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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,226
    Essexphil said:

    Those last 2 articles show the post-Brexit world in which we now live.

    The lorry chaos one? Nonsense. Loads of people are mentioning it. It's just that it has little to do with Brexit. And lots to do with P&O and this Government failing to properly invest in new infrastructure.

    The disadvantaged regions one? Far more relevant. But, sadly, it was always going to be the people who were most in favour of Brexit who were going to come out worst. But-the fault is nothing to do with Brexit. And everything to do with this Government lying to us. Again.

    I'd like to think that I would trust the British Government about as much as I trust the EU. Which is not a lot.

    A low bar-but 1 that this Government manages to get under.

    The promised bonfire of EU Laws hasnt yet materialised.
    Or has the plan changed?
    It seems we are now intending to fit speed limiters to all new cars from this year.
    Apparently this is to comply with EU Law.
    So what happened the controls that we were supposed to be taking back?
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    Tory Boy Andrew Pierce Doesn't Understand Brexit


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLbCjA8foho
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    edited April 2022
    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    Those last 2 articles show the post-Brexit world in which we now live.

    The lorry chaos one? Nonsense. Loads of people are mentioning it. It's just that it has little to do with Brexit. And lots to do with P&O and this Government failing to properly invest in new infrastructure.

    The disadvantaged regions one? Far more relevant. But, sadly, it was always going to be the people who were most in favour of Brexit who were going to come out worst. But-the fault is nothing to do with Brexit. And everything to do with this Government lying to us. Again.

    I'd like to think that I would trust the British Government about as much as I trust the EU. Which is not a lot.

    A low bar-but 1 that this Government manages to get under.

    Brexit: What's the Northern Ireland Protocol?






    What has the EU proposed?


    The EU says a renegotiation of the text of the protocol is out of the question, but has set out proposals, which include:

    An 80% reduction in checks on food products arriving in Northern Ireland, as well as halving the amount of paperwork involved
    Reducing the customs information firms need to provide
    Passing legislation to allow the trade in medicines between GB and Northern Ireland to continue
    Relaxing rules so chilled meats, such as sausages, could still be sent across the Irish Sea
    In return, the EU wants extra safeguards to prevent products from Great Britain crossing into the Republic of Ireland.




    Why is the Northern Ireland Protocol necessary?
    The border is a sensitive issue because of the history of Northern Ireland and the agreements made to bring peace, which included the removal of visible signs of the border.

    The fear is that if any infrastructure were to be installed, such as cameras or border posts, it could become a target and lead to political instability.

    During negotiations, all sides agreed that protecting the 1998 Northern Ireland peace deal (the Good Friday Agreement) was an absolute priority.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-53724381
    Got to love politicians.

    Just when you think no-one could possibly match the stupidity of our Government, the EU does exactly that. Only a politician could say both:-

    1. We are not willing to renegotiate the NI protocol; and
    2. These are our proposals to show exactly where we are willing to renegotiate the NI protocol

    And genuinely expect anyone to believe both of these statements.
    And our side keep claiming that the EU wont move an inch, which is patently untrue.
    Also they have threatened the EU with the triggering of Article 16 for around 9 months, with no action.
    Despite the fact that the EU have bent over backwards to help, they still feel it necessary to continue to unilaterally extend grace periods, rather than implement the agreement they signed.
    Not sure if we are now admitting to the Irish Sea border or not.
    It seems that we could appreciate that to make the whole thing work, NI would have to be left in the SM/CU, yet we cant seem to accept that this means they are subject to SM rules.
    The DUP are insisting that the border has to go, so where could it move to?
    Many people were criticising the EU over the sausages, now some of the same people are criticising them for being sensible, and changing their minds over the same sausages.
    Agree with most of that.

    The exception is "the EU have bent over backwards to help." No, they haven't. Doing a good job of pretending, but they have similarly stupid red lines. They are not worse than the UK-they are just not better.

    Meanwhile, Northern Ireland becomes increasingly polarised. And not in a good way. The more moderate Parties are being squeezed as the DUP and Sinn Fein seek to take over control. And the UK + EU fuel the fires while fighting their own little control issues.
    Boris Johnson hints at further delay of post-Brexit EU import checks




    He also indicated he had not abandoned hope that the Irish Sea border checks could, in time, be moved to the Northern Ireland border with the Republic of Ireland, something that was rejected during the four years of negotiations over the UK’s divorce from the EU.

    The cliff-edge approach left exporters of fish and other fresh food in chaos with a lack of customs agents and veterinary staff to certify whether the produce complied with EU standards.

    But in the UK, post-Brexit checks on fresh food were not implemented for imports, being pushed back in 2020 and on two occasions in 2021.

    Under the current border plan, physical checks on meat were due to start on 1 July, dairy on 1 September and all remaining foods including fish and composite foods subject to checks from 1 November.

    The government confirmed this timetable was “under careful review” amid concerns about the impact on household supplies.


    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brexit/boris-johnson-hints-at-further-delay-of-post-brexit-eu-import-checks/ar-AAWsGpl?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=c1521e23b141428ea5b8531cf3b41ad9
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,226
    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    Those last 2 articles show the post-Brexit world in which we now live.

    The lorry chaos one? Nonsense. Loads of people are mentioning it. It's just that it has little to do with Brexit. And lots to do with P&O and this Government failing to properly invest in new infrastructure.

    The disadvantaged regions one? Far more relevant. But, sadly, it was always going to be the people who were most in favour of Brexit who were going to come out worst. But-the fault is nothing to do with Brexit. And everything to do with this Government lying to us. Again.

    I'd like to think that I would trust the British Government about as much as I trust the EU. Which is not a lot.

    A low bar-but 1 that this Government manages to get under.

    Brexit: What's the Northern Ireland Protocol?






    What has the EU proposed?


    The EU says a renegotiation of the text of the protocol is out of the question, but has set out proposals, which include:

    An 80% reduction in checks on food products arriving in Northern Ireland, as well as halving the amount of paperwork involved
    Reducing the customs information firms need to provide
    Passing legislation to allow the trade in medicines between GB and Northern Ireland to continue
    Relaxing rules so chilled meats, such as sausages, could still be sent across the Irish Sea
    In return, the EU wants extra safeguards to prevent products from Great Britain crossing into the Republic of Ireland.




    Why is the Northern Ireland Protocol necessary?
    The border is a sensitive issue because of the history of Northern Ireland and the agreements made to bring peace, which included the removal of visible signs of the border.

    The fear is that if any infrastructure were to be installed, such as cameras or border posts, it could become a target and lead to political instability.

    During negotiations, all sides agreed that protecting the 1998 Northern Ireland peace deal (the Good Friday Agreement) was an absolute priority.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-53724381
    Got to love politicians.

    Just when you think no-one could possibly match the stupidity of our Government, the EU does exactly that. Only a politician could say both:-

    1. We are not willing to renegotiate the NI protocol; and
    2. These are our proposals to show exactly where we are willing to renegotiate the NI protocol

    And genuinely expect anyone to believe both of these statements.
    And our side keep claiming that the EU wont move an inch, which is patently untrue.
    Also they have threatened the EU with the triggering of Article 16 for around 9 months, with no action.
    Despite the fact that the EU have bent over backwards to help, they still feel it necessary to continue to unilaterally extend grace periods, rather than implement the agreement they signed.
    Not sure if we are now admitting to the Irish Sea border or not.
    It seems that we could appreciate that to make the whole thing work, NI would have to be left in the SM/CU, yet we cant seem to accept that this means they are subject to SM rules.
    The DUP are insisting that the border has to go, so where could it move to?
    Many people were criticising the EU over the sausages, now some of the same people are criticising them for being sensible, and changing their minds over the same sausages.
    Agree with most of that.

    The exception is "the EU have bent over backwards to help." No, they haven't. Doing a good job of pretending, but they have similarly stupid red lines. They are not worse than the UK-they are just not better.

    Meanwhile, Northern Ireland becomes increasingly polarised. And not in a good way. The more moderate Parties are being squeezed as the DUP and Sinn Fein seek to take over control. And the UK + EU fuel the fires while fighting their own little control issues.
    Northern Ireland protocol: Boris Johnson set to use Queen’s Speech to pick Brexit fight with EU


    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/northern-ireland-protocol-boris-johnson-set-to-use-queen-s-speech-to-pick-brexit-fight-with-eu/ar-AAWtrKa?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=fd8ed263f9c54a3cb447a1b8bd9453c5
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,226
    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    Those last 2 articles show the post-Brexit world in which we now live.

    The lorry chaos one? Nonsense. Loads of people are mentioning it. It's just that it has little to do with Brexit. And lots to do with P&O and this Government failing to properly invest in new infrastructure.

    The disadvantaged regions one? Far more relevant. But, sadly, it was always going to be the people who were most in favour of Brexit who were going to come out worst. But-the fault is nothing to do with Brexit. And everything to do with this Government lying to us. Again.

    I'd like to think that I would trust the British Government about as much as I trust the EU. Which is not a lot.

    A low bar-but 1 that this Government manages to get under.

    Brexit: What's the Northern Ireland Protocol?






    What has the EU proposed?


    The EU says a renegotiation of the text of the protocol is out of the question, but has set out proposals, which include:

    An 80% reduction in checks on food products arriving in Northern Ireland, as well as halving the amount of paperwork involved
    Reducing the customs information firms need to provide
    Passing legislation to allow the trade in medicines between GB and Northern Ireland to continue
    Relaxing rules so chilled meats, such as sausages, could still be sent across the Irish Sea
    In return, the EU wants extra safeguards to prevent products from Great Britain crossing into the Republic of Ireland.




    Why is the Northern Ireland Protocol necessary?
    The border is a sensitive issue because of the history of Northern Ireland and the agreements made to bring peace, which included the removal of visible signs of the border.

    The fear is that if any infrastructure were to be installed, such as cameras or border posts, it could become a target and lead to political instability.

    During negotiations, all sides agreed that protecting the 1998 Northern Ireland peace deal (the Good Friday Agreement) was an absolute priority.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-53724381
    Got to love politicians.

    Just when you think no-one could possibly match the stupidity of our Government, the EU does exactly that. Only a politician could say both:-

    1. We are not willing to renegotiate the NI protocol; and
    2. These are our proposals to show exactly where we are willing to renegotiate the NI protocol

    And genuinely expect anyone to believe both of these statements.
    And our side keep claiming that the EU wont move an inch, which is patently untrue.
    Also they have threatened the EU with the triggering of Article 16 for around 9 months, with no action.
    Despite the fact that the EU have bent over backwards to help, they still feel it necessary to continue to unilaterally extend grace periods, rather than implement the agreement they signed.
    Not sure if we are now admitting to the Irish Sea border or not.
    It seems that we could appreciate that to make the whole thing work, NI would have to be left in the SM/CU, yet we cant seem to accept that this means they are subject to SM rules.
    The DUP are insisting that the border has to go, so where could it move to?
    Many people were criticising the EU over the sausages, now some of the same people are criticising them for being sensible, and changing their minds over the same sausages.
    Agree with most of that.

    The exception is "the EU have bent over backwards to help." No, they haven't. Doing a good job of pretending, but they have similarly stupid red lines. They are not worse than the UK-they are just not better.

    Meanwhile, Northern Ireland becomes increasingly polarised. And not in a good way. The more moderate Parties are being squeezed as the DUP and Sinn Fein seek to take over control. And the UK + EU fuel the fires while fighting their own little control issues.
    Brexit warning: Boris fires shot at EU over Irish border farce as he vows to take action


    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/brexit-warning-boris-fires-shot-at-eu-over-irish-border-farce-as-he-vows-to-take-action/ar-AAWugTL?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=fd8ed263f9c54a3cb447a1b8bd9453c5
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    EU says Brexit deal is ‘legal obligation which binds UK’ after Jacob Rees-Mogg comments


    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/eu-says-brexit-deal-legal-132000238.html
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    Brexit may spark brain drain as EU threatens research funding


    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/brexit-may-spark-brain-drain-165015932.html
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    Sinn Fein calls on Dublin to plan for constitutional change


    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/sinn-fein-calls-dublin-plan-173500782.html
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    Brexit: Cross-border permits will damage industry, say NI Tourism


    Tourism leaders have warned that UK government proposals to require international travellers to apply for a permit to cross the Irish border will damage the industry.

    They were announced last year as part of the Nationality and Borders Bill.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-61162338
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    More foreign nationals to arrive in UK this year than before Brexit



    More foreign nationals will come to the UK this year than before Brexit, an analysis suggests.

    The number of non-EU workers, students and family relatives granted visas has already increased by more than 50 per cent to more than 840,000 since the UK voted to leave the EU in 2016.

    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/more-foreign-nationals-arrive-uk-192108977.html
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    Brexit was a good idea if it means more Indians can come to the UK


    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/brexit-good-idea-means-more-040100616.html
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    Northern Ireland protocol: Boris Johnson set to use Queen’s Speech to pick Brexit fight with EU


    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/boris-johnson-set-queen-speech-085110785.html
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