Please explain to me the logic in posting everything twice ? Is it like , feeling the need to shout to make your point ? Is that what it is ?
I have no intention of explaining anything to you.
Thought so
Ok, you persuaded me.
I assume you are referring to the second article regarding Nigels funding by AAron Banks, to the tune of £450,000, which paid his rent, bought his car, paid his driver, and bought his crockery, shower curtain etc.
It is my opinion that you don't read very much of what is posted, including posts of your own.
Below are some extracts from the first article that I posted.
Farage refused to comment on the claims while Banks dismissed them as a “smear”
During this period, as well as his MEP’s salary of nearly €9,000 a month, and an extra €30,000 a month declared in media appearances, Farage complained in an interview that he was “53, separated and skint” and that “there’s no money in politics”. At the time, critics noted that this appeared an unusual claim, given he was then living in the Chelsea home, which is valued at about £4m.
A Channel 4 News reporter approached Farage in Merthyr Tydfil on Wednesday to ask him about the alleged funding by Banks, with Farage saying he had no comment.
Banks told the programme: “Channel 4 attempts to smear myself and Nigel
However the second article is similar, but headlined,
Leave.EU founder confirms he funded Nigel Farage in year after referendum
And continues.
A spokesman for Mr Banks confirmed the amount and what it had been used for,
Speaking at the launch of the Brexit party campaign in Scotland, Mr Farage said he did not declare it to the European Parliament because he was about to leave politics and had been seeking a new life in the US.
When campaigning in Dudley, West Midlands, Mr Farage was asked if he had received £450,000 from Mr Banks and said "unfortunately not", adding that if he had, "it would be lovely".
The Leave.EU founder said he had "willingly helped Farage and was honoured to do so", adding: "This was all designed to help Nigel get out of politics."
A spokesman for the European Parliament said that MEPs have to declare any spending linked to political activity that is paid for by third parties.
So by the time the second article was published this story was no longer a smear as far as Mr Banks was concerned.
Nigel adopts a peculiar position whereby he seemingly admits to not reporting the income to the EU, using a bogus excuse, when it clearly should have been reported.
Whilst at the same time denying he received the money.
Conclusive proof that Nigel and the truth are strangers.
Had you read them, you would have realised that there were clear differences.
This is a result of the fact that you are only interested in anything that is pro Farage.
Try to keep up, because explaining stuff to you is time consuming.
The fact remains , that you consistently post the same articles on this nonsense of a thread and then on mine . What would be your rationale for doing that ? Why would you feel the need to post the same article on 2 different threads ? Do you think that if you don't post something on both threads people might miss it ?
I think you might find a number of Brexit Party Rally posts on this thread.
Perhaps you would like to answer the questions.
You just made exactly the same post twice in 20 minutes on the other thread. So I assume that you can answer any questions on multiple postings for yourself.
So whilst you accuse me of posting stuff which I might think is applicable to two different threads, which seems logical, and must make sense to you, because you have done it, numerous times, you are posting exactly the seem stuff on the same thread within 20 minutes.
@Nigel_Farage Follow Follow @Nigel_Farage More Democracy only works if the losers accept the result. Our ambition is much bigger than Brexit. We want to transform the political landscape and sweep aside the two-party system.
@Nigel_Farage Follow Follow @Nigel_Farage More Democracy only works if the losers accept the result. Our ambition is much bigger than Brexit. We want to transform the political landscape and sweep aside the two-party system.
Quite right , I did. Explanation quite simple , because I wanted the post to be the last one visible on the thread . Now I appreciate that it will be difficult for you to rationalise why you actually do most of the things you do and say the things you say , but I will try again . Why do you feel the necessity to duplicate posts on this thread and mine constantly ?
Please explain to me the logic in posting everything twice ? Is it like , feeling the need to shout to make your point ? Is that what it is ?
I thought you might have come up with at least an attempt to defend Nigel over these financial allegations, and his bare faced lying, rather your usual concentration on nit picking
He's denied it ...and it is now up to C4 to provide the evidence ( saying you have seen the evidence isn't proving it ) Perhaps you will also note the word " allegations" .
Try actually reading the articles, and it will allow you to make more insightful posts.
Please explain to me the logic in posting everything twice ? Is it like , feeling the need to shout to make your point ? Is that what it is ?
I thought you might have come up with at least an attempt to defend Nigel over these financial allegations, and his bare faced lying, rather your usual concentration on nit picking
He's denied it ...and it is now up to C4 to provide the evidence ( saying you have seen the evidence isn't proving it ) Perhaps you will also note the word " allegations" .
Arron Banks gave '£450,000 funding to Nigel Farage after Brexit vote' Tycoon provided Farage with Chelsea home, car and money to promote him in US,
Arron Banks 'spent £450,000 on Nigel Farage in year after Brexit vote - providing him with £4.4m Chelsea home, £32,000 Land Rover Discovery, close protection driver, furniture and even utility bills'
Arron Banks ‘bankrolled Nigel Farage’s lavish lifestyle with £450,000 funding’, investigation finds Ex-Ukip ally paid for £4.4m rented London home, a luxury car, a bodyguard, a private office and trips to the United States,
Millionaire Arron Banks ‘spent £450,000 bankrolling Nigel Farage’s lavish lifestyle’ Farage's friend 'paid for rent on a Chelsea home, use of a Land Rover Discovery and a Westminster office'
That's fine , I completely understand why you are unwilling to answer the question . Just building up a picture here .
I will continue to post anything that I think is valid to any thread, on that particular thread, whoever it belongs to. I have discontinued reading the other thread, due to the lack of any interesting content. So any insults you care post on it, that are directed at me, will be completely wasted.
Posting exactly the same posts time after time is unlikely to make it more interesting.
McDonald's asked not to sell milkshakes during Farage rally
Police asked a McDonald's in Edinburgh not to sell ice cream or milkshakes during a rally run by Nigel Farage. As hundreds of Brexit Party supporters joined a rally led by Mr Farage at Edinburgh's Corn Exchange, the nearby branch of the fast food chain avoided selling the products - to prevent a repeat of recent dairy-based attacks.
It comes after far-right figures including Tommy Robinson and Carl Benjamin have had food and drink thrown at them as they campaign. The former English Defence League leader, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, has been hit by milkshakes twice in two days while on the campaign trail in the north of England.
That's fine , I completely understand why you are unwilling to answer the question . Just building up a picture here .
I will continue to post anything that I think is valid to any thread, on that particular thread, whoever it belongs to. I have discontinued reading the other thread, due to the lack of any interesting content. So any insults you care post on it, that are directed at me, will be completely wasted.
Posting exactly the same posts time after time is unlikely to make it more interesting.
re posting the same old **** on multiple threads is unlikely to make your point either , in fact , it will make people think you have an obsession ....food for thought eh
Brexit: Referendum should be included in withdrawal agreement bill, Labour says
Theresa May has been urged to include a confirmatory referendum on the face of a critical Brexit bill in an attempt to break the Commons logjam. Shadow Brexit secretary Sir Keir Starmer made the plea as cross-party talks between Labour and the government collapsed on Friday without an agreement, with both sides engaging in bitter recriminations over where to place blame. The prime minister is now expected to plough ahead with a vote on the Withdrawal Agreement Bill - or "WAB" - in the first week of June in what could be her last major move as prime minister.
But without Labour's support, and a hardline faction of her own MPs opposed to her plans, many in Westminster believe the bill is heading for a crushing rejection in two weeks' time. Speaking on Saturday, the shadow Brexit secretary - a key figure in the cross-party talks with the government - also claimed the prime minister had gone sour on the prospect of "indicative votes" on a different Brexit options. "They could seek to break the impasse by putting a confirmatory vote on the face of the bill," he told BBC Radio 4's Today programme. "Whatever happens, they have to find a way of breaking the impasse."
He continued: "What we can't do is just keep on buying another week at a time, which is what the prime minister has been doing for months." Echoing Mr Corbyn's remarks on Friday, the shadow Brexit secretary claimed efforts to find a positive resolution in the cross-party talks had been scuppered by government ministers not involved in the negotiations, manoeuvring for the keys to Downing Street. "The prime minister said before we started the talks she would be going," he said.
"It did mean that during the talks, almost literally as we were sitting in the room talking, cabinet members and wannabe Tory leaders were torpedoing the talks with remarks about not willing to accept a customs union." But Sir Keir's comments came as Ms May blamed Labour's own divisions over whether to demand a fresh Brexit referendum for the collapse in the cross-party talks, as government sources placed blame with the pro-referendum shadow Brexit secretary. Launching the Conservative's European election campaign - six days before the public heads to the polls - Ms May said: "In particular, we haven't been able to overcome the fact that there isn't a common position in Labour about whether they want to deliver Brexit, or hold a second referendum which could reverse it."
And the Brexit secretary Stephen Barclay also pinned the blame on Labour over the party's internal fighting over a fresh public vote. But he said this week that if the Withdrawal Agreement Bill is defeated, the deal thrashed out with the EU would be "dead" and the UK would be left with the options of no deal or no Brexit on October 31. Speaking during a visit to a cement works on the border with Ireland in Derrylin, County Fermanagh, Mr Barclay acknowledged the disruption a no-deal scenario would cause but it was better than cancelling Brexit. "I think both options are undesirable but I think on no-deal we would have to do all we can to mitigate the disruption - there would be disruption and I have always been quite candid about that, which is why I think a deal is what we should be backing." But revoking Article 50 and "the biggest vote in our history" would cause damage to democracy, while another referendum would mean a further year of uncertainty for business. "The damage if we were to go back on our vote would be huge," he said.
And it's now "high time we deliver". So says Theresa May in an article in The Sunday Times, adding that she still believes there's a majority in Parliament to be won for leaving the EU with a deal. Mrs May insists that when she makes a final attempt to get her Brexit plan through parliament next month, MPs won't just be told "to think again" but will be asked to look at a "new, improved deal, with a fresh pair of eyes". According to the Observer, this latest offer will include changes demanded by Labour, the DUP, and rebel Tory MPs. But a Matt cartoon in the Sunday Telegraph appears sceptical about how much will change. It shows a banner being unveiled outside Parliament, with the slogan: "PM's Brexit deal - back despite popular demand!"
The Independent reports that Nigel Farage could face an investigation by European Parliament officials over claims that he failed to declare nearly half a million pounds in gifts from insurance tycoon Arron Banks. The Brexit Party leader has insisted that any donation was made after the EU referendum, when he was planning to leave politics, and was a purely private matter. But the paper says Mr Farage remained an MEP - meaning the gifts would "likely have had to be declared" under transparency rules. European elections With just days to go before the European elections, The Sunday Times says a populist surge has seen support for the two main parties fall to "historic lows". Writing in the paper, Lord Heseltine reveals he will back the Liberal Democrats on Thursday - the first time he will have cast his vote for a party other than the Conservatives. The Tory peer, who wants a second referendum, accuses the Conservatives of being "infected by a virus" - and says they risk descending "deeper into darkness" over Brexit
The Observer describes what it calls "a desperate battle" by senior Labour figures to shore up their own support. Labour MP Neil Coyle says the party will be punished for appearing to face both ways on Brexit - telling the paper Jeremy Corbyn has "breathed life back into the Lib Dem carcass" with his approach to leaving the EU. In the paper, Andrew Rawnsley mourns the loss of a political middle ground - warning that the chances of this concluding with no Brexit, or a no-deal Brexit, are rising sharply. A cartoon in The Sunday Times shows two spectators at the Eurovision Song Contest, watching members of the same band trading blows on stage. "That will be the United Kingdom entry," one tells the other. 'Witch-hunts' The Sunday Telegraph leads with a suggestion that Theresa May personally blocked ministers from putting forward legislation which could have protected former soldiers from prosecution for alleged offences during the Troubles in Northern Ireland. It has seen a memo, sent on Mrs May's behalf, which states that veterans should be offered "equal, rather than preferential treatment" relative to other groups affected by a consultation dealing with the legacy of the conflict.The Sunday Express demands an end to what it calls "witch-hunts" against former soldiers - saying they should finally be given the peace of mind they deserve.
Brexit 'will arrive in May 2020 at the earliest' due to Tory leadership bid EXCLUSIVE: UK's exit from the EU is on hold for at least a year as Brussels gears up to offer another six-month extension after October
European parliamentary elections 2019 Labour panics as remain voters switch to Liberal Democrats Polls makes Vince Cable’s party the favourite for remainers and puts it in first place in London
Senior Labour figures were engaged in a desperate battle to shore up the party’s support on Saturday night, amid warnings that its stance on Brexit was helping to “detoxify the Lib Dems”. With just days left before the European elections at which Nigel Farage’s Brexit party is expected to triumph, shadow cabinet ministers are among those concerned that Labour’s ambiguous position on Brexit has helped revive the Lib Dems. It comes as new polling seen by the Observer suggests Vince Cable’s party is running in first place in London and could even beat Labour overall.
Nigel Farage claims Leavers are the true democrats – this is why he’s wrong The legitimacy of the initial result is fatally undermined by the unlawful means used to reach it. Democracy can only be restored through a second, fair referendum
Parliament’s inability to agree a withdrawal deal meant the UK did not leave the EU on 29 March. Theresa May’s government confirmed a new target date of 31 October with Brussels. This gives fresh hope to those wanting Brexit softened, if not cancelled, as progress remains stalled. This is more of a trick than a treat for Leavers. Delaying Brexit is seen as a denial of democracy. The problem is no longer reasserting Britain’s sovereignty, but defending our democratic politics. To oppose Brexit is linked to being against democracy itself.
This link is the rocket fuel propelling Nigel Farage’s Brexit Party into pole position ahead of European elections within weeks of being formed. Clearly, this single issue campaign has resonated with many potential voters at the expense of other parties. The difference isn’t divided support among Remainers – as Leave voters have multiple options too – but the Brexit Party’s single minded push to make supporting Brexit a vote for democracy, thus appealing to something deeper in our British values.
Appealing to democracy is a strong, Trump-like card, but it is also the Brexit Party’s Achilles heel. Democracy matters in making political decisions legitimate. Democratic legitimacy goes hand in hand with the rule of law. One side wins over others in receiving the most votes, but not by any means. Each side must abide by the same standards to ensure the process is fair. Stuffing ballot boxes with fake voting cards is no more fair or acceptable than breaking campaign finance rules. When rules are broken in an election, defending the result regardless of what went wrong isn’t defending democracy but subverting it.
It matters crucially that the democratic process was put in danger during the referendum campaign. When one side cheats to win, it doesn’t deserve the trophy without a rematch. The Electoral Commission found electoral law was broken by Vote Leave and by Darren Grimes relating to a finding of joint working between the Vote Leave and BeLeave groups. They have since been referred to the Metropolitan Police. This isn’t about politicians misusing statistics on a bus – although Boris Johnson could be in court over his repeated £350m claim shortly. No, this is about breaking the rules to win.
Arguing a vote won unlawfully should be defended in the name of democracy makes a mockery of not only our democratic system, but other British values like fair play and the rule of law. That does not mean Brexit cannot or should not happen only that the referendum result doesn’t have the democratic legitimacy the Brexit Party claims.
Pro-Brexit voices are quick to remind voters that the main parties promised to honour the referendum outcome. They did. But this does not mean a Leave victory means any kind of Leave will do. Brexit campaigners promised options ranging from a Norway model to full single market access and beyond – sometimes saying both. This explains the confusion over what people really did want. Saying "Brexit means Brexit" was probably the only outcome different Leavers agreed. Many might say politics trumps prosperity given the growing support for no deal. This might speak to voter intentions now, but it’s easy to neglect the fact these supporters think economic warnings about Brexit are fake news. But while there is nothing illegitimate about voters choosing an option widely seen as against their self-interest and detrimental to their current living standards, whether or not people are wrong to think Brexit is best for Britain is not the point.
Our democracy is under threat from the Brexit result. The legitimacy of the result is undermined by the unlawful means used to reach it. Maybe voters will want Brexit in greater numbers, but they should be asked in a second referendum. But it must be clear that its point is not to give the public a second chance to fix its mistake, but to give the winning campaign side another opportunity to win by the rules rather than by breaking them. The sooner both sides in the Brexit debate see that a second vote is in their interests whether pro-Leave or pro-Remain, we have our best hope for breaking the current gridlock in parliament – and we stand up for the democracy we hold so dear. Failing to back a second vote is to say democracy only matters when you like the result and that would betray our British values altogether.
In my view people shouting about the will of the people, and betrayal of democracy, are just as useful as those continually preaching about no deal being better than a bad deal, Brexit means Brexit, taking back control, etc etc.
They have no solution.
We are currently heading towards a deadline in October.
If one of the 27 chooses to veto a further extension, then it will become a real deadline.
Should things continue as they are, Parliament will then be faced with a choice of no deal, or revoking Article 50.
How democratic would that be?
A choice of either a disaster or stopping Brexit, without the electorate having a say.
Whereas a confirmatory vote gives the electorate a final say on Brexit, and is therefore, surely democratic.
Another thing that really gets up my nose are the people that are still saying that taking no deal off the table was a mistake, and using analogies that are invalid, to back this up.
Clearly from day one, both sides were in favour of reaching a deal. No deal is a disaster for both sides. Neither side would have accepted a threat of no deal as being realistic. Do they think that the EU didn't didn't notice our politicians stating that we should retain a threat of no deal as a means to getting a better deal, in the media, on a daily basis.
This was in no way similar to a supermarket buyer threatening a supplier with no deal, if they couldn't provide them with superior terms.
The EU clearly aren't stupid.
The make up of MPs in Parliament is what it is. There is no majority in favour of any solution. No deal is a lie, as without a Withdrawal Agreement, there will be no trade full stop. What happens to Brits Living in Europe, and EU citizens living in the UK? They will take us to court to recover what we owe them. What happens to the Irish border?
Is a no deal even possible?
So, ruling out a confirmatory vote as undemocratic, merely rules in a less democratic solution?
The Guardian and the Mirror preview what they both describe as a "damning" report on the effect of austerity measures on family poverty in the UK. The study - by campaign group Human Rights Watch - concludes that benefit reforms and a freeze on welfare spending have left tens of thousands of households without enough to eat - putting the government in breach of its international obligation to prevent people going hungry. In one of the cities examined - Oxford - local schools had turned to food banks to feed malnourished pupils. Ministers say the report is misleading, and insist that families are being given the "best opportunity to move out of poverty".
A poll in The Times suggests more than half of Conservative party members want to scrap the HS2 high-speed rail line - as speculation grows that the next Tory prime minister could cancel the project. The paper says more than 20 senior figures in local government and business have written to the Treasury, warning that a failure to build HS2 would be a "disaster" for the economy in the Midlands and the north of England. Others have raised concerns that the scheme, which is due for completion in 2033, can't be delivered within its £56bn budget.
According to the Sun, one of Britain's most notorious criminals - Kenneth Noye - could be granted his freedom this week. Noye was jailed 19 years ago for murdering an electrician, Stephen Cameron, in a road-rage attack on the M25 - and has spent the last 18 months in an open prison in Kent. It is understood the 71-year-old will find out on Wednesday whether the Parole Board has approved his release. The victim's father, Ken Cameron, thinks he should remain behind bars. "Life should mean life", he says - "the only way Noye should be allowed out is in a wooden box". There are doubts about whether Theresa May will be able to deliver a "bold" new offer on Brexit when her deal returns to the Commons next month. The Telegraph - which has seen a five-page summary of her proposal - says it's neither bold nor new, and, crucially, retains the controversial "backstop" - the mechanism aimed at preventing a hard border between Northern Ireland and the Republic.
One of the proposed changes is to give Parliament a say in setting the objectives for future trade negotiations. But Conservative MP Sir Bill Cash - who has repeatedly voted against the prime minister's deal - is unimpressed. "This is pretty cosmetic stuff", he says. "It will not have any effect". The FT is equally sceptical - suggesting that Mrs May's promise of a "bold" deal "sounded more like an advert for a washing detergent than a convincing plan to end months of deadlock.
Street light strife The Guardian reports that 5G mobile services in the UK could be delayed by at least two years - because of a row about the control of lampposts. Network operators hope to install the transmitters needed to make 5G work on street lights across the country. But some local councils and landlords have been unwilling to grant access - mainly for financial reasons - and are facing the threat of legal action. A property lawyer tells the paper "more and more cases" are now clogging up the tribunals, so much so that new disputes won't be heard until next year at the earliest. The Daily Mail says a model railway club in Lincolnshire has received thousands of pounds of donations from around the world - after vandals destroyed every exhibit in the group's annual show. Four people arrested at the scene have been released on police bail.
'Wear sunglasses at night' The Telegraph reports on new Dutch research which claims that teenagers struggling to sleep should wear sunglasses in bed to filter out the blue light emitted from their phones and computers. Scientists in Amsterdam found that after just one week, adolescents wearing the glasses were less tired and able to concentrate more easily. The team plans to investigate whether adults would reap similar benefits.
He's Cor-byn busy! Labour leader visits Sikh temple then breaks fast at a mosque - after car-crash Andrew Marr interview where he refused SEVEN times to say if he backed Leave or Remain Corbyn went to Sri Guru Singh Sabha gurdwara in Southall after BBC interview He also attended Regents Park Mosque this morning where he broke the fast Mr Corbyn said second referendum should be an option after Parliament's vote Said Labour does not currently support legislation to implement withdrawal bill
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Just building up a picture here .
Arron Banks gave '£450,000 funding to Nigel Farage after Brexit vote'
Tycoon provided Farage with Chelsea home, car and money to promote him in US,
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/16/arron-banks-allegedly-gave-450000-funding-to-nigel-farage-after-brexit-vote
Arron Banks ‘bankrolled Nigel Farage’s lavish lifestyle with £450,000 funding’, investigation finds
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/arron-banks-bankrolled-nigel-farage-160000773.html
Leave.EU founder confirms he funded Nigel Farage in year after referendum
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48315552
Arron Banks gave '£450,000 funding to Nigel Farage after Brexit vote'
Tycoon provided Farage with Chelsea home, car and money
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/16/arron-banks-allegedly-gave-450000-funding-to-nigel-farage-after-brexit-vote
Arron Banks 'spent £450,000 on Nigel Farage in year after Brexit vote - providing him with £4.4m Chelsea home, £32,000 Land Rover Discovery, close protection driver, furniture and even utility bills'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7037651/Arron-Banks-spent-450k-Nigel-Farage-including-4-4m-home-Land-Rover-utility-bills.html
Arron Banks ‘bankrolled Nigel Farage’s lavish lifestyle with £450,000 funding’, investigation finds
Ex-Ukip ally paid for £4.4m rented London home, a luxury car, a bodyguard, a private office and trips to the United States,
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-brexit-party-arron-banks-salary-us-brexit-lifestyle-a8917281.html
Millionaire Arron Banks ‘spent £450,000 bankrolling Nigel Farage’s lavish lifestyle’
Farage's friend 'paid for rent on a Chelsea home, use of a Land Rover Discovery and a Westminster office'
https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/millionaire-arron-banks-spent-450000-bankrolling-nigel-farages-lavish-lifestyle/
I have discontinued reading the other thread, due to the lack of any interesting content.
So any insults you care post on it, that are directed at me, will be completely wasted.
Posting exactly the same posts time after time is unlikely to make it more interesting.
Police asked a McDonald's in Edinburgh not to sell ice cream or milkshakes during a rally run by Nigel Farage.
As hundreds of Brexit Party supporters joined a rally led by Mr Farage at Edinburgh's Corn Exchange, the nearby branch of the fast food chain avoided selling the products - to prevent a repeat of recent dairy-based attacks.
It comes after far-right figures including Tommy Robinson and Carl Benjamin have had food and drink thrown at them as they campaign.
The former English Defence League leader, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, has been hit by milkshakes twice in two days while on the campaign trail in the north of England.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/politics/mcdonalds-asked-not-to-sell-milkshakes-during-farage-rally/ar-AABybmS?ocid=spartandhp
Theresa May has been urged to include a confirmatory referendum on the face of a critical Brexit bill in an attempt to break the Commons logjam.
Shadow Brexit secretary Sir Keir Starmer made the plea as cross-party talks between Labour and the government collapsed on Friday without an agreement, with both sides engaging in bitter recriminations over where to place blame.
The prime minister is now expected to plough ahead with a vote on the Withdrawal Agreement Bill - or "WAB" - in the first week of June in what could be her last major move as prime minister.
But without Labour's support, and a hardline faction of her own MPs opposed to her plans, many in Westminster believe the bill is heading for a crushing rejection in two weeks' time.
Speaking on Saturday, the shadow Brexit secretary - a key figure in the cross-party talks with the government - also claimed the prime minister had gone sour on the prospect of "indicative votes" on a different Brexit options.
"They could seek to break the impasse by putting a confirmatory vote on the face of the bill," he told BBC Radio 4's Today programme. "Whatever happens, they have to find a way of breaking the impasse."
He continued: "What we can't do is just keep on buying another week at a time, which is what the prime minister has been doing for months."
Echoing Mr Corbyn's remarks on Friday, the shadow Brexit secretary claimed efforts to find a positive resolution in the cross-party talks had been scuppered by government ministers not involved in the negotiations, manoeuvring for the keys to Downing Street.
"The prime minister said before we started the talks she would be going," he said.
"It did mean that during the talks, almost literally as we were sitting in the room talking, cabinet members and wannabe Tory leaders were torpedoing the talks with remarks about not willing to accept a customs union."
But Sir Keir's comments came as Ms May blamed Labour's own divisions over whether to demand a fresh Brexit referendum for the collapse in the cross-party talks, as government sources placed blame with the pro-referendum shadow Brexit secretary.
Launching the Conservative's European election campaign - six days before the public heads to the polls - Ms May said: "In particular, we haven't been able to overcome the fact that there isn't a common position in Labour about whether they want to deliver Brexit, or hold a second referendum which could reverse it."
And the Brexit secretary Stephen Barclay also pinned the blame on Labour over the party's internal fighting over a fresh public vote.
But he said this week that if the Withdrawal Agreement Bill is defeated, the deal thrashed out with the EU would be "dead" and the UK would be left with the options of no deal or no Brexit on October 31.
Speaking during a visit to a cement works on the border with Ireland in Derrylin, County Fermanagh, Mr Barclay acknowledged the disruption a no-deal scenario would cause but it was better than cancelling Brexit.
"I think both options are undesirable but I think on no-deal we would have to do all we can to mitigate the disruption - there would be disruption and I have always been quite candid about that, which is why I think a deal is what we should be backing."
But revoking Article 50 and "the biggest vote in our history" would cause damage to democracy, while another referendum would mean a further year of uncertainty for business. "The damage if we were to go back on our vote would be huge," he said.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brexit/brexit-referendum-should-be-included-in-withdrawal-agreement-bill-labour-says/ar-AABxLsD?ocid=spartandhp
And it's now "high time we deliver". So says Theresa May in an article in The Sunday Times, adding that she still believes there's a majority in Parliament to be won for leaving the EU with a deal.
Mrs May insists that when she makes a final attempt to get her Brexit plan through parliament next month, MPs won't just be told "to think again" but will be asked to look at a "new, improved deal, with a fresh pair of eyes".
According to the Observer, this latest offer will include changes demanded by Labour, the DUP, and rebel Tory MPs. But a Matt cartoon in the Sunday Telegraph appears sceptical about how much will change. It shows a banner being unveiled outside Parliament, with the slogan: "PM's Brexit deal - back despite popular demand!"
The Independent reports that Nigel Farage could face an investigation by European Parliament officials over claims that he failed to declare nearly half a million pounds in gifts from insurance tycoon Arron Banks.
The Brexit Party leader has insisted that any donation was made after the EU referendum, when he was planning to leave politics, and was a purely private matter. But the paper says Mr Farage remained an MEP - meaning the gifts would "likely have had to be declared" under transparency rules.
European elections
With just days to go before the European elections, The Sunday Times says a populist surge has seen support for the two main parties fall to "historic lows".
Writing in the paper, Lord Heseltine reveals he will back the Liberal Democrats on Thursday - the first time he will have cast his vote for a party other than the Conservatives.
The Tory peer, who wants a second referendum, accuses the Conservatives of being "infected by a virus" - and says they risk descending "deeper into darkness" over Brexit
The Observer describes what it calls "a desperate battle" by senior Labour figures to shore up their own support. Labour MP Neil Coyle says the party will be punished for appearing to face both ways on Brexit - telling the paper Jeremy Corbyn has "breathed life back into the Lib Dem carcass" with his approach to leaving the EU.
In the paper, Andrew Rawnsley mourns the loss of a political middle ground - warning that the chances of this concluding with no Brexit, or a no-deal Brexit, are rising sharply.
A cartoon in The Sunday Times shows two spectators at the Eurovision Song Contest, watching members of the same band trading blows on stage. "That will be the United Kingdom entry," one tells the other.
'Witch-hunts'
The Sunday Telegraph leads with a suggestion that Theresa May personally blocked ministers from putting forward legislation which could have protected former soldiers from prosecution for alleged offences during the Troubles in Northern Ireland.
It has seen a memo, sent on Mrs May's behalf, which states that veterans should be offered "equal, rather than preferential treatment" relative to other groups affected by a consultation dealing with the legacy of the conflict.The Sunday Express demands an end to what it calls "witch-hunts" against former soldiers - saying they should finally be given the peace of mind they deserve.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-48324491
EXCLUSIVE: UK's exit from the EU is on hold for at least a year as Brussels gears up to offer another six-month extension after October
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/brexit-will-arrive-2020-earliest-16166320
Labour panics as remain voters switch to Liberal Democrats
Polls makes Vince Cable’s party the favourite for remainers and puts it in first place in London
Senior Labour figures were engaged in a desperate battle to shore up the party’s support on Saturday night, amid warnings that its stance on Brexit was helping to “detoxify the Lib Dems”.
With just days left before the European elections at which Nigel Farage’s Brexit party is expected to triumph, shadow cabinet ministers are among those concerned that Labour’s ambiguous position on Brexit has helped revive the Lib Dems. It comes as new polling seen by the Observer suggests Vince Cable’s party is running in first place in London and could even beat Labour overall.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/18/labour-panic-remain-voters-switch-to-lib-dems
The legitimacy of the initial result is fatally undermined by the unlawful means used to reach it. Democracy can only be restored through a second, fair referendum
Parliament’s inability to agree a withdrawal deal meant the UK did not leave the EU on 29 March. Theresa May’s government confirmed a new target date of 31 October with Brussels. This gives fresh hope to those wanting Brexit softened, if not cancelled, as progress remains stalled.
This is more of a trick than a treat for Leavers. Delaying Brexit is seen as a denial of democracy. The problem is no longer reasserting Britain’s sovereignty, but defending our democratic politics. To oppose Brexit is linked to being against democracy itself.
This link is the rocket fuel propelling Nigel Farage’s Brexit Party into pole position ahead of European elections within weeks of being formed. Clearly, this single issue campaign has resonated with many potential voters at the expense of other parties. The difference isn’t divided support among Remainers – as Leave voters have multiple options too – but the Brexit Party’s single minded push to make supporting Brexit a vote for democracy, thus appealing to something deeper in our British values.
Appealing to democracy is a strong, Trump-like card, but it is also the Brexit Party’s Achilles heel. Democracy matters in making political decisions legitimate. Democratic legitimacy goes hand in hand with the rule of law. One side wins over others in receiving the most votes, but not by any means. Each side must abide by the same standards to ensure the process is fair. Stuffing ballot boxes with fake voting cards is no more fair or acceptable than breaking campaign finance rules. When rules are broken in an election, defending the result regardless of what went wrong isn’t defending democracy but subverting it.
It matters crucially that the democratic process was put in danger during the referendum campaign. When one side cheats to win, it doesn’t deserve the trophy without a rematch. The Electoral Commission found electoral law was broken by Vote Leave and by Darren Grimes relating to a finding of joint working between the Vote Leave and BeLeave groups. They have since been referred to the Metropolitan Police. This isn’t about politicians misusing statistics on a bus – although Boris Johnson could be in court over his repeated £350m claim shortly. No, this is about breaking the rules to win.
Arguing a vote won unlawfully should be defended in the name of democracy makes a mockery of not only our democratic system, but other British values like fair play and the rule of law. That does not mean Brexit cannot or should not happen only that the referendum result doesn’t have the democratic legitimacy the Brexit Party claims.
Pro-Brexit voices are quick to remind voters that the main parties promised to honour the referendum outcome. They did. But this does not mean a Leave victory means any kind of Leave will do. Brexit campaigners promised options ranging from a Norway model to full single market access and beyond – sometimes saying both. This explains the confusion over what people really did want. Saying "Brexit means Brexit" was probably the only outcome different Leavers agreed.
Many might say politics trumps prosperity given the growing support for no deal. This might speak to voter intentions now, but it’s easy to neglect the fact these supporters think economic warnings about Brexit are fake news. But while there is nothing illegitimate about voters choosing an option widely seen as against their self-interest and detrimental to their current living standards, whether or not people are wrong to think Brexit is best for Britain is not the point.
Our democracy is under threat from the Brexit result. The legitimacy of the result is undermined by the unlawful means used to reach it. Maybe voters will want Brexit in greater numbers, but they should be asked in a second referendum. But it must be clear that its point is not to give the public a second chance to fix its mistake, but to give the winning campaign side another opportunity to win by the rules rather than by breaking them.
The sooner both sides in the Brexit debate see that a second vote is in their interests whether pro-Leave or pro-Remain, we have our best hope for breaking the current gridlock in parliament – and we stand up for the democracy we hold so dear. Failing to back a second vote is to say democracy only matters when you like the result and that would betray our British values altogether.
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/nigel-farage-the-brexit-party-leave-electoral-commission-darren-grimes-a8920086.html
They have no solution.
We are currently heading towards a deadline in October.
If one of the 27 chooses to veto a further extension, then it will become a real deadline.
Should things continue as they are, Parliament will then be faced with a choice of no deal, or revoking Article 50.
How democratic would that be?
A choice of either a disaster or stopping Brexit, without the electorate having a say.
Whereas a confirmatory vote gives the electorate a final say on Brexit, and is therefore, surely democratic.
Another thing that really gets up my nose are the people that are still saying that taking no deal off the table was a mistake, and using analogies that are invalid, to back this up.
Clearly from day one, both sides were in favour of reaching a deal. No deal is a disaster for both sides. Neither side would have accepted a threat of no deal as being realistic. Do they think that the EU didn't didn't notice our politicians stating that we should retain a threat of no deal as a means to getting a better deal, in the media, on a daily basis.
This was in no way similar to a supermarket buyer threatening a supplier with no deal, if they couldn't provide them with superior terms.
The EU clearly aren't stupid.
The make up of MPs in Parliament is what it is. There is no majority in favour of any solution. No deal is a lie, as without a Withdrawal Agreement, there will be no trade full stop. What happens to Brits Living in Europe, and EU citizens living in the UK? They will take us to court to recover what we owe them. What happens to the Irish border?
Is a no deal even possible?
So, ruling out a confirmatory vote as undemocratic, merely rules in a less democratic solution?
The Guardian and the Mirror preview what they both describe as a "damning" report on the effect of austerity measures on family poverty in the UK.
The study - by campaign group Human Rights Watch - concludes that benefit reforms and a freeze on welfare spending have left tens of thousands of households without enough to eat - putting the government in breach of its international obligation to prevent people going hungry.
In one of the cities examined - Oxford - local schools had turned to food banks to feed malnourished pupils. Ministers say the report is misleading, and insist that families are being given the "best opportunity to move out of poverty".
A poll in The Times suggests more than half of Conservative party members want to scrap the HS2 high-speed rail line - as speculation grows that the next Tory prime minister could cancel the project.
The paper says more than 20 senior figures in local government and business have written to the Treasury, warning that a failure to build HS2 would be a "disaster" for the economy in the Midlands and the north of England.
Others have raised concerns that the scheme, which is due for completion in 2033, can't be delivered within its £56bn budget.
According to the Sun, one of Britain's most notorious criminals - Kenneth Noye - could be granted his freedom this week.
Noye was jailed 19 years ago for murdering an electrician, Stephen Cameron, in a road-rage attack on the M25 - and has spent the last 18 months in an open prison in Kent.
It is understood the 71-year-old will find out on Wednesday whether the Parole Board has approved his release. The victim's father, Ken Cameron, thinks he should remain behind bars. "Life should mean life", he says - "the only way Noye should be allowed out is in a wooden box".
There are doubts about whether Theresa May will be able to deliver a "bold" new offer on Brexit when her deal returns to the Commons next month. The Telegraph - which has seen a five-page summary of her proposal - says it's neither bold nor new, and, crucially, retains the controversial "backstop" - the mechanism aimed at preventing a hard border between Northern Ireland and the Republic.
One of the proposed changes is to give Parliament a say in setting the objectives for future trade negotiations.
But Conservative MP Sir Bill Cash - who has repeatedly voted against the prime minister's deal - is unimpressed. "This is pretty cosmetic stuff", he says. "It will not have any effect".
The FT is equally sceptical - suggesting that Mrs May's promise of a "bold" deal "sounded more like an advert for a washing detergent than a convincing plan to end months of deadlock.
Street light strife
The Guardian reports that 5G mobile services in the UK could be delayed by at least two years - because of a row about the control of lampposts.
Network operators hope to install the transmitters needed to make 5G work on street lights across the country. But some local councils and landlords have been unwilling to grant access - mainly for financial reasons - and are facing the threat of legal action.
A property lawyer tells the paper "more and more cases" are now clogging up the tribunals, so much so that new disputes won't be heard until next year at the earliest.
The Daily Mail says a model railway club in Lincolnshire has received thousands of pounds of donations from around the world - after vandals destroyed every exhibit in the group's annual show. Four people arrested at the scene have been released on police bail.
'Wear sunglasses at night'
The Telegraph reports on new Dutch research which claims that teenagers struggling to sleep should wear sunglasses in bed to filter out the blue light emitted from their phones and computers.
Scientists in Amsterdam found that after just one week, adolescents wearing the glasses were less tired and able to concentrate more easily. The team plans to investigate whether adults would reap similar benefits.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-48330901
He's Cor-byn busy! Labour leader visits Sikh temple then breaks fast at a mosque - after car-crash Andrew Marr interview where he refused SEVEN times to say if he backed Leave or Remain
Corbyn went to Sri Guru Singh Sabha gurdwara in Southall after BBC interview
He also attended Regents Park Mosque this morning where he broke the fast
Mr Corbyn said second referendum should be an option after Parliament's vote
Said Labour does not currently support legislation to implement withdrawal bill
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7046371/Corbyn-says-second-Brexit-referendum-not-disastrous.html