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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,651
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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,651
    edited October 2020
    chilling said:

    ‘ P issing against the wind’, sounds like a title for a ditty, in the style of........image

    Some users of NHS tracing app incorrectly given COVID-19 exposure alerts

    Video: Health Secretary Matt Hancock responds to people who are reporting not being able to download the NHS Test and Trace app due to phone software requirements (Birmingham Mail)


    People who downloaded the COVID-19 app in England and Wales told Sky News they had received a notification which said: "Someone you were near reported having COVID-19."

    Yet, when they clicked on the message, they found no information explaining whether they should self-isolate.

    The Department of Health and Social Care said the notification was a "default message" sent by Google and Apple - the makers of the app's technology - and should be ignored.




    But the false alarms - which appeared to be only in England and Wales, despite the widespread use of contact tracing technology in countries across the world - had already caused confusion, forcing at least one user into avoidable self-isolation.

    "I'm now self-isolating, just to be on the safe side... I don't know whether it's correct or not," Maurice Leaver said. He received the message on Sunday, the day after downloading the app, and had been unable to clarify the situation with contact tracers.

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coronavirus/some-users-of-nhs-tracing-app-incorrectly-given-covid-19-exposure-alerts/ar-BB19AjSk?ocid=msedgntp
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,651
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    Meet Boris, the dummy: Richard Caring's Mayfair restaurant welcomes back diners with curfew-busting express menu and a jab at the PM - after the businessman blasted new Covid rules


    34 Mayfair welcomed Londoners back today, debuting a menu featuring dishes from a new rotisserie grill, with lockdown-friendly opening hours. However, perhaps the most noteworthy part of the reopening are two figures of Boris Johnson waving Unions Jacks positioned outside the restaurant, recreating his infamous zip wire stunt. The dig comes after Mr Caring blasted the government's decision to implement the curfew and criticised the PM's handling of the coronavirus pandemic.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
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    Boris Johnson facing new Tory 'nanny state' backbench rebellion as MPs 'plot to force vote on scrapping the 10pm pubs curfew' as minister Robert Jenrick blames drinkers for not following social distancing rules


    Libertarian MPs are said to be considering whether they can force a Parliamentary vote on the new law brought in by the Prime Minister last week. The move is putting huge pressure on hospitality businesses already on the brink of collapse amid questions over whether it is effective at reducing the spread of Covid-19. Health Secretary Matt Hancock was hit with a barrage of criticism yesterday in the Commons, with MP Philip Davies (bottom left) branding the curfew 'socialist' and warning it was destroying the economy. But Communities Secretary Robert Jenrick today (top left) insisted that the curfew was needed and laid the blame at people enjoying an evening in pubs not following the rules.
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,651
    edited October 2020
    A number of commentators write about Tory frustrations with Boris Johnson's premiership.

    Dan Hodges, in the Mail on Sunday, says his backbenchers have moved from despair to resignation - and given up waiting for the return of "the real Boris".

    Instead, they have decided the time has come to move around and beyond him, he says.

    Julie Burchill - who voted Conservative for the first time last December - writes in the Sunday Telegraph that she never expected Mr Johnson to have a moral compass.

    "But," she adds, "I did expect him to possess a political sat nav rather than appear to be a Sunday driver at the wheel of an out-of-control juggernaut."

    In the Observer, Andrew Rawnsley says that like many voters, Tory MPs are now utterly fatigued by serial blunders, gaffes and zig-zags.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-54405341
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    SIR GRAHAM BRADY: The public need to feel they've got a say over Covid rules - waving a stick at them won't work


    SIR GRAHAM BRADY: Boris Johnson needed sweeping powers at the start of the Covid emergency in March, but now Parliament needs to be involved in future decisions.
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,651
    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    Some folks are more worried than others regarding mask wearing.
    If they choose to wear them, let them.
    If the truth be known, then everybody would have a mask on all day, unless at home alone, or outside with no close contact with anybody.

    Eating with a mask on is a non starter. Unless of course, the meal gets blended in a glass and sucked through a straw via a tiny whole in ones mask, after the bung is

    carefully removed.

    Haysie, why don’t you try to come up with some conclusions yourself?

    This government is quite liberal imo, they are reluctant to force anybody to do anything.
    But that doesn’t mean there might come a time they force the issue. Think hospital capacity.

    Confused, you're not alone! Fewer than HALF of us now know what the lockdown rules actually are, compared with 90% in March



    University College London researchers found that only 45 per cent of people in England understand the lockdown rules, compared with 90 per cent understanding the rules in March.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
    The vulnerable will always be vulnerable.
    If folks struggled with’ stay alert’ , just two words, then a list of advice or rule changes will be lost on them, as things open up and close down again.
    Maybe reduce the message to one word.





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    Fury as tens of thousands of Britons are 'put at risk' by glitch that saw 16,000 new cases missed from computer system in a week and 'their contacts NOT told for days' - as official figures suddenly jump 22,961 in 24 hours, with 33 more deaths


    Tens of thousands of Britons have been 'put at risk' by a computer glitch that meant thousands of new cases were missed from the government's coronavirus infection figures and were delayed in being passed on to NHS Track and Trace, according to reports. Public Health England last night admitted nearly 16,000 cases (pictured left: A graph showing the number of Covid-19 cases in the UK) had been missed off its dashboard system in the space of a week – most of them in the past few days. According to The Telegraph, the issue left health officials desperately trying to hunt down contacts of the positive cases - some of which date back 10 days - in the early hours of Sunday morning. Tens of thousands of close contacts are only being reached now, reports the paper, meaning that many of them could have been unknowingly carrying the virus, when they should have been told to self-isolate. It comes as a furious row last night erupted over the UK’s (pictured top right: Shoppers in masks walk through London) daily Covid figures, as the country recorded 22,961 new coronavirus infections following the 'technical glitch' . There were also 33 deaths (pictured bottom right: A graph showing the number of Covid-19 deaths) recorded as part of yesterday’s figures.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
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    The Telegraph says Mr Johnson wants to show that his government is planning for the UK's future beyond coronavirus as he tries to shake off the image of a prime minister trapped by events.

    On that note, the Times reports that contact tracers' phone lines crashed as they scrambled to reach tens of thousands of potentially infectious people missed because of an IT blunder.

    The paper says tracers reported conversations disconnecting mid-call and then being frozen out of the software for up to half an hour as they tried to call back.

    A computing malfunction is said to have caused phone calls to fail.

    According to the Telegraph, the government's 22:00 closure of pubs and restaurants in England could be thrown out in a Commons vote tomorrow after it emerged that dozens of Tory MPs are prepared to vote against it.

    The paper says rebel Conservatives have been emboldened by comments from Chancellor Rishi Sunak questioning the wisdom of the measure.

    And the Times reports that senior Conservative MPs are considering lodging a protest vote in the Commons today over the "rule of six" in England.

    According to the paper, they believe it should be expanded to eight people and that children should not be included in the tally. But - the paper adds - the revolt is likely to be symbolic as Labour will back the current restriction.

    The computer problem that led to a delay in tracing the contacts of nearly 16,000 people with coronavirus features on many of the front pages.

    A world-beating fiasco is how the Metro describes it.

    "Another day, another government coronavirus blunder", the Daily Mirror sighs.

    The paper says test and trace errors that may have been understandable at the start of the pandemic in March are unforgivable in October.

    For the Express, the debacle makes a mockery of the test and trace system.

    The Guardian asks how many people will be infected by the virus who might otherwise have escaped it, and how ill they will become as a result, remains to be seen.

    The Sun criticises Public Health England for what it calls its routine incompetence.

    What an unmitigated disaster it has been in our country's hour of need, the paper declares.

    The Times thinks the problems that have dogged the system stem from its centralised nature, compounded by the decision to outsource vital functions to the private sector.

    Elsewhere in the paper, there's news of technical glitches at the virtual Conservative Party conference.

    It says some of the UK's most senior industry figures - who had paid for accreditation to the conference - were expecting to take part in an exclusive online question-and-answer session with the prime minister and the chancellor.

    But they were left staring at a buffering screen for almost an hour before it started.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-54428082
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