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Heads up Omaha Hi Lo standard result

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    Bean81Bean81 Member Posts: 515
    Why wouldn't you pay 1% vig when you know for certain that all 90-10 in your favour come out at 5-95 against?
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    TheWaddyTheWaddy Member Posts: 1,592
    Its a very special deck....
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    TheWaddySmall blind100.00100.002260.00
    LIBBYLOOBig blind200.00300.00440.00
    Your hole cards
    • 7
    • 9
    • 7
    • 8
    TheWaddyCall100.00400.002160.00
    LIBBYLOOCheck
    Flop
    • 2
    • 10
    • 8
    LIBBYLOOCheck
    TheWaddyCheck
    Turn
    • 9
    LIBBYLOOCheck
    TheWaddyCheck
    River
    • 8
    LIBBYLOOBet400.00800.0040.00
    TheWaddyRaise800.001600.001360.00
    LIBBYLOOAll-in40.001640.000.00
    TheWaddyUnmatched bet360.001280.001720.00
    TheWaddyShow
    • 7
    • 9
    • 7
    • 8
    LIBBYLOOShow
    • 10
    • 7
    • 4
    • 6
    LIBBYLOOWin highStraight Flush to the 101280.001280.00
    No qualifying low hand
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    TheWaddyTheWaddy Member Posts: 1,592
    I will just keep on putting up these special hands, only one card in the deck that can give a fh AND the straight flush here of course....

    Then the audience can then be amazed by the real footage hand that is put up on other posts now and then, that you are only amazed about because its a real situation... even though its strangers and not your hands......
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    bbMikebbMike Member Posts: 3,702
    Put up the entire session and let’s have a look.

    No point cherry picking.
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    TheWaddyTheWaddy Member Posts: 1,592
    Bit weird... should i even be able to cherry pick a hand like this every time i log on?

    Someone puts a real hand up that someone has played somewhere in the world, that doesnt even involve them.... once in a blue moon... and suddenly you guys are amazed by it!

    I dont know how many of these i can put up on a regular basis, that if it was on tv it would make a Phil Helmuth Bad Beats and lucky Draws book and be shared on poker forums as an amazing occurence......
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    TheWaddyTheWaddy Member Posts: 1,592
    I have played just a modest handful of heads up games today... the above was a big pot, but i have seen 2 other straight flushes today were the pot was tiny.... at 1100-1 a pop....

    Its a very special deck. You can be in denial (ive no idea why?), but you do know the score. It would be impossible not to.

    I have won 4 and lost one today, so i really dont have a grudge, its just an observation.
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    Bean81Bean81 Member Posts: 515
    You're right - 6.4bb is a massive pot.
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    EnutEnut Member Posts: 3,279
    You would also have lost to any hand containing pocket 10s or pocket 9s or QsJs. Please remember (as I'm sure you do) that, heads up, you are starting with 12 'holdem' hands instead of two each time a hand is dealt. The chances of such 'special' hands running into each other is therefore much more commonplace in PLO and PLO8. How many hands did you play in that session and in other sessions since the last time you cherry picked a hand to post about?
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    TheWaddyTheWaddy Member Posts: 1,592
    Im just looking at straight flushes, however you wish to smokescreen it, which are 1110-1 a pop.....
    Bean81 said:

    You're right - 6.4bb is a massive pot.

    And the relevance is?
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    TheWaddyTheWaddy Member Posts: 1,592
    I had one game today with my old mate 'prodigy' where we just laughed the whole game in the chat box at the incredible enhanced hand situation... hand after hand we had flush over flush, nuts to 2nd nuts.... it was .... nuts.

    It would even have been incredible if it was a full table... this was just a single heads up game.

    If it was a short term thing, it could be put down to variance and every other excuse. Its a never ending long term thing though isnt it.

    As i say im 4 games to one up today, its not sour grapes, just an observation.....
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    Bean81Bean81 Member Posts: 515
    TheWaddy said:

    Im just looking at straight flushes, however you wish to smokescreen it, which are 1110-1 a pop.....

    Bean81 said:

    You're right - 6.4bb is a massive pot.

    And the relevance is?
    You said it was a big pot.
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    TheWaddyTheWaddy Member Posts: 1,592
    Had to play 2 games to qualify for the freerolls next week. Pre games im thinking, it is likely those 2 games will be predetermined losses,as thats how it always goes in that situation.

    Boy they didnt disappoint! First guy was a button presser. Max raise preflop, max bet flop. On a slow structure heads up, should be the easiest game you will ever play. He Kept being in with errrr... nothing ..... my nut lows then splitting with his mighty jack hi's and the like.

    Saved him over and over, got to 2200-800 at one point, but could see i was never going to beat the deck on this one, even though i could beat the opponent very, very easily each time into being in with nothing.

    2nd game i had a nut nut situation on the turn... tried to raise max, it wouldnt let me! But would let me min raise!? A new technique to stop the win ive not seen before... nice one Sky! Cos i could only min raise, he called... and of course he hit a 7% chance to get a fh and split.

    Had him all in needing rivers 3 times to survive, hit 3 times. I had a spot on commentary telling him what was going to happen before it indeed did, which he got embarrased about (eg he raised me all in with Q10 3 7 on a Q10 2 flop...i had QQ AK, put in chat box cue runners for your low.... which it did no prob etc etc).

    The predetermined predictability even before a card was dealt, the situations i knew would happen came, the results also a given.

    Im not sure what im supposed to think, when i can put in the chat box the outcomes before they come??
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    MISTY4MEMISTY4ME Member Posts: 6,168
    TheWaddy said:

    Had to play 2 games to qualify for the freerolls next week. Pre games im thinking, it is likely those 2 games will be predetermined losses,as thats how it always goes in that situation.

    Boy they didnt disappoint! First guy was a button presser. Max raise preflop, max bet flop. On a slow structure heads up, should be the easiest game you will ever play. He Kept being in with errrr... nothing ..... my nut lows then splitting with his mighty jack hi's and the like.

    Saved him over and over, got to 2200-800 at one point, but could see i was never going to beat the deck on this one, even though i could beat the opponent very, very easily each time into being in with nothing.

    2nd game i had a nut nut situation on the turn... tried to raise max, it wouldnt let me! But would let me min raise!? A new technique to stop the win ive not seen before... nice one Sky! Cos i could only min raise, he called... and of course he hit a 7% chance to get a fh and split.

    Had him all in needing rivers 3 times to survive, hit 3 times. I had a spot on commentary telling him what was going to happen before it indeed did, which he got embarrased about (eg he raised me all in with Q10 3 7 on a Q10 2 flop...i had QQ AK, put in chat box cue runners for your low.... which it did no prob etc etc).

    The predetermined predictability even before a card was dealt, the situations i knew would happen came, the results also a given.

    Im not sure what im supposed to think, when i can put in the chat box the outcomes before they come??

    Can't you rename yourself RNGWaddy ......or better still MysticWadds ? :)
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    Helissio2Helissio2 Member Posts: 61
    Watch out. Just beat TheWaddy again and he really isnt happy!

    Here is the last hand:
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    Helissio2Small blind20.0020.001540.00
    TheWaddyBig blind40.0060.001400.00
    Your hole cards
    • J
    • 9
    • K
    • 7
    Helissio2Raise100.00160.001440.00
    TheWaddyCall80.00240.001320.00
    Flop
    • Q
    • 6
    • 9
    TheWaddyCheck
    Helissio2Bet80.00320.001360.00
    TheWaddyRaise480.00800.00840.00
    Helissio2All-in1360.002160.000.00
    TheWaddyAll-in840.003000.000.00
    Helissio2Unmatched bet120.002880.00120.00
    Helissio2Show
    • J
    • 9
    • K
    • 7
    TheWaddyShow
    • J
    • 10
    • 7
    • 9
    Turn
    • Q
    River
    • A
    Helissio2Win highTwo Pairs, Queens and 9s2880.003000.00
    No qualifying low hand
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    TheWaddyTheWaddy Member Posts: 1,592
    Yeah i had to go due to a phone call, so based on the bizarre previous all in hand, you were likely to have very little and thought id gamble.
    I think im gonna sit with you when i see you for £20 or so, the play has been so incredibly bad for all ins, if you really cant see my cards, this should be a field day eventually.
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    TheWaddySmall blind10.0010.001430.00
    Helissio2Big blind20.0030.001540.00
    Your hole cards
    • 8
    • J
    • 4
    • A
    TheWaddyRaise30.0060.001400.00
    Helissio2Call20.0080.001520.00
    Flop
    • 2
    • 10
    • 7
    Helissio2Check
    TheWaddyBet60.00140.001340.00
    Helissio2Call60.00200.001460.00
    Turn
    • 3
    Helissio2Check
    TheWaddyBet150.00350.001190.00
    Helissio2Raise650.001000.00810.00
    TheWaddyCall500.001500.00690.00
    River
    • 4
    Helissio2All-in810.002310.000.00
    TheWaddyAll-in690.003000.000.00
    Helissio2Unmatched bet120.002880.00120.00
    TheWaddyShow
    • 8
    • J
    • 4
    • A
    Helissio2Show
    • 5
    • K
    • 4
    • K
    Helissio2Win highPair of Kings1440.001560.00
    TheWaddyWin low7-low1440.001440.00
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    Helissio2Helissio2 Member Posts: 61
    Brave call. You can basically only chop the bot.
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    TheWaddyTheWaddy Member Posts: 1,592
    You see it that way, i see it a complete other. It was more a brave/stupid huge bets and raises in my eyes, with very little.

    The fact i had the nut low on the turn, im not going to fold river when that much invested.

    As i say im sitting whenever i see you for the next few days, if your lumping with this, which you have done evey game up to now. If i lose £20 or so to this, then it will be time to move sites.
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    Helissio2Helissio2 Member Posts: 61
    TheWaddy said:

    You see it that way, i see it a complete other. It was more a brave/stupid huge bets and raises in my eyes, with very little.

    The fact i had the nut low on the turn, im not going to fold river when that much invested.

    As i say im sitting whenever i see you for the next few days, if your lumping with this, which you have done evey game up to now. If i lose £20 or so to this, then it will be time to move sites.

    Nut low would have been A5
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    TheWaddyTheWaddy Member Posts: 1,592
    I said i had the nut low on the turn.....

    Perhaps read things properly if you want to try and be clever...... :#

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    Helissio2Helissio2 Member Posts: 61
    TheWaddy said:

    I said i had the nut low on the turn.....

    Perhaps read things properly if you want to try and be clever...... :#

    Yes. And you called an all in without it after the river.
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