Im not opted in, i have played far more games than this, so no idea what this represents for me.
This is not a 'rig' claim... read the post again. If you want to have a go on answering how he only finishes 1st in multis, but rarely plays them, is smashing £2 games but doesnt go up a level.....
What i do know at this level is we get calls like this on the flop, so to have a graph like is impossible.....
Its that nut straight flop again..... but the call on the flop?? The result on river????
I have to correct this as it's unfair to let it stand. You have misread Sharkscope, though I'm quite sure it was unintentional, not deliberate.
"Nobody runs that well to win every MTT when they cash, never finishing 4th, 6th etc. Nobody can max raise every time their opponent bluffs, but fold every time they are strong and never be wrong. I have never seen someone crushing games to this extent, that dont move up levels. I have never seen someone play MTT once in a blue moon and when they cash its always 1st (hover on the '£' signs on the graph guys, its quite a read)."
To see the results of Helissio in MTT's you need to use the filter "SCHEDULED". Scheduled is MTT's ONLY. Of his 8,810 games shown in "ALL GAMES", just 621 are MTT's.
Of those 621 MTT's, he made the FT 132 times.
Of those 132 FT's;
His finishing positions?
1st 37 times
2nd 22 times
3rd 23 times
4th 19 times
5th 15 times
6th 16 times
These are what Sharkscope say, not me, and you or anyone else can check those simply by selecting "Scheduled > Graphs > Final Table Finishing Positions".
So these two statements you wrote are completely false & very unfair.
"Nobody runs that well to win every MTT when they cash, never finishing 4th, 6th etc"
"I have never seen someone play MTT once in a blue moon and when they cash its always 1st"
So he won 37 MTT's out of 621 played.
As I noted at the start, I'm sure this was not intentional. However, in fairness to Helissio, it needs to be corrected as they are completely false statements.
This statement in a subsequent post, in reply to JohnMonty, is also completely false;
"This is not a 'rig' claim... read the post again. If you want to have a go on answering how he only finishes 1st in multis, but rarely plays them, is smashing £2 games but doesnt go up a level....."
Does the fact that he includes the statement 'This is not a 'rig' claim' in what is quite clearly a rig claim, make this acceptable?
Personally, I think the accusations that the Sky RNG is rigged against him is one thing but claiming that another player is cheating on an open forum is totally unacceptable.
I have to correct this as it's unfair to let it stand. You have misread Sharkscope, though I'm quite sure it was unintentional, not deliberate.
"Nobody runs that well to win every MTT when they cash, never finishing 4th, 6th etc. Nobody can max raise every time their opponent bluffs, but fold every time they are strong and never be wrong. I have never seen someone crushing games to this extent, that dont move up levels. I have never seen someone play MTT once in a blue moon and when they cash its always 1st (hover on the '£' signs on the graph guys, its quite a read)."
To see the results of Helissio in MTT's you need to use the filter "SCHEDULED". Scheduled is MTT's ONLY. Of his 8,810 games shown in "ALL GAMES", just 621 are MTT's.
Of those 621 MTT's, he made the FT 132 times.
Of those 132 FT's;
His finishing positions?
1st 37 times
2nd 22 times
3rd 23 times
4th 19 times
5th 15 times
6th 16 times
These are what Sharkscope say, not me, and you or anyone else can check those simply by selecting "Scheduled > Graphs > Final Table Finishing Positions".
So these two statements you wrote are completely false & very unfair.
"Nobody runs that well to win every MTT when they cash, never finishing 4th, 6th etc"
"I have never seen someone play MTT once in a blue moon and when they cash its always 1st"
So he won 37 MTT's out of 621 played.
As I noted at the start, I'm sure this was not intentional. However, in fairness to Helissio, it needs to be corrected as they are completely false statements.
If that is the situation, i will accept it... it was just a small extra to the main HU strangeness... i just in the last few minutes have seen him get raised and reraised, ended up all in at low blinds... he held just 34KK on something like an 8 7 5 board... His opponent, as it happened, just had A3 and no hi......would you see that as a player crushing HU games?
I cant see how you can be crushing games playing like tht...... My experience with him is one that he is reading my soul..... and hes just playing £2 games with impeccable reading skills and knowing hands like 34KK is good on that board....
Does the fact that he includes the statement 'This is not a 'rig' claim' in what is quite clearly a rig claim, make this acceptable?
Personally, I think the accusations that the Sky RNG is rigged against him is one thing but claiming that another player is cheating on an open forum is totally unacceptable.
Correct.
Hopefully it was just a misunderstanding, & @TheWaddy will correct & retract his comments.
I have to correct this as it's unfair to let it stand. You have misread Sharkscope, though I'm quite sure it was unintentional, not deliberate.
"Nobody runs that well to win every MTT when they cash, never finishing 4th, 6th etc. Nobody can max raise every time their opponent bluffs, but fold every time they are strong and never be wrong. I have never seen someone crushing games to this extent, that dont move up levels. I have never seen someone play MTT once in a blue moon and when they cash its always 1st (hover on the '£' signs on the graph guys, its quite a read)."
To see the results of Helissio in MTT's you need to use the filter "SCHEDULED". Scheduled is MTT's ONLY. Of his 8,810 games shown in "ALL GAMES", just 621 are MTT's.
Of those 621 MTT's, he made the FT 132 times.
Of those 132 FT's;
His finishing positions?
1st 37 times
2nd 22 times
3rd 23 times
4th 19 times
5th 15 times
6th 16 times
These are what Sharkscope say, not me, and you or anyone else can check those simply by selecting "Scheduled > Graphs > Final Table Finishing Positions".
So these two statements you wrote are completely false & very unfair.
"Nobody runs that well to win every MTT when they cash, never finishing 4th, 6th etc"
"I have never seen someone play MTT once in a blue moon and when they cash its always 1st"
So he won 37 MTT's out of 621 played.
As I noted at the start, I'm sure this was not intentional. However, in fairness to Helissio, it needs to be corrected as they are completely false statements.
He will probably ask you to filter PL OMAHA HILO MTTs as many of those MTTs are the freerolls you get at 6.30pm on weekdays.
Does the fact that he includes the statement 'This is not a 'rig' claim' in what is quite clearly a rig claim, make this acceptable?
Personally, I think the accusations that the Sky RNG is rigged against him is one thing but claiming that another player is cheating on an open forum is totally unacceptable.
I have to correct this as it's unfair to let it stand. You have misread Sharkscope, though I'm quite sure it was unintentional, not deliberate.
"Nobody runs that well to win every MTT when they cash, never finishing 4th, 6th etc. Nobody can max raise every time their opponent bluffs, but fold every time they are strong and never be wrong. I have never seen someone crushing games to this extent, that dont move up levels. I have never seen someone play MTT once in a blue moon and when they cash its always 1st (hover on the '£' signs on the graph guys, its quite a read)."
To see the results of Helissio in MTT's you need to use the filter "SCHEDULED". Scheduled is MTT's ONLY. Of his 8,810 games shown in "ALL GAMES", just 621 are MTT's.
Of those 621 MTT's, he made the FT 132 times.
Of those 132 FT's;
His finishing positions?
1st 37 times
2nd 22 times
3rd 23 times
4th 19 times
5th 15 times
6th 16 times
These are what Sharkscope say, not me, and you or anyone else can check those simply by selecting "Scheduled > Graphs > Final Table Finishing Positions".
So these two statements you wrote are completely false & very unfair.
"Nobody runs that well to win every MTT when they cash, never finishing 4th, 6th etc"
"I have never seen someone play MTT once in a blue moon and when they cash its always 1st"
So he won 37 MTT's out of 621 played.
As I noted at the start, I'm sure this was not intentional. However, in fairness to Helissio, it needs to be corrected as they are completely false statements.
I dont subscribe to Sharkscope, so Hellisio2 seems to be covering himself by offering information that most of these are hold em freerolls....
Personally, I think the accusations that the Sky RNG is rigged against him is one thing but claiming that another player is cheating on an open forum is totally unacceptable.
Does the fact that he includes the statement 'This is not a 'rig' claim' in what is quite clearly a rig claim, make this acceptable?
Personally, I think the accusations that the Sky RNG is rigged against him is one thing but claiming that another player is cheating on an open forum is totally unacceptable.
I have to correct this as it's unfair to let it stand. You have misread Sharkscope, though I'm quite sure it was unintentional, not deliberate.
"Nobody runs that well to win every MTT when they cash, never finishing 4th, 6th etc. Nobody can max raise every time their opponent bluffs, but fold every time they are strong and never be wrong. I have never seen someone crushing games to this extent, that dont move up levels. I have never seen someone play MTT once in a blue moon and when they cash its always 1st (hover on the '£' signs on the graph guys, its quite a read)."
To see the results of Helissio in MTT's you need to use the filter "SCHEDULED". Scheduled is MTT's ONLY. Of his 8,810 games shown in "ALL GAMES", just 621 are MTT's.
Of those 621 MTT's, he made the FT 132 times.
Of those 132 FT's;
His finishing positions?
1st 37 times
2nd 22 times
3rd 23 times
4th 19 times
5th 15 times
6th 16 times
These are what Sharkscope say, not me, and you or anyone else can check those simply by selecting "Scheduled > Graphs > Final Table Finishing Positions".
So these two statements you wrote are completely false & very unfair.
"Nobody runs that well to win every MTT when they cash, never finishing 4th, 6th etc"
"I have never seen someone play MTT once in a blue moon and when they cash its always 1st"
So he won 37 MTT's out of 621 played.
As I noted at the start, I'm sure this was not intentional. However, in fairness to Helissio, it needs to be corrected as they are completely false statements.
I dont subscribe to Sharkscope, so Hellisio2 seems to be covering himself by offering information that most of these are hold em freerolls....
Incorrect, approx 209 (roughly a third) are Freerolls.
You asked me to post evidence. Lets take your Sharkscope below. All the guys on here say variance and downswings are a big part of poker, online or live. From your graph, appears you dont suffer from this in any form whatsoever.
A little odd for a player who chases the low only, heads up, that if you hit it.... if... you simply get your chips invested back. You make a lot of rookie mistakes, which somehow are not losing. In hi lo, basic mistakes are very noticeable.... you can not have a graph like that making these errors, you will be found out over time.
You bet virtually ever river in a checked out hand.., unless ive slow played a good hand and you suddenly dont do it for the first time in like forever.
If i bluff you, which is few and far between, as you have to pick the right spots in hi lo, you immediatley max raise me.... but insta fold if i have it.
You do not use the chat box at any point, but rush into the Forum within 30secs to celebrate your 'win'. Why are you unable to use the chat box during play?
Despite having this record, making £5k+ at £2 games, you have not gone up to a higher level. With a no downswing graph over thousands of games, why would that be? To stay under the radar perhaps? Your a player who completely backs online poker, can crush the game but dont play higher. Its getting suspicious now huh?
If you have played a MTT, every tournament shows you have come 1st... not cashed at 2nd, 3rd, 6th.... 1st each MTT, but have only played a modest amount. With such a record were you simply win each tournament, why are they few and far between? To stay under the radar perhaps?
£2 games are similar clientele to £1 games. You get a huge amount of players playin hold em within a hi lo game. Therefore you can not get players to fold much at all. These players, you need to be dealt to cards to win and play a patient game.... or later on when the blinds increase, if youre card dead you simply have to pick a spot, when you suspect they weakly hold like just top pair. Somehow, that is no problem for you. You are running so well, your graph never waivers.
My experience, as everyone knows, is that you can get your money in at this small level with your opponent needing a miracle... which they seem to hit alot.... but from your graph you dont seem to suffer from this whatsoever. You can not crush these £2 games by getting players to fold when you are weak yourself, as in bigger levels... they are calling calling calling... so it seems your are getting exceptional cards or know your opponents holdings.
You are not a good enough player HU to have this graph, given the basic errors. Nobody runs that well to win every MTT when they cash, never finishing 4th, 6th etc. Nobody can max raise every time their opponent bluffs, but fold every time they are strong and never be wrong. I have never seen someone crushing games to this extent, that dont move up levels. I have never seen someone play MTT once in a blue moon and when they cash its always 1st (hover on the '£' signs on the graph guys, its quite a read).
It appears you play £2 games, knowing anything bigger will attract an investigation.
I think theres quite some explaining to do here.... that is my evidence, a wholly suspicious rook of things that can not be rationally explained. I mean we have just had a tv clip where there is a big investigation, just for someone calling with Jack high... and then we have this guy here!
This is also incorrect. (The highlighted part).
I can see from, the Chat Logs that Helissio frequently chats with table companions, but not when he plays you.
In heads up I am on the 'Game Info' tab, so usually not viewing the chat tab. Also HU is supposed to be quick. I dont want to waste time chatting when we could be playing! It does delay the game!
Of course MTT's are different, plenty of dead time to chat.
Does the fact that he includes the statement 'This is not a 'rig' claim' in what is quite clearly a rig claim, make this acceptable?
Personally, I think the accusations that the Sky RNG is rigged against him is one thing but claiming that another player is cheating on an open forum is totally unacceptable.
Correct.
Hopefully it was just a misunderstanding, & @TheWaddy will correct & retract his comments.
I would imagine a 'rig' claim would involve the site somehow. I have not mentioned or suggested this in any way in this observation of Helissio2.
In my games, this guy has displayed impossible plays, for someone displaying these graphs. I have just seen him raise, get reraised... and ended up all in HU with low blinds... with KK34 on a 8 5 7 flop... As it happened his opponent held just A3 and no hi .... all in from a nothing pot, low blinds.
This is not sky rocketing no swing graphs play... its erratic, big swing graph play.
The patterns of play during my games, are just as such that he knows my holdings, absolutely incredible of i have not seen even by the best on tv. Hes smashing it but still playing £2. Hes massively gambling it up, like above, unless he knows your cards.... so his graph should represent this style. Up and down.
A guy can question how someones calling a one off hand with a Jack High on a wide audience world tv show, but i cant query how on earth this guy is doing this with play such as this in a forum?
It is of course, always the same kangaroo court on the forum. Another reg forum-er posting the same thing, it would have a completely different reaction.
There is alot to answer here, just pointing out hes played a big amount of hold em freerolls tounrs is not really putting it to bed is it?
Comments
So the online deck is rigged against you and for other players? The evidence? someone that wins less games than you do…
This is not a 'rig' claim... read the post again. If you want to have a go on answering how he only finishes 1st in multis, but rarely plays them, is smashing £2 games but doesnt go up a level.....
What i do know at this level is we get calls like this on the flop, so to have a graph like is impossible.....
Its that nut straight flop again..... but the call on the flop?? The result on river????
I have to correct this as it's unfair to let it stand. You have misread Sharkscope, though I'm quite sure it was unintentional, not deliberate.
"Nobody runs that well to win every MTT when they cash, never finishing 4th, 6th etc. Nobody can max raise every time their opponent bluffs, but fold every time they are strong and never be wrong. I have never seen someone crushing games to this extent, that dont move up levels. I have never seen someone play MTT once in a blue moon and when they cash its always 1st (hover on the '£' signs on the graph guys, its quite a read)."
To see the results of Helissio in MTT's you need to use the filter "SCHEDULED". Scheduled is MTT's ONLY. Of his 8,810 games shown in "ALL GAMES", just 621 are MTT's.
Of those 621 MTT's, he made the FT 132 times.
Of those 132 FT's;
His finishing positions?
1st 37 times
2nd 22 times
3rd 23 times
4th 19 times
5th 15 times
6th 16 times
These are what Sharkscope say, not me, and you or anyone else can check those simply by selecting "Scheduled > Graphs > Final Table Finishing Positions".
So these two statements you wrote are completely false & very unfair.
"Nobody runs that well to win every MTT when they cash, never finishing 4th, 6th etc"
"I have never seen someone play MTT once in a blue moon and when they cash its always 1st"
So he won 37 MTT's out of 621 played.
As I noted at the start, I'm sure this was not intentional. However, in fairness to Helissio, it needs to be corrected as they are completely false statements.
How does he pivot now?
Maybe he’ll start with an apology.
Lovely stats @Helissio2 wp.
"This is not a 'rig' claim... read the post again. If you want to have a go on answering how he only finishes 1st in multis, but rarely plays them, is smashing £2 games but doesnt go up a level....."
He finished 1st 37 times from 621 MTT's played.
Personally, I think the accusations that the Sky RNG is rigged against him is one thing but claiming that another player is cheating on an open forum is totally unacceptable.
68.3% is more than 65.9% btw
I cant see how you can be crushing games playing like tht...... My experience with him is one that he is reading my soul..... and hes just playing £2 games with impeccable reading skills and knowing hands like 34KK is good on that board....
I'm not so good with doing screenshots, but if anyone wants to validate what I've stated with screenshot(s) from Sharky, go ahead.
Correct.
Hopefully it was just a misunderstanding, & @TheWaddy will correct & retract his comments.
EDIT - DOnt worry - worked it out! :-)
Incorrect, approx 209 (roughly a third) are Freerolls.
This is also incorrect. (The highlighted part).
I can see from, the Chat Logs that Helissio frequently chats with table companions, but not when he plays you.
Of course MTT's are different, plenty of dead time to chat.
Not sure why I need to reveal any of this! LOL
In my games, this guy has displayed impossible plays, for someone displaying these graphs. I have just seen him raise, get reraised... and ended up all in HU with low blinds... with KK34 on a 8 5 7 flop... As it happened his opponent held just A3 and no hi .... all in from a nothing pot, low blinds.
This is not sky rocketing no swing graphs play... its erratic, big swing graph play.
The patterns of play during my games, are just as such that he knows my holdings, absolutely incredible of i have not seen even by the best on tv. Hes smashing it but still playing £2. Hes massively gambling it up, like above, unless he knows your cards.... so his graph should represent this style. Up and down.
A guy can question how someones calling a one off hand with a Jack High on a wide audience world tv show, but i cant query how on earth this guy is doing this with play such as this in a forum?
It is of course, always the same kangaroo court on the forum. Another reg forum-er posting the same thing, it would have a completely different reaction.
There is alot to answer here, just pointing out hes played a big amount of hold em freerolls tounrs is not really putting it to bed is it?