If this thread is anything to go by, you certainly have no right to call someone else thick.
She has accomplished quite a lot in her life, for a thick, ugly, racist, lefty.
Perhaps you could fulfill all the criteria, except for the lefty bit.
Maybe you could put your cv up so we could all compare.
Diane Julie Abbott (born 27 September 1953) is a British Labour Party politician who was appointed Shadow Home Secretary in October 2016. She was first elected as the Member of Parliament (MP) for Hackney North and Stoke Newington at the 1987 general election, when she became the first black woman to hold a seat in the House of Commons.[1] Born in Paddington, London, Abbott studied History at Newnham College, Cambridge University.[2] She worked in the Civil Service and as a reporter for Thames Television and TV-am before becoming a press officer for the Greater London Council. Abbott was elected to Westminster City Council in 1982. She unsuccessfully stood in the 2010 Labour leadership election, but was appointed as Shadow Minister for Public Health by Ed Miliband. She also unsuccessfully attempted to be the Labour candidate for the 2016 London mayoral election.
If this thread is anything to go by, you certainly have no right to call someone else thick.
She has accomplished quite a lot in her life, for a thick, ugly, racist, lefty.
Perhaps you could fulfill all the criteria, except for the lefty bit.
Maybe you could put your cv up so we could all compare.
Diane Julie Abbott (born 27 September 1953) is a British Labour Party politician who was appointed Shadow Home Secretary in October 2016. She was first elected as the Member of Parliament (MP) for Hackney North and Stoke Newington at the 1987 general election, when she became the first black woman to hold a seat in the House of Commons.[1] Born in Paddington, London, Abbott studied History at Newnham College, Cambridge University.[2] She worked in the Civil Service and as a reporter for Thames Television and TV-am before becoming a press officer for the Greater London Council. Abbott was elected to Westminster City Council in 1982. She unsuccessfully stood in the 2010 Labour leadership election, but was appointed as Shadow Minister for Public Health by Ed Miliband. She also unsuccessfully attempted to be the Labour candidate for the 2016 London mayoral election.
So its ok to be racist if you are a high achiever.
If this thread is anything to go by, you certainly have no right to call someone else thick.
She has accomplished quite a lot in her life, for a thick, ugly, racist, lefty.
Perhaps you could fulfill all the criteria, except for the lefty bit.
Maybe you could put your cv up so we could all compare.
Diane Julie Abbott (born 27 September 1953) is a British Labour Party politician who was appointed Shadow Home Secretary in October 2016. She was first elected as the Member of Parliament (MP) for Hackney North and Stoke Newington at the 1987 general election, when she became the first black woman to hold a seat in the House of Commons.[1] Born in Paddington, London, Abbott studied History at Newnham College, Cambridge University.[2] She worked in the Civil Service and as a reporter for Thames Television and TV-am before becoming a press officer for the Greater London Council. Abbott was elected to Westminster City Council in 1982. She unsuccessfully stood in the 2010 Labour leadership election, but was appointed as Shadow Minister for Public Health by Ed Miliband. She also unsuccessfully attempted to be the Labour candidate for the 2016 London mayoral election.
So its ok to be racist if you are a high achiever.
So No Crime Prevention let the crime take place prosecute the offender then blame the victim for being naive. You leave your Front Door open when you go out.!
You are a moron. You are unable to put forward a coherent argument on anything. You embarrass yourself at every attempt. What I clearly said was that the offenders were guilty, responsible, and deserved a more severe punishment. The victims of these crimes were children. Children are naïve. They have to completely rely on their parents to look after, and protect them. The primary responsibility of any parent is to keep their child safe. If you are the parent of an 11 year old girl, and you don't know where she is, or what she is doing, late at night, then you are neglecting your parental duties.
This is the equivalent of going out and leaving your front door open, but much, much worse.
The parents of these white children will obviously be white, and that doesn't suit the story that you and your ilk want to tell. Nor does the fact that of the 6,200 offenders referred to above, only 4% were Asian.
If you were a parent of an 11 year old that had been taking drugs, drinking alcohol, and having sex with numerous Asian men, for months if not years, how would you explain this?
Would you say you didn't notice?
Or maybe you didn't care?
Perhaps it just wasn't your fault?
Down the pub and couldn't be bothered?
You are a racist, and a moron.
A high % of these Children were in the care of the authorities.
Don't think so. Try again.
Ignored for being 'MIDDLE CLASS': Social services dismissed child victims of UK's largest Asian grooming gang because they lived in homes with 'nice kitchens and conservatories', claims charity
Charity reveals that they believe the children were let down by social workers Authorities allegedly thought children from wealthier families were 'rebelling' MP Barry Sheerman said people thought victims were from tough backgrounds Charity chief executive Gill Gibbons said that the system which protects children is 'unfit for purpose'
Middle class victims of Britain's largest Asian child sex ring were ignored for 'not being poor enough' when social workers visited their 'nice' homes, claims charity chief.
If this thread is anything to go by, you certainly have no right to call someone else thick.
She has accomplished quite a lot in her life, for a thick, ugly, racist, lefty.
Perhaps you could fulfill all the criteria, except for the lefty bit.
Maybe you could put your cv up so we could all compare.
Diane Julie Abbott (born 27 September 1953) is a British Labour Party politician who was appointed Shadow Home Secretary in October 2016. She was first elected as the Member of Parliament (MP) for Hackney North and Stoke Newington at the 1987 general election, when she became the first black woman to hold a seat in the House of Commons.[1] Born in Paddington, London, Abbott studied History at Newnham College, Cambridge University.[2] She worked in the Civil Service and as a reporter for Thames Television and TV-am before becoming a press officer for the Greater London Council. Abbott was elected to Westminster City Council in 1982. She unsuccessfully stood in the 2010 Labour leadership election, but was appointed as Shadow Minister for Public Health by Ed Miliband. She also unsuccessfully attempted to be the Labour candidate for the 2016 London mayoral election.
So its ok to be racist if you are a high achiever.
you said she was ugly, thick and lefty.
No my apologies she is ugly thick, lefty and racist.
Those that get found guilty will be sentenced, as has been the case.
Are you in agreement that people in this country should get a fair trial? Do you agree that some people have been accused are innocent?
What impact on innocent parties do you think a person outside of court highlighting everything ( even when they have been told not to, as it would potentially endanger the case against them, whether they are guilty or innocent)
Is anyone above the law in this country? Should Tommy abide by the law?
I have read a bit of this thread as you suggested.
This is clearly a debate between the moderate, sensible views shared by the overwhelming majority of this country, against the incoherent, ramblings of the miniscule minority. It is not sensible to take an event, situation, or circumstance and distort the facts. If the majority of members of grooming gangs are Asian or Muslim, it doesn't follow that all Asians and Muslims are paedophiles or villains. To stir up Religious or Race hatred on this basis, is not only wrong, it is illegal.
The men involved in these offences are clearly despicable, and probably deserve more porridge than they actually got.
You would also hope that the parents concerned might have learnt some lessons. If I was a white man with a daughter as young as 11 years old, that was out until all hours, taking drugs, drinking alcohol, and having sex with lots of Asian men, I might be thinking I had completely neglected my responsibilities as a parent. I am not saying I blame the parents, the culprits are clearly to blame, but the parents must surely accept some responsibility.
As I said on another thread the other day, the problem with opinions is that they are like are5eholes everyone has got one. Some of the opinions expressed on this thread are very obviously bigoted and racist, and make a sensible person question the merits of freedom of speech.
I think the Home Secretary sent an ill judged tweet on the subject. I think he was trying to illustrate that he was prepared to criticise his own kind. He had just started the job, and was attempting to make a point. I think he probably now sees it as a mistake, as he is now being quoted by the loonies.
Here are a couple of facts that will be inconvenient for the loonies.
On a point of fairness, you will like this one,
Yes Pakistani men are disproportionately involved in grooming gangs and this particular model of abuse. And no that is not a racist statement.
But not this one,
Nearly 90% of those convicted of wider child abuse offences and on the sex offenders register are white men.
And definitely not this one,
It provided us with data on the number of defendants prosecuted for sex offences in cases flagged as relating to child abuse in 2015/16. It also included the ethnicity of those defendants. Of the 6,200 or so defendants in these prosecutions, 67% were white, 4% were Asian, 3% were black, 1% were mixed race and 1% were other. For 24% of defendant’s there was no information on their ethnicity. Of all these prosecutions, around three quarters resulted in a conviction.
You would also hope that the parents concerned might have learnt some lessons. If I was a white man with a daughter as young as 11 years old, that was out until all hours, taking drugs, drinking alcohol, and having sex with lots of Asian men, I might be thinking I had completely neglected my responsibilities as a parent. I am not saying I blame the parents, the culprits are clearly to blame, but the parents must surely accept some responsibility.
So if a lady wears a short skirt and gets raped, she should take some of the responsibility, in your eyes.
The Messenger may not be Angel from Heaven to suit your criteria .......... you've gone from ignore me to calling me names and you're criticizing rainman215. brill!
You would also hope that the parents concerned might have learnt some lessons. If I was a white man with a daughter as young as 11 years old, that was out until all hours, taking drugs, drinking alcohol, and having sex with lots of Asian men, I might be thinking I had completely neglected my responsibilities as a parent. I am not saying I blame the parents, the culprits are clearly to blame, but the parents must surely accept some responsibility.
So if a lady wears a short skirt and gets raped, she should take some of the responsibility, in your eyes.
Wheres your cv Mr smartarse, and what percentage.
Look it up ****. If you want to see my cv i can hand it to you in person.
So No Crime Prevention let the crime take place prosecute the offender then blame the victim for being naive. You leave your Front Door open when you go out.!
You are a moron. You are unable to put forward a coherent argument on anything. You embarrass yourself at every attempt. What I clearly said was that the offenders were guilty, responsible, and deserved a more severe punishment. The victims of these crimes were children. Children are naïve. They have to completely rely on their parents to look after, and protect them. The primary responsibility of any parent is to keep their child safe. If you are the parent of an 11 year old girl, and you don't know where she is, or what she is doing, late at night, then you are neglecting your parental duties.
This is the equivalent of going out and leaving your front door open, but much, much worse.
The parents of these white children will obviously be white, and that doesn't suit the story that you and your ilk want to tell. Nor does the fact that of the 6,200 offenders referred to above, only 4% were Asian.
If you were a parent of an 11 year old that had been taking drugs, drinking alcohol, and having sex with numerous Asian men, for months if not years, how would you explain this?
Would you say you didn't notice?
Or maybe you didn't care?
Perhaps it just wasn't your fault?
Down the pub and couldn't be bothered?
You are a racist, and a moron.
A high % of these Children were in the care of the authorities.
If this thread is anything to go by, you certainly have no right to call someone else thick.
She has accomplished quite a lot in her life, for a thick, ugly, racist, lefty.
Perhaps you could fulfill all the criteria, except for the lefty bit.
Maybe you could put your cv up so we could all compare.
Diane Julie Abbott (born 27 September 1953) is a British Labour Party politician who was appointed Shadow Home Secretary in October 2016. She was first elected as the Member of Parliament (MP) for Hackney North and Stoke Newington at the 1987 general election, when she became the first black woman to hold a seat in the House of Commons.[1] Born in Paddington, London, Abbott studied History at Newnham College, Cambridge University.[2] She worked in the Civil Service and as a reporter for Thames Television and TV-am before becoming a press officer for the Greater London Council. Abbott was elected to Westminster City Council in 1982. She unsuccessfully stood in the 2010 Labour leadership election, but was appointed as Shadow Minister for Public Health by Ed Miliband. She also unsuccessfully attempted to be the Labour candidate for the 2016 London mayoral election.
So its ok to be racist if you are a high achiever.
The Messenger may not be Angel from Heaven to suit your criteria .......... you've gone from ignore me to calling me names and you're criticizing rainman215. brill!
I have maintained that you are a moron for quite some time. That is obvious for everyone to see. I am not aware of anything I have ignored.
Goldon they are keyboard warriors, and they are very upset because they can see the rise of right wing populism, ie TRUMP, AUSTRIA, HUNGARY, ITALY, BRAZIL,FRANCE, GERMANY, GREAT BRITAIN, SPAIN, HOLLAND.
Obviously someone isn't getting the attention he craves so much on his " lets just quote dubious media sources " brexit thread . To be fair anyone who has to result in name calling Haysie , really isn't that bright , and certainly not an accomplished debater .....just someone looking for an argument , wherever he can find it !
You would also hope that the parents concerned might have learnt some lessons. If I was a white man with a daughter as young as 11 years old, that was out until all hours, taking drugs, drinking alcohol, and having sex with lots of Asian men, I might be thinking I had completely neglected my responsibilities as a parent. I am not saying I blame the parents, the culprits are clearly to blame, but the parents must surely accept some responsibility.
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Perhaps you could fulfill all the criteria, except for the lefty bit.
Maybe you could put your cv up so we could all compare.
Diane Julie Abbott (born 27 September 1953) is a British Labour Party politician who was appointed Shadow Home Secretary in October 2016. She was first elected as the Member of Parliament (MP) for Hackney North and Stoke Newington at the 1987 general election, when she became the first black woman to hold a seat in the House of Commons.[1] Born in Paddington, London, Abbott studied History at Newnham College, Cambridge University.[2] She worked in the Civil Service and as a reporter for Thames Television and TV-am before becoming a press officer for the Greater London Council. Abbott was elected to Westminster City Council in 1982. She unsuccessfully stood in the 2010 Labour leadership election, but was appointed as Shadow Minister for Public Health by Ed Miliband. She also unsuccessfully attempted to be the Labour candidate for the 2016 London mayoral election.
Don't think so. Try again.
Ignored for being 'MIDDLE CLASS': Social services dismissed child victims of UK's largest Asian grooming gang because they lived in homes with 'nice kitchens and conservatories', claims charity
Charity reveals that they believe the children were let down by social workers
Authorities allegedly thought children from wealthier families were 'rebelling'
MP Barry Sheerman said people thought victims were from tough backgrounds
Charity chief executive Gill Gibbons said that the system which protects children is 'unfit for purpose'
Middle class victims of Britain's largest Asian child sex ring were ignored for 'not being poor enough' when social workers visited their 'nice' homes, claims charity chief.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6400545/Social-services-ignored-victims-UKs-largest-Asian-grooming-gang-middle-class.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ito=1490&ns_campaign=1490
Being a moron, you obviously have difficulties with English.
How could the answer to the question why would I, possibly be, I thought so.
You need to try harder or get some help.
I am not aware of anything I have ignored.
You would also hope that the parents concerned might have learnt some lessons. If I was a white man with a daughter as young as 11 years old, that was out until all hours, taking drugs, drinking alcohol, and having sex with lots of Asian men, I might be thinking I had completely neglected my responsibilities as a parent.
I am not saying I blame the parents, the culprits are clearly to blame, but the parents must surely accept some responsibility.
Your words Wonder if Tikay will tell him off.