Jeremy Corbyn is 'not cut out' to be Labour leader according to one of the party's OWN lords as under-pressure left-winger is told to rein in some of his supporters over anti-Semitism crisis Lord Harris suggested Mr Corbyn could have 'reined back' close associates Peer said leader should have acted to control his 'more idiotic supporters' Labour peers have offered to investigate allegations of anti-Semitism in party Came as NEC members launched bid to toughen up rules tackling racism
Sterling fell to two year low on Tuesday, to just below $1.24. Laura Foll, a fund manager at Janus Henderson Investors, told Wake Up To Money the moves in the currency have been sparked by Brexit and the Conservative leadership campaign. Virgin boss Sir Richard Branson has previously told the BBC the pound could fall to parity against the dollar if there is a no-deal Brexit and Ms Foll said "that's quite a common perception". "If Brexit were to go away we would probably go back to our long-term average verses the dollar which is about $1.50," she said. But when analysts think about what could happen in a no-deal scenario "they tend to talk about parity”.
I'm not oversimplifying it. Democracy is where the majority decide what happens. Naturally, I would prefer the same ways forward as you. Trouble is, the minority doesn't get to choose.
Perfectly democratic to have a referendum on HOW we leave. But we have had one on IF, and the answer was yes, we leave.
Nobody has ever suggested a referendum on these terms.
We have already spent 3 years doing nothing. Your "solution" is to pretend the first vote didn't happen, and have a 2nd. How is that a "solution"? All it will do is reopen old wounds. Quite apart from the fact that it will take the best part of ANOTHER year failing to carry out the result of the last vote.
And we will undoubtedly face the biggest threat to our country since at least the 1940s. Once you promise the country that you will abide by a result, you have to do exactly that. Unless you want Farage to win the next election without anyone with any idea how to actually run the country.
If people had been campaigning properly in 2016, or campaigning effectively since as to HOW we leave (rather than denying history), perhaps we wouldn't be in this unholy mess.
It seems certain that Boris will take over as PM next week.
He has sworn to leave by the end of October, do or die.
Both candidates views seemed to harden yesterday, as they both claimed that the backstop would have to be ripped up, where they both previously claimed that a few tweaks might do.
Both candidates were previously of the view that a new deal could be negotiated before the current deadline.
The EU have been adamant for months that no new negotiations will take place.
It would seem that both candidates now accept this.
So Boris gets elected by a very old, 0.27% of the electorate.
Democracy?
Will of the people?
He is determined to get us out by Halloween, which probably means no deal.
Democracy?
Will of the People?
No deal was never even discussed during the referendum campaign.
Democracy?
Will of the people?
To accomplish this, he will probably forced into suspending Parliament.
Democracy?
Will of the people?
Assuming the Tories lose the Brecon by-election, their majority drops to 3.
This means only two Tories have to fall by the wayside to collapse the Government.
We then get a general election, another vote. This will be the third in 4 years. Yet they are supposed to occur every five years.
Democracy?
Will of the people?
Another possibility with the same result, is that the Tories could lose a no confidence vote.
There seem to be enough Tories prepared to vote against the Government, to make this happen.
How could you argue that a second referendum would be less democratic than the above?
Why is it ok to have any number of general elections in an attempt to break the deadlock?
A general election may not necessarily solve anything, if the Parliamentary arithmetic doesn't change.
What are you going to do then?
Another general election?
Just as a point of interest.
I was watching Politics Live yesterday.
Sarah Champion a Labour MP, who is in favour of leaving, claimed she didn't vote for the deal as she felt it was "a game of poker".
Incredible.
Champion said it was an “awful question” as to whether she would prefer no deal over no Brexit, but she said: “If it came to it I would take no deal if that meant we could leave.” Champion appeared to suggest she had thought Labour MPs could get more concessions from May, and this had prevented her from backing the prime minister’s deal.
“It’s poker, isn’t it? And if I’m being completely honest, I hoped she would listen to what the Labour frontbench was saying and move and she didn’t. The extent she moved effectively caused her to be sacked.”
Asked whether she would back the government in a confidence vote in order to deliver a no deal, Champion said: “I don’t know. Ask me closer to the time.”
Several Labour MPs have expressed regret that they did not vote for May’s Brexit deal in March, before the EU’s extension, including Gareth Snell and Stephen Kinnock. “I made a mistake,” Snell told the House of Commons last month. Snell said Labour “will have been responsible for a no-deal Brexit by default because of our inability to make a decision”.
Lords Pass Plan To Stop Boris Johnson Forcing Through No-Deal Brexit By Suspending Parliament
MPs are set for a crunch Brexit vote on Thursday after peers passed a plan designed to stop Boris Johnson suspending parliament to force through no deal. The House of Lords set up a battle in the Commons by passing an amendment by 272 votes to 169, majority 103, aimed at ensuring parliament is sitting in the weeks leading up to the October 31 Brexit deadline. MPs will now vote on the amendment amid fears that Johnson could prorogue - or simply dissolve - parliament in the weeks before Halloween to stop politicians passing laws to stop Britain leaving the EU without a deal. The Tory leadership frontrunner has promised to deliver Brexit “do or die” by October 31, and has failed to rule out dissolving parliament to do so - a tactic which has been branded a “constitutional outrage”.
The Daily Mirror reports the brother of the Manchester Arena bomber was flown back to Britain after a "secret deal" was struck with Libya. In return, the paper says, the UK has agreed to protect Tripoli in the country's civil war. A source tells the Mirror that British officials negotiated with the UN-backed government as opposition forces closed in on the capital - making them an offer they dared not refuse. Officials in Tripoli tell the Times that Hashem Abedi's extradition was delayed because Libyan citizens cannot be extradited to the UK. The problem was apparently solved after the 22-year-old's nationality was "removed".
The Guardian leads on Theresa May's last major speech - describing it as a "defensive swipe" at those in her party who pursue ideological purity at any price. But it says she repeatedly declined the opportunity for self-reflection when asked if she herself had been too unwilling to compromise. Patrick Maguire, in the New Statesman, says it was a "surreal" and "barely believable" performance - highlighting a "glaring contradiction" between Mrs May's rhetoric and her actions. "Final speech hails skill she never used" is the Daily Mirror's take. The sketch writers are less kind. "Thunderingly banal and blisteringly bland," says Michael Deacon of the Daily Telegraph.
Boris Johnson is pictured waving a wrapped kipper on the front of some of the papers, as part of their coverage of the final Conservative leadership hustings. The Daily Express says it handed the fish to Mr Johnson ahead of his speech, to make a point about the impact of EU regulations on a smokery on the Isle of Man. Staff there apparently have to include an icepack in packages sent to customers, increasing their production costs. Over-75s are to be visited at home by TV licence "outreach teams" to make sure they pay up, reports the Daily Telegraph. It has picked up on comments by a BBC executive who assured MPs on the Commons Digital, Culture, Media and Sport committee that the visits would be carried out "as sympathetically as possible".
Age UK tells the paper the situation has all the makings of a "slow-motion car crash" which could be "deeply upsetting" for elderly people. The Times says US President Donald Trump's efforts to distance himself from the disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein have been dealt a blow, after footage emerged of them partying with cheerleaders in Florida, in 1992. It is one of many papers to show images from the film. In it, Mr Trump pats a woman on the bottom, and jokes with Mr Epstein, who has been arrested on fresh charges of underage sex trafficking, which he denies. The US magazine Vanity Fair says the footage is "nauseating". One of the cheerleaders tells the Washington Post that at the end of the night the future president was throwing people in a swimming pool, and that it was "all in good fun".
The Daily Mail worries the traditional police helmet - a symbol of law and order for more than 150 years - could be at risk of extinction. It points to a decision by the Gloucestershire Constabulary to outfit their officers with US-style baseball caps instead. The Mail says it is an attempt to appeal to teens; critics tell the paper it makes officers look more like Burger King workers. The Daily Telegraph is deeply unimpressed. Its editorial says baseball caps are as un-British as baseball itself - and more associated with criminals than guardians of the law.
There is plenty of coverage of newly-released files from the National Archives. The Daily Telegraph focuses on concern among officials in 1994 that John Major might cause embarrassment by inadvertently winning the first ever National Lottery draw. And the Daily Mirror highlights a "top-level" probe by aides of Sir Winston Churchill after a rare Chinese vase disappeared from No 10 in the early 1950s.
A Tory mutiny against Boris is our only hope Even Michael Gove now considers Boris to have the character to take the ship’s helm – a remarkable feat of rodent dexterity and selective amnesia
Hammond 'terrified' by Rees-Mogg claim of no-deal Brexit boost Chancellor rubbishes claim by Boris Johnson ally that no-deal exit could boost economy by £80bn
Philip Hammond, the chancellor, has said it is “terrifying” that one of Boris Johnson’s close allies, Jacob Rees-Mogg, believes a no-deal Brexit will boost the economy. The chancellor, who is expected to exit the government next week, expressed his horror after Rees-Mogg used a Daily Telegraph opinion piece to dismiss the “pure silliness” of Treasury forecasts suggesting a £90bn hit to the economy. Rees-Mogg claimed there were economic models that showed “the total positive impact of no deal could be in the region of about £80bn”. Hammond hit back at the argument, saying on Twitter: “Happy to debate scale of negative impact of no deal on the economy – but terrifying that someone this close to a potential future government can think we’d actually be better off by adding barriers to access to our largest market.”
Boris Johnson shoots down his own Brexit plan with bizarre kipper-waving rant Handed the kipper before stepping on stage Mr Johnson waved the fish above his head to make a serious political point
Addressing the crowd in London last night at his final campaign performance, Mr Johnson whipped out the plastic-wrapped fish which he said he had been handed by a national newspaper editor. Mr Johnson claimed a kipper smoker is "utterly furious" because apparently his costs have been increased by EU rules he said mean each fish must be accompanied by a plastic-wrapped ice pillow. "Pointless, expensive, environmentally-damaging health and safety, ladies and gentlemen," Mr Johnson said. He then joked that he would "bring back the kippers" a reference to winning back Ukip voters. And then a large chunk of the audience - who were Conservative Party members - gave him a standing ovation.
Except Mr Johnson revealed that the kipper smoker is from the Isle of Man. Which isn't in the European Union. So why do fish exporters not in the EU follow the rules of the giant trading bloc - driving up the costs of humble kipper smokers? Well because if it they didn't they wouldn't be allowed to sell those tasty flecks of smoked fish to the European market. And this - economists, international trade experts and lawyers have warned - is basically what is going to happen to the UK in a post Brexit trade deal.
Rather than freeing fish smokers - and you know almost everyone else - from the trading rules of the EU it instead means you become a rule taker rather than a rule maker.
No-deal Brexit will tip UK into recession, government's official spending watchdog says
Britain will fall into recession next year if it crashes out of the EU without a deal, the government's official spending watchdog has said. The Office for Budget Responsibility analysed a particular type of a no-deal Brexit - the less disruptive of the two presented by the IMF in its World Economic Outlook, published in April. Even in that scenario "heightened uncertainty and declining confidence deter investment, while higher trade barriers with the EU weigh on exports", the OBR said. "Together, these push the economy into recession, with asset prices and the pound falling sharply."
So Boris made a d1ck of himself waving the kipper about yesterday.
He was trying to make a point about an Isle of Man based, kipper smoking company, having to comply with EU regulations in regard to a compulsory plastic-wrapped ice pillow in the packaging, which obviously increased their costs, and reduced their profits.
There were only three problems with this.
1 The Isle of Man is not in the EU.
2 They were not EU regulations.
3 They were UK regulations.
Although a Brit blaming the EU for stuff they are not responsible for should hardly come as a surprise.
The vote in The House of Commons this afternoon, was won by those not in favour of suspending Parliament, and has apparently blocked this as an option for Boris, if he had any plans to sneak through a no deal, by getting the MPs out of the way.
There are apparently plans afoot to stop a no deal, and according to the experts there are enough MPs who don't support no deal, to stop it happening.
Boris cant get out of the promised "we are out on 31st October, do or die"
He has ruled out any further extensions.
He has ripped up the Withdrawal Agreement, and binned the backstop.
The new EU leaders don't arrive until 1st November.
The old EU negotiating team is disbanded.
In the UK, there is the Summer Recess, then the Conferences.
The choices are narrowing.
The EU are dead against reopening negotiations, even if there was time.
There is no majority for revoking article 50, unless maybe the choice was that or no deal.
There is no majority yet for another referendum.
A general Election?
That wouldn't necessary solve anything, and probably need an extension to organise.
Boris may well end up dying rather than doing by the 31st October.
The one huge disadvantage if it drags on or we stay in, is that we will have to put up with Nigel Farage for longer.
Getting rid of him is nearly worth a no deal disaster in October, but not quite.
They are even contemplating giving him a Peerage to get shot of him.
The vote by MPs to block any attempt to suspend Parliament in order to force through a no-deal Brexit is the lead for several newspapers. The Guardian says MPs have given Boris Johnson a brutal preview of the scale of the challenge facing him if he becomes prime minister. His life has become more difficult, the i says. Cartoons in the Times and the Daily Telegraph show Mr Johnson bound and tied up following yesterday's vote. It's a prospect that horrifies some; the Telegraph describes it as a monumental act of self-harm. Any Tory who genuinely wants Mr Johnson to rescue an agreement, the paper says, should give him as much latitude as possible. In the Sun's view, the vote is not some noble defence of democracy - but simply a move to make it harder to honour the referendum result by leaving the EU with no deal. But the i says the idea that Parliament could be suspended at a critical moment in national history is outrageous, robbing MPs of an opportunity to debate and vote on our future.
The politics.co.uk website says the vote shows Parliament is ready to stand up for itself in the battles to come with the executive. British constitutional democracy is fighting back, it declares. The Daily Telegraph lays the blame for the rebellion at the door of the chancellor, with the headline: "Hammond stirs up trouble for Boris in Brexit parting shot". It says Theresa May has been accused of a final act of weakness in failing to discipline either the chancellor or seven other ministers who abstained from the vote. The Financial Times notes that while Tory Eurosceptics repeatedly thwarted Mrs May's Brexit deal, Mr Johnson now faces a mirror-image group of Europhile rebels who are determined to stop him from carrying out a no-deal exit. The Times reports three cabinet ministers are preparing to quit on the day Mr Johnson becomes prime minister if, as expected, he wins the Tory leadership race. According to the paper, Justice Secretary David Gauke is set to resign soon after Theresa May completes her final Prime Minister's Questions.
Chancellor Philip Hammond and International Development Secretary Rory Stewart are also considering departing before Mr Johnson arrives, it adds. The paper says the resignations will deny the new PM the chance to sack the strongest opponents of a no-deal Brexit. The Daily Express leads with a pledge by Mr Johnson to end what it calls the cruel injustice of people having to sell their home to cover the cost of dementia care. In an interview with the paper, he says he wants to build a cross-party consensus to find a solution. As part of its campaign on the issue, the Daily Mail carries a poll which suggests one in three people with dementia have been forced to sell their home to pay for care. Just over 1,000 people were questioned for the survey and 27% of those who took part said they had spent more than £50,000 on care. According to the Daily Mirror's main story, Tory plans to save cash by removing free TV licences could backfire and add £1.6bn to the welfare bill. The paper reports the BBC's decision to limit free licences to over-75s on pension credit will spark a rush to sign up for the benefit, which could cost twice what is saved.
Brexit news - live: Suspending parliament 'may have to happen', leading Brexiteer says, amid rumoured Tory rebel plot to get Queen to avert no-deal exit
Suspending parliament so that MPs cannot stop the next prime minister forcing through a no-deal Brexit "may have to happen", Jacob Rees-Mogg has said. The leading Tory Eurosceptic said he did not support a lengthy prorogation but that parliament could have to be closed for one or two days. The admission came as anti-Brexit MPs reportedly mull a plan to ask the Queen to intervene if the next prime minister, expected to be Boris Johnson, tries to prorogue parliament. Tory members have just three days left to vote for who they want to succeed Theresa May.
Brexit study hailed by Boris Johnson as solution to crisis concludes he is wrong to declare Theresa May’s deal ‘dead’ Hi-tech solutions to avoid Irish border checks three years away, so existing deal should be beefed up – not ripped up
Boris Johnson must drop his insistence that Theresa May’s Brexit deal is “dead” and sign a reworked agreement according to a final version of a study hailed by the next likely prime minister as a solution to the Irish border crisis. The U-turn is recommended in a report on hi-tech solutions to avoid border checks, which calls for the existing deal to be beefed up – not ripped up, as the likely next prime minister wants.
Mr Johnson had hailed the “abundant” solutions in its interim report into so-called “alternative arrangements” as proof that the Irish backstop could be taken out of the divorce deal altogether.
Just like the kipper he waved around, Boris Johnson has stitched us up with false claims about EU safety rules The Great EU Food Safety scandal is no more a reality than supposing that everyone on the Isle of Man, like their famous emblem, has got three legs. But if it got him to No 10, he’d probably say that too
It is highly appropriate, not to say ironic, that this latest of a long and depressing line of Boris Johnson’s amusing European “stories”, demonstrated by holding a kipper up at a hustings to make a point about EU safety rules, turns out be entirely fictional. No matter what the angry man on the Isle of Man may have thought about the packaging he is required to use to transport his smoked herring, the rules are Made in Britain, so to speak. They are all about food safety, and maintaining the integrity of the kipper as the nation’s breakfast fish of choice (as featured in the famous episode of Fawlty Towers entitled “The Kipper and the Corpse”).
So, once again, Johnson’s creative approach to the truth leaves him looking as two-faced as the kippers he was waving aloft in the final Tory hustings event. His flair for publicity is as lively as ever.
We should remind ourselves that he once told readers of The Daily Telegraph, when he was the newspaper’s Brussels correspondent, that a problem with asbestos meant that the European Union’s grandiose Brussels headquarters building, the Berlaymont, would have to be “blown up”.
A quarter of a century on, it is still standing and still, no doubt, hatching plans to imprison greengrocers selling carrots by the pound, to outlaw bent bananas and reclassify snails as fish – though in reality these dastardly schemes took place only in Johnson’s imagination. But even were it true that pettifogging Eurocrats had imposed an intolerable burden upon the venerable smoked fish houses of the Isle of Man (technically not even a member of the EU), we, and the kippermen and kipperwomen of Peel and Port Erin, should reflect upon the economics of the kipper.
No different to Welsh lamb, Red Leicester or salmon from Scotland, British and crown dependency kippers have to be exported to the European Union with the greatest of ease, with as little impediment and friction as possible, for optimal taste. The loss of a market of the size and prosperity as the European Union far outweighs any number of silly regulations. Every jurisdiction on earth has its own eccentric little ways, the sort of thing that attracts the attention of journalists and propagandists such as Johnson.
They make for a good page five lead, or the germ of some columnal flight of fancy, or a nice bit of bait for web traffic. All fine. They do not though, form the basis of an economic policy.
Because it is not fact. The Great Kipper Scandal of 2019 is no more a reality than supposing that everyone on the Isle of Man, like their famous emblem, has got three legs. You can be sure, though, that if Johnson thought that to say it would get him into No 10, he would claim that they did. Then he would double down by adding that Ursula von der Leyen was plotting to make Manx cats wear artificial tails in an effort to harmonise them with fictional varieties from Bavaria, Silesia and Wallachia, as required by the latest EU Directive MO-66Y (2019): Euro-cats invented by Eurocrats. See how easy it is?
Boris Johnson could be the last ever UK prime minister, warns Gordon Brown
Boris Johnson will be the last prime minister of the UK unless there are moves to protect the union which is “hanging by a thread”, Gordon Brown has warned. The former prime minister predicted the combination of “Boris and Brexit” will be at the heart of the SNP’s independence campaign, which he said could see the 300-year-old union “bite the dust”. Mr Brown called for a “positive, patriotic and progressive” case for Scotland’s role in the UK, contrasting it with “Boris Johnson’s history of casual hostility and the shrill and economically suicidal separatist obsessions of the SNP”. Arguing Scottish independence would be an “even worse financial catastrophe” for Scotland’s economy, communities and citizens than a no-deal Brexit, Mr Brown claimed £50 billion of Scottish trade and up to a million jobs would be at risk from leaving the UK
The strong indication by Chancellor Philip Hammond that he could back moves to bring down a Conservative government in order to stop a no-deal Brexit, is criticised in several quarters. The Daily Express calls it an astonishing act of betrayal. Not for years, the Sun declares, has a man dishonoured high office as Philip Hammond is now doing. In the Daily Mail's view, it's a source of huge concern that he and several other disaffected - and soon to be sacked - cabinet ministers are plotting to destabilise their new leader before he's even got his feet under the desk.
The papers also report that Boris Johnson is finalising his cabinet over the weekend in anticipation of him winning the Tory leadership contest on Tuesday. The Guardian says many of his allies will expect to see their support rewarded with a plum promotion, but - it adds - how can he keep everyone happy when he has more backers than jobs to go round? The Mail understands that he's determined to promote talented women to replace female allies of Theresa May who are likely to leave - with former Education Secretary Nicky Morgan tipped for a return. The Telegraph reveals that another figure who could make a cabinet comeback is the former Brexit Secretary, David Davis, who it says is in talks with Mr Johnson. According to the paper, Mr Davis, is understood to be in line to become either chancellor or foreign secretary after telling Mr Johnson he wouldn't settle for a lesser role. The Times reports that Priti Patel could return to the cabinet as international trade secretary and Jacob Rees-Mogg is being considered for chief secretary to the Treasury. The paper also reports that a former chief economics adviser to Mr Johnson and prominent Brexiteer, Gerard Lyons, has been interviewed by officials for the role of Bank of England governor. Mark Carney - the present governor - is stepping down at the end of the year. The paper says Mr Lyons had argued in a newspaper article that a no-deal Brexit may be the "only viable option" for leaving the EU.
Pension scams An investigation by the Times has found that pension scams are costing British savers up to £4bn a year. According to the paper, celebrities have been caught up in alleged frauds. It discovered that one of Britain's best-known TV broadcasters - who can't be named for legal reasons - moved more than £1m into an offshore pension scheme that is now feared to have collapsed. Why has the HS2 high-speed railway line become so expensive, the Financial Times asks. It considers some of the reasons for the warning by the chairman of HS2 that the final cost could go up by as much as £30bn. Speed comes at a price, the paper explains, and reducing the number of bends in the track, forcing the route through difficult countryside, and increasing the amount of tunnelling, all push up costs. Two-thirds of the route is below surface level, requiring extensive excavation and landscaping, the paper adds. Finally, the 50th anniversary of the first Moon landing is widely celebrated - with features, supplements and posters.
The Times and the Sun come with wrap-around covers featuring images from that historic day. The Guardian says Neil Armstrong's footprints on the powdery lunar surface changed the way we saw ourselves, confirming that humanity could escape its earthly coils. The mission unleashed a dream of what we as a species might do. The Financial Times thinks it's time for another lunar landing that includes female astronauts. But it wants the next missions to lay the foundation of a long-term human presence, leading to a permanently inhabited colony. It says the Moon could then become a base from which to explore asteroids, Mars and the solar system beyond.
Nigel Farage complains about narrow margin of victory for new EU chief after she wins 52% of vote Brexit Party leader mocked on social media
Nigel Farage is facing mockery after he claimed the new European Commission president lacked "legitimacy" because she won just 52 per cent of the vote. Mr Farage said Ursula von der Leyen had "power but no legitimacy" after she scraped in by nine votes in a ballot in the European Parliament on Tuesday.
Critics were quick to point out that the incoming head of the EU executive won by the same margin as the Leave campaign during the 2016 EU referendum - when the result was 52 per cent to 48 per cent.
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Jeremy Corbyn is 'not cut out' to be Labour leader according to one of the party's OWN lords as under-pressure left-winger is told to rein in some of his supporters over anti-Semitism crisis
Lord Harris suggested Mr Corbyn could have 'reined back' close associates
Peer said leader should have acted to control his 'more idiotic supporters'
Labour peers have offered to investigate allegations of anti-Semitism in party
Came as NEC members launched bid to toughen up rules tackling racism
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7251715/Jeremy-Corbyn-not-cut-Labour-leader-according-one-partys-lords.html
Sterling fell to two year low on Tuesday, to just below $1.24.
Laura Foll, a fund manager at Janus Henderson Investors, told Wake Up To Money the moves in the currency have been sparked by Brexit and the Conservative leadership campaign.
Virgin boss Sir Richard Branson has previously told the BBC the pound could fall to parity against the dollar if there is a no-deal Brexit and Ms Foll said "that's quite a common perception".
"If Brexit were to go away we would probably go back to our long-term average verses the dollar which is about $1.50," she said.
But when analysts think about what could happen in a no-deal scenario "they tend to talk about parity”.
It seems certain that Boris will take over as PM next week.
He has sworn to leave by the end of October, do or die.
Both candidates views seemed to harden yesterday, as they both claimed that the backstop would have to be ripped up, where they both previously claimed that a few tweaks might do.
Both candidates were previously of the view that a new deal could be negotiated before the current deadline.
The EU have been adamant for months that no new negotiations will take place.
It would seem that both candidates now accept this.
So Boris gets elected by a very old, 0.27% of the electorate.
Democracy?
Will of the people?
He is determined to get us out by Halloween, which probably means no deal.
Democracy?
Will of the People?
No deal was never even discussed during the referendum campaign.
Democracy?
Will of the people?
To accomplish this, he will probably forced into suspending Parliament.
Democracy?
Will of the people?
Assuming the Tories lose the Brecon by-election, their majority drops to 3.
This means only two Tories have to fall by the wayside to collapse the Government.
We then get a general election, another vote. This will be the third in 4 years. Yet they are supposed to occur every five years.
Democracy?
Will of the people?
Another possibility with the same result, is that the Tories could lose a no confidence vote.
There seem to be enough Tories prepared to vote against the Government, to make this happen.
How could you argue that a second referendum would be less democratic than the above?
Why is it ok to have any number of general elections in an attempt to break the deadlock?
A general election may not necessarily solve anything, if the Parliamentary arithmetic doesn't change.
What are you going to do then?
Another general election?
Just as a point of interest.
I was watching Politics Live yesterday.
Sarah Champion a Labour MP, who is in favour of leaving, claimed she didn't vote for the deal as she felt it was "a game of poker".
Incredible.
Champion said it was an “awful question” as to whether she would prefer no deal over no Brexit, but she said: “If it came to it I would take no deal if that meant we could leave.”
Champion appeared to suggest she had thought Labour MPs could get more concessions from May, and this had prevented her from backing the prime minister’s deal.
“It’s poker, isn’t it? And if I’m being completely honest, I hoped she would listen to what the Labour frontbench was saying and move and she didn’t. The extent she moved effectively caused her to be sacked.”
Asked whether she would back the government in a confidence vote in order to deliver a no deal, Champion said: “I don’t know. Ask me closer to the time.”
Several Labour MPs have expressed regret that they did not vote for May’s Brexit deal in March, before the EU’s extension, including Gareth Snell and Stephen Kinnock. “I made a mistake,” Snell told the House of Commons last month. Snell said Labour “will have been responsible for a no-deal Brexit by default because of our inability to make a decision”.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/16/id-take-no-deal-over-no-brexit-says-labours-sarah-champion
MPs are set for a crunch Brexit vote on Thursday after peers passed a plan designed to stop Boris Johnson suspending parliament to force through no deal.
The House of Lords set up a battle in the Commons by passing an amendment by 272 votes to 169, majority 103, aimed at ensuring parliament is sitting in the weeks leading up to the October 31 Brexit deadline.
MPs will now vote on the amendment amid fears that Johnson could prorogue - or simply dissolve - parliament in the weeks before Halloween to stop politicians passing laws to stop Britain leaving the EU without a deal.
The Tory leadership frontrunner has promised to deliver Brexit “do or die” by October 31, and has failed to rule out dissolving parliament to do so - a tactic which has been branded a “constitutional outrage”.
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/lords-pass-plan-stop-boris-155553266.html
The Daily Mirror reports the brother of the Manchester Arena bomber was flown back to Britain after a "secret deal" was struck with Libya. In return, the paper says, the UK has agreed to protect Tripoli in the country's civil war.
A source tells the Mirror that British officials negotiated with the UN-backed government as opposition forces closed in on the capital - making them an offer they dared not refuse.
Officials in Tripoli tell the Times that Hashem Abedi's extradition was delayed because Libyan citizens cannot be extradited to the UK.
The problem was apparently solved after the 22-year-old's nationality was "removed".
The Guardian leads on Theresa May's last major speech - describing it as a "defensive swipe" at those in her party who pursue ideological purity at any price.
But it says she repeatedly declined the opportunity for self-reflection when asked if she herself had been too unwilling to compromise.
Patrick Maguire, in the New Statesman, says it was a "surreal" and "barely believable" performance - highlighting a "glaring contradiction" between Mrs May's rhetoric and her actions.
"Final speech hails skill she never used" is the Daily Mirror's take. The sketch writers are less kind. "Thunderingly banal and blisteringly bland," says Michael Deacon of the Daily Telegraph.
Boris Johnson is pictured waving a wrapped kipper on the front of some of the papers, as part of their coverage of the final Conservative leadership hustings.
The Daily Express says it handed the fish to Mr Johnson ahead of his speech, to make a point about the impact of EU regulations on a smokery on the Isle of Man. Staff there apparently have to include an icepack in packages sent to customers, increasing their production costs.
Over-75s are to be visited at home by TV licence "outreach teams" to make sure they pay up, reports the Daily Telegraph.
It has picked up on comments by a BBC executive who assured MPs on the Commons Digital, Culture, Media and Sport committee that the visits would be carried out "as sympathetically as possible".
Age UK tells the paper the situation has all the makings of a "slow-motion car crash" which could be "deeply upsetting" for elderly people.
The Times says US President Donald Trump's efforts to distance himself from the disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein have been dealt a blow, after footage emerged of them partying with cheerleaders in Florida, in 1992. It is one of many papers to show images from the film.
In it, Mr Trump pats a woman on the bottom, and jokes with Mr Epstein, who has been arrested on fresh charges of underage sex trafficking, which he denies.
The US magazine Vanity Fair says the footage is "nauseating". One of the cheerleaders tells the Washington Post that at the end of the night the future president was throwing people in a swimming pool, and that it was "all in good fun".
The Daily Mail worries the traditional police helmet - a symbol of law and order for more than 150 years - could be at risk of extinction. It points to a decision by the Gloucestershire Constabulary to outfit their officers with US-style baseball caps instead.
The Mail says it is an attempt to appeal to teens; critics tell the paper it makes officers look more like Burger King workers. The Daily Telegraph is deeply unimpressed. Its editorial says baseball caps are as un-British as baseball itself - and more associated with criminals than guardians of the law.
There is plenty of coverage of newly-released files from the National Archives.
The Daily Telegraph focuses on concern among officials in 1994 that John Major might cause embarrassment by inadvertently winning the first ever National Lottery draw.
And the Daily Mirror highlights a "top-level" probe by aides of Sir Winston Churchill after a rare Chinese vase disappeared from No 10 in the early 1950s.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-49026153
A Tory mutiny against Boris is our only hope
Even Michael Gove now considers Boris to have the character to take the ship’s helm – a remarkable feat of rodent dexterity and selective amnesia
Hammond 'terrified' by Rees-Mogg claim of no-deal Brexit boost
Chancellor rubbishes claim by Boris Johnson ally that no-deal exit could boost economy by £80bn
Philip Hammond, the chancellor, has said it is “terrifying” that one of Boris Johnson’s close allies, Jacob Rees-Mogg, believes a no-deal Brexit will boost the economy.
The chancellor, who is expected to exit the government next week, expressed his horror after Rees-Mogg used a Daily Telegraph opinion piece to dismiss the “pure silliness” of Treasury forecasts suggesting a £90bn hit to the economy.
Rees-Mogg claimed there were economic models that showed “the total positive impact of no deal could be in the region of about £80bn”.
Hammond hit back at the argument, saying on Twitter: “Happy to debate scale of negative impact of no deal on the economy – but terrifying that someone this close to a potential future government can think we’d actually be better off by adding barriers to access to our largest market.”
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/17/philip-hammond-terrified-by-jacob-rees-mogg-claim-of-no-deal-brexit-boost
Boris Johnson shoots down his own Brexit plan with bizarre kipper-waving rant
Handed the kipper before stepping on stage Mr Johnson waved the fish above his head to make a serious political point
Addressing the crowd in London last night at his final campaign performance, Mr Johnson whipped out the plastic-wrapped fish which he said he had been handed by a national newspaper editor.
Mr Johnson claimed a kipper smoker is "utterly furious" because apparently his costs have been increased by EU rules he said mean each fish must be accompanied by a plastic-wrapped ice pillow.
"Pointless, expensive, environmentally-damaging health and safety, ladies and gentlemen," Mr Johnson said.
He then joked that he would "bring back the kippers" a reference to winning back Ukip voters.
And then a large chunk of the audience - who were Conservative Party members - gave him a standing ovation.
Except Mr Johnson revealed that the kipper smoker is from the Isle of Man.
Which isn't in the European Union.
So why do fish exporters not in the EU follow the rules of the giant trading bloc - driving up the costs of humble kipper smokers?
Well because if it they didn't they wouldn't be allowed to sell those tasty flecks of smoked fish to the European market.
And this - economists, international trade experts and lawyers have warned - is basically what is going to happen to the UK in a post Brexit trade deal.
Rather than freeing fish smokers - and you know almost everyone else - from the trading rules of the EU it instead means you become a rule taker rather than a rule maker.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-launches-bizarre-nonsensical-18332494
Britain will fall into recession next year if it crashes out of the EU without a deal, the government's official spending watchdog has said.
The Office for Budget Responsibility analysed a particular type of a no-deal Brexit - the less disruptive of the two presented by the IMF in its World Economic Outlook, published in April.
Even in that scenario "heightened uncertainty and declining confidence deter investment, while higher trade barriers with the EU weigh on exports", the OBR said. "Together, these push the economy into recession, with asset prices and the pound falling sharply."
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/no-deal-brexit-tip-uk-084300475.html
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/brexit-contributed-far-bigger-fall-063522670.html
Brexit lies: Andrew Bridgen goes for the world record for most lies in 140 seconds
He was trying to make a point about an Isle of Man based, kipper smoking company, having to comply with EU regulations in regard to a compulsory plastic-wrapped ice pillow in the packaging, which obviously increased their costs, and reduced their profits.
There were only three problems with this.
1 The Isle of Man is not in the EU.
2 They were not EU regulations.
3 They were UK regulations.
Although a Brit blaming the EU for stuff they are not responsible for should hardly come as a surprise.
The vote in The House of Commons this afternoon, was won by those not in favour of suspending Parliament, and has apparently blocked this as an option for Boris, if he had any plans to sneak through a no deal, by getting the MPs out of the way.
There are apparently plans afoot to stop a no deal, and according to the experts there are enough MPs who don't support no deal, to stop it happening.
Boris cant get out of the promised "we are out on 31st October, do or die"
He has ruled out any further extensions.
He has ripped up the Withdrawal Agreement, and binned the backstop.
The new EU leaders don't arrive until 1st November.
The old EU negotiating team is disbanded.
In the UK, there is the Summer Recess, then the Conferences.
The choices are narrowing.
The EU are dead against reopening negotiations, even if there was time.
There is no majority for revoking article 50, unless maybe the choice was that or no deal.
There is no majority yet for another referendum.
A general Election?
That wouldn't necessary solve anything, and probably need an extension to organise.
Boris may well end up dying rather than doing by the 31st October.
The one huge disadvantage if it drags on or we stay in, is that we will have to put up with Nigel Farage for longer.
Getting rid of him is nearly worth a no deal disaster in October, but not quite.
They are even contemplating giving him a Peerage to get shot of him.
The vote by MPs to block any attempt to suspend Parliament in order to force through a no-deal Brexit is the lead for several newspapers.
The Guardian says MPs have given Boris Johnson a brutal preview of the scale of the challenge facing him if he becomes prime minister. His life has become more difficult, the i says.
Cartoons in the Times and the Daily Telegraph show Mr Johnson bound and tied up following yesterday's vote. It's a prospect that horrifies some; the Telegraph describes it as a monumental act of self-harm. Any Tory who genuinely wants Mr Johnson to rescue an agreement, the paper says, should give him as much latitude as possible.
In the Sun's view, the vote is not some noble defence of democracy - but simply a move to make it harder to honour the referendum result by leaving the EU with no deal. But the i says the idea that Parliament could be suspended at a critical moment in national history is outrageous, robbing MPs of an opportunity to debate and vote on our future.
The politics.co.uk website says the vote shows Parliament is ready to stand up for itself in the battles to come with the executive. British constitutional democracy is fighting back, it declares.
The Daily Telegraph lays the blame for the rebellion at the door of the chancellor, with the headline: "Hammond stirs up trouble for Boris in Brexit parting shot".
It says Theresa May has been accused of a final act of weakness in failing to discipline either the chancellor or seven other ministers who abstained from the vote.
The Financial Times notes that while Tory Eurosceptics repeatedly thwarted Mrs May's Brexit deal, Mr Johnson now faces a mirror-image group of Europhile rebels who are determined to stop him from carrying out a no-deal exit.
The Times reports three cabinet ministers are preparing to quit on the day Mr Johnson becomes prime minister if, as expected, he wins the Tory leadership race. According to the paper, Justice Secretary David Gauke is set to resign soon after Theresa May completes her final Prime Minister's Questions.
Chancellor Philip Hammond and International Development Secretary Rory Stewart are also considering departing before Mr Johnson arrives, it adds. The paper says the resignations will deny the new PM the chance to sack the strongest opponents of a no-deal Brexit.
The Daily Express leads with a pledge by Mr Johnson to end what it calls the cruel injustice of people having to sell their home to cover the cost of dementia care. In an interview with the paper, he says he wants to build a cross-party consensus to find a solution.
As part of its campaign on the issue, the Daily Mail carries a poll which suggests one in three people with dementia have been forced to sell their home to pay for care. Just over 1,000 people were questioned for the survey and 27% of those who took part said they had spent more than £50,000 on care.
According to the Daily Mirror's main story, Tory plans to save cash by removing free TV licences could backfire and add £1.6bn to the welfare bill. The paper reports the BBC's decision to limit free licences to over-75s on pension credit will spark a rush to sign up for the benefit, which could cost twice what is saved.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-49040625
Suspending parliament so that MPs cannot stop the next prime minister forcing through a no-deal Brexit "may have to happen", Jacob Rees-Mogg has said.
The leading Tory Eurosceptic said he did not support a lengthy prorogation but that parliament could have to be closed for one or two days.
The admission came as anti-Brexit MPs reportedly mull a plan to ask the Queen to intervene if the next prime minister, expected to be Boris Johnson, tries to prorogue parliament. Tory members have just three days left to vote for who they want to succeed Theresa May.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-news-live-boris-johnson-queen-no-deal-parliament-a9011751.html
Hi-tech solutions to avoid Irish border checks three years away, so existing deal should be beefed up – not ripped up
Boris Johnson must drop his insistence that Theresa May’s Brexit deal is “dead” and sign a reworked agreement according to a final version of a study hailed by the next likely prime minister as a solution to the Irish border crisis.
The U-turn is recommended in a report on hi-tech solutions to avoid border checks, which calls for the existing deal to be beefed up – not ripped up, as the likely next prime minister wants.
Mr Johnson had hailed the “abundant” solutions in its interim report into so-called “alternative arrangements” as proof that the Irish backstop could be taken out of the divorce deal altogether.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-boris-johnson-irish-border-theresa-may-deal-technology-alternative-arrangements-a9010586.html
The Great EU Food Safety scandal is no more a reality than supposing that everyone on the Isle of Man, like their famous emblem, has got three legs. But if it got him to No 10, he’d probably say that too
It is highly appropriate, not to say ironic, that this latest of a long and depressing line of Boris Johnson’s amusing European “stories”, demonstrated by holding a kipper up at a hustings to make a point about EU safety rules, turns out be entirely fictional.
No matter what the angry man on the Isle of Man may have thought about the packaging he is required to use to transport his smoked herring, the rules are Made in Britain, so to speak. They are all about food safety, and maintaining the integrity of the kipper as the nation’s breakfast fish of choice (as featured in the famous episode of Fawlty Towers entitled “The Kipper and the Corpse”).
So, once again, Johnson’s creative approach to the truth leaves him looking as two-faced as the kippers he was waving aloft in the final Tory hustings event. His flair for publicity is as lively as ever.
We should remind ourselves that he once told readers of The Daily Telegraph, when he was the newspaper’s Brussels correspondent, that a problem with asbestos meant that the European Union’s grandiose Brussels headquarters building, the Berlaymont, would have to be “blown up”.
A quarter of a century on, it is still standing and still, no doubt, hatching plans to imprison greengrocers selling carrots by the pound, to outlaw bent bananas and reclassify snails as fish – though in reality these dastardly schemes took place only in Johnson’s imagination.
But even were it true that pettifogging Eurocrats had imposed an intolerable burden upon the venerable smoked fish houses of the Isle of Man (technically not even a member of the EU), we, and the kippermen and kipperwomen of Peel and Port Erin, should reflect upon the economics of the kipper.
No different to Welsh lamb, Red Leicester or salmon from Scotland, British and crown dependency kippers have to be exported to the European Union with the greatest of ease, with as little impediment and friction as possible, for optimal taste.
The loss of a market of the size and prosperity as the European Union far outweighs any number of silly regulations. Every jurisdiction on earth has its own eccentric little ways, the sort of thing that attracts the attention of journalists and propagandists such as Johnson.
They make for a good page five lead, or the germ of some columnal flight of fancy, or a nice bit of bait for web traffic. All fine. They do not though, form the basis of an economic policy.
Because it is not fact. The Great Kipper Scandal of 2019 is no more a reality than supposing that everyone on the Isle of Man, like their famous emblem, has got three legs. You can be sure, though, that if Johnson thought that to say it would get him into No 10, he would claim that they did. Then he would double down by adding that Ursula von der Leyen was plotting to make Manx cats wear artificial tails in an effort to harmonise them with fictional varieties from Bavaria, Silesia and Wallachia, as required by the latest EU Directive MO-66Y (2019): Euro-cats invented by Eurocrats.
See how easy it is?
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/boris-johnson-kipper-rant-tory-hustings-isle-man-a9010591.html
Boris Johnson will be the last prime minister of the UK unless there are moves to protect the union which is “hanging by a thread”, Gordon Brown has warned.
The former prime minister predicted the combination of “Boris and Brexit” will be at the heart of the SNP’s independence campaign, which he said could see the 300-year-old union “bite the dust”.
Mr Brown called for a “positive, patriotic and progressive” case for Scotland’s role in the UK, contrasting it with “Boris Johnson’s history of casual hostility and the shrill and economically suicidal separatist obsessions of the SNP”.
Arguing Scottish independence would be an “even worse financial catastrophe” for Scotland’s economy, communities and citizens than a no-deal Brexit, Mr Brown claimed £50 billion of Scottish trade and up to a million jobs would be at risk from leaving the UK
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/boris-johnson-could-be-the-last-ever-uk-prime-minister-warns-gordon-brown-165140236.html
The strong indication by Chancellor Philip Hammond that he could back moves to bring down a Conservative government in order to stop a no-deal Brexit, is criticised in several quarters.
The Daily Express calls it an astonishing act of betrayal. Not for years, the Sun declares, has a man dishonoured high office as Philip Hammond is now doing.
In the Daily Mail's view, it's a source of huge concern that he and several other disaffected - and soon to be sacked - cabinet ministers are plotting to destabilise their new leader before he's even got his feet under the desk.
The papers also report that Boris Johnson is finalising his cabinet over the weekend in anticipation of him winning the Tory leadership contest on Tuesday.
The Guardian says many of his allies will expect to see their support rewarded with a plum promotion, but - it adds - how can he keep everyone happy when he has more backers than jobs to go round?
The Mail understands that he's determined to promote talented women to replace female allies of Theresa May who are likely to leave - with former Education Secretary Nicky Morgan tipped for a return.
The Telegraph reveals that another figure who could make a cabinet comeback is the former Brexit Secretary, David Davis, who it says is in talks with Mr Johnson.
According to the paper, Mr Davis, is understood to be in line to become either chancellor or foreign secretary after telling Mr Johnson he wouldn't settle for a lesser role.
The Times reports that Priti Patel could return to the cabinet as international trade secretary and Jacob Rees-Mogg is being considered for chief secretary to the Treasury.
The paper also reports that a former chief economics adviser to Mr Johnson and prominent Brexiteer, Gerard Lyons, has been interviewed by officials for the role of Bank of England governor. Mark Carney - the present governor - is stepping down at the end of the year.
The paper says Mr Lyons had argued in a newspaper article that a no-deal Brexit may be the "only viable option" for leaving the EU.
Pension scams
An investigation by the Times has found that pension scams are costing British savers up to £4bn a year.
According to the paper, celebrities have been caught up in alleged frauds.
It discovered that one of Britain's best-known TV broadcasters - who can't be named for legal reasons - moved more than £1m into an offshore pension scheme that is now feared to have collapsed.
Why has the HS2 high-speed railway line become so expensive, the Financial Times asks.
It considers some of the reasons for the warning by the chairman of HS2 that the final cost could go up by as much as £30bn.
Speed comes at a price, the paper explains, and reducing the number of bends in the track, forcing the route through difficult countryside, and increasing the amount of tunnelling, all push up costs.
Two-thirds of the route is below surface level, requiring extensive excavation and landscaping, the paper adds.
Finally, the 50th anniversary of the first Moon landing is widely celebrated - with features, supplements and posters.
The Times and the Sun come with wrap-around covers featuring images from that historic day.
The Guardian says Neil Armstrong's footprints on the powdery lunar surface changed the way we saw ourselves, confirming that humanity could escape its earthly coils.
The mission unleashed a dream of what we as a species might do.
The Financial Times thinks it's time for another lunar landing that includes female astronauts.
But it wants the next missions to lay the foundation of a long-term human presence, leading to a permanently inhabited colony.
It says the Moon could then become a base from which to explore asteroids, Mars and the solar system beyond.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-49053902
Nigel Farage complains about narrow margin of victory for new EU chief after she wins 52% of vote
Brexit Party leader mocked on social media
Nigel Farage is facing mockery after he claimed the new European Commission president lacked "legitimacy" because she won just 52 per cent of the vote.
Mr Farage said Ursula von der Leyen had "power but no legitimacy" after she scraped in by nine votes in a ballot in the European Parliament on Tuesday.
Critics were quick to point out that the incoming head of the EU executive won by the same margin as the Leave campaign during the 2016 EU referendum - when the result was 52 per cent to 48 per cent.