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The General Election.

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  • kapowblamzkapowblamz Member Posts: 1,586
    Incidentally GBP bounced at 7pm around the same time tories shortened. Shrug.
  • kapowblamzkapowblamz Member Posts: 1,586
    Might as well go to bed then!
  • lucy4lucy4 Member Posts: 7,933
    C4 Alternative Election Night Stanley Johnson claims Boris is and always has been a Pro European...
  • dragon1964dragon1964 Member Posts: 3,054
    It looks like racism, greed, hate and lies wins.
    On both sides of the Atlantic.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,838
    edited December 2019
    Election results: Who are the major political casualties?













    Conservative Zac Goldsmith lost his seat in the London seat of Richmond Park to Liberal Democrat Sarah Olney
    Former Conservative MP Sarah Wollaston, who joined the Liberal Democrats earlier this year, lost her Totnes seat
    DUP Westminster leader Nigel Dodds lost his Belfast North seat to Sinn Fein - he had held the seat since 2001
    Labour's Caroline Flint was defeated by the Conservatives in Don Valley - a seat which has been Labour since 1922
    Commentators had called her a future leader of the Labour party, but 32-year-old Laura Pidcock lost her seat of Durham North West to the Conservatives
    And new Lib Dem recruits - ex-Labour MPs Chuka Umunna and Luciana Berger, and former Tory minister Sam Gyimah - failed to win a seat
    Former Tory Dominic Grieve, who fought many battles against Brexit in the Commons, lost his seat in Beaconsfield, gaining 16,000 votes to Tory candidate Joy Morrissey's 32,477 votes
    Another former Tory Anna Soubry, who leads the Independent Group for Change party and fought against Brexit, lost her seat to her ex-party in Broxtowe. She got 4,668 to the Conservatives' 26,602


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50768964
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,838
    Jeremy Corbyn: 'I will not lead Labour at next election'


  • lucy4lucy4 Member Posts: 7,933
    FOR SALE
    Used megaphone has been well used constantly for the past 3 years.No longer required due to loss of job,collection is from Parliament Square,will also come with an E.U. flag.


  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,838
  • lucy4lucy4 Member Posts: 7,933
    lucy4 said:

    I really can't see Labour coming out of this election very well at all.Maybe if it was a normal run of the mill election without the Brexit issue they would have a decent chance of winning but with the Brexit Party and Lib-Dems taking votes from the two main party's,he's in for a bad Friday the 13th.

  • lucy4lucy4 Member Posts: 7,933
    lucy4 said:

    Goodbye Corbyn.

    It was always on the cards once Farage sold out his party followers.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,838
    lucy4 said:

    lucy4 said:

    I really can't see Labour coming out of this election very well at all.Maybe if it was a normal run of the mill election without the Brexit issue they would have a decent chance of winning but with the Brexit Party and Lib-Dems taking votes from the two main party's,he's in for a bad Friday the 13th.

    The country was split around 50/50 0n Brexit.

    The Tories killed the Brexit Party, on the leave side.

    The Lib Dems went backwards on the remain side.

    Anyone that wishes to sit on fences, is not capable of being a political leader.

    The fact that the Labour Party have more members than any other political party in Europe, makes this performance worse.

    They have more activists than any other UK party, they apparently had 700 people knocking doors in just one constituency the other night.

    I have listened to numerous politicians over the last 6 weeks, spouting off about what people were saying on the doorstep, Labour obviously weren't listening.

    Labour brag about being the most democratic party, but the organisation clearly doesn't work.

    Jon Ashworth was clearly telling the truth rather than being involved in banter, the other day.

    The MPs were right to rebel against Corbyn.

    The Labour Party had to be deluded to think that he could win an election.

    They have some very credible candidates for the leadership job, although I am not sure if they will choose one of them.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,838
    lucy4 said:

    lucy4 said:

    Goodbye Corbyn.

    It was always on the cards once Farage sold out his party followers.
    The Tories won seats that had always been Labour, and the Brexit Party were irrelevant in these seats.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,838
    lucy4 said:

    lucy4 said:

    Goodbye Corbyn.

    It was always on the cards once Farage sold out his party followers.
    He said the other day he is now going to start The Reform Party.
  • lucy4lucy4 Member Posts: 7,933
    HAYSIE said:

    lucy4 said:

    lucy4 said:

    Goodbye Corbyn.

    It was always on the cards once Farage sold out his party followers.
    The Tories won seats that had always been Labour, and the Brexit Party were irrelevant in these seats.
    In Thurrock Essex (the 4th highest % of leave votes in the referendum) the Tories increased their majority from 345 to 11,482 after Farage pulled the candidate out.If Farage wanted the party to have a chance of obtaining a sitting M.P. then surely this was his chance to achieve that.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,838
    For the Financial Times, Boris Johnson's election gamble has paid off in "spectacular style" after the public overwhelmingly embraced his "Get Brexit Done" campaign slogan.
    "Rejoice! " is the headline for the Daily Mail. The paper says Boris Johnson's "thumping win" will finally see Brexit delivered - and sound the death knell for another EU referendum.
    The Mail says voters delivered a humiliating verdict on Jeremy Corbyn's brand of socialism. It forecasts an "extraordinary civil war" in Labour's ranks and a brutal leadership contest.
    For the Guardian, the result is a "crushing defeat" for Mr Corbyn, and a repudiation of his offer of "real change" for Britain.



    The Daily Telegraph says Jeremy Corbyn has now cemented his place as the least popular and least successful Labour leader in modern history.
    The Times believes Brexit and Boris Johnson have re-drawn the electoral map by smashing through Labour's red wall of seats in Northern England and the Midlands.
    The paper predicts tension between London and Edinburgh over a second independence referendum, thanks to the scale of the SNP's projected success.
    The Daily Express welcomes what it says is a decisive vote in favour of Parliament finally respecting the EU referendum result, and freeing the UK from Brussels' rule.
    "Nightmare before Christmas" is the headline for the Daily Mirror - which predicts five more years of "Tory ****".

    The Sun says it's a far better result than the Conservatives were expecting. Its editorial says "well done Britain and well done Boris" - and hopes that Jeremy Corbyn and what it calls his cult of halfwits have been crushed.
    "Johnson unleashed" is the i newspaper's headline. It predicts Brexit in 49 days - but also a battle for the future of the UK because of gains by the SNP.
    In Scotland, the Herald warns of a looming constitutional crisis over Scottish independence following the SNP's 48-seat victory. The Daily Record's headline is "Britain on the brink".

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-50768143
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,838
    edited December 2019
    lucy4 said:

    lucy4 said:

    I really can't see Labour coming out of this election very well at all.Maybe if it was a normal run of the mill election without the Brexit issue they would have a decent chance of winning but with the Brexit Party and Lib-Dems taking votes from the two main party's,he's in for a bad Friday the 13th.


    He sounds much more like a leader than Corbyn.




    'I want Momentum gone': Alan Johnson slams Labour left after exit poll result

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_C6wrSgqtA
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,838
    Devoid of agility, charisma and credibility, Corbyn has led Labour into the abyss



    The nightmare has happened. The worst of men is elected prime minister. The hardest of times lie ahead. Unfit in every way for any kind of office, Boris Johnson takes up the reins of absolute power bestowed on any leader with such a majority.

    Who is to blame? There are the lies of the extreme Tory press, echoing around all media – but Labour always faces that injustice. It is the rough sea that any leader must try to navigate. Unabashed by valiant Full Facts and FactChecks, Johnson found he can repeat a lie a thousand times with utter impunity with no one to stop him except the people – and they have preferred the lie.
    They are not deceived: they call him untrustworthy. Anyone listening hears his plans for revenge on all who thwarted him: he will dilute the powers of the supreme court for defying him. He threatens Channel 4 and the BBC with malevolent “reviews”. Beware any civil servant or regulator who gets in his way, as he curtails the right to judicial review and threatens the Human Rights Act with an “updating”. The pound surges as City folk fear paying higher tax, more than they fear a bad Brexit crippling the entire economy.



    Given the worst choice in history, the public preferred him to his opponent. How bad did Labour have to be to let this sociopathic, narcissistic, glutton for power beat them? That’s the soul-searching question every Labour member, office-holder and MP has to ask.
    Labour was disastrously, catastrophically bad, an agony to behold. A coterie of Corbynites cared more about gripping power within the party than saving the country by winning the election. The NEC, a slate of nodding Corbynite place-persons, disgraced the party with its sectarian decisions. Once it was plain in every poll and focus group that Corbynism was electoral arsenic, they should have propelled him out, but electoral victory was secondary.
    Laugh or cry at Corbyn’s announcement he wouldn’t stand for another election? He should have gone before dawn. Any possible or impossible successor will clear out that Len McCluskey clique – Karie Murphy, Seumas Milne, Andrew Murray and others who propped up the old fellow to secure their own power base, with results worse than Michael Foot. Watch them try to divert blame onto “Corbyn-disloyalists”, “remainers” and ”Blairites”

    Corbyn is not an amoral man. He can never tell a lie: pretending to watch the Queen’s Christmas message in the morning showed he’s not used to fibbing. He is a man without any qualities required of a leader, mental agility, articulacy, strategy, good humour or charisma.

    Yet his legacy is of historic importance: he did this country profound, nation-splitting, irreparable harm. Had he led his party and the unions full tilt against Brexit, the narrowly lost referendum could have been won. But he and his cabal refused outright: when beseeched, they said they were too busy with that May’s local elections. He wouldn’t share any remain platform. Festering Bennite 1970s ideologies blinded his sect from seeing Brexit was the far right’s weapon of buccaneering destruction. He could have saved us – but he obfuscated.
    Corbyn came weighted with baggage too heavy for a Hercules to shift: the IRA, the Hamas friends, Venezuela. But antisemitism was accusation he could not shift. I am certain he sees no stain of it in himself, refusing to comprehend it and so could not apologise. Failure to purge every case left candidates on the doorstep dumbstruck when anyone said “I can’t vote for an antisemite”. And remember that early refusal to sing the national anthem? Voters’ first impression was his deep-seated aversion to expressing patriotism.

    The campaign was chaotic, all front bench talent banished for fear of outshining the leader. Toe-curlingly bad performers and insignificants were punted up as loyalists, while serious heavyweights Keir Starmer and Emily Thornberry might as well have been shut in Johnson’s freezer. Even John McDonnell, better by far than Corbyn, was largely kept from the cameras. Corbyn’s sectarian grudges prevented any effort to heal the party’s rift, leaving immense talent wasted on the back benches.
    Here’s the real tragedy. The manifesto was essentially magnificent. The vision was of a country freed from years of darkness with green investment, growth in places that most need it, salving the many wounds of marrow-deep cuts, restoring pride in the public sphere and hope in a future that was absolutely affordable. Why should we not tax and spend the same as similar north European countries? But if socialism is the language of priorities, these were lost in a profusion of never-ending promises too easily mocked. The political landscape was never prepared, soil untilled, last-minute policies falling on stony ground. Where was the simple five-point pledge card?


    Credibility is everything and Corbyn lacked it like no other. Without credibility all was lost. Think on it, every Labour member. It will be a long, long road up from such a fall. There will be days to consider hope: today is for confronting reality.

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/devoid-of-agility-charisma-and-credibility-corbyn-has-led-labour-into-the-abyss/ar-AAK5biL?ocid=spartanntp
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,838
    lucy4 said:

    HAYSIE said:

    lucy4 said:

    lucy4 said:

    Goodbye Corbyn.

    It was always on the cards once Farage sold out his party followers.
    The Tories won seats that had always been Labour, and the Brexit Party were irrelevant in these seats.
    In Thurrock Essex (the 4th highest % of leave votes in the referendum) the Tories increased their majority from 345 to 11,482 after Farage pulled the candidate out.If Farage wanted the party to have a chance of obtaining a sitting M.P. then surely this was his chance to achieve that.
    I think the point was that if the Brexit Party stood against the Tories they would have reduced their vote, blocked them winning a majority and stopped Brexit.

    Had he done this he would have looked stupid.

    The same sort of stupid you look, when you don't win any seats.

    The Brexit Party is dead.

    He had already registered The Reform Party before the election.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,838
    Beginning of the end of UK?



    Election results 2019: Nicola Sturgeon says PM has 'no right' to block Indyref2




    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50779724
  • lucy4lucy4 Member Posts: 7,933
    He's off to be Trump's puppet for most of the year.




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