims adore him. The NHS? “I am not going to play that game.” Policies on housing, taxes – anything: “I’ll tell you after the election.” This must be the first time a leader has refused to reveal his plans until after the votes are in. Farage is blasé. “This election is about Brexit, not manifestos,” he said. “I will never, ever have a manifesto. Manifesto equals lies.”
Local MP Gerald Jones, a shadow defence minister with a 16,000 majority, told the Mirror: “What we want is an end to Tory austerity, an end to in work-poverty and investment in vital public services – not a simple solution to complex problems. “If Nigel Farage cared about working class communities like those in the Welsh valleys, he would not be pushing for a catastrophic no-deal Brexit.”
When the moment came, I asked Farage: “What is your message to Mirror readers?” He said Remainers could vote Labour. But for Labour leavers, he said the MEP list system “is not for you.” Eh? Where is his slick slogan “Tell Them Again”! He said: “We have a credible offer – that’s one of the reasons we have left of centre candidates as well.” Not the stuff to give the troops for a second Rising, Mr Mini-Trump. Maybe he’s too smart to let the venom show.
Is there a single blue-rinse Tory who doesn’t fancy a knee-trembler with Boris Johnson?
The leadership candidate is said to connect with people emotionally. But his only genuine emotion is self-love
I wouldn’t kiss you if you were the last man on Earth!” It’s one of the great cliches of romance novels that any woman saying this will, in due course, be doing just that. Maybe it’ll be a hate-kiss in the hayloft above the stables; maybe it’ll be a momentary lapse just after he’s rescued her from a predatory ranch hand. But you can absolutely bet on it: she’s going to be “sharing herself” with this man within 100 pages. The Tory parliamentary party’s relationship with Boris Johnson is the hardcore **** version of this. For so long, you couldn’t move for Conservative MPs saying they’d leave the party if Johnson ever became leader, that they wouldn’t vote for him in a million years, that he didn’t have a chance of getting anywhere near their special place. One hundred pages deeper into the shitshow, where are we on these holdouts?
Is he even possibly going to be our next prime minster, then? Boris Johnson? This **** Eye “before” photo, this offbrand Flashheart, this radioactive haystack, this Frankenstein assemblage of all the rejected personality disorders of the minor Greek gods? Oh wait – this overpromoted journalist whose style philosophy is “sleeping in my car for a domestic misdemeanour”? According to what one experienced hand at the heart of government told the Spectator’s James Forsyth this week, “The only person who can stop Boris is Boris.” Right – just like how Mike Tyson said his hardest opponent was always himself. In a way.
If Johnson’s is one of the two names that makes it past the parliamentary ballot, he is surely nailed on. Among the Tory party’s madly reactionary members, who lag about 30 years behind the rest of the country in every attitudinal survey, there is barely a blue rinse out there who doesn’t secretly fancy a knee-trembler with this winsomely naughty boy, 54. Sure, there will be a few Tory MPs who keep their word and decline to stick around in the event of Johnson winning – your Dominic Grieves (who’s already lost one confidence motion in his constituency), and perhaps your Nicholas Soameses. And we’ll come to how heartbreakingly brief that could render BoJo’s premiership in another column.
But in general, you should give as much credence to Tory MPs’ earlier expressions of principle as far as Johnson is concerned as you should have done to all the celebrities who said they would emigrate if Labour got into power in 1997, and to all the US stars who said they’d move to Canada if Donald Trump won the US presidency.
Well, weirdo Fleet Street convention demands I describe this as a family newspaper. So I can’t even begin to detail the stuff the Conservative party are probably going to do for Johnson – and, indeed, the stuff they’re going to let him do to them. But I can tell you that while he’s doing it, they will not be protesting, but instead moaning “DO ME UP THE WTO! PERVERT ME LIKE THE FACTS IN YOUR CHURCHILL BIOGRAPHY! IMPREGNATE ME WITH YOUR O-LEVEL LATIN!” The clear message you should be getting from “the party of business” is: buy shares in lube today.
Arguably the only person who could throw all these three men into sympathetic relief is Theresa May. In terms of political gifts, or horrifying lack thereof, May recalls the bit at the start of Edward Scissorhands where Edward’s inventor dies before he’s been able to fit his creation with hands. The kindest way to put it is to say that May has spent the past three years coming off as unfinished. Her attempts to reach out have been calamitous. To watch her at work for any length of time is to end up screaming, “Oh my God PLEASE – please! – just STOP TOUCHING THINGS.” Still, you will note that May has been resigned again this week. Over the past few months, I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve seen her pictured in the classic back-of-the-car shot that’s supposed to indicate “taxi for the prime minister”. May feels like the only person to have resigned more than Farage – and yet she’s still there. We’re all still here, more’s the pity. The UK remains in toxic stasis, presided over by a necrotic government, but now with a gathering sense that much worse could be in the post.
General election risks 'killing Brexit', Matt Hancock warns
Theresa May's successor as prime minister should not call a general election until Brexit is completed, a cabinet minister has warned. Health Secretary Matt Hancock said an early election risked losing to Labour and "killing Brexit altogether". His comments come after cross-party talks aimed at breaking the impasse collapsed on Friday. Meanwhile, a poll of Tory members for The Times puts Boris Johnson as the favourite to succeed Mrs May. Mr Hancock told the Daily Telegraph it would be a "disaster" to call a general election before the UK had left the EU as "people don't want it".
Leave.EU founder confirms he funded Nigel Farage in year after referendum
Nigel Farage received £450,000 from the founder of pro-Brexit group Leave.EU in the year after the Brexit referendum.
Items paid for by Arron Banks included Mr Farage's London home, his car and trips to the US to meet Donald Trump. A spokesman for Mr Banks confirmed the amount and what it had been used for,
Speaking at the launch of the Brexit party campaign in Scotland, Mr Farage said he did not declare it to the European Parliament because he was about to leave politics and had been seeking a new life in the US.
When campaigning in Dudley, West Midlands, Mr Farage was asked if he had received £450,000 from Mr Banks and said "unfortunately not", adding that if he had, "it would be lovely".
The Leave.EU founder said he had "willingly helped Farage and was honoured to do so", adding: "This was all designed to help Nigel get out of politics."
A spokesman for the European Parliament said that MEPs have to declare any spending linked to political activity that is paid for by third parties.
Please explain to me the logic in posting everything twice ? Is it like , feeling the need to shout to make your point ? Is that what it is ?
I have no intention of explaining anything to you.
Thought so
Ok, you persuaded me.
I assume you are referring to the second article regarding Nigels funding by AAron Banks, to the tune of £450,000, which paid his rent, bought his car, paid his driver, and bought his crockery, shower curtain etc.
It is my opinion that you don't read very much of what is posted, including posts of your own.
Below are some extracts from the first article that I posted.
Farage refused to comment on the claims while Banks dismissed them as a “smear”
During this period, as well as his MEP’s salary of nearly €9,000 a month, and an extra €30,000 a month declared in media appearances, Farage complained in an interview that he was “53, separated and skint” and that “there’s no money in politics”. At the time, critics noted that this appeared an unusual claim, given he was then living in the Chelsea home, which is valued at about £4m.
A Channel 4 News reporter approached Farage in Merthyr Tydfil on Wednesday to ask him about the alleged funding by Banks, with Farage saying he had no comment.
Banks told the programme: “Channel 4 attempts to smear myself and Nigel
However the second article is similar, but headlined,
Leave.EU founder confirms he funded Nigel Farage in year after referendum
And continues.
A spokesman for Mr Banks confirmed the amount and what it had been used for,
Speaking at the launch of the Brexit party campaign in Scotland, Mr Farage said he did not declare it to the European Parliament because he was about to leave politics and had been seeking a new life in the US.
When campaigning in Dudley, West Midlands, Mr Farage was asked if he had received £450,000 from Mr Banks and said "unfortunately not", adding that if he had, "it would be lovely".
The Leave.EU founder said he had "willingly helped Farage and was honoured to do so", adding: "This was all designed to help Nigel get out of politics."
A spokesman for the European Parliament said that MEPs have to declare any spending linked to political activity that is paid for by third parties.
So by the time the second article was published this story was no longer a smear as far as Mr Banks was concerned.
Nigel adopts a peculiar position whereby he seemingly admits to not reporting the income to the EU, using a bogus excuse, when it clearly should have been reported.
Whilst at the same time denying he received the money.
Conclusive proof that Nigel and the truth are strangers.
Had you read them, you would have realised that there were clear differences.
This is a result of the fact that you are only interested in anything that is pro Farage.
Try to keep up, because explaining stuff to you is time consuming.
Please explain to me the logic in posting everything twice ? Is it like , feeling the need to shout to make your point ? Is that what it is ?
I have no intention of explaining anything to you.
Thought so
Ok, you persuaded me.
I assume you are referring to the second article regarding Nigels funding by AAron Banks, to the tune of £450,000, which paid his rent, bought his car, paid his driver, and bought his crockery, shower curtain etc.
It is my opinion that you don't read very much of what is posted, including posts of your own.
Below are some extracts from the first article that I posted.
Farage refused to comment on the claims while Banks dismissed them as a “smear”
During this period, as well as his MEP’s salary of nearly €9,000 a month, and an extra €30,000 a month declared in media appearances, Farage complained in an interview that he was “53, separated and skint” and that “there’s no money in politics”. At the time, critics noted that this appeared an unusual claim, given he was then living in the Chelsea home, which is valued at about £4m.
A Channel 4 News reporter approached Farage in Merthyr Tydfil on Wednesday to ask him about the alleged funding by Banks, with Farage saying he had no comment.
Banks told the programme: “Channel 4 attempts to smear myself and Nigel
However the second article is similar, but headlined,
Leave.EU founder confirms he funded Nigel Farage in year after referendum
And continues.
A spokesman for Mr Banks confirmed the amount and what it had been used for,
Speaking at the launch of the Brexit party campaign in Scotland, Mr Farage said he did not declare it to the European Parliament because he was about to leave politics and had been seeking a new life in the US.
When campaigning in Dudley, West Midlands, Mr Farage was asked if he had received £450,000 from Mr Banks and said "unfortunately not", adding that if he had, "it would be lovely".
The Leave.EU founder said he had "willingly helped Farage and was honoured to do so", adding: "This was all designed to help Nigel get out of politics."
A spokesman for the European Parliament said that MEPs have to declare any spending linked to political activity that is paid for by third parties.
So by the time the second article was published this story was no longer a smear as far as Mr Banks was concerned.
Nigel adopts a peculiar position whereby he seemingly admits to not reporting the income to the EU, using a bogus excuse, when it clearly should have been reported.
Whilst at the same time denying he received the money.
Conclusive proof that Nigel and the truth are strangers.
Had you read them, you would have realised that there were clear differences.
This is a result of the fact that you are only interested in anything that is pro Farage.
Try to keep up, because explaining stuff to you is time consuming.
The fact remains , that you consistently post the same articles on this nonsense of a thread and then on mine . What would be your rationale for doing that ? Why would you feel the need to post the same article on 2 different threads ? Do you think that if you don't post something on both threads people might miss it ?
Please explain to me the logic in posting everything twice ? Is it like , feeling the need to shout to make your point ? Is that what it is ?
I have no intention of explaining anything to you.
Thought so
Ok, you persuaded me.
I assume you are referring to the second article regarding Nigels funding by AAron Banks, to the tune of £450,000, which paid his rent, bought his car, paid his driver, and bought his crockery, shower curtain etc.
It is my opinion that you don't read very much of what is posted, including posts of your own.
Below are some extracts from the first article that I posted.
Farage refused to comment on the claims while Banks dismissed them as a “smear”
During this period, as well as his MEP’s salary of nearly €9,000 a month, and an extra €30,000 a month declared in media appearances, Farage complained in an interview that he was “53, separated and skint” and that “there’s no money in politics”. At the time, critics noted that this appeared an unusual claim, given he was then living in the Chelsea home, which is valued at about £4m.
A Channel 4 News reporter approached Farage in Merthyr Tydfil on Wednesday to ask him about the alleged funding by Banks, with Farage saying he had no comment.
Banks told the programme: “Channel 4 attempts to smear myself and Nigel
However the second article is similar, but headlined,
Leave.EU founder confirms he funded Nigel Farage in year after referendum
And continues.
A spokesman for Mr Banks confirmed the amount and what it had been used for,
Speaking at the launch of the Brexit party campaign in Scotland, Mr Farage said he did not declare it to the European Parliament because he was about to leave politics and had been seeking a new life in the US.
When campaigning in Dudley, West Midlands, Mr Farage was asked if he had received £450,000 from Mr Banks and said "unfortunately not", adding that if he had, "it would be lovely".
The Leave.EU founder said he had "willingly helped Farage and was honoured to do so", adding: "This was all designed to help Nigel get out of politics."
A spokesman for the European Parliament said that MEPs have to declare any spending linked to political activity that is paid for by third parties.
So by the time the second article was published this story was no longer a smear as far as Mr Banks was concerned.
Nigel adopts a peculiar position whereby he seemingly admits to not reporting the income to the EU, using a bogus excuse, when it clearly should have been reported.
Whilst at the same time denying he received the money.
Conclusive proof that Nigel and the truth are strangers.
Had you read them, you would have realised that there were clear differences.
This is a result of the fact that you are only interested in anything that is pro Farage.
Try to keep up, because explaining stuff to you is time consuming.
The fact remains , that you consistently post the same articles on this nonsense of a thread and then on mine . What would be your rationale for doing that ? Why would you feel the need to post the same article on 2 different threads ? Do you think that if you don't post something on both threads people might miss it ?
I think you might find a number of Brexit Party Rally posts on this thread.
Please explain to me the logic in posting everything twice ? Is it like , feeling the need to shout to make your point ? Is that what it is ?
I have no intention of explaining anything to you.
Thought so
Ok, you persuaded me.
I assume you are referring to the second article regarding Nigels funding by AAron Banks, to the tune of £450,000, which paid his rent, bought his car, paid his driver, and bought his crockery, shower curtain etc.
It is my opinion that you don't read very much of what is posted, including posts of your own.
Below are some extracts from the first article that I posted.
Farage refused to comment on the claims while Banks dismissed them as a “smear”
During this period, as well as his MEP’s salary of nearly €9,000 a month, and an extra €30,000 a month declared in media appearances, Farage complained in an interview that he was “53, separated and skint” and that “there’s no money in politics”. At the time, critics noted that this appeared an unusual claim, given he was then living in the Chelsea home, which is valued at about £4m.
A Channel 4 News reporter approached Farage in Merthyr Tydfil on Wednesday to ask him about the alleged funding by Banks, with Farage saying he had no comment.
Banks told the programme: “Channel 4 attempts to smear myself and Nigel
However the second article is similar, but headlined,
Leave.EU founder confirms he funded Nigel Farage in year after referendum
And continues.
A spokesman for Mr Banks confirmed the amount and what it had been used for,
Speaking at the launch of the Brexit party campaign in Scotland, Mr Farage said he did not declare it to the European Parliament because he was about to leave politics and had been seeking a new life in the US.
When campaigning in Dudley, West Midlands, Mr Farage was asked if he had received £450,000 from Mr Banks and said "unfortunately not", adding that if he had, "it would be lovely".
The Leave.EU founder said he had "willingly helped Farage and was honoured to do so", adding: "This was all designed to help Nigel get out of politics."
A spokesman for the European Parliament said that MEPs have to declare any spending linked to political activity that is paid for by third parties.
So by the time the second article was published this story was no longer a smear as far as Mr Banks was concerned.
Nigel adopts a peculiar position whereby he seemingly admits to not reporting the income to the EU, using a bogus excuse, when it clearly should have been reported.
Whilst at the same time denying he received the money.
Conclusive proof that Nigel and the truth are strangers.
Had you read them, you would have realised that there were clear differences.
This is a result of the fact that you are only interested in anything that is pro Farage.
Try to keep up, because explaining stuff to you is time consuming.
The fact remains , that you consistently post the same articles on this nonsense of a thread and then on mine . What would be your rationale for doing that ? Why would you feel the need to post the same article on 2 different threads ? Do you think that if you don't post something on both threads people might miss it ?
I think you might find a number of Brexit Party Rally posts on this thread.
Please explain to me the logic in posting everything twice ? Is it like , feeling the need to shout to make your point ? Is that what it is ?
I have no intention of explaining anything to you.
Thought so
Ok, you persuaded me.
I assume you are referring to the second article regarding Nigels funding by AAron Banks, to the tune of £450,000, which paid his rent, bought his car, paid his driver, and bought his crockery, shower curtain etc.
It is my opinion that you don't read very much of what is posted, including posts of your own.
Below are some extracts from the first article that I posted.
Farage refused to comment on the claims while Banks dismissed them as a “smear”
During this period, as well as his MEP’s salary of nearly €9,000 a month, and an extra €30,000 a month declared in media appearances, Farage complained in an interview that he was “53, separated and skint” and that “there’s no money in politics”. At the time, critics noted that this appeared an unusual claim, given he was then living in the Chelsea home, which is valued at about £4m.
A Channel 4 News reporter approached Farage in Merthyr Tydfil on Wednesday to ask him about the alleged funding by Banks, with Farage saying he had no comment.
Banks told the programme: “Channel 4 attempts to smear myself and Nigel
However the second article is similar, but headlined,
Leave.EU founder confirms he funded Nigel Farage in year after referendum
And continues.
A spokesman for Mr Banks confirmed the amount and what it had been used for,
Speaking at the launch of the Brexit party campaign in Scotland, Mr Farage said he did not declare it to the European Parliament because he was about to leave politics and had been seeking a new life in the US.
When campaigning in Dudley, West Midlands, Mr Farage was asked if he had received £450,000 from Mr Banks and said "unfortunately not", adding that if he had, "it would be lovely".
The Leave.EU founder said he had "willingly helped Farage and was honoured to do so", adding: "This was all designed to help Nigel get out of politics."
A spokesman for the European Parliament said that MEPs have to declare any spending linked to political activity that is paid for by third parties.
So by the time the second article was published this story was no longer a smear as far as Mr Banks was concerned.
Nigel adopts a peculiar position whereby he seemingly admits to not reporting the income to the EU, using a bogus excuse, when it clearly should have been reported.
Whilst at the same time denying he received the money.
Conclusive proof that Nigel and the truth are strangers.
Had you read them, you would have realised that there were clear differences.
This is a result of the fact that you are only interested in anything that is pro Farage.
Try to keep up, because explaining stuff to you is time consuming.
The fact remains , that you consistently post the same articles on this nonsense of a thread and then on mine . What would be your rationale for doing that ? Why would you feel the need to post the same article on 2 different threads ? Do you think that if you don't post something on both threads people might miss it ?
I think you might find a number of Brexit Party Rally posts on this thread.
Perhaps you would like to answer the questions.
You just made exactly the same post twice in 20 minutes on the other thread. So I assume that you can answer any questions on multiple postings for yourself.
So whilst you accuse me of posting stuff which I might think is applicable to two different threads, which seems logical, and must make sense to you, because you have done it, numerous times, you are posting exactly the seem stuff on the same thread within 20 minutes.
@Nigel_Farage Follow Follow @Nigel_Farage More Democracy only works if the losers accept the result. Our ambition is much bigger than Brexit. We want to transform the political landscape and sweep aside the two-party system.
@Nigel_Farage Follow Follow @Nigel_Farage More Democracy only works if the losers accept the result. Our ambition is much bigger than Brexit. We want to transform the political landscape and sweep aside the two-party system.
Please explain to me the logic in posting everything twice ? Is it like , feeling the need to shout to make your point ? Is that what it is ?
I thought you might have come up with at least an attempt to defend Nigel over these financial allegations, and his bare faced lying, rather your usual concentration on nit picking
Please explain to me the logic in posting everything twice ? Is it like , feeling the need to shout to make your point ? Is that what it is ?
I have no intention of explaining anything to you.
Thought so
Ok, you persuaded me.
I assume you are referring to the second article regarding Nigels funding by AAron Banks, to the tune of £450,000, which paid his rent, bought his car, paid his driver, and bought his crockery, shower curtain etc.
It is my opinion that you don't read very much of what is posted, including posts of your own.
Below are some extracts from the first article that I posted.
Farage refused to comment on the claims while Banks dismissed them as a “smear”
During this period, as well as his MEP’s salary of nearly €9,000 a month, and an extra €30,000 a month declared in media appearances, Farage complained in an interview that he was “53, separated and skint” and that “there’s no money in politics”. At the time, critics noted that this appeared an unusual claim, given he was then living in the Chelsea home, which is valued at about £4m.
A Channel 4 News reporter approached Farage in Merthyr Tydfil on Wednesday to ask him about the alleged funding by Banks, with Farage saying he had no comment.
Banks told the programme: “Channel 4 attempts to smear myself and Nigel
However the second article is similar, but headlined,
Leave.EU founder confirms he funded Nigel Farage in year after referendum
And continues.
A spokesman for Mr Banks confirmed the amount and what it had been used for,
Speaking at the launch of the Brexit party campaign in Scotland, Mr Farage said he did not declare it to the European Parliament because he was about to leave politics and had been seeking a new life in the US.
When campaigning in Dudley, West Midlands, Mr Farage was asked if he had received £450,000 from Mr Banks and said "unfortunately not", adding that if he had, "it would be lovely".
The Leave.EU founder said he had "willingly helped Farage and was honoured to do so", adding: "This was all designed to help Nigel get out of politics."
A spokesman for the European Parliament said that MEPs have to declare any spending linked to political activity that is paid for by third parties.
So by the time the second article was published this story was no longer a smear as far as Mr Banks was concerned.
Nigel adopts a peculiar position whereby he seemingly admits to not reporting the income to the EU, using a bogus excuse, when it clearly should have been reported.
Whilst at the same time denying he received the money.
Conclusive proof that Nigel and the truth are strangers.
Had you read them, you would have realised that there were clear differences.
This is a result of the fact that you are only interested in anything that is pro Farage.
Try to keep up, because explaining stuff to you is time consuming.
The fact remains , that you consistently post the same articles on this nonsense of a thread and then on mine . What would be your rationale for doing that ? Why would you feel the need to post the same article on 2 different threads ? Do you think that if you don't post something on both threads people might miss it ?
I think you might find a number of Brexit Party Rally posts on this thread.
Perhaps you would like to answer the questions.
You just made exactly the same post twice in 20 minutes on the other thread. So I assume that you can answer any questions on multiple postings for yourself.
So whilst you accuse me of posting stuff which I might think is applicable to two different threads, which seems logical, and must make sense to you, because you have done it, numerous times, you are posting exactly the seem stuff on the same thread within 20 minutes.
@Nigel_Farage Follow Follow @Nigel_Farage More Democracy only works if the losers accept the result. Our ambition is much bigger than Brexit. We want to transform the political landscape and sweep aside the two-party system.
@Nigel_Farage Follow Follow @Nigel_Farage More Democracy only works if the losers accept the result. Our ambition is much bigger than Brexit. We want to transform the political landscape and sweep aside the two-party system.
Quite right , I did. Explanation quite simple , because I wanted the post to be the last one visible on the thread . Now I appreciate that it will be difficult for you to rationalise why you actually do most of the things you do and say the things you say , but I will try again . Why do you feel the necessity to duplicate posts on this thread and mine constantly ?
Please explain to me the logic in posting everything twice ? Is it like , feeling the need to shout to make your point ? Is that what it is ?
I thought you might have come up with at least an attempt to defend Nigel over these financial allegations, and his bare faced lying, rather your usual concentration on nit picking
He's denied it ...and it is now up to C4 to provide the evidence ( saying you have seen the evidence isn't proving it ) Perhaps you will also note the word " allegations" .
Please explain to me the logic in posting everything twice ? Is it like , feeling the need to shout to make your point ? Is that what it is ?
I thought you might have come up with at least an attempt to defend Nigel over these financial allegations, and his bare faced lying, rather your usual concentration on nit picking
He's denied it ...and it is now up to C4 to provide the evidence ( saying you have seen the evidence isn't proving it )
Aaron Banks has confirmed it is true. Nigel has said 1 He failed to report receiving it to the EU. 2 He didn't receive it.
Please explain to me the logic in posting everything twice ? Is it like , feeling the need to shout to make your point ? Is that what it is ?
I have no intention of explaining anything to you.
Thought so
Ok, you persuaded me.
I assume you are referring to the second article regarding Nigels funding by AAron Banks, to the tune of £450,000, which paid his rent, bought his car, paid his driver, and bought his crockery, shower curtain etc.
It is my opinion that you don't read very much of what is posted, including posts of your own.
Below are some extracts from the first article that I posted.
Farage refused to comment on the claims while Banks dismissed them as a “smear”
During this period, as well as his MEP’s salary of nearly €9,000 a month, and an extra €30,000 a month declared in media appearances, Farage complained in an interview that he was “53, separated and skint” and that “there’s no money in politics”. At the time, critics noted that this appeared an unusual claim, given he was then living in the Chelsea home, which is valued at about £4m.
A Channel 4 News reporter approached Farage in Merthyr Tydfil on Wednesday to ask him about the alleged funding by Banks, with Farage saying he had no comment.
Banks told the programme: “Channel 4 attempts to smear myself and Nigel
However the second article is similar, but headlined,
Leave.EU founder confirms he funded Nigel Farage in year after referendum
And continues.
A spokesman for Mr Banks confirmed the amount and what it had been used for,
Speaking at the launch of the Brexit party campaign in Scotland, Mr Farage said he did not declare it to the European Parliament because he was about to leave politics and had been seeking a new life in the US.
When campaigning in Dudley, West Midlands, Mr Farage was asked if he had received £450,000 from Mr Banks and said "unfortunately not", adding that if he had, "it would be lovely".
The Leave.EU founder said he had "willingly helped Farage and was honoured to do so", adding: "This was all designed to help Nigel get out of politics."
A spokesman for the European Parliament said that MEPs have to declare any spending linked to political activity that is paid for by third parties.
So by the time the second article was published this story was no longer a smear as far as Mr Banks was concerned.
Nigel adopts a peculiar position whereby he seemingly admits to not reporting the income to the EU, using a bogus excuse, when it clearly should have been reported.
Whilst at the same time denying he received the money.
Conclusive proof that Nigel and the truth are strangers.
Had you read them, you would have realised that there were clear differences.
This is a result of the fact that you are only interested in anything that is pro Farage.
Try to keep up, because explaining stuff to you is time consuming.
The fact remains , that you consistently post the same articles on this nonsense of a thread and then on mine . What would be your rationale for doing that ? Why would you feel the need to post the same article on 2 different threads ? Do you think that if you don't post something on both threads people might miss it ?
I think you might find a number of Brexit Party Rally posts on this thread.
Perhaps you would like to answer the questions.
You just made exactly the same post twice in 20 minutes on the other thread. So I assume that you can answer any questions on multiple postings for yourself.
So whilst you accuse me of posting stuff which I might think is applicable to two different threads, which seems logical, and must make sense to you, because you have done it, numerous times, you are posting exactly the seem stuff on the same thread within 20 minutes.
@Nigel_Farage Follow Follow @Nigel_Farage More Democracy only works if the losers accept the result. Our ambition is much bigger than Brexit. We want to transform the political landscape and sweep aside the two-party system.
@Nigel_Farage Follow Follow @Nigel_Farage More Democracy only works if the losers accept the result. Our ambition is much bigger than Brexit. We want to transform the political landscape and sweep aside the two-party system.
Quite right , I did. Explanation quite simple , because I wanted the post to be the last one visible on the thread . Now I appreciate that it will be difficult for you to rationalise why you actually do most of the things you do and say the things you say , but I will try again . Why do you feel the necessity to duplicate posts on this thread and mine constantly ?
Please explain to me the logic in posting everything twice ? Is it like , feeling the need to shout to make your point ? Is that what it is ?
I have no intention of explaining anything to you.
Thought so
Ok, you persuaded me.
I assume you are referring to the second article regarding Nigels funding by AAron Banks, to the tune of £450,000, which paid his rent, bought his car, paid his driver, and bought his crockery, shower curtain etc.
It is my opinion that you don't read very much of what is posted, including posts of your own.
Below are some extracts from the first article that I posted.
Farage refused to comment on the claims while Banks dismissed them as a “smear”
During this period, as well as his MEP’s salary of nearly €9,000 a month, and an extra €30,000 a month declared in media appearances, Farage complained in an interview that he was “53, separated and skint” and that “there’s no money in politics”. At the time, critics noted that this appeared an unusual claim, given he was then living in the Chelsea home, which is valued at about £4m.
A Channel 4 News reporter approached Farage in Merthyr Tydfil on Wednesday to ask him about the alleged funding by Banks, with Farage saying he had no comment.
Banks told the programme: “Channel 4 attempts to smear myself and Nigel
However the second article is similar, but headlined,
Leave.EU founder confirms he funded Nigel Farage in year after referendum
And continues.
A spokesman for Mr Banks confirmed the amount and what it had been used for,
Speaking at the launch of the Brexit party campaign in Scotland, Mr Farage said he did not declare it to the European Parliament because he was about to leave politics and had been seeking a new life in the US.
When campaigning in Dudley, West Midlands, Mr Farage was asked if he had received £450,000 from Mr Banks and said "unfortunately not", adding that if he had, "it would be lovely".
The Leave.EU founder said he had "willingly helped Farage and was honoured to do so", adding: "This was all designed to help Nigel get out of politics."
A spokesman for the European Parliament said that MEPs have to declare any spending linked to political activity that is paid for by third parties.
So by the time the second article was published this story was no longer a smear as far as Mr Banks was concerned.
Nigel adopts a peculiar position whereby he seemingly admits to not reporting the income to the EU, using a bogus excuse, when it clearly should have been reported.
Whilst at the same time denying he received the money.
Conclusive proof that Nigel and the truth are strangers.
Had you read them, you would have realised that there were clear differences.
This is a result of the fact that you are only interested in anything that is pro Farage.
Try to keep up, because explaining stuff to you is time consuming.
The fact remains , that you consistently post the same articles on this nonsense of a thread and then on mine . What would be your rationale for doing that ? Why would you feel the need to post the same article on 2 different threads ? Do you think that if you don't post something on both threads people might miss it ?
I think you might find a number of Brexit Party Rally posts on this thread.
Perhaps you would like to answer the questions.
You just made exactly the same post twice in 20 minutes on the other thread. So I assume that you can answer any questions on multiple postings for yourself.
So whilst you accuse me of posting stuff which I might think is applicable to two different threads, which seems logical, and must make sense to you, because you have done it, numerous times, you are posting exactly the seem stuff on the same thread within 20 minutes.
@Nigel_Farage Follow Follow @Nigel_Farage More Democracy only works if the losers accept the result. Our ambition is much bigger than Brexit. We want to transform the political landscape and sweep aside the two-party system.
@Nigel_Farage Follow Follow @Nigel_Farage More Democracy only works if the losers accept the result. Our ambition is much bigger than Brexit. We want to transform the political landscape and sweep aside the two-party system.
Quite right , I did. Explanation quite simple , because I wanted the post to be the last one visible on the thread . Now I appreciate that it will be difficult for you to rationalise why you actually do most of the things you do and say the things you say , but I will try again . Why do you feel the necessity to duplicate posts on this thread and mine constantly ?
I will continue to post anything that I think is valid to any thread, on that particular thread, whoever it belongs to. I have discontinued reading the other thread, due to the lack of any interesting content. So any insults you care post on it, that are directed at me, will be completely wasted.
Posting exactly the same posts time after time is unlikely to make it more interesting.
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The Mirror's Paul Routledge follows Farage on the election trail as he visits Merthyr Tydfil in South Wales
This is Nye Bevan and Michael Foot country. Keir Hardie came here to light the flame of socialism more than a century ago.
These Labour-loyal Welsh valleys took radical American singer Paul Robeson to their hearts.
But could they possibly become the political killing fields for Nigel Farage next week? He thinks they can. He aims to “smash the establishment”.
After a rapturous reception in Yorkshire mining towns, the Brexit leader took his message to former coal and steel communities of South Wales.
Alighting from his blue and white battle (or is that bottle?) bus, the Brexit party leader was mobbed in the High Street of Merthyr Tydfil – but by the media not local people. His message was greeted with as many insults as cheers.
The walkabout came to a halt outside the town’s Wetherspoons – Y Dic Penderyn – named after the martyred leader of the Merthyr Rising of 1831. Farage never went inside, which must be a first.
On this spot, the Red Flag was raised for the first time in the UK in a revolt of the downtrodden 188 years ago. “You’re not welcome here!” shouted musician Stephen Williams, 41, organiser of celebrations for an anniversary event. His friends used language not suitable for a family newspaper.
But at the same time there were a good few cheered greetings from windows of “Good luck, Nigel”.
Farage also had a good reception in the vape shop. He admitted trying e-cigs “but they made me cough.”
Merthyr has benefited enormously from EU funding, the second-most in Wales. New landscaped spaces, a college, social enterprises and even a Institute for the Blind.
Yet the constituency voted 56-44% Leave in the referendum three years ago. Only a rash punter would bet that they won’t vote Brexit on Thursday.
Canvassing on the Gurnos estate suggests a big swing from Labour to “Out Now!” A common theme was disillusion with Labour.
A 76-year- old charity shop worker, who had driven three hours from North Wales to see his hero said: “I’ve always voted Labour, but all I want to do is get Brexit through. I’ll vote for that again and again until it goes through, hopefully.”
Another, told me: “I voted for Corbyn because he said he would listen to the people. But he hasn’t, has he? That’s why I’m here.” Both declined to give their names.
Farage sees himself as a latter-day Hardie: a man who broke the mould of British politics. On stage, he even compared himself to the socialist pioneer at an evening rally in the car park of Trago Mills, an out-of-town cut-price emporium run by a Brexit supporter.
Seats were advertised at £2.50 a time (bring own chair). But the audience wasn’t quite up to expectations, and tickets were abandoned. Hundreds of placards were left uncollected.
But it was more successful than his town-centre me-me-talkabout. Several hundred people, mostly middle aged or older but with a fair sprinkling of young ’uns, turned up for a show that was part panto, part hate-fest and part pop-festival.
Loud music, big-screen videos, ooohing of Brexiteers, booing of Labour, the Tories, civil servants, Anna Soubry, and the rest of the stage villains preceded Farage’s familiar rhetoric.
He lashed out at a couple of dozen Remain protesters and accused Theresa May of building a coalition against the people. “We will not stand for it,” he bellowed.
Farage is loud about Leave and Tory/Labour “betrayal”, but silent about the big issues that affect the people he claims adore him.
The NHS? “I am not going to play that game.” Policies on housing, taxes – anything: “I’ll tell you after the election.”
This must be the first time a leader has refused to reveal his plans until after the votes are in. Farage is blasé. “This election is about Brexit, not manifestos,” he said.
“I will never, ever have a manifesto. Manifesto equals lies.”
Local MP Gerald Jones, a shadow defence minister with a 16,000 majority, told the Mirror: “What we want is an end to Tory austerity, an end to in work-poverty and investment in vital public services – not a simple solution to complex problems.
“If Nigel Farage cared about working class communities like those in the Welsh valleys, he would not be pushing for a catastrophic no-deal Brexit.”
When the moment came, I asked Farage: “What is your message to Mirror readers?” He said Remainers could vote Labour. But for Labour leavers, he said the MEP list system “is not for you.”
Eh? Where is his slick slogan “Tell Them Again”! He said: “We have a credible offer – that’s one of the reasons we have left of centre candidates as well.”
Not the stuff to give the troops for a second Rising, Mr Mini-Trump. Maybe he’s too smart to let the venom show.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/nigel-farage-rolls-labour-country-16157779
The leadership candidate is said to connect with people emotionally. But his only genuine emotion is self-love
I wouldn’t kiss you if you were the last man on Earth!” It’s one of the great cliches of romance novels that any woman saying this will, in due course, be doing just that. Maybe it’ll be a hate-kiss in the hayloft above the stables; maybe it’ll be a momentary lapse just after he’s rescued her from a predatory ranch hand. But you can absolutely bet on it: she’s going to be “sharing herself” with this man within 100 pages. The Tory parliamentary party’s relationship with Boris Johnson is the hardcore **** version of this.
For so long, you couldn’t move for Conservative MPs saying they’d leave the party if Johnson ever became leader, that they wouldn’t vote for him in a million years, that he didn’t have a chance of getting anywhere near their special place. One hundred pages deeper into the shitshow, where are we on these holdouts?
Is he even possibly going to be our next prime minster, then? Boris Johnson? This **** Eye “before” photo, this offbrand Flashheart, this radioactive haystack, this Frankenstein assemblage of all the rejected personality disorders of the minor Greek gods? Oh wait – this overpromoted journalist whose style philosophy is “sleeping in my car for a domestic misdemeanour”? According to what one experienced hand at the heart of government told the Spectator’s James Forsyth this week, “The only person who can stop Boris is Boris.” Right – just like how Mike Tyson said his hardest opponent was always himself. In a way.
If Johnson’s is one of the two names that makes it past the parliamentary ballot, he is surely nailed on. Among the Tory party’s madly reactionary members, who lag about 30 years behind the rest of the country in every attitudinal survey, there is barely a blue rinse out there who doesn’t secretly fancy a knee-trembler with this winsomely naughty boy, 54. Sure, there will be a few Tory MPs who keep their word and decline to stick around in the event of Johnson winning – your Dominic Grieves (who’s already lost one confidence motion in his constituency), and perhaps your Nicholas Soameses. And we’ll come to how heartbreakingly brief that could render BoJo’s premiership in another column.
But in general, you should give as much credence to Tory MPs’ earlier expressions of principle as far as Johnson is concerned as you should have done to all the celebrities who said they would emigrate if Labour got into power in 1997, and to all the US stars who said they’d move to Canada if Donald Trump won the US presidency.
Well, weirdo Fleet Street convention demands I describe this as a family newspaper. So I can’t even begin to detail the stuff the Conservative party are probably going to do for Johnson – and, indeed, the stuff they’re going to let him do to them. But I can tell you that while he’s doing it, they will not be protesting, but instead moaning “DO ME UP THE WTO! PERVERT ME LIKE THE FACTS IN YOUR CHURCHILL BIOGRAPHY! IMPREGNATE ME WITH YOUR O-LEVEL LATIN!” The clear message you should be getting from “the party of business” is: buy shares in lube today.
Arguably the only person who could throw all these three men into sympathetic relief is Theresa May. In terms of political gifts, or horrifying lack thereof, May recalls the bit at the start of Edward Scissorhands where Edward’s inventor dies before he’s been able to fit his creation with hands. The kindest way to put it is to say that May has spent the past three years coming off as unfinished. Her attempts to reach out have been calamitous. To watch her at work for any length of time is to end up screaming, “Oh my God PLEASE – please! – just STOP TOUCHING THINGS.”
Still, you will note that May has been resigned again this week. Over the past few months, I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve seen her pictured in the classic back-of-the-car shot that’s supposed to indicate “taxi for the prime minister”. May feels like the only person to have resigned more than Farage – and yet she’s still there. We’re all still here, more’s the pity. The UK remains in toxic stasis, presided over by a necrotic government, but now with a gathering sense that much worse could be in the post.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/may/17/tory-boris-johnson-leadership-candidate
Theresa May's successor as prime minister should not call a general election until Brexit is completed, a cabinet minister has warned.
Health Secretary Matt Hancock said an early election risked losing to Labour and "killing Brexit altogether".
His comments come after cross-party talks aimed at breaking the impasse collapsed on Friday.
Meanwhile, a poll of Tory members for The Times puts Boris Johnson as the favourite to succeed Mrs May.
Mr Hancock told the Daily Telegraph it would be a "disaster" to call a general election before the UK had left the EU as "people don't want it".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48318678
Nigel Farage received £450,000 from the founder of pro-Brexit group Leave.EU in the year after the Brexit referendum.
Items paid for by Arron Banks included Mr Farage's London home, his car and trips to the US to meet Donald Trump.
A spokesman for Mr Banks confirmed the amount and what it had been used for,
Speaking at the launch of the Brexit party campaign in Scotland, Mr Farage said he did not declare it to the European Parliament because he was about to leave politics and had been seeking a new life in the US.
When campaigning in Dudley, West Midlands, Mr Farage was asked if he had received £450,000 from Mr Banks and said "unfortunately not", adding that if he had, "it would be lovely".
The Leave.EU founder said he had "willingly helped Farage and was honoured to do so", adding: "This was all designed to help Nigel get out of politics."
A spokesman for the European Parliament said that MEPs have to declare any spending linked to political activity that is paid for by third parties.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48315552
Is it like , feeling the need to shout to make your point ? Is that what it is ?
I assume you are referring to the second article regarding Nigels funding by AAron Banks, to the tune of £450,000, which paid his rent, bought his car, paid his driver, and bought his crockery, shower curtain etc.
It is my opinion that you don't read very much of what is posted, including posts of your own.
Below are some extracts from the first article that I posted.
Farage refused to comment on the claims while Banks dismissed them as a “smear”
During this period, as well as his MEP’s salary of nearly €9,000 a month, and an extra €30,000 a month declared in media appearances, Farage complained in an interview that he was “53, separated and skint” and that “there’s no money in politics”.
At the time, critics noted that this appeared an unusual claim, given he was then living in the Chelsea home, which is valued at about £4m.
A Channel 4 News reporter approached Farage in Merthyr Tydfil on Wednesday to ask him about the alleged funding by Banks, with Farage saying he had no comment.
Banks told the programme: “Channel 4 attempts to smear myself and Nigel
However the second article is similar, but headlined,
Leave.EU founder confirms he funded Nigel Farage in year after referendum
And continues.
A spokesman for Mr Banks confirmed the amount and what it had been used for,
Speaking at the launch of the Brexit party campaign in Scotland, Mr Farage said he did not declare it to the European Parliament because he was about to leave politics and had been seeking a new life in the US.
When campaigning in Dudley, West Midlands, Mr Farage was asked if he had received £450,000 from Mr Banks and said "unfortunately not", adding that if he had, "it would be lovely".
The Leave.EU founder said he had "willingly helped Farage and was honoured to do so", adding: "This was all designed to help Nigel get out of politics."
A spokesman for the European Parliament said that MEPs have to declare any spending linked to political activity that is paid for by third parties.
So by the time the second article was published this story was no longer a smear as far as Mr Banks was concerned.
Nigel adopts a peculiar position whereby he seemingly admits to not reporting the income to the EU, using a bogus excuse, when it clearly should have been reported.
Whilst at the same time denying he received the money.
Conclusive proof that Nigel and the truth are strangers.
Had you read them, you would have realised that there were clear differences.
This is a result of the fact that you are only interested in anything that is pro Farage.
Try to keep up, because explaining stuff to you is time consuming.
Do you think that if you don't post something on both threads people might miss it ?
You just made exactly the same post twice in 20 minutes on the other thread. So I assume that you can answer any questions on multiple postings for yourself.
So whilst you accuse me of posting stuff which I might think is applicable to two different threads, which seems logical, and must make sense to you, because you have done it, numerous times, you are posting exactly the seem stuff on the same thread within 20 minutes.
Perhaps you can explain that one?
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Democracy only works if the losers accept the result. Our ambition is much bigger than Brexit. We want to transform the political landscape and sweep aside the two-party system.
Explanation quite simple , because I wanted the post to be the last one visible on the thread .
Now I appreciate that it will be difficult for you to rationalise why you actually do most of the things you do and say the things you say , but I will try again .
Why do you feel the necessity to duplicate posts on this thread and mine constantly ?
Perhaps you will also note the word " allegations" .
Nigel has said
1 He failed to report receiving it to the EU.
2 He didn't receive it.
I have discontinued reading the other thread, due to the lack of any interesting content.
So any insults you care post on it, that are directed at me, will be completely wasted.
Posting exactly the same posts time after time is unlikely to make it more interesting.