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    lucy4lucy4 Member Posts: 7,041
    John Barnes sums it all up perfectly.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-56829809
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    lucy4lucy4 Member Posts: 7,041
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    Red_KingRed_King Member Posts: 2,850
    Seems remarkably quiet on the other Lesser Spotted Power Grab (UCL).
    The one this farcical smokescreen overshadowed, coincidently one day before.

    How can we divert attention from the BIG 5 leagues commandeering automatic places,
    effectively a closed shop with guaranteed revenue stream, in the revamped champions League.
    Smaller nations CHAMPIONS will face multiple qualifying rounds just to get on the bottom rung,
    new revised 10 match 1st round format, thereby reducing their chances to climb the rankings.
    hmmm, set up a Non-event Super League to cause a **** storm, then cancel it, job done.

    Not much condemnation on this Fair distribution of revenue, especially from those who will benefit.
    The rich get richer simply by denying the smaller nations places on the gravy train.
    If UEFA don't impose fines/bans on the Super clubs, can it be assumed they had prior knowledge?

    UEFA extract,
    "Qualification for the UEFA Champions League will continue to be open and earned through a team’s performance in domestic competitions.

    One of the additional places will go to the club ranked third in the championship of the association in fifth position in the UEFA national association ranking."

    How can the BIG 5 Leagues not occupy the top 5 rankings with all their automatic qualifiers.
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    lucy4lucy4 Member Posts: 7,041
    The ESL ain't going away any time soon.


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    Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 160,573

    @lucy4


    Any idea what Clubs have proposed that?
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    lucy4lucy4 Member Posts: 7,041
    Tikay10 said:


    @lucy4


    Any idea what Clubs have proposed that?

    EUROPEAN SUPER LEAGUE rebels have drafted a new plan - for a 40-club breakaway.

    Despite the bail-out by the six Premier League clubs involved, Real Madrid, Barcelona and Juventus are still refusing to give up on their plot.

    And their latest plan, being sent to stakeholders across Europe, shows a desperate effort to restore life to the fading scheme.

    Under the draft, Super League insists it will not be a ‘breakaway’ or even a closed shop.

    Instead, it envisages two leagues of 20 clubs.

    Clubs that qualify for the competition would be ‘shareholders’ for the year, following the model of the Prem and other major leagues and liable to relegation out of it.

    In a sop to those who criticised the clubs for their greed in joining the initial £4.6bn venture, Super League is now claiming it is in favour of tight cost controls and accusing Uefa and President Aleksander Ceferin of abandoning efforts to make clubs live within their means by the planned changes to its Financial Fair Play regulations.

    They also promise to pay for away fans’ travel costs.
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    lucy4lucy4 Member Posts: 7,041
    Barca chief Laporta: 'European Super League could start in 2025'

    Barcelona president Joan Laporta said Thursday he believes a European Super League could be up and running from 2025 if a key court ruling goes in the project's favour.

    A suit alleging football governing bodies UEFA and FIFA had abused their power when they threatened to expel clubs or players who joined a proposed Super League is awaiting a verdict from the European Court of Justice.

    European football was rocked in 2021 by an attempt by 12 clubs to set up a Super League, but after a backlash by fans and governments, most pulled out of the project.

    Barcelona, Real Madrid and Juventus have continued to insist on a potential Super League, despite disapproval from various quarters.

    "In March or April we will have the verdict from the European Court of Justice," Laporta told radio station Cadena SER.

    "The Super League will be an open competition. I would not have entered in this project if the competition was not open."

    Laporta said he wanted clubs to have the capability of governing themselves and that UEFA could also have a seat at the table.

    "If the resolution is favourable, I think the Super League (could start) in 2025," he added.

    Real Madrid president Florentino Perez, who presented the initial Super League project in 2021, said in October last year that football was "sick" and that a European Super League could revive it.

    The "big six" Premier League clubs - Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United and Tottenham - were part of the initial 12 clubs that proposed the breakaway project.

    "I think at first we will make a European competition that competes with the Premier League," continued Laporta.

    Laporta also predicted that it would "end up with a fusion down the line" between the potential European Super League and the Premier League.
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    lucy4lucy4 Member Posts: 7,041
    New plans revealed as the latest on the European Super League explained.

    Fresh plans for a European Super League, featuring 80 teams and all places based on merit, are being suggested by A22′s chief executive, Bernd Reichart.

    A22 Sports management is in charge of promoting the competition, which was met with significant backlash when it was initially suggested in 2021 due to it’s “founding members” not having the ability to be out of the competition even if performing poorly.

    Now, a new format is being suggested, which would include up to 80 teams and would see each side guaranteed a minimum of 14 games, rather than the 6 that the Champions League currently offers (for those that finish bottom in the group stages].

    It would replace the UEFA competition rather than the domestic leagues, with the Guardian reporting that it would take the shape of ”an open competition, with qualification via performance at national level and all its teams competing in their domestic leagues”.

    It follows fears that the gap between the Premier League and other leagues around Europe has already become insurmountable, with the English top flight outspending the rest of Europe combined twice over in January, and players from the likes of Real Madrid, AS Roma and Atletico Madrid joining relegation-threatened sides in the Premier League.

    “The foundations of European football are in danger of collapsing”, Reichart wrote. “It’s time for a change. It is the clubs that bear the entrepreneurial risk in football. But when important decisions are at stake, they are too often forced to sit idly by on the sidelines as the sporting and financial foundations crumble around them.”

    “Our talks have also made it clear that clubs often find it impossible to speak out publicly against a system that uses the threat of sanctions to thwart opposition. Our dialogue was open, honest, constructive and resulted in clear ideas about what changes are needed and how they could be implemented. There is a lot to do and we will continue our dialogue.”

    There will be financial restrictions too, as there have been under UEFA. “Club spending must be based solely on the funds generated and not on competitively distorting capital injections,” Reichart added. In a week that has seen Manchester City referred to an independent committee amid accusations of doing just that, the Super League could be more popular this time around, but could still take years to come to fruition.

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    EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,021
    This looks like a rather more subtle and cunning plan.

    Fans are far more attached to their Domestic Leagues than to European competition. Compare/contrast the outrage in relation to the last attempted grab with the near-silence that greeted the Champions League replacing the old European competitions.

    Part of me wonders whether this is being designed to exclude English teams, and provide TV funding that is comparable to the EPL. Because if no-one knows how to spell "centre" and it is based on EU law, then not primarily designed with us in mind.

    The economies of the leagues are very different. The difference between the budgets of (say) Real Madrid and Rayo Vallecano is massively bigger than any in the EPL. It makes more (economic, not football) sense for various European leagues to funnel rather more money to fewer clubs.

    Still think it will fail.
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    TheEdge949TheEdge949 Member Posts: 5,186
    One day, the money WILL run out and then we can look forward to the big derbies such as Ilkeston V Heanor, Hanley Town V Abbey Hulton United or maybe Thurrock V Grays.

    It will be a shame but then at least I can go and watch Superleague Rugby League instead.
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