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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,328
    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    Some folks are more worried than others regarding mask wearing.
    If they choose to wear them, let them.
    If the truth be known, then everybody would have a mask on all day, unless at home alone, or outside with no close contact with anybody.

    Eating with a mask on is a non starter. Unless of course, the meal gets blended in a glass and sucked through a straw via a tiny whole in ones mask, after the bung is carefully removed.

    Haysie, why don’t you try to come up with some conclusions yourself?

    This government is quite liberal imo, they are reluctant to force anybody to do anything.
    But that doesn’t mean there might come a time they force the issue. Think hospital capacity.

    Confused, you're not alone! Fewer than HALF of us now know what the lockdown rules actually are, compared with 90% in March



    University College London researchers found that only 45 per cent of people in England understand the lockdown rules, compared with 90 per cent understanding the rules in March.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
    The vulnerable will always be vulnerable.
    If folks struggled with’ stay alert’ , just two words, then a list of advice or rule changes will be lost on them, as things open up and close down again.
    Maybe reduce the message to one word.

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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,328
    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    Some folks are more worried than others regarding mask wearing.
    If they choose to wear them, let them.
    If the truth be known, then everybody would have a mask on all day, unless at home alone, or outside with no close contact with anybody.

    Eating with a mask on is a non starter. Unless of course, the meal gets blended in a glass and sucked through a straw via a tiny whole in ones mask, after the bung is carefully removed.

    Haysie, why don’t you try to come up with some conclusions yourself?

    This government is quite liberal imo, they are reluctant to force anybody to do anything.
    But that doesn’t mean there might come a time they force the issue. Think hospital capacity.

    Confused, you're not alone! Fewer than HALF of us now know what the lockdown rules actually are, compared with 90% in March



    University College London researchers found that only 45 per cent of people in England understand the lockdown rules, compared with 90 per cent understanding the rules in March.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
    The vulnerable will always be vulnerable.
    If folks struggled with’ stay alert’ , just two words, then a list of advice or rule changes will be lost on them, as things open up and close down again.
    Maybe reduce the message to one word.

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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,328
    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    Some folks are more worried than others regarding mask wearing.
    If they choose to wear them, let them.
    If the truth be known, then everybody would have a mask on all day, unless at home alone, or outside with no close contact with anybody.

    Eating with a mask on is a non starter. Unless of course, the meal gets blended in a glass and sucked through a straw via a tiny whole in ones mask, after the bung is carefully removed.

    Haysie, why don’t you try to come up with some conclusions yourself?

    This government is quite liberal imo, they are reluctant to force anybody to do anything.
    But that doesn’t mean there might come a time they force the issue. Think hospital capacity.

    Confused, you're not alone! Fewer than HALF of us now know what the lockdown rules actually are, compared with 90% in March



    University College London researchers found that only 45 per cent of people in England understand the lockdown rules, compared with 90 per cent understanding the rules in March.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
    The vulnerable will always be vulnerable.
    If folks struggled with’ stay alert’ , just two words, then a list of advice or rule changes will be lost on them, as things open up and close down again.
    Maybe reduce the message to one word.

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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,328
    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    Some folks are more worried than others regarding mask wearing.
    If they choose to wear them, let them.
    If the truth be known, then everybody would have a mask on all day, unless at home alone, or outside with no close contact with anybody.

    Eating with a mask on is a non starter. Unless of course, the meal gets blended in a glass and sucked through a straw via a tiny whole in ones mask, after the bung is carefully removed.

    Haysie, why don’t you try to come up with some conclusions yourself?

    This government is quite liberal imo, they are reluctant to force anybody to do anything.
    But that doesn’t mean there might come a time they force the issue. Think hospital capacity.

    Confused, you're not alone! Fewer than HALF of us now know what the lockdown rules actually are, compared with 90% in March



    University College London researchers found that only 45 per cent of people in England understand the lockdown rules, compared with 90 per cent understanding the rules in March.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
    The vulnerable will always be vulnerable.
    If folks struggled with’ stay alert’ , just two words, then a list of advice or rule changes will be lost on them, as things open up and close down again.
    Maybe reduce the message to one word.

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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,328
    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    Some folks are more worried than others regarding mask wearing.
    If they choose to wear them, let them.
    If the truth be known, then everybody would have a mask on all day, unless at home alone, or outside with no close contact with anybody.

    Eating with a mask on is a non starter. Unless of course, the meal gets blended in a glass and sucked through a straw via a tiny whole in ones mask, after the bung is carefully removed.

    Haysie, why don’t you try to come up with some conclusions yourself?

    This government is quite liberal imo, they are reluctant to force anybody to do anything.
    But that doesn’t mean there might come a time they force the issue. Think hospital capacity.

    Confused, you're not alone! Fewer than HALF of us now know what the lockdown rules actually are, compared with 90% in March



    University College London researchers found that only 45 per cent of people in England understand the lockdown rules, compared with 90 per cent understanding the rules in March.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
    The vulnerable will always be vulnerable.
    If folks struggled with’ stay alert’ , just two words, then a list of advice or rule changes will be lost on them, as things open up and close down again.
    Maybe reduce the message to one word.



    Back us over U-turn or I quit' is what the chairman of England's exam regulator, Ofqual told the education secretary this week, according to the front-page headline in The Guardian.
    It reports that Roger Taylor demanded a public statement of support from Gavin Williamson, after Oqual dropped a controversial algorithm in favour of teacher-assessed grades.
    But it's Mr Williamson himself who is vulnerable, according to the Financial Times. The paper says three cabinet ministers have told it that the education secretary's political future depends on the success of the full reopening of England's schools next month. "Gav has nowhere to hide if he fails again," says one.



    The Daily Telegraph reports the prime minister has had to cut his summer break in Scotland short.
    It says there were concerns about his safety, after photos were published of Boris Johnson's holiday cottage, giving away his location. They also revealed a bell tent next to the cottage, in an adjoining field - but the landowner, Kenny Cameron, told reporters that no-one asked his permission to erect it.
    Boris Johnson "thought he was going back to Mustique", writes Matt Chorley for a sketch in the Times. But he "borrowed Gavin Williamson's laptop" to book his holiday, and it "was downgraded to a tent in an angry farmer's field".



    The Times also carries a warning from a former head of the World Health Organization's cancer programme, Professor Karol Sikora, who says the coronavirus lockdown will "almost certainly" indirectly cause the death of some 30,000 cancer patients.
    He says Britain is already too slow at diagnosing patients and therefore Covid-19 will have the "worst effect" on them in Europe. His advice? "Don't get cancer in 2020".


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-53871062
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,328
    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    Some folks are more worried than others regarding mask wearing.
    If they choose to wear them, let them.
    If the truth be known, then everybody would have a mask on all day, unless at home alone, or outside with no close contact with anybody.

    Eating with a mask on is a non starter. Unless of course, the meal gets blended in a glass and sucked through a straw via a tiny whole in ones mask, after the bung is carefully removed.

    Haysie, why don’t you try to come up with some conclusions yourself?

    This government is quite liberal imo, they are reluctant to force anybody to do anything.
    But that doesn’t mean there might come a time they force the issue. Think hospital capacity.

    Confused, you're not alone! Fewer than HALF of us now know what the lockdown rules actually are, compared with 90% in March



    University College London researchers found that only 45 per cent of people in England understand the lockdown rules, compared with 90 per cent understanding the rules in March.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
    The vulnerable will always be vulnerable.
    If folks struggled with’ stay alert’ , just two words, then a list of advice or rule changes will be lost on them, as things open up and close down again.
    Maybe reduce the message to one word.
    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    Some folks are more worried than others regarding mask wearing.
    If they choose to wear them, let them.
    If the truth be known, then everybody would have a mask on all day, unless at home alone, or outside with no close contact with anybody.

    Eating with a mask on is a non starter. Unless of course, the meal gets blended in a glass and sucked through a straw via a tiny whole in ones mask, after the bung is carefully removed.

    Haysie, why don’t you try to come up with some conclusions yourself?

    This government is quite liberal imo, they are reluctant to force anybody to do anything.
    But that doesn’t mean there might come a time they force the issue. Think hospital capacity.

    Confused, you're not alone! Fewer than HALF of us now know what the lockdown rules actually are, compared with 90% in March



    University College London researchers found that only 45 per cent of people in England understand the lockdown rules, compared with 90 per cent understanding the rules in March.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
    The vulnerable will always be vulnerable.
    If folks struggled with’ stay alert’ , just two words, then a list of advice or rule changes will be lost on them, as things open up and close down again.
    Maybe reduce the message to one word.

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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,328
    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    Some folks are more worried than others regarding mask wearing.
    If they choose to wear them, let them.
    If the truth be known, then everybody would have a mask on all day, unless at home alone, or outside with no close contact with anybody.

    Eating with a mask on is a non starter. Unless of course, the meal gets blended in a glass and sucked through a straw via a tiny whole in ones mask, after the bung is carefully removed.

    Haysie, why don’t you try to come up with some conclusions yourself?

    This government is quite liberal imo, they are reluctant to force anybody to do anything.
    But that doesn’t mean there might come a time they force the issue. Think hospital capacity.

    Confused, you're not alone! Fewer than HALF of us now know what the lockdown rules actually are, compared with 90% in March



    University College London researchers found that only 45 per cent of people in England understand the lockdown rules, compared with 90 per cent understanding the rules in March.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
    The vulnerable will always be vulnerable.
    If folks struggled with’ stay alert’ , just two words, then a list of advice or rule changes will be lost on them, as things open up and close down again.
    Maybe reduce the message to one word.

    : Tories a byword for incompetence after last-minute eviction ban U-turn





    At the eleventh hour the Government has extended the ban on evictions brought in at the start of the coronavirus crisis.

    If ministers expect any thanks for this move, they are mistaken. This was a decision which should have been taken weeks ago, not hours before the deadline expired.

    They are yet to remove the threat of eviction for tens of thousands of tenants. By extending the ban until September 20, they have postponed the anxiety rather than resolve it.

    The fear of losing a home still hangs over more than 200,000 people who have fallen into arrears because of the Covid crisis.

    Communities Secretary Robert Jenrick had to be shamed into taking action by Labour, charities and local government leaders. They all warned that lifting the ban on evictions would lead to a rise in homelessness and possibly a surge in coronavirus cases.

    This is yet another last-minute U-turn by an administration which has become a byword for incompetence.

    What is needed now is a sustainable solution that works for tenants and landlords.

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/voice-of-the-mirror-tories-a-byword-for-incompetence-after-last-minute-eviction-ban-u-turn/ar-BB18eYg4
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,328
    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    Some folks are more worried than others regarding mask wearing.
    If they choose to wear them, let them.
    If the truth be known, then everybody would have a mask on all day, unless at home alone, or outside with no close contact with anybody.

    Eating with a mask on is a non starter. Unless of course, the meal gets blended in a glass and sucked through a straw via a tiny whole in ones mask, after the bung is carefully removed.

    Haysie, why don’t you try to come up with some conclusions yourself?

    This government is quite liberal imo, they are reluctant to force anybody to do anything.
    But that doesn’t mean there might come a time they force the issue. Think hospital capacity.

    Confused, you're not alone! Fewer than HALF of us now know what the lockdown rules actually are, compared with 90% in March



    University College London researchers found that only 45 per cent of people in England understand the lockdown rules, compared with 90 per cent understanding the rules in March.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
    The vulnerable will always be vulnerable.
    If folks struggled with’ stay alert’ , just two words, then a list of advice or rule changes will be lost on them, as things open up and close down again.
    Maybe reduce the message to one word.
    No lockdown, no masks, no hysteria... NO PROBLEM: Sweden didn't go into a corona coma - and it's living in glorious normality. Now DOMINIC SANDBROOK asks: Is this proof we got it all terribly wrong?



    DOMINIC SANDBROOK: Sweden had a long-established plan for a pandemic and was going to stick to it. People should be sensible, wash their hands, avoid public transport and keep a safe distance, but that was it. Closing schools was 'meaningless'. Shutting borders was 'ridiculous'. Masks were, by and large, a waste of time. Shops and restaurants should stay open.
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,328
    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    Some folks are more worried than others regarding mask wearing.
    If they choose to wear them, let them.
    If the truth be known, then everybody would have a mask on all day, unless at home alone, or outside with no close contact with anybody.

    Eating with a mask on is a non starter. Unless of course, the meal gets blended in a glass and sucked through a straw via a tiny whole in ones mask, after the bung is carefully removed.

    Haysie, why don’t you try to come up with some conclusions yourself?

    This government is quite liberal imo, they are reluctant to force anybody to do anything.
    But that doesn’t mean there might come a time they force the issue. Think hospital capacity.

    Confused, you're not alone! Fewer than HALF of us now know what the lockdown rules actually are, compared with 90% in March



    University College London researchers found that only 45 per cent of people in England understand the lockdown rules, compared with 90 per cent understanding the rules in March.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
    The vulnerable will always be vulnerable.
    If folks struggled with’ stay alert’ , just two words, then a list of advice or rule changes will be lost on them, as things open up and close down again.
    Maybe reduce the message to one word.
    Get off my land! Furious farmer reveals Boris Johnson 'climbed over his fence to set up 8ft tent WITHOUT permission and lit a dangerous campfire before fleeing Highlands holiday cottage'... leaving his MINDERS to clean up</</b>



    Prime Minister Boris Johnson's Great Escape descended into farce this afternoon after it emerged he had camped in a local sheep farmer's field without permission. Applecross Landowner Kenny Cameron (main picture) was left fuming today when he realised the PM and his fiancée Carrie Symonds had pitched their trendy eight foot bell tent on his land and had a camp fire without asking him first. He was also angered that Mr Johnson and Miss Symonds, 32, appeared to have been climbing over his 3ft high wire fence to get to the cream-coloured canvas tent, instead of using the gate into the field. Mr Cameron found a pair of wooden chairs from the cottage (top right) had been placed either side of the fence to form steps to clamber over it. The sheep farmer was also concerned that lighting a campfire had posed a potential risk due to the tinder dry conditions in recent weeks.He told MailOnline: 'Mr Johnson is meant to be leading the country and yet he is not setting a great example.'




    A pair of dining chairs 'used by Boris Johnson to hop over the 3ft wire fence' belonging to Applecross landowner Kenny Cameron. The chairs appear to have been taken from the kitchen of the nearby rental cottage, named The Old School House




    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8650799/Boriss-Great-Escape-PM-flees-tent-moves-Old-School-House-remote-peninsula.html
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,328
    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    Some folks are more worried than others regarding mask wearing.
    If they choose to wear them, let them.
    If the truth be known, then everybody would have a mask on all day, unless at home alone, or outside with no close contact with anybody.

    Eating with a mask on is a non starter. Unless of course, the meal gets blended in a glass and sucked through a straw via a tiny whole in ones mask, after the bung is carefully removed.

    Haysie, why don’t you try to come up with some conclusions yourself?

    This government is quite liberal imo, they are reluctant to force anybody to do anything.
    But that doesn’t mean there might come a time they force the issue. Think hospital capacity.

    Confused, you're not alone! Fewer than HALF of us now know what the lockdown rules actually are, compared with 90% in March



    University College London researchers found that only 45 per cent of people in England understand the lockdown rules, compared with 90 per cent understanding the rules in March.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
    The vulnerable will always be vulnerable.
    If folks struggled with’ stay alert’ , just two words, then a list of advice or rule changes will be lost on them, as things open up and close down again.
    Maybe reduce the message to one word.

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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,328
    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    Some folks are more worried than others regarding mask wearing.
    If they choose to wear them, let them.
    If the truth be known, then everybody would have a mask on all day, unless at home alone, or outside with no close contact with anybody.

    Eating with a mask on is a non starter. Unless of course, the meal gets blended in a glass and sucked through a straw via a tiny whole in ones mask, after the bung is carefully removed.

    Haysie, why don’t you try to come up with some conclusions yourself?

    This government is quite liberal imo, they are reluctant to force anybody to do anything.
    But that doesn’t mean there might come a time they force the issue. Think hospital capacity.

    Confused, you're not alone! Fewer than HALF of us now know what the lockdown rules actually are, compared with 90% in March



    University College London researchers found that only 45 per cent of people in England understand the lockdown rules, compared with 90 per cent understanding the rules in March.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
    The vulnerable will always be vulnerable.
    If folks struggled with’ stay alert’ , just two words, then a list of advice or rule changes will be lost on them, as things open up and close down again.
    Maybe reduce the message to one word.

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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,328
    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    Some folks are more worried than others regarding mask wearing.
    If they choose to wear them, let them.
    If the truth be known, then everybody would have a mask on all day, unless at home alone, or outside with no close contact with anybody.

    Eating with a mask on is a non starter. Unless of course, the meal gets blended in a glass and sucked through a straw via a tiny whole in ones mask, after the bung is carefully removed.

    Haysie, why don’t you try to come up with some conclusions yourself?

    This government is quite liberal imo, they are reluctant to force anybody to do anything.
    But that doesn’t mean there might come a time they force the issue. Think hospital capacity.

    Confused, you're not alone! Fewer than HALF of us now know what the lockdown rules actually are, compared with 90% in March



    University College London researchers found that only 45 per cent of people in England understand the lockdown rules, compared with 90 per cent understanding the rules in March.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
    The vulnerable will always be vulnerable.
    If folks struggled with’ stay alert’ , just two words, then a list of advice or rule changes will be lost on them, as things open up and close down again.
    Maybe reduce the message to one word.

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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,328
    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    Some folks are more worried than others regarding mask wearing.
    If they choose to wear them, let them.
    If the truth be known, then everybody would have a mask on all day, unless at home alone, or outside with no close contact with anybody.

    Eating with a mask on is a non starter. Unless of course, the meal gets blended in a glass and sucked through a straw via a tiny whole in ones mask, after the bung is carefully removed.

    Haysie, why don’t you try to come up with some conclusions yourself?

    This government is quite liberal imo, they are reluctant to force anybody to do anything.
    But that doesn’t mean there might come a time they force the issue. Think hospital capacity.

    Confused, you're not alone! Fewer than HALF of us now know what the lockdown rules actually are, compared with 90% in March



    University College London researchers found that only 45 per cent of people in England understand the lockdown rules, compared with 90 per cent understanding the rules in March.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
    The vulnerable will always be vulnerable.
    If folks struggled with’ stay alert’ , just two words, then a list of advice or rule changes will be lost on them, as things open up and close down again.
    Maybe reduce the message to one word.
    Education minister under fire after she shared snaps from her Alpine break as the exams fiasco unfolded - and Gavin Williamson 'liked' them while on his holiday days before the A-levels debacle



    The Mail on Sunday can reveal that as students worried over their futures, Gillian Keegan enjoyed hiking trips, mountain biking and dips in a mountain lake – and boasted about them on Instagram. She is pictured centre in an image posted on A-level results day and bottom left on a mountain bike on August 7 in Col De La Loze. She is pictured top right hiking on August 11 and bottom right in Lac D’Annecy on August 15. Astonishingly, beleaguered Education Secretary Gavin Williamson (inset left) found time to ‘like’ several of her posts. Mrs Keegan is Minister for Apprenticeships and Skills at the Department for Education and, crucially, is jointly responsible for post-16 education strategy. But as the exam fiasco reached its climax, she decided to remain in France – even as quarantine restrictions came into effect that would require her to self-isolate for 14 days on her eventual return to the UK. Students are seen protesting in London (inset right) over the fiasco.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,328
    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    Some folks are more worried than others regarding mask wearing.
    If they choose to wear them, let them.
    If the truth be known, then everybody would have a mask on all day, unless at home alone, or outside with no close contact with anybody.

    Eating with a mask on is a non starter. Unless of course, the meal gets blended in a glass and sucked through a straw via a tiny whole in ones mask, after the bung is carefully removed.

    Haysie, why don’t you try to come up with some conclusions yourself?

    This government is quite liberal imo, they are reluctant to force anybody to do anything.
    But that doesn’t mean there might come a time they force the issue. Think hospital capacity.

    Confused, you're not alone! Fewer than HALF of us now know what the lockdown rules actually are, compared with 90% in March



    University College London researchers found that only 45 per cent of people in England understand the lockdown rules, compared with 90 per cent understanding the rules in March.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
    The vulnerable will always be vulnerable.
    If folks struggled with’ stay alert’ , just two words, then a list of advice or rule changes will be lost on them, as things open up and close down again.
    Maybe reduce the message to one word.



    @Chilling will hate this, Tories battering the Government.






    ‘I’d be amazed if he survives’: top Tories turn on Gavin Williamson over exams fiasco



    The education secretary, Gavin Williamson, has lost the trust of his officials to such an extent that he can no longer serve effectively in the cabinet, one of the most senior Tory MPs said last night as pressure grew on Boris Johnson to sack him.

    Sir Bernard Jenkin, who chairs the powerful Commons liaison committee, which will grill the prime minister on 16 September, told the Observer that after Williamson’s humiliating U-turn over A-level and GCSE results, the secretary of state made a bad situation worse and caused a “complete breakdown” of trust in his department by seeking to blame officials for the crisis.

    With Tory anger over the episode at boiling point, another of the most senior and influential Conservatives on the backbenches said he would be “amazed” if Williamson survived for long, and that his reputation in the education world had been “irreparably damaged”. Williamson’s fate is expected to be discussed by the executive of the backbench 1922 committee of Tory MPs when parliament returns from the summer break on 1 September.



    So far Boris Johnson, who is expected to return from a holiday in Scotland this week, has said nothing publicly about the crisis. He has stood by Williamson after the education secretary at first defended the use of a controversial algorithm which led to huge numbers of A-level students receiving lower than expected grades, then ditched it altogether for both A-level and GCSE assessment.

    While the Guardian had reported that Ofqual’s algorithm would downgrade 39% of grades recommended by teachers, the scale of the disaster became apparent when results were issued and students reported bizarre and inexplicable results.

    The U-turn came after days of confusion and distress for millions of pupils, parents and teachers. While the climbdown came as a relief to many pupils, it unleashed fresh chaos across the education sector as universities and colleges were faced with more students who had gained the required grades than the number of places they could offer.



    Jenkin suggested that the implications of Williamson’s behaviour in blaming officials rather than taking the blame himself were serious for the wider working of government, and should not to be ignored. Williamson did apologise and eventually gave his backing to Ofqual but only after clear efforts had been made to shift blame on to others.

    Jenkin said: “The deal between ministers and officials is that officials give their best advice and ministers get to make decisions. This means that when something goes wrong ministers take the blame, and that is the reason why officials will be free to speak and give the best advice. But if officials feel they are going to be blamed in public they will not give the best advice to ministers.

    “In the Gavin Williamson case there has been briefing against the permanent secretary (at the Department for Education) and Ofqual. This is not likely to engage enthusiastic co-operation from the department and it permanently disables Gavin Williamson as secretary of state because there will have been a complete breakdown of trust.”

    The Williamson episode has fuelled a growing sense of resentment among many Tory MPs who feel their views are being ignored by a centralised operation run from No 10, and that ministers and officials with previous records of backing Johnson both in the Brexit referendum, and in his campaign for the leadership, are being protected however badly they perform.

    Another former minister said: “There are so many capable people on the backbenches, yet we hang on to Gavin Williamson. Look at Greg Clark and Jeremy Hunt. The parliamentary party is split. If you backed Vote Leave and backed Boris for leader, you are protected. The rest of us are not listened to. In fact, we are completely ignored.”

    Tory unrest over Williamson’s position has added to pre-existing frustration over why he held the education post in the first place, having never shown a particular interest in the issue.

    The cabinet post came as a reward for his help in ensuring Johnson secured enough MPs’ support to win the leadership. One Tory minister said that Williamson’s survival was “shocking”, before adding wearily: “But nothing surprises me.”

    Williamson has also been protected by the reluctance of Mark Spencer, the chief whip, to back a reshuffle, concluding that it could leave Johnson with more enemies than new friends.

    The positions of both Williamson and Ofqual officials will again be in the spotlight when parliament returns. Both will face a grilling by MPs on the education select committee, which is led by Robert Halfon, the independent-minded Tory MP who has been hugely critical of the exams fiasco. Whitehall insiders said that there was already a scramble taking place to examine notes, memos and emails, to decipher who knew what, and when.


    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/i-d-be-amazed-if-he-survives-top-tories-turn-on-gavin-williamson-over-exams-fiasco/ar-BB18h2w8
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    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    Some folks are more worried than others regarding mask wearing.
    If they choose to wear them, let them.
    If the truth be known, then everybody would have a mask on all day, unless at home alone, or outside with no close contact with anybody.

    Eating with a mask on is a non starter. Unless of course, the meal gets blended in a glass and sucked through a straw via a tiny whole in ones mask, after the bung is carefully removed.

    Haysie, why don’t you try to come up with some conclusions yourself?

    This government is quite liberal imo, they are reluctant to force anybody to do anything.
    But that doesn’t mean there might come a time they force the issue. Think hospital capacity.

    Confused, you're not alone! Fewer than HALF of us now know what the lockdown rules actually are, compared with 90% in March



    University College London researchers found that only 45 per cent of people in England understand the lockdown rules, compared with 90 per cent understanding the rules in March.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
    The vulnerable will always be vulnerable.
    If folks struggled with’ stay alert’ , just two words, then a list of advice or rule changes will be lost on them, as things open up and close down again.
    Maybe reduce the message to one word.

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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,328
    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    Some folks are more worried than others regarding mask wearing.
    If they choose to wear them, let them.
    If the truth be known, then everybody would have a mask on all day, unless at home alone, or outside with no close contact with anybody.

    Eating with a mask on is a non starter. Unless of course, the meal gets blended in a glass and sucked through a straw via a tiny whole in ones mask, after the bung is carefully removed.

    Haysie, why don’t you try to come up with some conclusions yourself?

    This government is quite liberal imo, they are reluctant to force anybody to do anything.
    But that doesn’t mean there might come a time they force the issue. Think hospital capacity.

    Confused, you're not alone! Fewer than HALF of us now know what the lockdown rules actually are, compared with 90% in March



    University College London researchers found that only 45 per cent of people in England understand the lockdown rules, compared with 90 per cent understanding the rules in March.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
    The vulnerable will always be vulnerable.
    If folks struggled with’ stay alert’ , just two words, then a list of advice or rule changes will be lost on them, as things open up and close down again.
    Maybe reduce the message to one word.

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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,328
    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    Some folks are more worried than others regarding mask wearing.
    If they choose to wear them, let them.
    If the truth be known, then everybody would have a mask on all day, unless at home alone, or outside with no close contact with anybody.

    Eating with a mask on is a non starter. Unless of course, the meal gets blended in a glass and sucked through a straw via a tiny whole in ones mask, after the bung is carefully removed.

    Haysie, why don’t you try to come up with some conclusions yourself?

    This government is quite liberal imo, they are reluctant to force anybody to do anything.
    But that doesn’t mean there might come a time they force the issue. Think hospital capacity.

    Confused, you're not alone! Fewer than HALF of us now know what the lockdown rules actually are, compared with 90% in March



    University College London researchers found that only 45 per cent of people in England understand the lockdown rules, compared with 90 per cent understanding the rules in March.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
    The vulnerable will always be vulnerable.
    If folks struggled with’ stay alert’ , just two words, then a list of advice or rule changes will be lost on them, as things open up and close down again.
    Maybe reduce the message to one word.

  • Options
    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,328
    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    Some folks are more worried than others regarding mask wearing.
    If they choose to wear them, let them.
    If the truth be known, then everybody would have a mask on all day, unless at home alone, or outside with no close contact with anybody.

    Eating with a mask on is a non starter. Unless of course, the meal gets blended in a glass and sucked through a straw via a tiny whole in ones mask, after the bung is carefully removed.

    Haysie, why don’t you try to come up with some conclusions yourself?

    This government is quite liberal imo, they are reluctant to force anybody to do anything.
    But that doesn’t mean there might come a time they force the issue. Think hospital capacity.

    Confused, you're not alone! Fewer than HALF of us now know what the lockdown rules actually are, compared with 90% in March



    University College London researchers found that only 45 per cent of people in England understand the lockdown rules, compared with 90 per cent understanding the rules in March.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
    The vulnerable will always be vulnerable.
    If folks struggled with’ stay alert’ , just two words, then a list of advice or rule changes will be lost on them, as things open up and close down again.
    Maybe reduce the message to one word.

  • Options
    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,328
    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    Some folks are more worried than others regarding mask wearing.
    If they choose to wear them, let them.
    If the truth be known, then everybody would have a mask on all day, unless at home alone, or outside with no close contact with anybody.

    Eating with a mask on is a non starter. Unless of course, the meal gets blended in a glass and sucked through a straw via a tiny whole in ones mask, after the bung is carefully removed.

    Haysie, why don’t you try to come up with some conclusions yourself?

    This government is quite liberal imo, they are reluctant to force anybody to do anything.
    But that doesn’t mean there might come a time they force the issue. Think hospital capacity.

    Confused, you're not alone! Fewer than HALF of us now know what the lockdown rules actually are, compared with 90% in March



    University College London researchers found that only 45 per cent of people in England understand the lockdown rules, compared with 90 per cent understanding the rules in March.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
    The vulnerable will always be vulnerable.
    If folks struggled with’ stay alert’ , just two words, then a list of advice or rule changes will be lost on them, as things open up and close down again.
    Maybe reduce the message to one word.

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