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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,667
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    RICHARD LITTLEJOHN: Heir to Churchill? No, Boris Johnson is the Second Coming of Warden Hodges


    RICHARD LITTLEJOHN: Who do you think you are kidding, Mr Johnson? Just after 4pm on Wednesday, Boris's carefully cultivated reputation as a Churchillian champion of British liberty crumbled like stale Stilton cheese. The great orator had been reduced to spouting bureaucratic gobbledygook, as he unleashed a Dad's Army of Warden Hodges (right)
    wannabes to enforce his draconian new restrictions on individual freedom.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

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    Why we’re losing the covid battle for Britain: An expert's view on the ineptitude, confusion and complacency surrounding testing - and how it’s like we’re taking on the Nazi Luftwaffe without radar


    A medical worker is seen taking a Covid-19 swab sample. The ‘rule of six’ represents a severe indictment of the Government because our dysfunctional, over-centralised and poorly led state machine has dismally failed to meet the challenge of
    Covid


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8723867/An-experts-view-ineptitude-confusion-complacency-surrounding-testing.html
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    Top lawyers slam Suella Braverman for wrecking UK’s reputation


    The attorney general, Suella Braverman, was on Saturday accused of sacrificing the UK’s reputation, sidelining legal advisers and bypassing the ministerial code during an extraordinary confrontation with some of the country’s top lawyers.

    During the annual general meeting of the Bar Council, the professional association for barristers, Braverman was asked how Britain could retain “a shred of credibility” in imploring other countries to follow international law after revealing its own willingness to breach agreements.

    The criticisms came after the government last week unveiled plans to give ministers sweeping powers to “disapply” part of the Brexit deal that Boris Johnson signed in January.

    Five QCs confronted the attorney general during Saturday’s meeting, telling her that a crime which broke the law in a “specific and limited way” – the phrase used by the
    Northern Ireland secretary, Brandon Lewis, when he announced the move – was still a crime.

    The attacks came as Boris Johnson faced a growing rebellion over the explosive proposals in the internal market bill, with more senior Tories suggesting they could not support provisions that ministers admit breach international law. Former prime ministers Sir John Major and Tony Blair jointly condemned the Brexit legislation as imperilling the Irish peace process, trade negotiations and the UK’s integrity.


    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/top-lawyers-slam-suella-braverman-for-wrecking-uk-s-reputation/ar-BB18Yn85?ocid=msedgntp
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    The Sunday Telegraph reports that Britain is preparing to opt out of major parts of European human rights laws, including the Human Rights Act, risking a further row with the European Union. The PM's aides and ministers are drawing up proposals, the paper adds. It comes as Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer accuses Mr Johnson of "reigniting old rows" over Brexit instead of focusing on the coronavirus response. Writing in The Sunday Telegraph, Sir Keir says: "Get on with Brexit and defeat the virus. That should be the Government's mantra."
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    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    Some folks are more worried than others regarding mask wearing.
    If they choose to wear them, let them.

    This is not optional.
    Not wearing masks in some settings is illegal.
    Although not required in some similar settings.
    The Government have threatened to impose fines, but haven't put forward a method of policing this.
    Masks protect the wearer, but also those around them, so it would be stupid to say they are optional.



    If the truth be known, then everybody would have a mask on all day, unless at home alone, or outside with no close contact with anybody.

    Not according to The Government.

    Eating with a mask on is a non starter. Unless of course, the meal gets blended in a glass and sucked through a straw via a tiny whole in ones mask, after the bung is carefully removed.

    This bit gets you an award for stating the blindingly obvious.

    Haysie, why don’t you try to come up with some conclusions yourself?

    Some are fairly easy.
    Sandwich shops could be stopped from allowing people to eat in.
    Allow takeaways to be bought by mask wearing members of the public.
    That would be logical, and clear.


    This government is quite liberal imo, they are reluctant to force anybody to do anything.
    But that doesn’t mean there might come a time they force the issue. Think hospital capacity.

    You still don't see it.
    I think some of the rules will increase the number of infections, rather than decrease them, putting hospital capacities at risk.
    Unless you have an alternative explanation for the recent outbreaks in caravan sites, pubs, factories etc.


    If you knew someone who lost a family member, through contracting the virus while eating in a sandwich shop.
    Who do you think they should blame?


    You don’t seem to be able to get your mind around the fact that the virus is here to stay, for the foreseeable.
    More transmissions, more deaths resulting.( highly likely to be the 1% or 2% death rate )
    A long drawn out herd immunity, although not announced, seems to be the line being taken by most countries. There doesn’t seem to be any other choice.
    Countries are just playing their health sectors.












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    chilling said:








    I’d just like to thank @Haysie for punching home repeatedly’ the vulnerable will always be vulnerable’, that message is of great importance. After a tricky start to the pandemic, we all know where we are now.
    ‘ Stay Alert ‘ must seem so easy to understand now,and was from the start for most, but there’s always a few. God bless them.
    With all the changes in guidance,now, and on the horizon,they will struggle, God bless them.
    I do think @Haysie will be p issing against the wind for 5years , a bit sad for a man of his age, life’s too short, but gl anyway.






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    Testing fiasco will end up re-closing schools, businesses and workplaces as Covid cases rise and winter colds return after Hancock announces priority for health and care workers and weeks' waits for the rest of us



    In a humiliating climbdown, the Health Secretary (pictured inset) said a 'priority list' would ensure environments such as care homes and hospitals would have enough. However, it comes at the expense of millions of others, with warnings issued that the UK was being put into 'lockdown by default' as a result of the shortage of tests (pictured main, a woman uses an umbrella to shelter from the sun as she waits for one outside a community centre in Bury). Hundreds of schools have been partially or completely closed because of coronavirus cases - both proven and suspected - leading to fears of a domino effect, resulting in parents not being able to go to work and the return of empty offices. More than one in 10 children were not in classes last Thursday, figures show, as the National Governance Association claims the growing number of pupils and staff awaiting tests (pictured top-right, queues in Birmingham and bottom-right an empty centre in Twickenham) could cripple parent confidence in getting their children back to school. It comes as teachers will today hold a protest outside the Department for Education, arguing that the lack of tests, and the inability of staff, pupils and parents to
    get to the front of the queue, is stopping schools returning to normal.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

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