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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,039
    MISTY4ME said:

    Sorry HENDRIK, (or Paul, or Jimmy.... I never know which one you prefer :) ) when I said all, I didn't mean all the Asylum seekers or immigrants (legel or illegal), I meant all the ones trying to jump on, or stow away on the lorries coming to this country. If France has accepted them in, surely that's a better life than they had, or they wouldn't be there in the first place. So why can't they accept that France has a similar economy and lifestyle to the UK, that is better than where they've come from, and make the best of that, until one day they can return home if they choose to.

    Tim Martin may be an idiot in your opinion Tony, but if he has nothing to contribute, why does he keep being asked to be on TV? You have to listen to both sides of the argument. He's also a very successful "idiot" and has made more money than even you, and as I frequent his establishments, and enjoy contributing to his company's profits and therefore his wealth, I respect his opinion :)

    The problem is that they have not been accepted in France. The French have destroyed the camps that they were living in. They regularly confiscate tents, to ensure they don't become comfortable, and discourage them as much as possible.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,039

    If they have family who live here legitimately, then if they go through the correct processes they should be able to come here eventually.


    Of course this is true.
    I believe the Government are in the process of announcing a Sky tv type, "refer a friend" policy in respect of refugees.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,039
    If politicians know so little, what did they expect from normal people?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYGxUvtwCg0
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,039
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,039
    edited October 2018
    Incredible. Phil you need to watch this and lecture me on unelected representatives.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4vI0Uhy4ms
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,039
    Mercedes-Benz abandoned plans to move production to UK plant after Brexit vote

    Mercedes-Benz had been considering moving production to the UK ahead of the EU referendum in 2016, but decided against the move after the vote for Brexit, the carmaker’s chief executive has revealed.
    Dieter Zetsche, outgoing head of the brand, told Paris Motor Show attendees that he had begun negotiations with Nissan regarding potentially using its Sunderland plant to build Mercedes-Benz cars.
    “Before Brexit there was one project where we were looking at an option of producing cars in Sunderland together,” he said.


    https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/mercedes-benz-abandoned-plans-move-112000528.html
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,519
    There will always be idiots elected in UK parliaments. However, at least we can vote them out every 5 years, unlike unelected idiots.

    Euro elections were always just for a party, and the Party chose its members in huge areas. Much prefer that bit of the UK parliament, where you have a real MP.

    The UK electorate is totally different from 30 years ago. In 2005, UKIP was lagging behind a resurgent BNP, and there was some talk of a merger. In 2014 it was the largest party in a national vote, even though it's only recognisable policy was to do no work where it was seeking nomination. In 2018 it is once more largely an irrelevance. It's not just the UK-look how Macron has sprung from nowhere.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,039
    Essexphil said:

    There will always be idiots elected in UK parliaments. However, at least we can vote them out every 5 years, unlike unelected idiots.

    Euro elections were always just for a party, and the Party chose its members in huge areas. Much prefer that bit of the UK parliament, where you have a real MP.

    The UK electorate is totally different from 30 years ago. In 2005, UKIP was lagging behind a resurgent BNP, and there was some talk of a merger. In 2014 it was the largest party in a national vote, even though it's only recognisable policy was to do no work where it was seeking nomination. In 2018 it is once more largely an irrelevance. It's not just the UK-look how Macron has sprung from nowhere.

    I suppose that the argument is that lots of people seem to knock unelected officials, and sing the praises of elected MPs.
    Yet if unelected officials are incompetent they can be fired fairly quickly, but MPs that are unable to answer the simplest of questions are able to get elected, and re-elected time after time.

    People that feel left behind, and ignored will always be looking for an alternative to the two main parties. UKIP support has increased in recent months, despite the fact that their current leader speaks at Anti-Muslim rallies, and shares stages with Tommy Robinson.

    We have also had politicians that have been little known prior to becoming the party leader, and on some occasions Prime Minister.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,039
    Brexit to hit male manual workers in UK hardest, new research finds




    “Left behind” male manual workers are set to be some of the worst hit economically by Brexit, new research has found.
    In 2016 Theresa May said that liberalism and globalisation had “left too many people behind”, citing people on “modest to low incomes ... [who] see their jobs being outsourced and wages undercut” and attributed the Brexit result partly to this dissatisfaction.
    Polling has also shown that working class and less educated male voters were heavy supporters of leaving the EU.
    But the Institute for Fiscal Studies (IFS) in a new report today estimates that such workers are at “particular risk” from the new barriers to trade that are likely to be introduced after the UK leaves the EU.




    https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/brexit-hit-male-manual-workers-230643685.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,039
    ECJ to hear case on whether UK alone can reverse Brexit on Nov. 27 -source

    EDINBURGH, Oct (Shenzhen: 000069.SZ - news) 5 (Reuters) - The European Court of Justice has set a Nov. 27 date for a hearing to decide whether Britain's parliament can unilaterally change its mind on Brexit, a legal source told Reuters, adding that the case is moving fast.
    Scottish lawmakers opposed to Brexit filed a petition with Scotland's Court of Session last year to show that Britain has a unilateral option of staying in the world's biggest trading bloc, once the outcome of Brexit is known.
    They argue that while there is no legal doubt that Britain could stop Brexit with the permission of the other 27 EU member states, it should seek to establish a legal right to do so unilaterally, whether the rest of the bloc likes it or not.

    https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/ecj-hear-case-whether-uk-143207973.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,039
    The only real ‘Brexit dividend’ comes from not leaving


    I know that Theresa May is beleaguered on all sides – not least her own – but did she realise what she was saying when she “warned” the Conservative conference that divisions over Brexit “could stop the UK leaving entirely”?
    Since stopping the UK leaving entirely is just what we Remainers wish to achieve, one can but marvel at the prime minister’s pronouncement. I am tempted to add “long live the divisions”, but the truth is that the sooner this Brexit fantasy is put to rest, the better.
    My old friend Sir Mike Rake, the former president of the CBI, recently warned a City audience that we were on the verge of an economic and constitutional crisis. He is not given to hyperbole, and speaks for many businesspeople who live in the real world, and not on the Planet Fantasy occupied by Boris Johnson, Jacob Rees-Mogg and their ilk.

    It was bad enough when the chancellor, Philip Hammond, held out the prospect last week of a “deal dividend” the Treasury cannot possibly believe in. There is hardly a respected economic institution that concludes, after rigorous analysis, that Brexit would do anything other than reduce the British economy’s underlying growth rate.
    Far from there being a prospective dividend from Brexit, the government’s own analysis earlier this year concluded that any form of Brexit would in effect be an own goal. Over a 15-year period the so-called Canada-type free-trade deal could result in a loss of almost 5% of GDP, and Theresa May’s “no deal’s better than a bad deal”, relying on WTO rules, would be likely to result in a loss of almost 8%. Even the much-discussed Norway option – continued membership of the European Economic Area – would involve a loss of 1.6%, as well as a loss of influence over EU decisions.

    There is no such thing as a Brexit dividend. The only possible dividend would result from the abandonment of the entire Brexit project so that investment which has been held up during this period of dreadful uncertainty can be implemented.



    https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/only-real-brexit-dividend-comes-060003725.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,039
    Lloyd's of London accelerating Brexit contingency plans - BBC

    LONDON (Reuters) - The outgoing chief executive of insurance market Lloyd's of London, Inga Beale, said her firm is accelerating Brexit contingency plans to transfer contracts to a Brussels subsidiary as she feel Britain is getting closer to leaving the European Union without a deal.


    https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/lloyds-london-accelerating-brexit-contingency-plans-bbc-100110197--business.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,039
    Brexit: SNP would back 'People's Vote' calls, says Sturgeon


    SNP MPs would back a new Brexit referendum if it were put to them, party leader Nicola Sturgeon has said.
    Campaigners have been pressing for a fresh vote on whatever exit plans result from talks with EU leaders.
    PM Theresa May has rejected calls for a so-called People's Vote and while Labour has not ruled it out, it wants a general election to decide the issue.
    Ms Sturgeon said SNP MPs would oppose anything short of staying in the single market and customs union.


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics/uk_leaves_the_eu
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,039

    Aviation regulator 'rebuffed' over no-deal Brexit plan


    If the UK leaves the EU without reaching a deal, the EU would not recognise certificates, approvals and licences issued by the CAA.
    This could stop new aviation parts made in the UK - like wings constructed by Airbus - being put on EU planes.
    British pilots with UK licences flying EU-registered aircraft would need to get second licences from another EU state or transfer their licences there.
    The UK wants to participate in EASA after Brexit. Failing that, officials seek a deal where the EU and UK aviation authorities recognise each other's standards.
    EASA has recently offered some UK aviation businesses the chance to be approved as "third county" suppliers to the EU, which means they could carry on doing business in the EU.
    But not all areas of aviation are covered.
    Although there are international agreements, there is no aviation equivalent of the World Trade Organization that would allow flights to continue seamlessly after a no-deal Brexit.


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45755047
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,039
    Manual workers 'most at risk from Brexit trade barriers'


    Men with fewer qualifications in manual jobs are more likely to be hit by post-Brexit trade barriers, according to the Institute for Fiscal Studies (IFS).
    Factory workers in industries that sell a large amount to the EU are particularly at risk, the IFS warned.
    A number of studies have indicated that people with lower or no qualifications were more likely to vote Leave.


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45746905
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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,039
    Tikay10 said:


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    Brilliant.
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