Hang her or behead to many people think she can be changed
Her father has been shown to support her views been at several rallies involving high profile hate preachers and also convicted terrorists supporting said terrorists
This makes the grooming claim rubbish more likely daddy sent her because he was to old or scared himself
can those people whose heads she seen in bins come back for second chances or those she helped butcher? soldier
She and all others like her deserve treated as they treat those they have beheaded and tortured with disdain and no remorse.
From a proud parent of a serving soldier
Fracture for fracture eye for eye tooth for tooth
And when we all kill each other, what is left to fight for?
Does the one with the biggest armoury deserve victory , or those with the “right morals”
“An eye for an eye” was in the Old Testament ( As far as I remember, could be wrong) but was repudiated by Jesus.
Hang her or behead to many people think she can be changed
Her father has been shown to support her views been at several rallies involving high profile hate preachers and also convicted terrorists supporting said terrorists
This makes the grooming claim rubbish more likely daddy sent her because he was to old or scared himself
can those people whose heads she seen in bins come back for second chances or those she helped butcher? soldier
She and all others like her deserve treated as they treat those they have beheaded and tortured with disdain and no remorse.
From a proud parent of a serving soldier
Fracture for fracture eye for eye tooth for tooth
And when we all kill each other, what is left to fight for?
Does the one with the biggest armoury deserve victory , or those with the “right morals”
“An eye for an eye” was in the Old Testament ( As far as I remember, could be wrong) but was repudiated by Jesus.
Hang her or behead to many people think she can be changed
Her father has been shown to support her views been at several rallies involving high profile hate preachers and also convicted terrorists supporting said terrorists
This makes the grooming claim rubbish more likely daddy sent her because he was to old or scared himself
can those people whose heads she seen in bins come back for second chances or those she helped butcher? soldier
She and all others like her deserve treated as they treat those they have beheaded and tortured with disdain and no remorse.
From a proud parent of a serving soldier
Fracture for fracture eye for eye tooth for tooth
And when we all kill each other, what is left to fight for?
Does the one with the biggest armoury deserve victory , or those with the “right morals”
“An eye for an eye” was in the Old Testament ( As far as I remember, could be wrong) but was repudiated by Jesus.
Thats the one.
Does washing our hands of her sound like having good morals?
Hang her or behead to many people think she can be changed
Her father has been shown to support her views been at several rallies involving high profile hate preachers and also convicted terrorists supporting said terrorists
This makes the grooming claim rubbish more likely daddy sent her because he was to old or scared himself
can those people whose heads she seen in bins come back for second chances or those she helped butcher? soldier
She and all others like her deserve treated as they treat those they have beheaded and tortured with disdain and no remorse.
From a proud parent of a serving soldier
Fracture for fracture eye for eye tooth for tooth
And when we all kill each other, what is left to fight for?
Does the one with the biggest armoury deserve victory , or those with the “right morals”
“An eye for an eye” was in the Old Testament ( As far as I remember, could be wrong) but was repudiated by Jesus.
Thats the one.
Does washing our hands of her sound like having good morals?
Yes, now can you answer my earlier question please?
Hang her or behead to many people think she can be changed
Her father has been shown to support her views been at several rallies involving high profile hate preachers and also convicted terrorists supporting said terrorists
This makes the grooming claim rubbish more likely daddy sent her because he was to old or scared himself
can those people whose heads she seen in bins come back for second chances or those she helped butcher? soldier
She and all others like her deserve treated as they treat those they have beheaded and tortured with disdain and no remorse.
From a proud parent of a serving soldier
Fracture for fracture eye for eye tooth for tooth
And when we all kill each other, what is left to fight for?
Does the one with the biggest armoury deserve victory , or those with the “right morals”
“An eye for an eye” was in the Old Testament ( As far as I remember, could be wrong) but was repudiated by Jesus.
Thats the one.
Does washing our hands of her sound like having good morals?
Yes, now can you answer my earlier question please?
Sorry, I thought it rhetorical I don’t know how many have been prosecuted , I think this case is different to most tbh, some would say she’s more culpable than those who returned previously and have a fair point as she stayed TIL the end.
This is a tough one, she is a British National so she has the right to return.,plus she was a child when she left. However, now she is older and doesn’t seem to be remorseful. I think the best course would be for her to return and face the consequences of her actions.
If she is allowed to comeback the real far right will use it as a recruiting tool. How many girls returning from islamic state have been prosecuted ?
I understand your angst, and as I said it’s a tough question. You said above you would choose the humane path, you have been a staunch supporter of people who “out” grooming gangs, what Phil said is accurate, I should hardly think a 15yr girl was browsing the internet and thought “ Syria looks nice at this time of year” ( glib, but you get the point) Just imagine if it was your daughter, kids do stupid things, this is beyond stupid I know, but we have to maintain our standards and sense of decency , or the terrorists have won, we become just like them.
So if she comes back and commits a terrorist act, and kills an innocent child over here will you be able to talk to the Parents and say we have to maintain our standards?
I also think washing your hands of this girl shows a distinct lack of morals. It smacks of “ Let her rot where she is”
What happens when she comes back, and maybe carries out a terrorist attack and kills an innocent child, what do you say to the parents of child, sorry but our morals said to take her back ?
I have bounced around both options as I believe she has helped make life for Muslims here a lot more difficult with her high profile escape, as well as enabled more attention on a terrorist group that has caused harm to so many. However she is a British citizen and we can't legally leave her stateless as well as allow an innocent child to suffer. We should do the same as we do for any criminal, extradite (or equivalent seeing as we have no diplomatic relations with Syria) and prosecute on criminal charges. Treating her any differently plays into the hands of those who want to cause division.
I have bounced around both options as I believe she has helped make life for Muslims here a lot more difficult with her high profile escape, as well as enabled more attention on a terrorist group that has caused harm to so many. However she is a British citizen and we can't legally leave her stateless as well as allow an innocent child to suffer. We should do the same as we do for any criminal, extradite (or equivalent seeing as we have no diplomatic relations with Syria) and prosecute on criminal charges. Treating her any differently plays into the hands of those who want to cause division.
The question by Tikay was would you allow her to return or leave her where she is. The legal side of it is not the question just what you would decide personally.
I have bounced around both options as I believe she has helped make life for Muslims here a lot more difficult with her high profile escape, as well as enabled more attention on a terrorist group that has caused harm to so many. However she is a British citizen and we can't legally leave her stateless as well as allow an innocent child to suffer. We should do the same as we do for any criminal, extradite (or equivalent seeing as we have no diplomatic relations with Syria) and prosecute on criminal charges. Treating her any differently plays into the hands of those who want to cause division.
The question by Tikay was would you allow her to return or leave her where she is. The legal side of it is not the question just what you would decide personally.
Thanks, I'm aware what was asked. My answer is I would personally uphold the legal obligations we have and act accordingly.
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Does the one with the biggest armoury deserve victory , or those with the “right morals”
“An eye for an eye” was in the Old Testament ( As far as I remember, could be wrong) but was repudiated by Jesus.
I don’t know how many have been prosecuted , I think this case is different to most tbh, some would say she’s more culpable than those who returned previously and have a fair point as she stayed TIL the end.
It smacks of “ Let her rot where she is”
If it was up to me i,d bring her back, lock her up for a lengthy sentence and let the child be fostered.
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The legal side of it is not the question just what you would decide personally.
I pay my taxes and dont begrudge one needy person.