Did you ask yourself " WHY " my thread has so few post entries from other players.
You must learn to leave the hot potato alone and stick to your own threads, they are where you shine. fwiw woof
Hey Goldon, No chance I'm not going to say what I think , unless I'm silenced . Really don't care what anyone thinks of my opinions , I'm of that age . This is a forum , where you would assume that all opinions are of merit .
The silent army of leave supporters will have their day like they did in the Local Elections. For "May" to say Conservatives are the only Party to deliver Brexit is laughable given they've had three years to do it and we're still in Leave limbo. You don't have to be Master Mind to work out they & Labour are not the people to trust to see Brexit through. Anyway, Brexit is secondary now as Democracy is more important. Like Doctors, Surgeons, Soldiers, so MP's Prime Ministers should be accountable in Law.
The silent army of leave supporters will have their day like they did in the Local Elections. For "May" to say Conservatives are the only Party to deliver Brexit is laughable given they've had three years to do it and we're still in Leave limbo. You don't have to be Master Mind to work out they & Labour are not the people to trust to see Brexit through. Anyway, Brexit is secondary now as Democracy is more important. Like Doctors, Surgeons, Soldiers, so MP's Prime Ministers should be accountable in Law.
Well there is only one party ( ignore the racist partys ) who are actually interested in brexit . If you voted for brexit ..then vote for the brexit party in the European elections
Annunziata Rees-Mogg reveals 'number one' phrase voters repeat to her on campaign trail
ANNUNZIATA Rees-Mogg revealed the number one phrase voters are telling her as she campaigns for the Brexit Party ahead of the European elections this coming week. Nigel Farage’s Brexit Party are topping the polls ahead of the European elections scheduled for May 23. Jacob Rees-Mogg’s sister, Annunziata, who left the Conservative Party to run as an MEP for the Brexit Party has revealed the number one phrase voters are telling her in the East Midlands. Speaking to Express.co.uk, Ms Rees-Mogg claimed all British voters had been betrayed by the Conservative Party’s devastating handling of Brexit. Asked what voters were telling her throughout the campaign, Ms Rees-Mogg said: “Thank you. The number one phrase anyone says to me is thank you. It has been utterly overwhelming.
“For so long they have been ignored by both the main parties.
“They have seen the betrayal of what they wanted their politicians to do, how they went back on what they said they would do, and they haven’t had anyone to vote for. They haven’t had anyone they believed would truly represent them.
“Finally the Brexit Party has given them the hope that politics can be made better and restored the faith for the people.” It comes with the latest YouGov survey of voter intentions for the European elections placing the Tories in fifth place behind Nigel Farage’s eurosceptic Party, Labour, Liberal Democrats and the Green Party.
The Brexit Party received over a third of all votes, polling at 35 percent, Lib Dems has 16 percent, Labour has 15 percent, Green Party 10 percent and Conservatives on just nine percent.
The YouGov survey took place between May 12 and May 16 and quizzed 7,192 adults in the UK on their voting intentions for the European elections.
Asked about the Brexit Party’s success in the polls, and what they can expect in the vote on Thursday, Ms Rees-Mogg said: “Making predictions is a fool's errand. We will do as well as people think we deserve to do I hope that will be extremely high. Certainly, the reception we are getting is certainly positive.”
Asked if the Brexit Party has the Conservative Party on the back-foot ahead of the EU elections, Ms Rees-Mogg claimed the Tories “deserve to be” behind in the polls.
She added: “They have under Theresa May, betrayed the Brexit that people voted for in 2016.
“They should have reflected what people asked of them and what they promised in their manifesto, in numerous speeches, and in different moments in the press over the last three years.
“They have gone back on all of their promises and I don’t think they can currently command the respect of the electorate.” Ms Rees-Mogg added the ambition for the party was to show the Conservative’s how much the British people are against the Prime Minister’s agreement, and will “go on” to fight a future general election to “push through a clean Brexit.”
Speaking in Wales earlier this week, Brexit Party leader, Mr Farage, said: “The reason we’ve got division in this country is that many in our establishment, far from respecting the vote, have done everything they can in the last two years to overturn the greatest democratic exercise in the history of our nation. And it is a total and utter disgrace.”
With European elections taking place on Thursday, Mrs May has pledged to set the date of her departure as leader after her last-ditch effort to get her Brexit deal through the House of Commons at the start of June.
It came following a meeting with the Conservative Party’s influential 1922 Committee who had demanded Mrs May set out a roadmap to when she would step down.
The Prime Minister had promised to step down before the second stage of Brexit negotiations, but following damaging local election results, and uncertainty over her Brexit withdrawal agreement, some members of her own party had called for Mrs May to resign. After the meeting, chairman of the 1922, Sir Graham Brady, said: "The Prime Minister is determined to secure our departure from the European Union and is devoting her efforts to securing the second reading of the Withdrawal Agreement Bill in the week commencing 3rd June 2019 and the passage of that Bill and the consequent departure of the United Kingdom from the European Union by the Summer.
"We have agreed that she and I will meet following the 2nd Reading of the Bill to agree to a timetable for the election of a new leader of the Conservative and Unionist Party."
Mrs May will bring the Withdrawal Agreement Bill (WAB), which implements the departure terms, to parliament for a vote in the week beginning June 3 just as US President Donald Trump begins a state visit to Britain.
Brexit Secretary Stephen Barclay told the Lords EU Committee if the Prime Minster’s deal is rejected again, then the “Barnier deal is dead.”
On Friday, Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn claimed the cross-party Brexit talks with the Government had “gone as far as they can” and were “unable to bridge important policy gaps
An existential risk’: Why Nigel Farage’s Brexit Party really could DESTROY the Tories
NIGEL Farage’s surging Brexit Party represents an “existential threat” to the Tories and could wreak havoc at the next general election, especially if predictions of success during next week’s European vote are accurate, a political analyst has said Professor Tony Travers also warned the ultimate result could let Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn into Number 10 “by accident”. The former UKIP leader only returned to the fray in January with the launch of his new political venture - but polls suggest he is on course for remarkable success in the European Parliamentary elections on May 23. Prof Travers of the London School of Economics (LSE) said this would put him on course to do major damage to the Conservative Party’s brand whenever a general election is called. He told Express.co.uk: “Nigel Farage is hoping a party created a few weeks ago can supplant one which dates back to the 18th century.
“The acid test will be whether a minority of Conservative MPs would decide to change their allegiance and join him.
“If that happened then I think the Conservative Party would be very badly damaged.
“There are a number of Conservative MPs who are under threat from the Brexit Party.”
A complicating factor was Mr Farage’s indication that he would not field candidates in areas where the MP had demonstrated his or her “loyalty” to Brexit, Prof Travers explained.
Therefore, any MP not seen to be sufficiently pro-Brexit will face being unseated, he added, with any of them with a majority in the low thousands likely to be nervous.
In reality, this was likely to mean anyone who votes for Mrs May’s withdrawal agreement when it goes before the Commons at the start of June, he said - with 1922 Committee chairman Sir Graham Brady one of the MPs whose seat could be in jeopardy.
Prof Travers said: “If the Tories aren’t panicking by now, they ought to be. Clearly there is a real existential threat to the Conservative Party, which is badly divided as it is, more so than to Labour or the Liberal Democrats.”
The rise of Mr Farage’s fledgling party offered the perfect illustration of the extraordinary political times Britons were living through, Prof Travers said.
He added: “I do think things are changing.
“The combined Conservative/Labour has been in long-term decline. “It was 97 percent in 1955 and by 2015 it had dropped to 65 percent.
“It bounced back a bit in 2017 but if the combined vote is going to decline and fragment further then we could end up with seeing a radical change.
“You have to remember the two-party system that everybody has lived with is the successor of the Conservatives versus Liberals system which went before.”
“The question is, does the arrival of the Brexit Party so fragment the centre-right that Labour wins by accident next time, with 24 or 25 percent of the vote?
“In our voting system, the biggest party only has to be two or three percent ahead of the next one to win an election.”
The Brexit Party is holding a rally in Frimley. Join the Brexiteer fightback! About this Event Join us at Lakeside Country Club at 5pm on Sunday 19th May. There is plenty of free on site parking.
Nigel Farage rolls into Labour country - it's part panto and part hate-fest The Mirror's Paul Routledge follows Farage on the election trail as he visits Merthyr Tydfil in South Wales
This is Nye Bevan and Michael Foot country. Keir Hardie came here to light the flame of socialism more than a century ago. These Labour-loyal Welsh valleys took radical American singer Paul Robeson to their hearts.
But could they possibly become the political killing fields for Nigel Farage next week? He thinks they can. He aims to “smash the establishment”. After a rapturous reception in Yorkshire mining towns, the Brexit leader took his message to former coal and steel communities of South Wales. Alighting from his blue and white battle (or is that bottle?) bus, the Brexit party leader was mobbed in the High Street of Merthyr Tydfil – but by the media not local people. His message was greeted with as many insults as cheers.
The walkabout came to a halt outside the town’s Wetherspoons – Y Dic Penderyn – named after the martyred leader of the Merthyr Rising of 1831. Farage never went inside, which must be a first.
On this spot, the Red Flag was raised for the first time in the UK in a revolt of the downtrodden 188 years ago. “You’re not welcome here!” shouted musician Stephen Williams, 41, organiser of celebrations for an anniversary event. His friends used language not suitable for a family newspaper. But at the same time there were a good few cheered greetings from windows of “Good luck, Nigel”. Farage also had a good reception in the vape shop. He admitted trying e-cigs “but they made me cough.”
Merthyr has benefited enormously from EU funding, the second-most in Wales. New landscaped spaces, a college, social enterprises and even a Institute for the Blind. Yet the constituency voted 56-44% Leave in the referendum three years ago. Only a rash punter would bet that they won’t vote Brexit on Thursday. Canvassing on the Gurnos estate suggests a big swing from Labour to “Out Now!” A common theme was disillusion with Labour. A 76-year- old charity shop worker, who had driven three hours from North Wales to see his hero said: “I’ve always voted Labour, but all I want to do is get Brexit through. I’ll vote for that again and again until it goes through, hopefully.” Another, told me: “I voted for Corbyn because he said he would listen to the people. But he hasn’t, has he? That’s why I’m here.” Both declined to give their names.
Farage sees himself as a latter-day Hardie: a man who broke the mould of British politics. On stage, he even compared himself to the socialist pioneer at an evening rally in the car park of Trago Mills, an out-of-town cut-price emporium run by a Brexit supporter. Seats were advertised at £2.50 a time (bring own chair). But the audience wasn’t quite up to expectations, and tickets were abandoned. Hundreds of placards were left uncollected. But it was more successful than his town-centre me-me-talkabout. Several hundred people, mostly middle aged or older but with a fair sprinkling of young ’uns, turned up for a show that was part panto, part hate-fest and part pop-festival. Loud music, big-screen videos, ooohing of Brexiteers, booing of Labour, the Tories, civil servants, Anna Soubry, and the rest of the stage villains preceded Farage’s familiar rhetoric.
He lashed out at a couple of dozen Remain protesters and accused Theresa May of building a coalition against the people. “We will not stand for it,” he bellowed. Farage is loud about Leave and Tory/Labour “betrayal”, but silent about the big issues that affect the people he claims adore him. The NHS? “I am not going to play that game.” Policies on housing, taxes – anything: “I’ll tell you after the election.” This must be the first time a leader has refused to reveal his plans until after the votes are in. Farage is blasé. “This election is about Brexit, not manifestos,” he said. “I will never, ever have a manifesto. Manifesto equals lies.”
Local MP Gerald Jones, a shadow defence minister with a 16,000 majority, told the Mirror: “What we want is an end to Tory austerity, an end to in work-poverty and investment in vital public services – not a simple solution to complex problems. “If Nigel Farage cared about working class communities like those in the Welsh valleys, he would not be pushing for a catastrophic no-deal Brexit.”
When the moment came, I asked Farage: “What is your message to Mirror readers?” He said Remainers could vote Labour. But for Labour leavers, he said the MEP list system “is not for you.” Eh? Where is his slick slogan “Tell Them Again”! He said: “We have a credible offer – that’s one of the reasons we have left of centre candidates as well.” Not the stuff to give the troops for a second Rising, Mr Mini-Trump. Maybe he’s too smart to let the venom show.
Nigel Farage is the 'ONLY one with a strong argument' says expert as Brexit Party SURGES
NIGEL FARAGE has identified the main problem with Brexit and has used it to surge ahead of the Conservative Party, an expert has argued. Since creating the Brexit Party, Mr Farage has used the failure to deliver on the Brexit referendum to create a party that has surged ahead of both Labour and the Tories in the EU election polls. The Tory party was severely punished during the recent local elections and in a recent YouGov poll, the Conservative Party has now fallen behind the Greens and Lib Dems. Speaking to the Express.co.uk, Dr Simon Usherwood, deputy chair at The UK in Changing Europe think tank argued Mr Farage has used the major problem of the current Brexit predicament to shoot his party up the polls Dr Usherwood said: “Farage has tapped into a thick seem of where Brexit is and that is that it’s stuck.
“At the moment he’s the only one that comes up with a strong argument.
“He’s got all the best tunes on Brexit, he’s got a clear message.
“He has credibility that some politicians might not have.” Mr Farage has been in a defiant mood recently and even boasted that his party has already gathered over 100,000 registered supporters in five weeks.
The Brexit Party leader has seemingly capitalised on the current struggles of both the Tories and Labour who yesterday confirmed that their cross-party talks were concluded.
Unfortunately for Theresa May, her attempt at trying to gain some crucial support for her Brexit deal has failed as she could not come to a compromise with Jeremy Corbyn.
In light of that, Dr Usherwood added the worry for most of the parties is not the power Mr Farage has at the moment but more the influence he “may have after the election” and whether other politicians will try to match him Speaking to the BBC yesterday, Mr Farage insisted that a new Tory leader should be “fearful” of the success of his party at a future general election.
Moreover, Mr Farage claimed that “no deal will be back on the table” if his party wins in the EU Elections next week.
He said: “If the Brexit Party could win these elections next week and win them well, leaving with no deal is back on the table.
“I’m going to demand that we have representation in those negotiations because we will have a democratic mandate to do so
@Nigel_Farage Follow Follow @Nigel_Farage More Democracy only works if the losers accept the result. Our ambition is much bigger than Brexit. We want to transform the political landscape and sweep aside the two-party system.
Leave.EU founder confirms he funded Nigel Farage in year after referendum
Nigel Farage received £450,000 from the founder of pro-Brexit group Leave.EU in the year after the Brexit referendum.
Items paid for by Arron Banks included Mr Farage's London home, his car and trips to the US to meet Donald Trump. A spokesman for Mr Banks confirmed the amount and what it had been used for,
Speaking at the launch of the Brexit party campaign in Scotland, Mr Farage said he did not declare it to the European Parliament because he was about to leave politics and had been seeking a new life in the US.
When campaigning in Dudley, West Midlands, Mr Farage was asked if he had received £450,000 from Mr Banks and said "unfortunately not", adding that if he had, "it would be lovely".
The Leave.EU founder said he had "willingly helped Farage and was honoured to do so", adding: "This was all designed to help Nigel get out of politics."
A spokesman for the European Parliament said that MEPs have to declare any spending linked to political activity that is paid for by third parties.
@Nigel_Farage Follow Follow @Nigel_Farage More Democracy only works if the losers accept the result. Our ambition is much bigger than Brexit. We want to transform the political landscape and sweep aside the two-party system.
He's denied it ...and it is now up to C4 to provide the evidence ( saying you have seen the evidence isn't proving it ) Perhaps you will also note the word " allegations" .
Arron Banks gave '£450,000 funding to Nigel Farage after Brexit vote' Tycoon provided Farage with Chelsea home, car and money to promote him in US,
Arron Banks 'spent £450,000 on Nigel Farage in year after Brexit vote - providing him with £4.4m Chelsea home, £32,000 Land Rover Discovery, close protection driver, furniture and even utility bills'
Arron Banks ‘bankrolled Nigel Farage’s lavish lifestyle with £450,000 funding’, investigation finds Ex-Ukip ally paid for £4.4m rented London home, a luxury car, a bodyguard, a private office and trips to the United States,
Millionaire Arron Banks ‘spent £450,000 bankrolling Nigel Farage’s lavish lifestyle’ Farage's friend 'paid for rent on a Chelsea home, use of a Land Rover Discovery and a Westminster office'
McDonald's asked not to sell milkshakes during Farage rally
Police asked a McDonald's in Edinburgh not to sell ice cream or milkshakes during a rally run by Nigel Farage. As hundreds of Brexit Party supporters joined a rally led by Mr Farage at Edinburgh's Corn Exchange, the nearby branch of the fast food chain avoided selling the products - to prevent a repeat of recent dairy-based attacks.
It comes after far-right figures including Tommy Robinson and Carl Benjamin have had food and drink thrown at them as they campaign. The former English Defence League leader, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, has been hit by milkshakes twice in two days while on the campaign trail in the north of England.
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You must learn to leave the hot potato alone and stick to your own threads, they are where you shine. fwiw woof
Really don't care what anyone thinks of my opinions , I'm of that age .
This is a forum , where you would assume that all opinions are of merit .
The silent army of leave supporters will have their day like they did in the Local Elections. For "May" to say Conservatives are the only Party to deliver Brexit is laughable given they've had three years to do it and we're still in Leave limbo.
You don't have to be Master Mind to work out they & Labour are not the people to trust to see Brexit through. Anyway, Brexit is secondary now as Democracy is more important.
Like Doctors, Surgeons, Soldiers, so MP's Prime Ministers should be accountable in Law.
If you voted for brexit ..then vote for the brexit party in the European elections
ANNUNZIATA Rees-Mogg revealed the number one phrase voters are telling her as she campaigns for the Brexit Party ahead of the European elections this coming week.
Nigel Farage’s Brexit Party are topping the polls ahead of the European elections scheduled for May 23. Jacob Rees-Mogg’s sister, Annunziata, who left the Conservative Party to run as an MEP for the Brexit Party has revealed the number one phrase voters are telling her in the East Midlands. Speaking to Express.co.uk, Ms Rees-Mogg claimed all British voters had been betrayed by the Conservative Party’s devastating handling of Brexit.
Asked what voters were telling her throughout the campaign, Ms Rees-Mogg said: “Thank you. The number one phrase anyone says to me is thank you. It has been utterly overwhelming.
“For so long they have been ignored by both the main parties.
“They have seen the betrayal of what they wanted their politicians to do, how they went back on what they said they would do, and they haven’t had anyone to vote for. They haven’t had anyone they believed would truly represent them.
“Finally the Brexit Party has given them the hope that politics can be made better and restored the faith for the people.”
It comes with the latest YouGov survey of voter intentions for the European elections placing the Tories in fifth place behind Nigel Farage’s eurosceptic Party, Labour, Liberal Democrats and the Green Party.
The Brexit Party received over a third of all votes, polling at 35 percent, Lib Dems has 16 percent, Labour has 15 percent, Green Party 10 percent and Conservatives on just nine percent.
The YouGov survey took place between May 12 and May 16 and quizzed 7,192 adults in the UK on their voting intentions for the European elections.
Asked about the Brexit Party’s success in the polls, and what they can expect in the vote on Thursday, Ms Rees-Mogg said: “Making predictions is a fool's errand. We will do as well as people think we deserve to do
I hope that will be extremely high. Certainly, the reception we are getting is certainly positive.”
Asked if the Brexit Party has the Conservative Party on the back-foot ahead of the EU elections, Ms Rees-Mogg claimed the Tories “deserve to be” behind in the polls.
She added: “They have under Theresa May, betrayed the Brexit that people voted for in 2016.
“They should have reflected what people asked of them and what they promised in their manifesto, in numerous speeches, and in different moments in the press over the last three years.
“They have gone back on all of their promises and I don’t think they can currently command the respect of the electorate.”
Ms Rees-Mogg added the ambition for the party was to show the Conservative’s how much the British people are against the Prime Minister’s agreement, and will “go on” to fight a future general election to “push through a clean Brexit.”
Speaking in Wales earlier this week, Brexit Party leader, Mr Farage, said: “The reason we’ve got division in this country is that many in our establishment, far from respecting the vote, have done everything they can in the last two years to overturn the greatest democratic exercise in the history of our nation. And it is a total and utter disgrace.”
With European elections taking place on Thursday, Mrs May has pledged to set the date of her departure as leader after her last-ditch effort to get her Brexit deal through the House of Commons at the start of June.
It came following a meeting with the Conservative Party’s influential 1922 Committee who had demanded Mrs May set out a roadmap to when she would step down.
The Prime Minister had promised to step down before the second stage of Brexit negotiations, but following damaging local election results, and uncertainty over her Brexit withdrawal agreement, some members of her own party had called for Mrs May to resign.
After the meeting, chairman of the 1922, Sir Graham Brady, said: "The Prime Minister is determined to secure our departure from the European Union and is devoting her efforts to securing the second reading of the Withdrawal Agreement Bill in the week commencing 3rd June 2019 and the passage of that Bill and the consequent departure of the United Kingdom from the European Union by the Summer.
"We have agreed that she and I will meet following the 2nd Reading of the Bill to agree to a timetable for the election of a new leader of the Conservative and Unionist Party."
Mrs May will bring the Withdrawal Agreement Bill (WAB), which implements the departure terms, to parliament for a vote in the week beginning June 3 just as US President Donald Trump begins a state visit to Britain.
Brexit Secretary Stephen Barclay told the Lords EU Committee if the Prime Minster’s deal is rejected again, then the “Barnier deal is dead.”
On Friday, Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn claimed the cross-party Brexit talks with the Government had “gone as far as they can” and were “unable to bridge important policy gaps
NIGEL Farage’s surging Brexit Party represents an “existential threat” to the Tories and could wreak havoc at the next general election, especially if predictions of success during next week’s European vote are accurate, a political analyst has said
Professor Tony Travers also warned the ultimate result could let Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn into Number 10 “by accident”. The former UKIP leader only returned to the fray in January with the launch of his new political venture - but polls suggest he is on course for remarkable success in the European Parliamentary elections on May 23. Prof Travers of the London School of Economics (LSE) said this would put him on course to do major damage to the Conservative Party’s brand whenever a general election is called.
He told Express.co.uk: “Nigel Farage is hoping a party created a few weeks ago can supplant one which dates back to the 18th century.
“The acid test will be whether a minority of Conservative MPs would decide to change their allegiance and join him.
“If that happened then I think the Conservative Party would be very badly damaged.
“There are a number of Conservative MPs who are under threat from the Brexit Party.”
A complicating factor was Mr Farage’s indication that he would not field candidates in areas where the MP had demonstrated his or her “loyalty” to Brexit, Prof Travers explained.
Therefore, any MP not seen to be sufficiently pro-Brexit will face being unseated, he added, with any of them with a majority in the low thousands likely to be nervous.
In reality, this was likely to mean anyone who votes for Mrs May’s withdrawal agreement when it goes before the Commons at the start of June, he said - with 1922 Committee chairman Sir Graham Brady one of the MPs whose seat could be in jeopardy.
Prof Travers said: “If the Tories aren’t panicking by now, they ought to be.
Clearly there is a real existential threat to the Conservative Party, which is badly divided as it is, more so than to Labour or the Liberal Democrats.”
The rise of Mr Farage’s fledgling party offered the perfect illustration of the extraordinary political times Britons were living through, Prof Travers said.
He added: “I do think things are changing.
“The combined Conservative/Labour has been in long-term decline.
“It was 97 percent in 1955 and by 2015 it had dropped to 65 percent.
“It bounced back a bit in 2017 but if the combined vote is going to decline and fragment further then we could end up with seeing a radical change.
“You have to remember the two-party system that everybody has lived with is the successor of the Conservatives versus Liberals system which went before.”
“The question is, does the arrival of the Brexit Party so fragment the centre-right that Labour wins by accident next time, with 24 or 25 percent of the vote?
“In our voting system, the biggest party only has to be two or three percent ahead of the next one to win an election.”
The Brexit Party is holding a rally in Frimley. Join the Brexiteer fightback!
About this Event
Join us at Lakeside Country Club at 5pm on Sunday 19th May. There is plenty of free on site parking.
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Date And Time
Sun, 19 May 2019
17:00 – 19:00 BST
Location
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The Brexit Party is holding a rally in London. Join the Brexiteer fightback!
About this Event
Join us at London Olympia at 7pm on Tuesday 21st May.
Date And Time
Tue, 21 May 2019
19:00 – 21:00 BST
Location
Olympia London
Hammersmith Road
London
W14 8UX
The Mirror's Paul Routledge follows Farage on the election trail as he visits Merthyr Tydfil in South Wales
This is Nye Bevan and Michael Foot country. Keir Hardie came here to light the flame of socialism more than a century ago.
These Labour-loyal Welsh valleys took radical American singer Paul Robeson to their hearts.
But could they possibly become the political killing fields for Nigel Farage next week? He thinks they can. He aims to “smash the establishment”.
After a rapturous reception in Yorkshire mining towns, the Brexit leader took his message to former coal and steel communities of South Wales.
Alighting from his blue and white battle (or is that bottle?) bus, the Brexit party leader was mobbed in the High Street of Merthyr Tydfil – but by the media not local people. His message was greeted with as many insults as cheers.
The walkabout came to a halt outside the town’s Wetherspoons – Y Dic Penderyn – named after the martyred leader of the Merthyr Rising of 1831. Farage never went inside, which must be a first.
On this spot, the Red Flag was raised for the first time in the UK in a revolt of the downtrodden 188 years ago. “You’re not welcome here!” shouted musician Stephen Williams, 41, organiser of celebrations for an anniversary event. His friends used language not suitable for a family newspaper.
But at the same time there were a good few cheered greetings from windows of “Good luck, Nigel”.
Farage also had a good reception in the vape shop. He admitted trying e-cigs “but they made me cough.”
Merthyr has benefited enormously from EU funding, the second-most in Wales. New landscaped spaces, a college, social enterprises and even a Institute for the Blind.
Yet the constituency voted 56-44% Leave in the referendum three years ago. Only a rash punter would bet that they won’t vote Brexit on Thursday.
Canvassing on the Gurnos estate suggests a big swing from Labour to “Out Now!” A common theme was disillusion with Labour.
A 76-year- old charity shop worker, who had driven three hours from North Wales to see his hero said: “I’ve always voted Labour, but all I want to do is get Brexit through. I’ll vote for that again and again until it goes through, hopefully.”
Another, told me: “I voted for Corbyn because he said he would listen to the people. But he hasn’t, has he? That’s why I’m here.” Both declined to give their names.
Farage sees himself as a latter-day Hardie: a man who broke the mould of British politics. On stage, he even compared himself to the socialist pioneer at an evening rally in the car park of Trago Mills, an out-of-town cut-price emporium run by a Brexit supporter.
Seats were advertised at £2.50 a time (bring own chair). But the audience wasn’t quite up to expectations, and tickets were abandoned. Hundreds of placards were left uncollected.
But it was more successful than his town-centre me-me-talkabout. Several hundred people, mostly middle aged or older but with a fair sprinkling of young ’uns, turned up for a show that was part panto, part hate-fest and part pop-festival.
Loud music, big-screen videos, ooohing of Brexiteers, booing of Labour, the Tories, civil servants, Anna Soubry, and the rest of the stage villains preceded Farage’s familiar rhetoric.
He lashed out at a couple of dozen Remain protesters and accused Theresa May of building a coalition against the people. “We will not stand for it,” he bellowed.
Farage is loud about Leave and Tory/Labour “betrayal”, but silent about the big issues that affect the people he claims adore him.
The NHS? “I am not going to play that game.” Policies on housing, taxes – anything: “I’ll tell you after the election.”
This must be the first time a leader has refused to reveal his plans until after the votes are in. Farage is blasé. “This election is about Brexit, not manifestos,” he said.
“I will never, ever have a manifesto. Manifesto equals lies.”
Local MP Gerald Jones, a shadow defence minister with a 16,000 majority, told the Mirror: “What we want is an end to Tory austerity, an end to in work-poverty and investment in vital public services – not a simple solution to complex problems.
“If Nigel Farage cared about working class communities like those in the Welsh valleys, he would not be pushing for a catastrophic no-deal Brexit.”
When the moment came, I asked Farage: “What is your message to Mirror readers?” He said Remainers could vote Labour. But for Labour leavers, he said the MEP list system “is not for you.”
Eh? Where is his slick slogan “Tell Them Again”! He said: “We have a credible offer – that’s one of the reasons we have left of centre candidates as well.”
Not the stuff to give the troops for a second Rising, Mr Mini-Trump. Maybe he’s too smart to let the venom show.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/nigel-farage-rolls-labour-country-16157779
NIGEL FARAGE has identified the main problem with Brexit and has used it to surge ahead of the Conservative Party, an expert has argued.
Since creating the Brexit Party, Mr Farage has used the failure to deliver on the Brexit referendum to create a party that has surged ahead of both Labour and the Tories in the EU election polls. The Tory party was severely punished during the recent local elections and in a recent YouGov poll, the Conservative Party has now fallen behind the Greens and Lib Dems. Speaking to the Express.co.uk, Dr Simon Usherwood, deputy chair at The UK in Changing Europe think tank argued Mr Farage has used the major problem of the current Brexit predicament to shoot his party up the polls
Dr Usherwood said: “Farage has tapped into a thick seem of where Brexit is and that is that it’s stuck.
“At the moment he’s the only one that comes up with a strong argument.
“He’s got all the best tunes on Brexit, he’s got a clear message.
“He has credibility that some politicians might not have.”
Mr Farage has been in a defiant mood recently and even boasted that his party has already gathered over 100,000 registered supporters in five weeks.
The Brexit Party leader has seemingly capitalised on the current struggles of both the Tories and Labour who yesterday confirmed that their cross-party talks were concluded.
Unfortunately for Theresa May, her attempt at trying to gain some crucial support for her Brexit deal has failed as she could not come to a compromise with Jeremy Corbyn.
In light of that, Dr Usherwood added the worry for most of the parties is not the power Mr Farage has at the moment but more the influence he “may have after the election” and whether other politicians will try to match him
Speaking to the BBC yesterday, Mr Farage insisted that a new Tory leader should be “fearful” of the success of his party at a future general election.
Moreover, Mr Farage claimed that “no deal will be back on the table” if his party wins in the EU Elections next week.
He said: “If the Brexit Party could win these elections next week and win them well, leaving with no deal is back on the table.
“I’m going to demand that we have representation in those negotiations because we will have a democratic mandate to do so
“And I think Mrs May will have been gone within a few weeks, we may just get a Prime Minister who for fear of the Brexit Party says ‘We’re leaving on October 31 regardless’.”
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1128762/Brexit-news-latest-nigel-farage-Brexit-party-eu-elections-Tory-party-Theresa-may-leave-eu
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As @jeremycorbyn withdraws from the talks, Labour is now almost entirely a second referendum party.
Worse still, it wants a ‘confirmatory vote’ that would not put a genuine leave option on the ballot paper.
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Democracy only works if the losers accept the result. Our ambition is much bigger than Brexit. We want to transform the political landscape and sweep aside the two-party system.
Nigel Farage received £450,000 from the founder of pro-Brexit group Leave.EU in the year after the Brexit referendum.
Items paid for by Arron Banks included Mr Farage's London home, his car and trips to the US to meet Donald Trump.
A spokesman for Mr Banks confirmed the amount and what it had been used for,
Speaking at the launch of the Brexit party campaign in Scotland, Mr Farage said he did not declare it to the European Parliament because he was about to leave politics and had been seeking a new life in the US.
When campaigning in Dudley, West Midlands, Mr Farage was asked if he had received £450,000 from Mr Banks and said "unfortunately not", adding that if he had, "it would be lovely".
The Leave.EU founder said he had "willingly helped Farage and was honoured to do so", adding: "This was all designed to help Nigel get out of politics."
A spokesman for the European Parliament said that MEPs have to declare any spending linked to political activity that is paid for by third parties.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48315552
Now what was the outcome of that......... both had an Army behind them.
He's denied it ...and it is now up to C4 to provide the evidence ( saying you have seen the evidence isn't proving it )
Perhaps you will also note the word " allegations" .
Arron Banks gave '£450,000 funding to Nigel Farage after Brexit vote'
Tycoon provided Farage with Chelsea home, car and money to promote him in US,
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/16/arron-banks-allegedly-gave-450000-funding-to-nigel-farage-after-brexit-vote
Arron Banks ‘bankrolled Nigel Farage’s lavish lifestyle with £450,000 funding’, investigation finds
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/arron-banks-bankrolled-nigel-farage-160000773.html
Leave.EU founder confirms he funded Nigel Farage in year after referendum
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48315552
Arron Banks gave '£450,000 funding to Nigel Farage after Brexit vote'
Tycoon provided Farage with Chelsea home, car and money
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/16/arron-banks-allegedly-gave-450000-funding-to-nigel-farage-after-brexit-vote
Arron Banks 'spent £450,000 on Nigel Farage in year after Brexit vote - providing him with £4.4m Chelsea home, £32,000 Land Rover Discovery, close protection driver, furniture and even utility bills'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7037651/Arron-Banks-spent-450k-Nigel-Farage-including-4-4m-home-Land-Rover-utility-bills.html
Arron Banks ‘bankrolled Nigel Farage’s lavish lifestyle with £450,000 funding’, investigation finds
Ex-Ukip ally paid for £4.4m rented London home, a luxury car, a bodyguard, a private office and trips to the United States,
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-brexit-party-arron-banks-salary-us-brexit-lifestyle-a8917281.html
Millionaire Arron Banks ‘spent £450,000 bankrolling Nigel Farage’s lavish lifestyle’
Farage's friend 'paid for rent on a Chelsea home, use of a Land Rover Discovery and a Westminster office'
https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/millionaire-arron-banks-spent-450000-bankrolling-nigel-farages-lavish-lifestyle/
Police asked a McDonald's in Edinburgh not to sell ice cream or milkshakes during a rally run by Nigel Farage.
As hundreds of Brexit Party supporters joined a rally led by Mr Farage at Edinburgh's Corn Exchange, the nearby branch of the fast food chain avoided selling the products - to prevent a repeat of recent dairy-based attacks.
It comes after far-right figures including Tommy Robinson and Carl Benjamin have had food and drink thrown at them as they campaign.
The former English Defence League leader, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, has been hit by milkshakes twice in two days while on the campaign trail in the north of England.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/politics/mcdonalds-asked-not-to-sell-milkshakes-during-farage-rally/ar-AABybmS?ocid=spartandhp