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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,488
    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    Some folks are more worried than others regarding mask wearing.
    If they choose to wear them, let them.
    If the truth be known, then everybody would have a mask on all day, unless at home alone, or outside with no close contact with anybody.

    Eating with a mask on is a non starter. Unless of course, the meal gets blended in a glass and sucked through a straw via a tiny whole in ones mask, after the bung is carefully removed.

    Haysie, why don’t you try to come up with some conclusions yourself?

    This government is quite liberal imo, they are reluctant to force anybody to do anything.
    But that doesn’t mean there might come a time they force the issue. Think hospital capacity.

    Confused, you're not alone! Fewer than HALF of us now know what the lockdown rules actually are, compared with 90% in March



    University College London researchers found that only 45 per cent of people in England understand the lockdown rules, compared with 90 per cent understanding the rules in March.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
    The vulnerable will always be vulnerable.
    If folks struggled with’ stay alert’ , just two words, then a list of advice or rule changes will be lost on them, as things open up and close down again.
    Maybe reduce the message to one word.

  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,488
    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    Some folks are more worried than others regarding mask wearing.
    If they choose to wear them, let them.
    If the truth be known, then everybody would have a mask on all day, unless at home alone, or outside with no close contact with anybody.

    Eating with a mask on is a non starter. Unless of course, the meal gets blended in a glass and sucked through a straw via a tiny whole in ones mask, after the bung is carefully removed.

    Haysie, why don’t you try to come up with some conclusions yourself?

    This government is quite liberal imo, they are reluctant to force anybody to do anything.
    But that doesn’t mean there might come a time they force the issue. Think hospital capacity.

    Confused, you're not alone! Fewer than HALF of us now know what the lockdown rules actually are, compared with 90% in March



    University College London researchers found that only 45 per cent of people in England understand the lockdown rules, compared with 90 per cent understanding the rules in March.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
    The vulnerable will always be vulnerable.
    If folks struggled with’ stay alert’ , just two words, then a list of advice or rule changes will be lost on them, as things open up and close down again.
    Maybe reduce the message to one word.

  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,488
    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    Some folks are more worried than others regarding mask wearing.
    If they choose to wear them, let them.
    If the truth be known, then everybody would have a mask on all day, unless at home alone, or outside with no close contact with anybody.

    Eating with a mask on is a non starter. Unless of course, the meal gets blended in a glass and sucked through a straw via a tiny whole in ones mask, after the bung is carefully removed.

    Haysie, why don’t you try to come up with some conclusions yourself?

    This government is quite liberal imo, they are reluctant to force anybody to do anything.
    But that doesn’t mean there might come a time they force the issue. Think hospital capacity.

    Confused, you're not alone! Fewer than HALF of us now know what the lockdown rules actually are, compared with 90% in March



    University College London researchers found that only 45 per cent of people in England understand the lockdown rules, compared with 90 per cent understanding the rules in March.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
    The vulnerable will always be vulnerable.
    If folks struggled with’ stay alert’ , just two words, then a list of advice or rule changes will be lost on them, as things open up and close down again.
    Maybe reduce the message to one word.

  • madprofmadprof Member Posts: 3,461
    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    Some folks are more worried than others regarding mask wearing.
    If they choose to wear them, let them.
    If the truth be known, then everybody would have a mask on all day, unless at home alone, or outside with no close contact with anybody.

    Eating with a mask on is a non starter. Unless of course, the meal gets blended in a glass and sucked through a straw via a tiny whole in ones mask, after the bung is carefully removed.

    Haysie, why don’t you try to come up with some conclusions yourself?

    This government is quite liberal imo, they are reluctant to force anybody to do anything.
    But that doesn’t mean there might come a time they force the issue. Think hospital capacity.

    Confused, you're not alone! Fewer than HALF of us now know what the lockdown rules actually are, compared with 90% in March



    University College London researchers found that only 45 per cent of people in England understand the lockdown rules, compared with 90 per cent understanding the rules in March.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
    The vulnerable will always be vulnerable.
    If folks struggled with’ stay alert’ , just two words, then a list of advice or rule changes will be lost on them, as things open up and close down again.
    Maybe reduce the message to one word.
    Coronavirus: Matt Hancock to scrap Public Health England and set up new organisation for pandemic, reports say


    It added that Baroness Dido Harding, the Conservative peer and former TalkTalk telecoms boss who currently runs NHS Test and Trace, was being tipped to lead the organisation, despite criticism over the effectiveness of the UK’s contact tracing system in recent weeks.

    A report in The Times on Saturday also said that a merger of the public health body with NHS Test and Trace was under consideration.

    The apparent move comes after weeks of criticism of PHE from senior Tories, who have urged Boris Johnson to scrap the organisation.

    Sir Iain Duncan Smith, the former Conservative Party leader, said in July he would “abolish PHE tomorrow” if he were prime minister and claimed the agency was guilty of “arrogance laced with incompetence”.

    Sir Iain has apparently welcomed the news and said: “The one thing consistent about Public Health England is that almost everything it has touched has failed.”

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-matt-hancock-to-scrap-public-health-england-and-set-up-new-organisation-for-pandemic-reports-say/ar-BB180sFY?ocid=msedgdhp
    OMG

    How many more fukups can **** Harding oversee before someone cottons one she isn't very effective? Oh sorry forgot she's Boris's mate...that's ok then
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,488
    madprof said:

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    Some folks are more worried than others regarding mask wearing.
    If they choose to wear them, let them.
    If the truth be known, then everybody would have a mask on all day, unless at home alone, or outside with no close contact with anybody.

    Eating with a mask on is a non starter. Unless of course, the meal gets blended in a glass and sucked through a straw via a tiny whole in ones mask, after the bung is carefully removed.

    Haysie, why don’t you try to come up with some conclusions yourself?

    This government is quite liberal imo, they are reluctant to force anybody to do anything.
    But that doesn’t mean there might come a time they force the issue. Think hospital capacity.

    Confused, you're not alone! Fewer than HALF of us now know what the lockdown rules actually are, compared with 90% in March



    University College London researchers found that only 45 per cent of people in England understand the lockdown rules, compared with 90 per cent understanding the rules in March.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
    The vulnerable will always be vulnerable.
    If folks struggled with’ stay alert’ , just two words, then a list of advice or rule changes will be lost on them, as things open up and close down again.
    Maybe reduce the message to one word.
    Coronavirus: Matt Hancock to scrap Public Health England and set up new organisation for pandemic, reports say


    It added that Baroness Dido Harding, the Conservative peer and former TalkTalk telecoms boss who currently runs NHS Test and Trace, was being tipped to lead the organisation, despite criticism over the effectiveness of the UK’s contact tracing system in recent weeks.

    A report in The Times on Saturday also said that a merger of the public health body with NHS Test and Trace was under consideration.

    The apparent move comes after weeks of criticism of PHE from senior Tories, who have urged Boris Johnson to scrap the organisation.

    Sir Iain Duncan Smith, the former Conservative Party leader, said in July he would “abolish PHE tomorrow” if he were prime minister and claimed the agency was guilty of “arrogance laced with incompetence”.

    Sir Iain has apparently welcomed the news and said: “The one thing consistent about Public Health England is that almost everything it has touched has failed.”

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coronavirus/coronavirus-matt-hancock-to-scrap-public-health-england-and-set-up-new-organisation-for-pandemic-reports-say/ar-BB180sFY?ocid=msedgdhp
    OMG

    How many more fukups can **** Harding oversee before someone cottons one she isn't very effective? Oh sorry forgot she's Boris's mate...that's ok then
    World beating?
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,488
    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    Some folks are more worried than others regarding mask wearing.
    If they choose to wear them, let them.
    If the truth be known, then everybody would have a mask on all day, unless at home alone, or outside with no close contact with anybody.

    Eating with a mask on is a non starter. Unless of course, the meal gets blended in a glass and sucked through a straw via a tiny whole in ones mask, after the bung is carefully removed.

    Haysie, why don’t you try to come up with some conclusions yourself?

    This government is quite liberal imo, they are reluctant to force anybody to do anything.
    But that doesn’t mean there might come a time they force the issue. Think hospital capacity.

    Confused, you're not alone! Fewer than HALF of us now know what the lockdown rules actually are, compared with 90% in March



    University College London researchers found that only 45 per cent of people in England understand the lockdown rules, compared with 90 per cent understanding the rules in March.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
    The vulnerable will always be vulnerable.
    If folks struggled with’ stay alert’ , just two words, then a list of advice or rule changes will be lost on them, as things open up and close down again.
    Maybe reduce the message to one word.
    Ofqual blames government 'policy changes every 12 hours' for A-level exam chaos as Tory MPs pile pressure on Boris Johnson to end the shambles
    The A-level crisis is rumbling on ahead of the release of GCSE results this week
    Members of Ofqual's board have now come out against their grade algorithm
    Grammar school headteachers have also come out and criticised the algorithm
    Several Tory MPs, including Iain Duncan Smith, have called for it to be scrapped







    Professor Tina Isaacs, who sits on Ofqual's advisory group, warned that Thursday, when GCSE results are due to be released, could see 'another wave' of grades that do not reflect those given by teachers. 'Ofqual's role is to carry out Government policy. And when policy shifts every 12 to 24 hours, Ofqual then has to deal with it as best as it can,' she told BBC Breakfast. 'Hence the changes to the appeals process, which now Ofqual has taken off the board so that it can give as much consideration to it as possible given the timeframe.'

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8634321/Ofqal-board-members-want-ditch-level-algorithm.html
  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774
    edited August 2020
    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:














































    George Formby in race row : News 2008 : Chortle : The UK ...
    www.chortle.co.uk/.../6721/george_formby_in_race_row
    02/05/2008 · George Formby in race row Call to ban his 'offensive' songs A folk club has been accused of racism for playing comic songs by George Formby containing words such as ‘ka ffir’ and ‘ch ink’.

    Womaniser! Depressive! Junkie! By George! | The Independent
    www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/...
    Bret claims George Formby's case notes reveal that, when admitted to hospital for a month in 1949, the artist was "depressed and rundown". According to the biographer, Beryl told them to "`keep ...

    Dark side of George Formby: the marriage from ****, the ...
    www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/dark-side-george...
    10/06/2016 · George Formby: An Intimate ...

    And?
    What has somebodies personal problems got to do with anything?
    Some folks bring joy to this world, others bring misery..@HAYSIE.
    RIP George.
  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774
    I don’t see the relevance of my quote you’re highlighting, when a solution to the missed final exams is being sought.
    Any solution will definitely not be a 100% accurate one.
  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,488
    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:














































    George Formby in race row : News 2008 : Chortle : The UK ...
    www.chortle.co.uk/.../6721/george_formby_in_race_row
    02/05/2008 · George Formby in race row Call to ban his 'offensive' songs A folk club has been accused of racism for playing comic songs by George Formby containing words such as ‘ka ffir’ and ‘ch ink’.

    Womaniser! Depressive! Junkie! By George! | The Independent
    www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/...
    Bret claims George Formby's case notes reveal that, when admitted to hospital for a month in 1949, the artist was "depressed and rundown". According to the biographer, Beryl told them to "`keep ...

    Dark side of George Formby: the marriage from ****, the ...
    www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/dark-side-george...
    10/06/2016 · George Formby: An Intimate ...

    And?
    What has somebodies personal problems got to do with anything?
    Some folks bring joy to this world, others bring misery..@HAYSIE.
    RIP George.
    You brought him into it, for some reason best known to you.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,488
    chilling said:













    Yawn.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,488
    chilling said:

    I don’t see the relevance of my quote you’re highlighting, when a solution to the missed final exams is being sought.
    Any solution will definitely not be a 100% accurate one.

    What are you trying to say?

    Exams have always involved social distancing.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,488
    chilling said:













    Why would you post so many irrelevant comments.

    This thread is about the confusion created by The Government.

    They must be dizzy through the number of uturns.

    The latest A Level uturn occurred within 12 hours of the plan being published.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,488
    chilling said:

    I don’t see the relevance of my quote you’re highlighting, when a solution to the missed final exams is being sought.
    Any solution will definitely not be a 100% accurate one.


  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774
    edited August 2020
    HAYSIE said:

    stokefc said:

    Bravo chilling you've really got under Haysies skin on this tread *thunderous applause*

    You probably didnt notice, but every time I have posted on this thread lately I have picked
    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

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    George Formby in race row : News 2008 : Chortle : The UK ...
    www.chortle.co.uk/.../6721/george_formby_in_race_row
    02/05/2008 · George Formby in race row Call to ban his 'offensive' songs A folk club has been accused of racism for playing comic songs by George Formby containing words such as ‘ka ffir’ and ‘ch ink’.

    Womaniser! Depressive! Junkie! By George! | The Independent
    www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/...
    Bret claims George Formby's case notes reveal that, when admitted to hospital for a month in 1949, the artist was "depressed and rundown". According to the biographer, Beryl told them to "`keep ...

    Dark side of George Formby: the marriage from ****, the ...
    www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/dark-side-george...
    10/06/2016 · George Formby: An Intimate ...

    And?
    What has somebodies personal problems got to do with anything?
    Some folks bring joy to this world, others bring misery..@HAYSIE.
    RIP George.
    You brought him into it, for some reason best known to you.
    I thought that might go over your head, even though I purposely left a huge gap between the doomster and “ It’s turned out nice again”.
    Students protesting, then they get grades that they assumed they were going to achieve.

    Who will carry the can for those students awarded too higher grades that find Uni tougher than they thought, and might lack the work ethic required? The teachers or the government?
    Unprecedented times need different measures to be taken, and teachers assessments aren’t going to be 100% accurate. It keeps the teachers and students happy for now I suppose, time will tell if the assessments are correct.
    Ideally the exams could have been taken later than the norm, but the WHO advised on June5th about mask wearing. That’s about two weeks before the standard exams are due to finish,under normal circumstances. Taking them later would go against the reopening of schools strategy.
    That might confuse folks.😱
  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774
    “ The vulnerable will always be vulnerable.......” quote, is quite clearly referring to businesses and areas opening and closing,not students protesting about their grades.
    There were only ever two options, sit the exams or guess.
    Algorithms aren’t accurate at all. I’m surprised academia , including teachers , never realised that.
  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774
    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    I don’t see the relevance of my quote you’re highlighting, when a solution to the missed final exams is being sought.
    Any solution will definitely not be a 100% accurate one.

    What are you trying to say?

    Exams have always involved social distancing.
    I’ve covered that point. The jury is out on teenagers ability to spread the virus.
    Uni’s are supposed to have mask wearing bubbles, as some Uni’s have thousands of students, with a lot living on campus.
  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774
    HAYSIE said:

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    Yawn.
    So you find a principal examiners opinion a yawn?

    Standard for a narcissist, that has a world record in opening threads, and a world record for zilch replies.Zzzzzzzzzzzzz.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,488
    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    I don’t see the relevance of my quote you’re highlighting, when a solution to the missed final exams is being sought.
    Any solution will definitely not be a 100% accurate one.

    What are you trying to say?

    Exams have always involved social distancing.
    I’ve covered that point. The jury is out on teenagers ability to spread the virus.
    Uni’s are supposed to have mask wearing bubbles, as some Uni’s have thousands of students, with a lot living on campus.
    My point is, why didnt they go ahead with the exams.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,488
    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:













    Yawn.
    So you find a principal examiners opinion a yawn?

    Standard for a narcissist, that has a world record in opening threads, and a world record for zilch replies.Zzzzzzzzzzzzz.
    The point that I was again trying to make was lost on you.

    This thread is about the confusion caused by the Government.

    The comments you posted are irrelevant.

    What is relevant is that the Government stopped the exams taking place, and they decided on the system that would replace them. Then changed their minds every 10 minutes.

    I have watched Gavin Williamson getting battered on Sky News this morning.

    He was pathetic.

    They are now comparing this disaster with the Poll Tax.

    You just seem oblivious.

    They are getting battered from within their own party.

    You seem to make a habit of trying to defend the indefensible, but you ignore all the evidence.

    The papers seem unanimous.





















    A "humiliating climbdown" is how the "I" describes the government's decision to change the way A-level and GCSE grades are awarded.

    The Daily Express calls it "a victory for common sense".

    Online, the Independent says what happened was a fiasco of the Education Secretary Gavin Williamson's making. But it also says the decision calls into question Boris Johnson's judgement. U-turns, it says, are becoming all too common.

    The Financial Times says the climbdown is "one of a catalogue of government reversals in recent months".

    The Guardian prints a list of what it describes as "forced policy reversals" during the pandemic - among them, the contact tracing app, school meal vouchers and the reopening of schools.



    Writing in the Daily Mirror, the Labour leader, Sir Keir Starmer, says the Tories' handling of the exam results sums up their "incompetent" handling of Covid-19.

    The government, he argues, was too slow into lockdown, too slow to protect care homes and too slow to provide personal protective equipment for key workers. "This is no way to run a country", he concludes.

    In the Daily Telegraph the former Conservative leader William Hague is more sympathetic. He argues everyone in government has made mistakes, but admits there was a danger that a failure to question assumptions had almost led to another poll tax moment for his party.

    The Times says universities have responded with fury at being left to sort out the "mess" created by the government's decision.

    The Sun says admissions tutors face "pandemonium".

    The Belfast Telegraph reports that Queen's University in the city is questioning how extra student places will be funded if substantial numbers are given improved A-level grades.

    Huffpost UK warns universities - which are already at capacity with accepted places - could have to scrap offers and re-run the entire offer and clearing system.


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-53815080
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