As a minor aside, I went to Brussels yesterday via the excellent & seamless Eurostar. Get on in London, ride though England & France, arrive in Belgium (in fact, could continue on to Amsterdam in Holland) without being troubled by Customs posts. All very civilised & convenient.
Presumably, in the event of "No Deal", all that would change & we'd have to go through Customs at each border?
What does a 'no deal' Brexit mean and how bad could it get?
What might this mean in practice? The extreme scenario raised by Hammond would be one in which even basic infrastructure arrangements such as airline treaties are not replaced, preventing UK carriers from landing at EU27 airports. Some in the aviation industry say this is not so far-fetched and could begin to bite as soon as this March when they will be unable to guarantee the validity of tickets issued a year in advance. Ports and land crossings could be just as chaotic, with long queues of lorries waiting to clear customs and a politically explosive hard border returning to Northern Ireland. It is even possible that progress in negotiations on citizens rights could be reversed, forcing EU citizens to leave the UK and imposing visa requirements on Britons travelling to Europe.
Wow-a sensible debate with lots of interesting, relevant and up to date contributions..my how the tone and intelligence of the thread has changed....( for the better I might add)
Wow-a sensible debate with lots of interesting, relevant and up to date contributions..my how the tone and intelligence of the thread has changed....( for the better I might add)
Why have Borders at all ..... We're all Citizens of the World no need for passports just jump on a bike, train, plane go anywhere you want. Why have tariffs' on trade either, four chickens and a sheep ..... for your wood burning stove. Hic!
Why have Borders at all ..... We're all Citizens of the World no need for passports just jump on a bike, train, plane go anywhere you want. Why have tariffs' on trade either, four chickens and a sheep ..... for your wood burning stove. Hic!
Just when the thread levels out and gets informative the village has an inset day.
Why have Borders at all ..... We're all Citizens of the World no need for passports just jump on a bike, train, plane go anywhere you want. Why have tariffs' on trade either, four chickens and a sheep ..... for your wood burning stove. Hic!
Just when the thread levels out and gets informative the village has an inset day.
'No deal' Brexit would force many UK firms into EU shift - BCC
LONDON (Reuters) - One in five British companies would move at least some of their operations to the European Union in the event of a "no-deal" Brexit, according to a survey on Friday. A similar proportion said they would cut investment and jobs, the British Chambers of Commerce (BCC) said.
UK business investment falls as Brexit uncertainty strikes UK firms
Business investment fell again in the second quarter of 2018, suggesting that uncertainty over Brexit is hitting firms’ spending. The Office for National Statistics (ONS) estimated on Friday that investment by companies fell by 0.7 per cent in the three months to June, following a contraction of 0.5 per cent in the first quarter. The data follows a finding by the Bank of England’s network of regional agents that firms are putting investment on hold, or diverting it abroad, due to fears about new trade frictions with the European Union.
Corporal Jones? Yes it was bad. I was hoping Jacob Rees-Mogg would get a real bashing. I have got a real problem with the Brexiteer stance against another referendum. If the result was the same, then what would be lost? If the result changed, then we might escape a mess. What are they afraid of? It should clearly be a choice of the deal we get, or staying in. You cant betray democracy, by having more democracy.
All the oldies that voted to leave and are now dead don't matter, but all the youngsters that were too young to vote in 2016, but aren't now, do.
THIS MAN WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DO THIS AFTER BREXIT BECASUSE OF THE LONG QUEUES OF TRAFFIC.
Man caught having sex with blow-up doll at the side of the M1 on lorry dashcam
A man’s rather intimate roadside moment with a blow-up doll was reportedly caught on camera. Police have launched an investigation after footage of a man appearing to have sex with the inflatable sex toy at the side of the M1 was captured on dash cam footage of a lorry. The clip sees a man standing in a grassy area just beyond the hard shoulder, the sex doll is held in front of him.
Haysie-you are starting to sound like Corporal Jones
PS-how bad was Question Time last night? The sane one was Rees-Mogg!
You may well wish to accuse me of focusing on Brexit bad news. Yet, I can assure that I am just determinedly concentrated on presenting a completely biased, and one sided view.
Brexit can be stopped 'for sure', claims France's Macron (who 'doesn't want to interfere in UK politics')
French president Emmanuel Macron has said Brexit could be stopped ‘for sure’. Adding to his previous criticism of the UK’s decision to leave the EU, he said that the issue was much more complicated than Leave voters realised and that Brussels would welcome back Britain if it changed its mind. Speaking at a climate meeting in New York, Mr Macron was asked whether the bloc would “have the UK back” if it changed its mind about Brexit. “For sure,” he told Bloomberg.
BETH RIGBY ENDS UP BATTERING HIM IN AN "EXCLUSIVE" INTERVIEW THAT HE GAVE TO THREE DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
Ex-foreign secretary Boris Johnson tells Sky's Beth Rigby why he stands by his controversial comments on women wearing burkas and why the Chequers deal is like a 'suicide vest' for the UK.
Boris Johnson has told ITV News Political Editor Robert Peston that he feels a personal responsibility to Leave voters to deliver the Brexit they voted for but is unsure whether the Prime Minister’s plan is better than staying in the European Union.
Toyota says no-deal Brexit would stall production at Burnaston
Toyota UK has told the BBC a no-deal Brexit would temporarily halt output at its plant in Burnaston, near Derby. The Japanese carmaker is one of the biggest in the UK and Burnaston produced nearly 150,000 cars last year, 90% for export to the European Union. Its just-in-time production relies on components imported from the EU. A spokesperson for the UK government said it is still "confident of securing a good deal". Toyota says it cannot predict how long a stoppage would last, but unions fear that if long-term damage is inflicted it could result in job losses.
5. We do not trust what we perceive as unelected Commissioners telling us what we can and cannot do. We have never understood the different strands of European Union governance.
I just spent an hour of my life, which I can never get back, watching Andrew Marr. One of the interviews was with Tom Watson. Just about the whole interview was spent discussing Labours position on Brexit. He must have mentioned their famous "six tests" around 25 times. Everyone knows that it is impossible for anyone to get any deal that meets these six tests. Yet he maintains that Labour will vote against any deal that doesn't meet the tests. This will automatically put us in a no deal position. Everyone in Labour seems keen to talk about the six tests, but none of them are keen to talk about the resultant no deal disaster.
Theresa May appeared, and was keen to talk about her Chequers plan. This is a plan that was described by Boris Johnson as "deranged." The EU have said that it wont work, and seems to have little support in her own party. Yet she still talks about it with a surprising level of enthusiasm. It would seem impossible for this plan to survive a parliamentary vote, even if it was agreed by the EU.
So to summarise this was a programme dominated by two senior ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES, enthusiastically discussing the impossible as though it were possible. Not many people would have been taken in.
THIS MAN WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DO THIS AFTER BREXIT BECASUSE OF THE LONG QUEUES OF TRAFFIC.
Man caught having sex with blow-up doll at the side of the M1 on lorry dashcam
A man’s rather intimate roadside moment with a blow-up doll was reportedly caught on camera. Police have launched an investigation after footage of a man appearing to have sex with the inflatable sex toy at the side of the M1 was captured on dash cam footage of a lorry. The clip sees a man standing in a grassy area just beyond the hard shoulder, the sex doll is held in front of him.
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What does a 'no deal' Brexit mean and how bad could it get?
What might this mean in practice?
The extreme scenario raised by Hammond would be one in which even basic infrastructure
arrangements such as airline treaties are not replaced, preventing UK carriers from landing at EU27 airports. Some in the aviation industry say this is not so far-fetched and could begin to bite as soon as this March when they will be unable to guarantee the validity of tickets issued a year in advance. Ports and land crossings could be just as chaotic, with long queues of lorries waiting to clear customs and a politically explosive hard border returning to Northern Ireland. It is even possible that progress in negotiations on citizens rights could be reversed, forcing EU citizens to leave the UK and imposing visa requirements on Britons travelling to Europe.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/oct/19/brexit-what-does-no-deal-mean-and-how-bad-could-it-get
9 things that will happen on No Deal Brexit Day
You can fly to Dublin, Dublin, or Dublin.
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2017/07/9-things-will-happen-no-deal-brexit-day
Travel 'disruption' to flights, coaches and buses anticipated in event of no-deal Brexit
http://www.itv.com/news/2018-09-24/how-a-no-deal-brexit-could-affect-travel-pets-food-and/
Havent a clue.
Why have Borders at all ..... We're all Citizens of the World no need for passports just jump on a bike, train, plane go anywhere you want. Why have tariffs' on trade either, four chickens and a sheep ..... for your wood burning stove. Hic!
Just when the thread levels out and gets informative the village has an inset day.
Agreed.
LONDON (Reuters) - One in five British companies would move at least some of their operations to the European Union in the event of a "no-deal" Brexit, according to a survey on Friday.
A similar proportion said they would cut investment and jobs, the British Chambers of Commerce (BCC) said.
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/no-deal-brexit-force-many-uk-firms-eu-001608291--finance.html
Business investment fell again in the second quarter of 2018, suggesting that uncertainty over Brexit is hitting firms’ spending.
The Office for National Statistics (ONS) estimated on Friday that investment by companies fell by 0.7 per cent in the three months to June, following a contraction of 0.5 per cent in the first quarter.
The data follows a finding by the Bank of England’s network of regional agents that firms are putting investment on hold, or diverting it abroad, due to fears about new trade frictions with the European Union.
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/uk-business-investment-falls-brexit-094200656.html
PS-how bad was Question Time last night? The sane one was Rees-Mogg!
Yes it was bad. I was hoping Jacob Rees-Mogg would get a real bashing.
I have got a real problem with the Brexiteer stance against another referendum.
If the result was the same, then what would be lost?
If the result changed, then we might escape a mess.
What are they afraid of?
It should clearly be a choice of the deal we get, or staying in.
You cant betray democracy, by having more democracy.
All the oldies that voted to leave and are now dead don't matter, but all the youngsters that were too young to vote in 2016, but aren't now, do.
Man caught having sex with blow-up doll at the side of the M1 on lorry dashcam
A man’s rather intimate roadside moment with a blow-up doll was reportedly caught on camera.
Police have launched an investigation after footage of a man appearing to have sex with the inflatable sex toy at the side of the M1 was captured on dash cam footage of a lorry.
The clip sees a man standing in a grassy area just beyond the hard shoulder, the sex doll is held in front of him.
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/man-caught-sex-blow-doll-side-m1-lorry-dashcam-080151272.html
French president Emmanuel Macron has said Brexit could be stopped ‘for sure’.
Adding to his previous criticism of the UK’s decision to leave the EU, he said that the issue was much more complicated than Leave voters realised and that Brussels would welcome back Britain if it changed its mind.
Speaking at a climate meeting in New York, Mr Macron was asked whether the bloc would “have the UK back” if it changed its mind about Brexit.
“For sure,” he told Bloomberg.
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/brexit-can-stopped-claims-frances-macron-says-not-want-interfere-uk-politics-100708123.html
Ex-foreign secretary Boris Johnson tells Sky's Beth Rigby why he stands by his controversial comments on women wearing burkas and why the Chequers deal is like a 'suicide vest' for the UK.
Boris Johnson has told ITV News Political Editor Robert Peston that he feels a personal responsibility to Leave voters to deliver the Brexit they voted for but is unsure whether the Prime Minister’s plan is better than staying in the European Union.
Boris Johnson's Brexit plan ‘unworkable'
Toyota UK has told the BBC a no-deal Brexit would temporarily halt output at its plant in Burnaston, near Derby.
The Japanese carmaker is one of the biggest in the UK and Burnaston produced nearly 150,000 cars last year, 90% for export to the European Union.
Its just-in-time production relies on components imported from the EU.
A spokesperson for the UK government said it is still "confident of securing a good deal".
Toyota says it cannot predict how long a stoppage would last, but unions fear that if long-term damage is inflicted it could result in job losses.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45676633
I just spent an hour of my life, which I can never get back, watching Andrew Marr.
One of the interviews was with Tom Watson.
Just about the whole interview was spent discussing Labours position on Brexit.
He must have mentioned their famous "six tests" around 25 times. Everyone knows that it is impossible for anyone to get any deal that meets these six tests.
Yet he maintains that Labour will vote against any deal that doesn't meet the tests.
This will automatically put us in a no deal position.
Everyone in Labour seems keen to talk about the six tests, but none of them are keen to talk about the resultant no deal disaster.
Theresa May appeared, and was keen to talk about her Chequers plan.
This is a plan that was described by Boris Johnson as "deranged."
The EU have said that it wont work, and seems to have little support in her own party.
Yet she still talks about it with a surprising level of enthusiasm.
It would seem impossible for this plan to survive a parliamentary vote, even if it was agreed by the EU.
So to summarise this was a programme dominated by two senior ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES, enthusiastically discussing the impossible as though it were possible.
Not many people would have been taken in.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/video-shows-naked-man-blow-13310754
Maajid's Impassioned Swipe At Boris Johnson: The Balloon Buffoon