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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,894
    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    After googling for Brexit news, there’s still nothing to see.
    Nothing we don’t already know. Exciting times!

    Do you think we should remain closely aligned and protect the economy, or diverge and purposely damage it?

    And why?

    Do you think Boris has a mandate to diverge?

    If so where from?

    Does leaving with a Norway plus deal, still amount to leaving?

    As we already conduct some checks between NI, and UK, which are done on the ferries to avoid delays. Do you think that in the light of the fact that we are about to employ 50,000 staff to process the additional post Brexit paperwork, in addition to a large number of extra Customs Officers. That we may have chosen to employ extra staff to carry out checks on the ferries, and therefore avoid delays, in order to avoid drug, and people smuggling, that this could have been implemented many years ago, and avoided any dead bodies turning up in trucks?

    Do you agree that we didn't need to leave the EU, to provide more protection for our borders?

    The Tory Party was fairly recently conducting an ABB campaign. This stood for anyone but Boris. What changed?

    Boris has made it clear that he will not extend the EU trade negotiations past the end of December. Do you agree with this?

    Or do you think he should focus on the best deal for the UK, however long that takes?

    Do you think we will attract many foreign manufacturers to the UK, post Brexit. Or do you think that they will be more likely to set up in Europe, to access a bigger market?
    I don’t mind checks, as that’s showing responsibility.

    Why haven't they done them before?


    Whether or not this Government sticks to this year for a deal of some sort to be done who knows.

    Why have an unnecessary deadline, that may jeopardise the deal?

    Boris had clearly stated that he wont extend the transition, and we will leave at the end of the year, with or without a deal.


    Obv the strategy is to focus on doing whatever deal may be possible in a shorter than the average time.Focuses the minds, which can’t be a bad thing.


    Nonsense both sides want a deal, and both sides lose out if there is no deal. That is a fact. Although you don't seem to be keen on facts.


    I would keep my strategy or intentions under wraps anyway.

    Impossible.


    But of course the media seem to think they need to know everything.

    The media has a responsibility to inform the electorate.



    Coming out of the EU and alignment with their rules doesn’t look a good mix.

    Only if you wished to cause the most damage possible to our economy.



    Don’t hold your breath for alignment .

    I am not, Boris has already decided.



    There could be a challenging recession due to the virus, even more by the disruption.
    That could potentially change attitudes towards any deals.

    Causing more damage, but irrelevant to the deal.

    If the virus causes damage to the economy, which seems likely, then it is all the more reason to lose as little trade as possible with the EU.

    That is not the Boris plan.


    Maybe we should get our arses over to Mexico, it could be the new China.
    I think China will fall out of favor.
    I’ve been telling a Property developer I do work for, for a number of years that Carney should have increased rates, then you have wiggle room for cuts if there’s a crisis.
    First Carney says the BOE aren’t going to move until the unemployment hits his target, which it did. Then he says it’s not going to move unless there’s inflation, which he apparently says there wasn’t, even though I could personally see there was.
    Yup, I don’t like Carney,and vice versa I hope👍

    Yawn.


    Were the questions too difficult?

    I think this is a very half hearted attempt at a response.
    Yawn? By cutting interest rates you can maybe save businesses and jobs.
    Too late now though.
    What have interest rates got to do with Brexit?
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,894
    chilling said:

    I can’t for some reason reply to Haysies questions as the posts are too long.



    The questions were quite short.

    That just sounds like an excuse.


    Are the media sitting in on negotiations? Are they being live streamed?Dont think so.


    There are 2 lobby briefings per day, as we previously discussed.
    The Government have always used the press to communicate with the electorate.


    You seem unaware that there is a Parliament channel on the telly?

    Ever heard of Hansard?




    Re Tony Blair. He did do some very good things for the NHS, but also some very bad things.


    His Government was responsible for the highest funding levels for the NHS.
    That is a fact that must hurt you deeply.
    He later blotted his copybook, when he became responsible for world terrorism.





    If all you want is a shorter waiting time, I’m sure that’s quite an easy fix.



    The Tories have had 10 years so far to fix it, without any success.





    But if you’re referring to funding to the whole of the NHS, then my black hole awaits.



    Which black hole?
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,783
    I suspect that the "black hole" is that the NHS will ALWAYS demand more money, regardless of how much money you throw at it.

    You could spend the entire UK GDP on the NHS, and it still would leave gaps.
  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774
    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    I can’t for some reason reply to Haysies questions as the posts are too long.



    The questions were quite short.

    That just sounds like an excuse.


    Are the media sitting in on negotiations? Are they being live streamed?Dont think so.


    There are 2 lobby briefings per day, as we previously discussed.
    The Government have always used the press to communicate with the electorate.


    You seem unaware that there is a Parliament channel on the telly?

    Ever heard of Hansard?




    Re Tony Blair. He did do some very good things for the NHS, but also some very bad things.


    His Government was responsible for the highest funding levels for the NHS.
    That is a fact that must hurt you deeply.
    He later blotted his copybook, when he became responsible for world terrorism.





    If all you want is a shorter waiting time, I’m sure that’s quite an easy fix.



    The Tories have had 10 years so far to fix it, without any success.





    But if you’re referring to funding to the whole of the NHS, then my black hole awaits.



    Which black hole?
    Give me a figure on how much it would take to fund each individual being seen straight away across all departments. I presume that’s your ideal.
    It’s been underfunded true, but if it had and extra 50,000 beds now, that wouldn’t cover an epidemic of 200,000+. Even more worst case.
    The economic power world list, lists the U.K. in 6th place.Italy are listed as in 8th.
    China and the USA are top.
    None are capable of fully coping with an epidemic, hence China building new hospitals.
    I would presume the U.K. would have to do the same as China.
    Use sports centers, halls, conference centers , hotels etc.
    I think you’re looking for a fairy godmother for PM.
  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774
    Bec
    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    After googling for Brexit news, there’s still nothing to see.
    Nothing we don’t already know. Exciting times!

    Do you think we should remain closely aligned and protect the economy, or diverge and purposely damage it?

    And why?

    Do you think Boris has a mandate to diverge?

    If so where from?

    Does leaving with a Norway plus deal, still amount to leaving?

    As we already conduct some checks between NI, and UK, which are done on the ferries to avoid delays. Do you think that in the light of the fact that we are about to employ 50,000 staff to process the additional post Brexit paperwork, in addition to a large number of extra Customs Officers. That we may have chosen to employ extra staff to carry out checks on the ferries, and therefore avoid delays, in order to avoid drug, and people smuggling, that this could have been implemented many years ago, and avoided any dead bodies turning up in trucks?

    Do you agree that we didn't need to leave the EU, to provide more protection for our borders?

    The Tory Party was fairly recently conducting an ABB campaign. This stood for anyone but Boris. What changed?

    Boris has made it clear that he will not extend the EU trade negotiations past the end of December. Do you agree with this?

    Or do you think he should focus on the best deal for the UK, however long that takes?

    Do you think we will attract many foreign manufacturers to the UK, post Brexit. Or do you think that they will be more likely to set up in Europe, to access a bigger market?
    I don’t mind checks, as that’s showing responsibility.

    Why haven't they done them before?


    Whether or not this Government sticks to this year for a deal of some sort to be done who knows.

    Why have an unnecessary deadline, that may jeopardise the deal?

    Boris had clearly stated that he wont extend the transition, and we will leave at the end of the year, with or without a deal.


    Obv the strategy is to focus on doing whatever deal may be possible in a shorter than the average time.Focuses the minds, which can’t be a bad thing.


    Nonsense both sides want a deal, and both sides lose out if there is no deal. That is a fact. Although you don't seem to be keen on facts.


    I would keep my strategy or intentions under wraps anyway.

    Impossible.


    But of course the media seem to think they need to know everything.

    The media has a responsibility to inform the electorate.



    Coming out of the EU and alignment with their rules doesn’t look a good mix.

    Only if you wished to cause the most damage possible to our economy.



    Don’t hold your breath for alignment .

    I am not, Boris has already decided.



    There could be a challenging recession due to the virus, even more by the disruption.
    That could potentially change attitudes towards any deals.

    Causing more damage, but irrelevant to the deal.

    If the virus causes damage to the economy, which seems likely, then it is all the more reason to lose as little trade as possible with the EU.

    That is not the Boris plan.


    Maybe we should get our arses over to Mexico, it could be the new China.
    I think China will fall out of favor.
    I’ve been telling a Property developer I do work for, for a number of years that Carney should have increased rates, then you have wiggle room for cuts if there’s a crisis.
    First Carney says the BOE aren’t going to move until the unemployment hits his target, which it did. Then he says it’s not going to move unless there’s inflation, which he apparently says there wasn’t, even though I could personally see there was.
    Yup, I don’t like Carney,and vice versa I hope👍

    Yawn.


    Were the questions too difficult?

    I think this is a very half hearted attempt at a response.
    Yawn? By cutting interest rates you can maybe save businesses and jobs.
    Too late now though.
    What have interest rates got to do with Brexit?
    Because current businesses that trade with the EU might not be around shortly.
  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774
    I’m not too sure you’re that hot on economics.
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,783
    Interest rates were an important part of fiscal policy in the 80s/90s.

    Now? It's currently 0.75%. no cut is going to make a significant difference.
  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774
    Essexphil said:

    Interest rates were an important part of fiscal policy in the 80s/90s.

    Now? It's currently 0.75%. no cut is going to make a significant difference.

    Precisely, that’s why interest rates should have been increased a few years ago, as I’ve already stated.
    I’d expect the government might have to rush something through to protect businesses.
  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774
    The BOE seem to think raising rates will stifle growth.
    Hurt the housing market.
    No room for a crisis with the strategy they’ve been using.
  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774
    Essexphil said:

    I suspect that the "black hole" is that the NHS will ALWAYS demand more money, regardless of how much money you throw at it.

    You could spend the entire UK GDP on the NHS, and it still would leave gaps.

    Agree.
  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774
    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    I can’t for some reason reply to Haysies questions as the posts are too long.



    The questions were quite short.

    That just sounds like an excuse.


    Are the media sitting in on negotiations? Are they being live streamed?Dont think so.


    There are 2 lobby briefings per day, as we previously discussed.
    The Government have always used the press to communicate with the electorate.


    You seem unaware that there is a Parliament channel on the telly?

    Ever heard of Hansard?




    Re Tony Blair. He did do some very good things for the NHS, but also some very bad things.


    His Government was responsible for the highest funding levels for the NHS.
    That is a fact that must hurt you deeply.
    He later blotted his copybook, when he became responsible for world terrorism.





    If all you want is a shorter waiting time, I’m sure that’s quite an easy fix.



    The Tories have had 10 years so far to fix it, without any success.





    But if you’re referring to funding to the whole of the NHS, then my black hole awaits.



    Which black hole?
    When I try to reply to some of your posts, I find they’re all joined up, making very long posts.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,894




    The front of the Guardian - showing a stock market trader with his head in his hands - captures the mood of desperation as share prices plunged across the world.
    A graph framing the image illustrates the precipitous fall in the FTSE 100 as £125bn was wiped off the value of Britain's leading companies.
    One portfolio manager tells the Financial Times that in just a couple of weeks, investor sentiment has swung from complacency to panic.
    "Meltdown" is the headline in the Daily Mirror, which describes how pensioners and those nearing retirement risk being hardest hit as the value of their pension funds dived.
    The New York Times warns that "crashing financial markets" are increasing the risk of a vicious downward cycle that could inflict serious harm on the global economy.



    The Daily Mail, the Sun and the Daily Express lead on a warning from England's chief medical officer that anyone with just a minor cough or cold will soon be asked to stay at home for a week to help slow the spread of coronavirus.
    The Times notes that Britain is now reporting more daily cases than China. It also points out while the share price of virtually every UK-listed company fell on Monday - an exception at one point was Dignity which arranges funerals, although it, too, was later down.



    The Daily Telegraph reports that Chancellor Rishi Sunak is expected to use his Budget on Wednesday to announce financial handouts for businesses affected by coronavirus.
    Ideas under discussion include the Treasury underwriting bank loans to encourage lending to firms, and small businesses being offered loans at cheap interest rates.
    The back pages of the Guardian and the Times highlight a warning to the government that some League One and League Two football clubs in England fear going out of business because of a loss of ticket revenue if games have to be played behind closed doors.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-51810868

















    Boris Johnson news: EU issues trade deal ultimatum, as senior Tory hints Brexit talks ‘could be delayed’ due to coronavirus

    European Commission president Ursula von der Leyen said that the UK had to “make up its mind” whether it wanted to keep access to the single market – warning Boris Johnson’s government that it must follow the “rules of the game” if it wants tariff-free free trade.
    It comes as ex-chancellor Philip Hammond claimed negotiations with the EU could be pushed back because of the coronavirus. “There is no reason to think that Brexit trade talks will be immune,” he said, amid reports officials have discussed a delay if the virus gets worse.

    Boris Johnson hosted a Cobra meeting on the government’s response to the outbreak, still in “delay” phase, as the parliamentary commissioner for standards reportedly launched an investigation into who exactly paid for the PM’s £15,000 holiday on Mustique.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-news-brexit-coronavirus-trade-deal-eu-talks-carrie-symonds-latest-a9385967.html

    New immigration rules could cause ‘black hole’ of almost 500,000 care home workers, trade union warns
    No exemption for migrant care workers from demand for £25,600 minimum salary threshold


    New immigration rules being brought in by home secretary Priti Patel could result in a “black hole” of almost half a million care home workers, a trade union has warned.
    Branding Ms Patel’s plan as “slapdash”, the GMB warned that cutting off the supply of recruits from overseas will worsen the crisis in the adult social care sector, which already has 110,000 unfilled vacancies.

    Under the new immigration policy announced last month and due to come into force on 1 January 2021, there will be no exemption for the social care sector from a new £25,600 minimum earnings threshold designed to keep out low-skilled workers.



    With average earnings of just £16,200 in privately run care facilities, the GMB said this would leave the sector effectively unable to recruit from abroad unless the government provides funding for a substantial increase in pay.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/uk-new-immigration-rules-patel-points-care-home-workers-a9384736.html









    UK aviation chiefs criticise decision to pull out of European safety agency after Brexit
    Industry body warns Grant Shapps’ plan will risk UK companies’ access to global markets


    The aerospace industry has reacted with concern to an announcement from transport secretary Grant Shapps that the UK will leave the EU’s aviation safety regime as a result of Brexit.
    Mr Shapps said the UK will leave the European Aviation Safety Agency (Easa) when the Brexit transition period comes to an end on 31 December, switching responsibility for aircraft certification and safety regulation to Britain’s Civil Aviation Authority (CAA).

    But industry body ADS said that staying in Easa was “the best option” for keeping UK companies competitive and ensuring their access to global export markets.



    Chief executive Paul Everitt said he was “disappointed” with Mr Shapps’ approach.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-uk-leave-aerospace-agency-aviation-safety-shapps-a9384446.html



    Boris Johnson will stop at nothing to deliver his Brexit vision – even if that means forfeiting your human rights



    Can it possibly be the case that the prime minister believes that people in our country, especially the vulnerable and those in minorities, are due less rights now than 70 years ago?
    Recent reports that the prime minister refuses to maintain a commitment to the protections that we enjoy under the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR) should be a major concern to us all. When negotiating the future relationship with the EU, it is no surprise that they want minimum standards for all citizens, in accordance with guarantees that we agreed to be essential and to which we signed up in 1950, in the Council of Europe.

    A little history – which no doubt Boris Johnson knows, as Winston Churchill’s biographer – doesn’t go amiss: the Council of Europe was founded after the Second World War to protect human rights and the rule of law and to promote democracy. The first task of the member states (of which the United Kingdom was one) was to draw up a treaty to secure basic rights for anyone within their borders, whether their own citizens or from elsewhere.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/boris-johnson-echr-human-rights-brexit-europe-eu-a9387356.html


  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,894
    edited March 2020
    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    I can’t for some reason reply to Haysies questions as the posts are too long.



    The questions were quite short.

    That just sounds like an excuse.


    Are the media sitting in on negotiations? Are they being live streamed?Dont think so.


    There are 2 lobby briefings per day, as we previously discussed.
    The Government have always used the press to communicate with the electorate.


    You seem unaware that there is a Parliament channel on the telly?

    Ever heard of Hansard?




    Re Tony Blair. He did do some very good things for the NHS, but also some very bad things.


    His Government was responsible for the highest funding levels for the NHS.
    That is a fact that must hurt you deeply.
    He later blotted his copybook, when he became responsible for world terrorism.





    If all you want is a shorter waiting time, I’m sure that’s quite an easy fix.



    The Tories have had 10 years so far to fix it, without any success.





    But if you’re referring to funding to the whole of the NHS, then my black hole awaits.



    Which black hole?
    When I try to reply to some of your posts, I find they’re all joined up, making very long posts.
    That's very easy.
    Each post has a limited number of characters.
    If you try to post a reply, and exceed this number, it tells you at the top of the post, the number of characters that you have exceeded this limit by.
    If you delete the earlier, and irrelevant bits of the previous posts, until you get within the limit, it will allow you to post a reply.
    Another excuse out of the window.
    You could delete all the previous posts, and just leave the post that you are responding to and your reply.


    Simples.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,894
    edited March 2020
    Essexphil said:

    I suspect that the "black hole" is that the NHS will ALWAYS demand more money, regardless of how much money you throw at it.

    You could spend the entire UK GDP on the NHS, and it still would leave gaps.

    The Tories have underfunded the NHS in real terms for the last 10 years.

    It is no secret that we are an ageing population, and the NHS will need more funding to cover the increasing costs.

    The loss of beds, staff, and cutbacks in social care have added pressure to the smooth running of the service.

    The NHS has also faced criticisms in many areas.

    Until very recently they were the worlds largest purchaser of fax machines. Ridiculous.

    Matt Hancock then made them the worlds largest purchaser of refrigerators, just in case we end up with a no deal Brexit.

    There was a recent programme on BBC, which focused on the billions that the NHS lose due to being ripped off by staff.

    Doctors are forced to send home patients that aren't fit for release, after weighing up the needs of patients requiring admission against those of the current bed occupants.

    Many patients are released that are unable to fend for themselves, due to social care cutbacks.

    Many patients block beds that don't need medical treatment, but cant be released because a lack of home care being available.

    The NHS restrict the payment made to the private companies for operations, to the actual costs that the NHS charges itself. Yet the private companies make millions at these prices.

    Compensation claims are rising.

    Many surgeons are restricting their working hours due to an anomaly in their personal taxation meaning that they earn less by increasing their working hours. Therefore increasing waiting lists. How long does it take to resolve this issue?

    The Tories response seems to be the abandonment of targets, rather than attempting any improvement.

    I could go on and on.

    The bottom line is that we will continue to be an aging population, the NHS is poorly run, during the last 10 years the Tories have made it worse, cuts in social care have increased the pressure.

    The love of an NHS by the general public, is hard to explain, as it seems to lurch from one disaster to the next.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,894
    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    I can’t for some reason reply to Haysies questions as the posts are too long.



    The questions were quite short.

    That just sounds like an excuse.


    Are the media sitting in on negotiations? Are they being live streamed?Dont think so.


    There are 2 lobby briefings per day, as we previously discussed.
    The Government have always used the press to communicate with the electorate.


    You seem unaware that there is a Parliament channel on the telly?

    Ever heard of Hansard?




    Re Tony Blair. He did do some very good things for the NHS, but also some very bad things.


    His Government was responsible for the highest funding levels for the NHS.
    That is a fact that must hurt you deeply.
    He later blotted his copybook, when he became responsible for world terrorism.





    If all you want is a shorter waiting time, I’m sure that’s quite an easy fix.



    The Tories have had 10 years so far to fix it, without any success.





    But if you’re referring to funding to the whole of the NHS, then my black hole awaits.



    Which black hole?
    Give me a figure on how much it would take to fund each individual being seen straight away across all departments. I presume that’s your ideal.
    It’s been underfunded true, but if it had and extra 50,000 beds now, that wouldn’t cover an epidemic of 200,000+. Even more worst case.
    The economic power world list, lists the U.K. in 6th place.Italy are listed as in 8th.
    China and the USA are top.
    None are capable of fully coping with an epidemic, hence China building new hospitals.
    I would presume the U.K. would have to do the same as China.
    Use sports centers, halls, conference centers , hotels etc.
    I think you’re looking for a fairy godmother for PM.
    Brexit?
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,894
    chilling said:

    Bec

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    After googling for Brexit news, there’s still nothing to see.
    Nothing we don’t already know. Exciting times!

    Do you think we should remain closely aligned and protect the economy, or diverge and purposely damage it?

    And why?

    Do you think Boris has a mandate to diverge?

    If so where from?

    Does leaving with a Norway plus deal, still amount to leaving?

    As we already conduct some checks between NI, and UK, which are done on the ferries to avoid delays. Do you think that in the light of the fact that we are about to employ 50,000 staff to process the additional post Brexit paperwork, in addition to a large number of extra Customs Officers. That we may have chosen to employ extra staff to carry out checks on the ferries, and therefore avoid delays, in order to avoid drug, and people smuggling, that this could have been implemented many years ago, and avoided any dead bodies turning up in trucks?

    Do you agree that we didn't need to leave the EU, to provide more protection for our borders?

    The Tory Party was fairly recently conducting an ABB campaign. This stood for anyone but Boris. What changed?

    Boris has made it clear that he will not extend the EU trade negotiations past the end of December. Do you agree with this?

    Or do you think he should focus on the best deal for the UK, however long that takes?

    Do you think we will attract many foreign manufacturers to the UK, post Brexit. Or do you think that they will be more likely to set up in Europe, to access a bigger market?
    I don’t mind checks, as that’s showing responsibility.

    Why haven't they done them before?


    Whether or not this Government sticks to this year for a deal of some sort to be done who knows.

    Why have an unnecessary deadline, that may jeopardise the deal?

    Boris had clearly stated that he wont extend the transition, and we will leave at the end of the year, with or without a deal.


    Obv the strategy is to focus on doing whatever deal may be possible in a shorter than the average time.Focuses the minds, which can’t be a bad thing.


    Nonsense both sides want a deal, and both sides lose out if there is no deal. That is a fact. Although you don't seem to be keen on facts.


    I would keep my strategy or intentions under wraps anyway.

    Impossible.


    But of course the media seem to think they need to know everything.

    The media has a responsibility to inform the electorate.



    Coming out of the EU and alignment with their rules doesn’t look a good mix.

    Only if you wished to cause the most damage possible to our economy.



    Don’t hold your breath for alignment .

    I am not, Boris has already decided.



    There could be a challenging recession due to the virus, even more by the disruption.
    That could potentially change attitudes towards any deals.

    Causing more damage, but irrelevant to the deal.

    If the virus causes damage to the economy, which seems likely, then it is all the more reason to lose as little trade as possible with the EU.

    That is not the Boris plan.


    Maybe we should get our arses over to Mexico, it could be the new China.
    I think China will fall out of favor.
    I’ve been telling a Property developer I do work for, for a number of years that Carney should have increased rates, then you have wiggle room for cuts if there’s a crisis.
    First Carney says the BOE aren’t going to move until the unemployment hits his target, which it did. Then he says it’s not going to move unless there’s inflation, which he apparently says there wasn’t, even though I could personally see there was.
    Yup, I don’t like Carney,and vice versa I hope👍

    Yawn.


    Were the questions too difficult?

    I think this is a very half hearted attempt at a response.
    Yawn? By cutting interest rates you can maybe save businesses and jobs.
    Too late now though.
    What have interest rates got to do with Brexit?
    Because current businesses that trade with the EU might not be around shortly.
    That will be due to the path that Boris has chosen.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,894
    chilling said:

    I’m not too sure you’re that hot on economics.


    You may think you are hot on economics and Brexit.

    This is not true in either case.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,894
    chilling said:

    Essexphil said:

    Interest rates were an important part of fiscal policy in the 80s/90s.

    Now? It's currently 0.75%. no cut is going to make a significant difference.

    Precisely, that’s why interest rates should have been increased a few years ago, as I’ve already stated.
    I’d expect the government might have to rush something through to protect businesses.
    Alternatively they could choose a close relationship with the EU, which would have a greater effect.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,894
    chilling said:

    The BOE seem to think raising rates will stifle growth.
    Hurt the housing market.
    No room for a crisis with the strategy they’ve been using.

    Brexit.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,894
    edited March 2020
    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    The BOE seem to think raising rates will stifle growth.
    Hurt the housing market.
    No room for a crisis with the strategy they’ve been using.

    Brexit.
    The Tories have not honoured any of their manifesto promises on housebuilding.
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