On that subject, "fans" who say they don't agree with the Owner or Manager, and as a result will no longer be supporting them. Answer is simple-not really a fan in the first place.
Arsenal haven't won the League for 21 years. Spurs 64 years. European trophies? Arsenal 31 years. Spurs 41 years. Neither have won the big one. Last trophies? The FA Cup hasn't really mattered for 30 years. The League Cup for longer. But neither club admits to that.
Yet we continue to be fans. Because that is the way it should be.
The amount of fans who want our owners out is mind boggling , yes we're in the doldrums but i dare to think where we would be without them , we wouldn't have had ten years in the prem without them , fans need perspective which a lot of them don't have In this day and age fans want instant success , it don't work like that , and when everybody has a voice to be heard all around the world the negativity just ramps up
The amount of fans who want our owners out is mind boggling , yes we're in the doldrums but i dare to think where we would be without them , we wouldn't have had ten years in the prem without them , fans need perspective which a lot of them don't have In this day and age fans want instant success , it don't work like that , and when everybody has a voice to be heard all around the world the negativity just ramps up
The amount of fans who want our owners out is mind boggling , yes we're in the doldrums but i dare to think where we would be without them , we wouldn't have had ten years in the prem without them , fans need perspective which a lot of them don't have In this day and age fans want instant success , it don't work like that , and when everybody has a voice to be heard all around the world the negativity just ramps up
Yes, & Stoke City & the Coates family is a wonderful example.
Think they give free coach travel to away games, too?
Also we've had season ticket prices frozen since 2007 / 2008. Never once increased during our 10 years in the Prem. I bet no other club can claim that. Paying the same price now to watch the Championship as we did in the promotion season.
Our cheapest tickets cost less than those up the road at Port Fail. We are financially secure, have a good stadium and facilities and a great community bond. If the Johnny come lately brigade who arrived on the scene when we made the big time had stood on the old ground in the pouring rain on a Monday night watching us lose 1 - 3 to the Rose and Crown in front of 7,000 people actually understood what being a fan is all about we would never have been relegated.
The amount of fans who want our owners out is mind boggling , yes we're in the doldrums but i dare to think where we would be without them , we wouldn't have had ten years in the prem without them , fans need perspective which a lot of them don't have In this day and age fans want instant success , it don't work like that , and when everybody has a voice to be heard all around the world the negativity just ramps up
Yes, & Stoke City & the Coates family is a wonderful example.
Think they give free coach travel to away games, too?
Also we've had season ticket prices frozen since 2007 / 2008. Never once increased during our 10 years in the Prem. I bet no other club can claim that. Paying the same price now to watch the Championship as we did in the promotion season.
Our cheapest tickets cost less than those up the road at Port Fail. We are financially secure, have a good stadium and facilities and a great community bond. If the Johnny come lately brigade who arrived on the scene when we made the big time had stood on the old ground in the pouring rain on a Monday night watching us lose 1 - 3 to the Rose and Crown in front of 7,000 people actually understood what being a fan is all about we would never have been relegated.
Stand-out play-off game looks like Man City v Real Madrid.
Likely last 16 clashes are PSG v Liverpool, Real Madrid v Atletico Madrid & Inter v Milan.
Meanwhile, 1 of Club Brugge, Atalanta, Lille and Villa are going to make the last 8. Having said that, looks like more good teams on the left-hand side of the Draw.
Stand-out play-off game looks like Man City v Real Madrid.
Likely last 16 clashes are PSG v Liverpool, Real Madrid v Atletico Madrid & Inter v Milan.
Meanwhile, 1 of Club Brugge, Atalanta, Lille and Villa are going to make the last 8. Having said that, looks like more good teams on the left-hand side of the Draw.
@Essexphil I know what you're trying to do and I'm not rising to it
The seeded teams (those who finished top 8) can still end up on either side of the draw, which won't be confirmed until the next draw.
Round of 16, quarter-final, semi-final draw 21 February 2025.
It looks like Arsenal will be on left hand side of draw-unless more than 1 play-off has a surprise result.
Unlikely to affect Arsenal too much. You would be odds against (but not long odds against) v Real or Bayern (and probably slight favourites v Juventus/Milan)
Thinking more of 3 potential winners in the play-offs on the left (PSG, Man City & Real Madrid) v just Bayern Munich on the Right.
It's never certain that 1 of the favourites will win it, anyway. As an example, Chelsea have had many sides that looked like they could challenge. Whereas the Chelsea side that did win it in 2012 was a terrible team.
Really hope Real Madrid fail. I hate the way they go public about p[layers they want and unsettle them. Just as true for (for example) Saliba as Romero.
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On that subject, "fans" who say they don't agree with the Owner or Manager, and as a result will no longer be supporting them. Answer is simple-not really a fan in the first place.
Arsenal haven't won the League for 21 years. Spurs 64 years.
European trophies? Arsenal 31 years. Spurs 41 years. Neither have won the big one.
Last trophies? The FA Cup hasn't really mattered for 30 years. The League Cup for longer. But neither club admits to that.
Yet we continue to be fans. Because that is the way it should be.
In this day and age fans want instant success , it don't work like that , and when everybody has a voice to be heard all around the world the negativity just ramps up
@stokefc
Yes, & Stoke City & the Coates family is a wonderful example.
Think they give free coach travel to away games, too?
Guess who the Referee was in that game ?
Yep, Michael Oliver.
Our cheapest tickets cost less than those up the road at Port Fail. We are financially secure, have a good stadium and facilities and a great community bond. If the Johnny come lately brigade who arrived on the scene when we made the big time had stood on the old ground in the pouring rain on a Monday night watching us lose 1 - 3 to the Rose and Crown in front of 7,000 people actually understood what being a fan is all about we would never have been relegated.
WP the Coates family.
Likely last 16 clashes are PSG v Liverpool, Real Madrid v Atletico Madrid & Inter v Milan.
Meanwhile, 1 of Club Brugge, Atalanta, Lille and Villa are going to make the last 8. Having said that, looks like more good teams on the left-hand side of the Draw.
The seeded teams (those who finished top 8) can still end up on either side of the draw, which won't be confirmed until the next draw.
Round of 16, quarter-final, semi-final draw 21 February 2025.
It looks like Arsenal will be on left hand side of draw-unless more than 1 play-off has a surprise result.
Unlikely to affect Arsenal too much. You would be odds against (but not long odds against) v Real or Bayern (and probably slight favourites v Juventus/Milan)
Thinking more of 3 potential winners in the play-offs on the left (PSG, Man City & Real Madrid) v just Bayern Munich on the Right.
It's never certain that 1 of the favourites will win it, anyway. As an example, Chelsea have had many sides that looked like they could challenge. Whereas the Chelsea side that did win it in 2012 was a terrible team.
Really hope Real Madrid fail. I hate the way they go public about p[layers they want and unsettle them. Just as true for (for example) Saliba as Romero.