I’d decline a vaccination. By the time a vaccination is found, if ever, there will be plenty more information available on this virus. From the off, as it was a new virus, the treatment some were receiving in hospital was incorrect, not the fault of the Health services though. With more data coming in, there is every reason to believe the virus can be treated with a far better outcome in most cases. Although, if a patient has a chronic case, generally meaning the virus has multiplied,and a patient needs a ventilator, the outlook is quite grim,and will always likely to be. But who knows, they might find something to kill the virus, even the chronic cases. There is likely to be research done on this virus for years to come, regardless whether a vaccine is found or not.
What will need injections are the economies of the world. So mass unemployment is a certainty for the foreseeable, imo. But that’s another topic, global chains out of kilter, trade tensions etc.
There’s a gathering this week involving the WHO member states. That’s guaranteed to be lively,with not much talk about finding a vaccination I’d expect.
My own view on the virus is that it was here long before we were watching for cases to pop up in the U.K. I reckon it was here at the end of 2019, and when it was getting covered by the media, mainly due to what was being shown from China, we started looking out for it. It’s so similar to a bad case of pneumonia. My money would be on thousands of infected here early January. A vaccine will never be compulsory in a democratic country.
Terrifying amount of people who believe A) the stuff posted above, and B ) are openly willing to share it
Have you ever looked into any of the sources you read?
"Zero hedge" is an anonymous blog post website with it's tagline being a quote from Fight Club. As recently as February their twitter (which has 600k followers!) wrote an article claiming to know the man who "created" the coronavirus in a Wuhan lab. They were banned from the platform (pretty hard to do).
Globalresearch.ca? Non peer-reviewed, mainly political and news commentary "mainstream alternative" website. Absolutely baffling you think that because something is mentioned here (and nowhere on any formal scientific or peer reviewed magazine) it is true or more true than reputable sources
Take a step back, not everything is a global conspiracy to keep you down.
"Collective Evolution", the known 9/11 conspiracy theorists and for-profit clickbait website and a 5 year old article with 2 comments on the Daily Mail. Colour me an anti-vaxxer
"Overall, we rate Collective-Evolution a quackery level pseudoscience website based on promoting miracle cures, anti-vaxx propaganda and 9/11 conspiracies."
I read the DM article, seems the main issue is around informed consent (or lack of it) and it is at the start of a court process so let's wait for the outcome.
EDIT: Didn't check the date so thanks for pointing that out Allan. I assume that if the court case had gone against the pharma co's then there would be many more and later reports?
Do we think there will be a successful (for the population rather than for the pharma co that sells it) Covid 19 vaccine? There isn't one for SARS and MERS which have been around for years.
The 'successful' flu vaccine is stated as being 40-60% effective.
What other things will they be putting into the vaccine?
Take a step back, not everything is a global conspiracy to keep you down.
Very true, hope the vaccine is for the right reasons and not solely a profit/control driven exercise.
Profit is a huge motivator.
If the drug companies think they can make good money from a COVID vaccine, they are FAR more likely to come up with the answer. That's their sole incentive, & that is how the free economy works.
"Overall, we rate Collective-Evolution a quackery level pseudoscience website based on promoting miracle cures, anti-vaxx propaganda and 9/11 conspiracies."
I read the DM article, seems the main issue is around informed consent (or lack of it) and it is at the start of a court process so let's wait for the outcome.
EDIT: Didn't check the date so thanks for pointing that out Allan. I assume that if the court case had gone against the pharma co's then there would be many more and later reports?
I really struggle to trust much from "the papers".
"Collective Evolution", the known 9/11 conspiracy theorists and for-profit clickbait website and a 5 year old article with 2 comments on the Daily Mail. Colour me an anti-vaxxer
Always had an issue with the terms conspiracy theory/theorist et all. It has a habit of turning people off and shutting down any healthy debate.
"Collective Evolution", the known 9/11 conspiracy theorists and for-profit clickbait website and a 5 year old article with 2 comments on the Daily Mail. Colour me an anti-vaxxer
Always had an issue with the terms conspiracy theory/theorist et all. It has a habit of turning people off and shutting down any healthy debate.
Calling out extremely wacky and inaccurate claims as conspiracy theories is vital to ensuring a debate stays healthy
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By the time a vaccination is found, if ever, there will be plenty more information available on this virus. From the off, as it was a new virus, the treatment some were receiving in hospital was incorrect, not the fault of the Health services though.
With more data coming in, there is every reason to believe the virus can be treated with a far better outcome in most cases. Although, if a patient has a chronic case, generally meaning the virus has multiplied,and a patient needs a ventilator, the outlook is quite grim,and will always likely to be. But who knows, they might find something to kill the virus, even the chronic cases.
There is likely to be research done on this virus for years to come, regardless whether a vaccine is found or not.
What will need injections are the economies of the world.
So mass unemployment is a certainty for the foreseeable, imo.
But that’s another topic, global chains out of kilter, trade tensions etc.
There’s a gathering this week involving the WHO member states.
That’s guaranteed to be lively,with not much talk about finding a vaccination I’d expect.
My own view on the virus is that it was here long before we were watching for cases to pop up in the U.K. I reckon it was here at the end of 2019, and when it was getting covered by the media, mainly due to what was being shown from China, we started looking out for it.
It’s so similar to a bad case of pneumonia. My money would be on thousands of infected here early January.
A vaccine will never be compulsory in a democratic country.
With his vaccines, Gates managed to sterilize millions of women in Africa. Gates caused a polio epidemic that paralyzed 500,000 children in India and still today with DTP, Gates causes more deaths than the disease itself. And he does the same with GMOs designed by Monsanto and “generously donated” to needy populations. All this while he is already thinking about distributing the quantum tattoo for vaccination recognition and mRNA vaccines as tools for reprogramming our immune system.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/mass-sterilization-kenyan-doctors-find-anti-fertility-agent-in-un-tetanus-vaccine/5431664
Get chipped with the vaccine:
https://id2020.org/
Have you ever looked into any of the sources you read?
"Zero hedge" is an anonymous blog post website with it's tagline being a quote from Fight Club. As recently as February their twitter (which has 600k followers!) wrote an article claiming to know the man who "created" the coronavirus in a Wuhan lab. They were banned from the platform (pretty hard to do).
Globalresearch.ca? Non peer-reviewed, mainly political and news commentary "mainstream alternative" website. Absolutely baffling you think that because something is mentioned here (and nowhere on any formal scientific or peer reviewed magazine) it is true or more true than reputable sources
Take a step back, not everything is a global conspiracy to keep you down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D1gJ_GygAI&t=61s
Here is one debunked not that conspiracy believers would accept it.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/bill-gates-id2020/
https://www.collective-evolution.com/2018/03/18/ex-prime-minister-exposes-tetanus-vaccine-in-kenya-as-a-targeted-mass-sterilization-program/
"Overall, we rate Collective-Evolution a quackery level pseudoscience website based on promoting miracle cures, anti-vaxx propaganda and 9/11 conspiracies."
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/collective-evolution/
I read the DM article, seems the main issue is around informed consent (or lack of it) and it is at the start of a court process so let's wait for the outcome.
EDIT: Didn't check the date so thanks for pointing that out Allan. I assume that if the court case had gone against the pharma co's then there would be many more and later reports?
The 'successful' flu vaccine is stated as being 40-60% effective.
What other things will they be putting into the vaccine?
I am also uneasy.
Seems to be two sides here which is good for debate. Finding out more will be this weeks project.
Always someone making money in a crisis like this. Follow the money
If the drug companies think they can make good money from a COVID vaccine, they are FAR more likely to come up with the answer. That's their sole incentive, & that is how the free economy works.
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Too much scrolling.
Delete.
Stay alert.
Could be a good starting point.
The only facts these days, in these times, are that there are no "facts"