I admire you for trying to educate Hardline brexiteers but you are wasting your time, they just dont like Europe and any sane argument goes over their heads I'm afraid. Like you I am a pensioner so hopefully wont affect me too much but worried for my kids and grandkids.
I'm astounded that a proud country which at one time ruled most of the world(harshly at times) and affected Europe in so many good ways, WW1 AND WW2 as recent examples wants to pull up the drawbridge, throw ourselves at the mercy of giants like China and USA and let the Germans and French run Europe. History has shown they dont make a very good job of it.
The problem is we surrendered to them when we started to elect MEPS who had no interest in making the EU better and our place stronger in it. ie UKIP and now we compound it by electing BREXIT MEPS.
Watch them walk away if they win and watch the country go to the dogs. Why ?
The people we elect to our governments have been **** for 40 years or so, all careerists with no vision. They will still be there , with more power than ever and BREXITEERS WANT THEM.
And as to Brexiteers well this thread has shown they dont know what the future will hold, what Brexit will really mean and any advantages it will bring , other than WE WONT BE GOVERNED BY EUROPE. Well we never have been .
Just noticed there is some good news for NO DEAL Brexiteers, the EU will allow us to continue to let us use Galileo satellite system for civil matters. So they shouldnt be affected too much.
Pity that UK companies cant continue their good work in this field unless they move to EU with job losses here. Nevermind that we will now have to have our own system for military/security use. Pity it will cost £92million to develop and billions to put into affect .
and the nub of the problem
Is even if we manage to get our new system up and running ,
We have used or haven't got any more satellite space up there in the wide blue yonder so we will have to go cap in hand to countries who do.
Conservative leadership candidates are paraded on most front pages - but Michael Gove is the most prominent, following his admission that he took cocaine before he became an MP. The Sunday Mirror has a picture of six candidates who have admitted to having taken drugs in the past. "Race for PM goes to pot" is the headline. For the Mail on Sunday, the environment secretary's revelation throws the contest into high drama. It says it prompted a chorus of criticism from campaigners who highlighted how an "epidemic" of middle-class cocaine use is fuelling appalling gang violence and organised crime. The Observer quotes a former senior drug adviser to the government, Prof David Nutt, as saying Mr Gove's disclosure is more proof that privileged politicians feel able to "break the law, but not for others to do the same"
The Sunday Telegraph also features Mr Gove in its lead story, but focuses on his pledge to look to replace VAT with a "lower, simpler" alternative and cut business rates. According to the paper, sources have also indicated that he would halt construction of the high-speed rail network, HS2, in order to review whether it represents value for money. It says Mr Gove's intervention is likely to be seen as a dramatic attempt to shift attention from the cocaine revelation back to his policy plans. The policy plans of Mr Gove's leadership rival, Boris Johnson, make the lead for the Sunday Times. In an interview for the paper, Mr Johnson says he would "retain" the £39bn divorce payment demanded by Brussels until he gets a better deal. He says he would combine a tough line on Brexit with a full-throated return to One Nation Tory policies at home. Another of the candidates, Jeremy Hunt, is the subject of the lead in the Sunday Express. It says the foreign secretary has positioned himself as "the deal maker" who can deliver Brexit. He tells the paper that as an entrepreneur by background, he's done deals all his life.
Dominic Raab's Brexit plan is not just reckless, it's plain dumb Here is a man whose values and principles appear at odds with those of his fellow countrymen and women, but who will sacrifice anything on the altar of Brexit
What may be blindingly obvious to Bercow, may not be so to Raab, and this situation illustrates two things. First, it shows that Raab’s true loyalties are not to the wider Conservative party, but to the ERG who accuse EU institutions of being undemocratic whilst showing themselves willing to not just be undemocratic but autocratic.
Second, it highlights Raab’s rabid mindset, through which he will sacrifice anything on the altar of Brexit – even the sovereignty of parliament, which so many people who voted Leave were told they would get back if we left the EU.
So how can he even consider proroguing parliament to ensure there is no extension to Article 50 beyond 31 October when that would mean it would be impossible to pass any bills or the remaining secondary legislation needed to prepare our statute book for a no-deal outcome?
Things like guaranteeing the security of supply for people who need drugs to live – such as insulin-dependent diabetics, reliant on supplies from abroad.
Let me finish by reminding readers of some of Raab’s other views: “Feminists are now amongst the most obnoxious bigots.” And in a pamphlet for the Centre for Policy Studies he asserted that UK employment legislation represents a “straitjacket” for the economy, while proposing employers should be able to fire at will. He complains of “human rights running riot” and thinks workers’ rights should be changed to make it harder for them to go on strike. Here is a man whose values and principles appear to be dramatically at odds with those of most of his fellow countrymen and women, but alas only some 160,000 of them will be voting for him or any of the other Tory candidates. The rest of the UK population will just have to suffer the horrifying consequences.
I admire you for trying to educate Hardline brexiteers but you are wasting your time, they just dont like Europe and any sane argument goes over their heads I'm afraid. Like you I am a pensioner so hopefully wont affect me too much but worried for my kids and grandkids.
I'm astounded that a proud country which at one time ruled most of the world(harshly at times) and affected Europe in so many good ways, WW1 AND WW2 as recent examples wants to pull up the drawbridge, throw ourselves at the mercy of giants like China and USA and let the Germans and French run Europe. History has shown they dont make a very good job of it.
The problem is we surrendered to them when we started to elect MEPS who had no interest in making the EU better and our place stronger in it. ie UKIP and now we compound it by electing BREXIT MEPS.
Watch them walk away if they win and watch the country go to the dogs. Why ?
The people we elect to our governments have been **** for 40 years or so, all careerists with no vision. They will still be there , with more power than ever and BREXITEERS WANT THEM.
And as to Brexiteers well this thread has shown they dont know what the future will hold, what Brexit will really mean and any advantages it will bring , other than WE WONT BE GOVERNED BY EUROPE. Well we never have been .
GOD HELP US!!!!
A number of things have become blatantly obvious during the last 3 years.
Only a very small percentage of the electorate will feel they got what they voted for. Leave voters seem to find it almost impossible to iterate a single way in which their lives will improve post Brexit. We still want all the benefits of membership, after leaving, with none of the obligations? Leaving with no deal is not a real option. How could any sane person trust Trump, and prefer to replace EU trade with a US trade deal? Why would we wish to lower our food standards? Did we really vote in favour of tariffs, and increasing the cost of living to consumers? Are those that shout about democracy kidding themselves? Is there anything democratic about the fact that our next PM will be chosen by less than 0.2% of the electorate? Labours policy of constructive ambiguity has been anything but constructive. Labour claims of being the most democratic party are completely untrue. Political leadership is this country is nonexistent. The stop Boris campaign has evaporated, and become the elect Boris to counteract Farage campaign. The Government has done nothing to address the burning injustices, the austerity measures, and inequalities that Theresa Many has pointed out.
Just noticed there is some good news for NO DEAL Brexiteers, the EU will allow us to continue to let us use Galileo satellite system for civil matters. So they shouldnt be affected too much.
Pity that UK companies cant continue their good work in this field unless they move to EU with job losses here. Nevermind that we will now have to have our own system for military/security use. Pity it will cost £92million to develop and billions to put into affect .
and the nub of the problem
Is even if we manage to get our new system up and running ,
We have used or haven't got any more satellite space up there in the wide blue yonder so we will have to go cap in hand to countries who do.
Oh what fun.
Many leave voters have been critical of the EU, for merely not allowing us to having our cake, and eating it.
Yet in my view they have bent over backwards to help us to reach an agreement.
Most of the front pages are devoted to the Conservative party leadership contest. The Metro says eight of the 11 candidates have now admitted to using drugs in the past. The i talks of Michael Gove fighting back after his admission that he took cocaine, and of his key supporters remaining loyal. The Times believes he is fighting to save his campaign, while the Guardian suggests it is hanging in the balance. The Daily Mail feels Amber Rudd's decision to back Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt is a blow - but it predicts that Mr Gove will use his campaign launch to insist he is undaunted and ready to lead the country. The Daily Telegraph acknowledges the environment secretary's honesty - but expresses disappointment that Mr Gove sees what happened as a personal mistake to be erased by the passage of time, and not an opportunity to discuss the the scourge that cocaine use has become.
The Sun praises Home Secretary Sajid Javid for highlighting how the use of cocaine by the middle classes destroys lives. The Daily Mirror takes Mr Gove to task - saying he symbolises the arrogance of a Tory elite who did not practise what they preached, imposing laws they themselves flouted. City AM focuses on Mr Johnson's threat to withhold the UK's £39bn Brexit divorce bill - saying it had given the City the jitters. Politics Home says he was hit by a backlash, while the Daily Express reports that his warning stunned the EU. An aide of President Emmanuel Macron said failure to pay the money would be a sovereign debt default. The Financial Times says the prospect of the former foreign secretary succeeding Theresa May alarms Europe, saying some EU officials regard him as unprincipled and cynical - and a dangerous populist.
The Guardian reports on what it calls Mr Johnson's ruthlessly organised campaign, which limits his media appearances to avoid the potential for gaffes. By keeping him out of the public eye, suggests the Mirror, his camp can also avoid him being asked awkward questions about past drug-taking. The Mail describes it as a "submarine strategy" while the i feels he might have opted for a relatively low profile because he is conscious that the election is his to lose. The FT focuses on what it calls a gloomy financial outlook for the Scottish government. It reports that the Scottish Fiscal Commission has predicted a fall in economic growth and a £1bn reduction in a block grant from London over three years. The FT thinks the expected cut in the grant presents a budget headache for SNP ministers in Edinburgh.
Lets be honest here neither can afford to be independent.
If they want it let them have it, no more earn it in England spend it in Scotland, no more me or 3 million other visitors spending our money in Wales and I live half my life there at my caravan but I can always relocate to an English resort.
Immediate candidates for an E U bailout because theres zero economy to grow, apart from tourism and lets be honest If I have to through the rigmarole of passports and euros and a 5+ hour journey, I'm probably going to take a cheap flight to the sun rather than Edinburgh or the Highlands
I wasn't saying this was good, bad, right or wrong, just that it was a topic to debate. It is easy to see this being an unintended consequence of Brexit. Many people don't share your views and are very much in favour of the Union. If it occurred it would leave England as more of a nonentity in terms of world influence. The loss of the odd caravanner in Wales, would be missed far less than the £650million per year which is currently paid by the EU.
Where are you going to fly to that doesn't have the rigmarole of changing currency, and passports?
Where is your caravan?
There are a number of logical and valid reasons why Brexit may signal the end of the Union.
Both Scotland and NI voted remain. Wales didn't, although the Welsh vote in the EU elections was in favour of remain parties.
How do you take back control of all these borders, and how much would it cost to police them?
Do you think that the fact that 9 of the 10 poorest areas in Northern Europe, just happen to be in the UK, is the fault of the EU, or our Government.
» show previous quotes If you bump into your mate at Wetherspoons, maybe you could ask him why our car manufacturers are suddenly closing their factories, laying off staff, manufacturing new models elsewhere, relocating to Europe, or setting up in Singapore. The predictable answer will be nothing to do with Brexit. Or maybe it wasn't such a good idea after all.
I clearly remember Boris Johnsons post Brexit speech, where he pointed to the fact that a deal would be no problem, as the Germans would wish to continue to sell us their BMWs, the Italians their Prosecco, etc.
So whats happened since?
He now seems to feel it necessary to threaten non payment of our bill, to force them into a better deal.
How could he think that this threat may make the EU more amenable?
How could a better deal help solve the Irish border problem?
The problem causing the current logjam, is the backstop, rather than any future trading relationship.
This problem belongs to our side.
We put in place the Good Friday Agreement, we value The Union, and wont separate NI.
Threatening to welsh on our bill solves nothing, least of all the Irish border problem.
The EU will just take us to court for the money.
Any threats are unlikely to help negotiations, and will have the opposite effect.
Nothing to do with Brexit?
The Ford factory in Bridgend closing, and the loss of thousands more jobs, has nothing to do with Brexit.
Although Fords have previously voiced concerns over post Brexit trading.
The Bridgend plant manufactures engines.
These engines are exported to other plants in Europe, and some of the finished cars are imported into the UK.
So under WTO rules they would be forced to pay a tariff on the engine export, and a further tariff on the finished car import.
Why would any manufacturer choose to do this, if it could be avoided?
Would any manufacturer choose to increase their costs?
How many more factories need to close, or relocate, even though it is nothing to do with Brexit, before leave voters admit that they have made a huge mistake?
These are good jobs that are being lost rather than zero hour contract jobs.
Many more jobs are being lost in the supply chains.
After the revelations of Michael Gove's drug use, the Guardian says he has "come out fighting" to "claw his way back into the race" to be the next prime minister. It says he made "a series of personal attacks on the front-runner, Boris Johnson", highlighting a "bitter rivalry" dating back to the previous Tory leadership contest. The Sun accuses Mr Gove of "taking the Michael" by appearing to mock the former foreign secretary's "tangled love life" by urging his rival "whatever you do, don't pull out". Michael Deacon, for the Daily Telegraph, believes that tackling Brexit and uniting the country will be easy, compared with the task of bringing Gove and Johnson back together.
The former Conservative leader, Iain Duncan Smith, explains in the same paper why he believes Boris Johnson is the "right person" to deliver Brexit by the end of October. He says too many of the other candidates regard that as damaging, which would make them "frightened negotiators" and mean they lacked the leadership and "mood of optimism" that the party needs. Jeremy Corbyn is said to have been accused by his backbenchers of lacking leadership on Brexit at what's said to have been a "fiery" and "bad-tempered" meeting of the Parliamentary Labour Party. Politics Home says close ally Marie Rimmer warned that even loyal supporters were "turning away" because of his failure to listen to them. It says he also came under attack for the party's response to anti-semitism and sexual harassment of women - with one MP describing it as "the worst PLP meeting he had ever attended". Huffpost UK says Marie Rimmer's remarks were greeted with "cheers and whistles". It adds that Mr Corbyn has agreed to "evolve" his position on Brexit, which is due to be discussed by the shadow cabinet today.
Labour: Jeremy Corbyn in 'heated' meeting with MPs
Jeremy Corbyn has been criticised by several of his MPs for his leadership on anti-Semitism and Brexit during a "heated" meeting in Parliament. Marie Rimmer told him people "who have worked with you for ages" were turning away while Jess Phillips said those "in the cult of Corbyn" were protected. Veteran MP Margaret Hodge criticised the choice of Lisa Forbes as Labour's Peterborough by-election candidate. Ms Forbes apologised to MPs for liking an anti-Semitic post on social media. The new MP, who won Thursday's by-election by 683 votes, caused controversy during the campaign when she appeared to endorse a post on Facebook which said Theresa May had a "Zionist slave masters agenda". Jewish Labour groups have called for Ms Forbes, who will take her seat in Parliament on Monday, to have the whip suspended.
» show previous quotes If you bump into your mate at Wetherspoons, maybe you could ask him why our car manufacturers are suddenly closing their factories, laying off staff, manufacturing new models elsewhere, relocating to Europe, or setting up in Singapore. The predictable answer will be nothing to do with Brexit. Or maybe it wasn't such a good idea after all.
Watch, absorb, then tell me it will be no problem.
Forget politicians - here's the experts' view of a No-Deal Brexit
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I admire you for trying to educate Hardline brexiteers but you are wasting your time, they just dont like Europe and any sane argument goes over their heads I'm afraid. Like you I am a pensioner so hopefully wont affect me too much but worried for my kids and grandkids.
I'm astounded that a proud country which at one time ruled most of the world(harshly at times) and affected Europe in so many good ways, WW1 AND WW2 as recent examples wants to pull up the drawbridge, throw ourselves at the mercy of giants like China and USA and let the Germans and French run Europe. History has shown they dont make a very good job of it.
The problem is we surrendered to them when we started to elect MEPS who had no interest in making the EU better and our place stronger in it. ie UKIP and now we compound it by electing BREXIT MEPS.
Watch them walk away if they win and watch the country go to the dogs.
Why ?
The people we elect to our governments have been **** for 40 years or so, all careerists with no vision. They will still be there , with more power than ever and BREXITEERS WANT THEM.
And as to Brexiteers well this thread has shown they dont know what the future will hold, what Brexit will really mean and any advantages it will bring , other than WE WONT BE GOVERNED BY EUROPE. Well we never have been .
GOD HELP US!!!!
Pity that UK companies cant continue their good work in this field unless they move to EU with job losses here.
Nevermind that we will now have to have our own system for military/security use.
Pity it will cost £92million to develop and billions to put into affect .
and the nub of the problem
Is even if we manage to get our new system up and running ,
We have used or haven't got any more satellite space up there in the wide blue yonder so we will have to go cap in hand to countries who do.
Oh what fun.
Conservative leadership candidates are paraded on most front pages - but Michael Gove is the most prominent, following his admission that he took cocaine before he became an MP.
The Sunday Mirror has a picture of six candidates who have admitted to having taken drugs in the past. "Race for PM goes to pot" is the headline.
For the Mail on Sunday, the environment secretary's revelation throws the contest into high drama. It says it prompted a chorus of criticism from campaigners who highlighted how an "epidemic" of middle-class cocaine use is fuelling appalling gang violence and organised crime.
The Observer quotes a former senior drug adviser to the government, Prof David Nutt, as saying Mr Gove's disclosure is more proof that privileged politicians feel able to "break the law, but not for others to do the same"
The Sunday Telegraph also features Mr Gove in its lead story, but focuses on his pledge to look to replace VAT with a "lower, simpler" alternative and cut business rates.
According to the paper, sources have also indicated that he would halt construction of the high-speed rail network, HS2, in order to review whether it represents value for money.
It says Mr Gove's intervention is likely to be seen as a dramatic attempt to shift attention from the cocaine revelation back to his policy plans.
The policy plans of Mr Gove's leadership rival, Boris Johnson, make the lead for the Sunday Times. In an interview for the paper, Mr Johnson says he would "retain" the £39bn divorce payment demanded by Brussels until he gets a better deal.
He says he would combine a tough line on Brexit with a full-throated return to One Nation Tory policies at home.
Another of the candidates, Jeremy Hunt, is the subject of the lead in the Sunday Express. It says the foreign secretary has positioned himself as "the deal maker" who can deliver Brexit. He tells the paper that as an entrepreneur by background, he's done deals all his life.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-48570896
Here is a man whose values and principles appear at odds with those of his fellow countrymen and women, but who will sacrifice anything on the altar of Brexit
What may be blindingly obvious to Bercow, may not be so to Raab, and this situation illustrates two things. First, it shows that Raab’s true loyalties are not to the wider Conservative party, but to the ERG who accuse EU institutions of being undemocratic whilst showing themselves willing to not just be undemocratic but autocratic.
Second, it highlights Raab’s rabid mindset, through which he will sacrifice anything on the altar of Brexit – even the sovereignty of parliament, which so many people who voted Leave were told they would get back if we left the EU.
So how can he even consider proroguing parliament to ensure there is no extension to Article 50 beyond 31 October when that would mean it would be impossible to pass any bills or the remaining secondary legislation needed to prepare our statute book for a no-deal outcome?
Things like guaranteeing the security of supply for people who need drugs to live – such as insulin-dependent diabetics, reliant on supplies from abroad.
Let me finish by reminding readers of some of Raab’s other views: “Feminists are now amongst the most obnoxious bigots.” And in a pamphlet for the Centre for Policy Studies he asserted that UK employment legislation represents a “straitjacket” for the economy, while proposing employers should be able to fire at will. He complains of “human rights running riot” and thinks workers’ rights should be changed to make it harder for them to go on strike.
Here is a man whose values and principles appear to be dramatically at odds with those of most of his fellow countrymen and women, but alas only some 160,000 of them will be voting for him or any of the other Tory candidates. The rest of the UK population will just have to suffer the horrifying consequences.
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-dominic-raab-prorogue-parliament-no-deal-erg-tory-conservative-a8947371.html
Only a very small percentage of the electorate will feel they got what they voted for.
Leave voters seem to find it almost impossible to iterate a single way in which their lives will improve post Brexit.
We still want all the benefits of membership, after leaving, with none of the obligations?
Leaving with no deal is not a real option.
How could any sane person trust Trump, and prefer to replace EU trade with a US trade deal?
Why would we wish to lower our food standards?
Did we really vote in favour of tariffs, and increasing the cost of living to consumers?
Are those that shout about democracy kidding themselves?
Is there anything democratic about the fact that our next PM will be chosen by less than 0.2% of the electorate?
Labours policy of constructive ambiguity has been anything but constructive.
Labour claims of being the most democratic party are completely untrue.
Political leadership is this country is nonexistent.
The stop Boris campaign has evaporated, and become the elect Boris to counteract Farage campaign.
The Government has done nothing to address the burning injustices, the austerity measures, and inequalities that Theresa Many has pointed out.
Yet in my view they have bent over backwards to help us to reach an agreement.
Most of the front pages are devoted to the Conservative party leadership contest.
The Metro says eight of the 11 candidates have now admitted to using drugs in the past. The i talks of Michael Gove fighting back after his admission that he took cocaine, and of his key supporters remaining loyal.
The Times believes he is fighting to save his campaign, while the Guardian suggests it is hanging in the balance.
The Daily Mail feels Amber Rudd's decision to back Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt is a blow - but it predicts that Mr Gove will use his campaign launch to insist he is undaunted and ready to lead the country.
The Daily Telegraph acknowledges the environment secretary's honesty - but expresses disappointment that Mr Gove sees what happened as a personal mistake to be erased by the passage of time, and not an opportunity to discuss the the scourge that cocaine use has become.
The Sun praises Home Secretary Sajid Javid for highlighting how the use of cocaine by the middle classes destroys lives. The Daily Mirror takes Mr Gove to task - saying he symbolises the arrogance of a Tory elite who did not practise what they preached, imposing laws they themselves flouted.
City AM focuses on Mr Johnson's threat to withhold the UK's £39bn Brexit divorce bill - saying it had given the City the jitters. Politics Home says he was hit by a backlash, while the Daily Express reports that his warning stunned the EU. An aide of President Emmanuel Macron said failure to pay the money would be a sovereign debt default.
The Financial Times says the prospect of the former foreign secretary succeeding Theresa May alarms Europe, saying some EU officials regard him as unprincipled and cynical - and a dangerous populist.
The Guardian reports on what it calls Mr Johnson's ruthlessly organised campaign, which limits his media appearances to avoid the potential for gaffes. By keeping him out of the public eye, suggests the Mirror, his camp can also avoid him being asked awkward questions about past drug-taking.
The Mail describes it as a "submarine strategy" while the i feels he might have opted for a relatively low profile because he is conscious that the election is his to lose.
The FT focuses on what it calls a gloomy financial outlook for the Scottish government. It reports that the Scottish Fiscal Commission has predicted a fall in economic growth and a £1bn reduction in a block grant from London over three years. The FT thinks the expected cut in the grant presents a budget headache for SNP ministers in Edinburgh.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-48577227
I wasn't saying this was good, bad, right or wrong, just that it was a topic to debate.
It is easy to see this being an unintended consequence of Brexit.
Many people don't share your views and are very much in favour of the Union.
If it occurred it would leave England as more of a nonentity in terms of world influence.
The loss of the odd caravanner in Wales, would be missed far less than the £650million per year which is currently paid by the EU.
Where are you going to fly to that doesn't have the rigmarole of changing currency, and passports?
Where is your caravan?
There are a number of logical and valid reasons why Brexit may signal the end of the Union.
Both Scotland and NI voted remain. Wales didn't, although the Welsh vote in the EU elections was in favour of remain parties.
How do you take back control of all these borders, and how much would it cost to police them?
Do you think that the fact that 9 of the 10 poorest areas in Northern Europe, just happen to be in the UK, is the fault of the EU, or our Government.
https://www.indy100.com/article/are-9-of-the-poorest-regions-in-northern-europe-really-in-the-uk--eJ0axHCqmx
» show previous quotes
If you bump into your mate at Wetherspoons, maybe you could ask him why our car manufacturers are suddenly closing their factories, laying off staff, manufacturing new models elsewhere, relocating to Europe, or setting up in Singapore.
The predictable answer will be nothing to do with Brexit.
Or maybe it wasn't such a good idea after all.
So whats happened since?
He now seems to feel it necessary to threaten non payment of our bill, to force them into a better deal.
How could he think that this threat may make the EU more amenable?
How could a better deal help solve the Irish border problem?
The problem causing the current logjam, is the backstop, rather than any future trading relationship.
This problem belongs to our side.
We put in place the Good Friday Agreement, we value The Union, and wont separate NI.
Threatening to welsh on our bill solves nothing, least of all the Irish border problem.
The EU will just take us to court for the money.
Any threats are unlikely to help negotiations, and will have the opposite effect.
Nothing to do with Brexit?
The Ford factory in Bridgend closing, and the loss of thousands more jobs, has nothing to do with Brexit.
Although Fords have previously voiced concerns over post Brexit trading.
The Bridgend plant manufactures engines.
These engines are exported to other plants in Europe, and some of the finished cars are imported into the UK.
So under WTO rules they would be forced to pay a tariff on the engine export, and a further tariff on the finished car import.
Why would any manufacturer choose to do this, if it could be avoided?
Would any manufacturer choose to increase their costs?
How many more factories need to close, or relocate, even though it is nothing to do with Brexit, before leave voters admit that they have made a huge mistake?
These are good jobs that are being lost rather than zero hour contract jobs.
Many more jobs are being lost in the supply chains.
Many communities will be adversely affected.
Nothing to do with Brexit my ar5e.
After the revelations of Michael Gove's drug use, the Guardian says he has "come out fighting" to "claw his way back into the race" to be the next prime minister.
It says he made "a series of personal attacks on the front-runner, Boris Johnson", highlighting a "bitter rivalry" dating back to the previous Tory leadership contest.
The Sun accuses Mr Gove of "taking the Michael" by appearing to mock the former foreign secretary's "tangled love life" by urging his rival "whatever you do, don't pull out".
Michael Deacon, for the Daily Telegraph, believes that tackling Brexit and uniting the country will be easy, compared with the task of bringing Gove and Johnson back together.
The former Conservative leader, Iain Duncan Smith, explains in the same paper why he believes Boris Johnson is the "right person" to deliver Brexit by the end of October.
He says too many of the other candidates regard that as damaging, which would make them "frightened negotiators" and mean they lacked the leadership and "mood of optimism" that the party needs.
Jeremy Corbyn is said to have been accused by his backbenchers of lacking leadership on Brexit at what's said to have been a "fiery" and "bad-tempered" meeting of the Parliamentary Labour Party.
Politics Home says close ally Marie Rimmer warned that even loyal supporters were "turning away" because of his failure to listen to them.
It says he also came under attack for the party's response to anti-semitism and sexual harassment of women - with one MP describing it as "the worst PLP meeting he had ever attended".
Huffpost UK says Marie Rimmer's remarks were greeted with "cheers and whistles". It adds that Mr Corbyn has agreed to "evolve" his position on Brexit, which is due to be discussed by the shadow cabinet today.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-48589919
Jeremy Corbyn has been criticised by several of his MPs for his leadership on anti-Semitism and Brexit during a "heated" meeting in Parliament.
Marie Rimmer told him people "who have worked with you for ages" were turning away while Jess Phillips said those "in the cult of Corbyn" were protected.
Veteran MP Margaret Hodge criticised the choice of Lisa Forbes as Labour's Peterborough by-election candidate.
Ms Forbes apologised to MPs for liking an anti-Semitic post on social media.
The new MP, who won Thursday's by-election by 683 votes, caused controversy during the campaign when she appeared to endorse a post on Facebook which said Theresa May had a "Zionist slave masters agenda".
Jewish Labour groups have called for Ms Forbes, who will take her seat in Parliament on Monday, to have the whip suspended.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48587954
Watch, absorb, then tell me it will be no problem.
Forget politicians - here's the experts' view of a No-Deal Brexit
Chris
2 months ago
Tim Martin is an expert?!!!!! Did you hit your head Channel 4?
Colin Pill-Grainger
3 months ago
A Scotsman, an Irishman and an Englishman go into a pub. The Englishman didn't want to stay so they all had to leave.
Claudette Earle
1 month ago
That man in the pub (Witherspoon) is he drunk? What's in a no- deal for him personally?
SALZOPYRIN
4 months ago
THERESA MAY
The kind of negotiator to come out of DFS with a full priced sofa.
The Tory membership, which is around 0.27% of the electorate, provide us with a new PM.
Even though the favourite has failed to win every time in the last 50 years, it looks as though Boris will need some sort of disaster to lose.
So it looks likely that Boris becomes the new PM of a minority Government.
Labours priority will be to secure a no confidence vote.
To survive a no confidence vote, the Tories need the DUP on side.
The current agreement with the DUP ends this Summer.
To continue this arrangement, the DUP are likely to require more money, in addition to the tearing up of the backstop.
The EU will not reopen the Withdrawal Agreement, or renegotiate the backstop.
Failure to reach an agreement means the default position is the disaster that is no deal.
This Parliament wont allow no deal to happen.
Revocation of Article 50 seems unlikely.
The Germans are apparently saying no further extension without another referendum.
The loss of a no confidence vote results in a general election, and probably another minority Government.
Maybe a Labour/SNP coalition.
The SNP would insist on a confirmatory vote on any deal, in return for their support.
We just seem to be going around in circles, and no closer to a deliverable solution.
Yet a confirmatory vote is such an obvious solution to this nonsense.
Excuses like democracy, and the will of the people are becoming less, and less valid.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brexit/brexit-labour-announce-bid-to-block-new-tory-pm-from-suspending-parliament-to-force-through-no-deal/ar-AACIKdb?ocid=spartanntp
French video game publisher Ubisoft has unveiled the latest edition to its popular Watch Dogs series, revealing a post-Brexit dystopian vision of London that goes way beyond even the worst nightmares of Project Fear.
Set in the English capital in the near-future, Watch Dogs: Legion depicts what British society might look like given the culmination of huge political upheaval and highly-advanced technologies like artificial intelligence.
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/watch-dogs-legion-lets-players-092900594.html
Boris Johnson has been accused of “not having the guts to face the people” in the Conservative leadership race, coming under fire for dodging interviews and refusing to confirm his participation in a BBC debate with other candidates.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/boris-johnson-accused-of-cowardice-as-he-dodges-public-scrutiny/ar-AACHUM8?ocid=spartanntp