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    legascaaclegascaac Member Posts: 135
    A think a need 2 lol 😂..couldn’t make as much of a mess as any of the previous bunch . But things need sorted soon .
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    lucy4lucy4 Member Posts: 7,260
    Conservative election promises in their manifestos on immigration since they came to power.

    2010 - Get net migration to 10,000's - FAILED.
    2015 - Get net migration to 10,000's - FAILED.
    2017 - Get net migration to 10,000's - FAILED.
    2019 - Take back control of immigration - FAILED.
    2024 - They are now promising this time that if they get re-elected numbers will come down!

    That's 14 years of failure but they've promised they'll deliver this time if we vote for them. Yea ok you've had your chances and failed miserably. Why should we believe you this time ?
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    EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,346
    lucy4 said:

    Conservative election promises in their manifestos on immigration since they came to power.

    2010 - Get net migration to 10,000's - FAILED.
    2015 - Get net migration to 10,000's - FAILED.
    2017 - Get net migration to 10,000's - FAILED.
    2019 - Take back control of immigration - FAILED.
    2024 - They are now promising this time that if they get re-elected numbers will come down!

    That's 14 years of failure but they've promised they'll deliver this time if we vote for them. Yea ok you've had your chances and failed miserably. Why should we believe you this time ?

    2010. Net migration. 250,000
    2015. Net migration. 300,000
    2017. Net migration 230,000
    2019. Net migration 212,000
    2022. Net migration 764,000
    2023. Good news all!. Down 10% to "only" 685,000

    And-if you vote them in-they are confident they can get that figure down to 500,000.

    Only twice that when they came into power.
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    EnutEnut Member Posts: 3,330
    edited May 23
    I'm not going to defend the Tory's record on immigration, it's woeful, however in the last 15 years immigration has become much more of a global problem, the overall numbers are much greater than they were in 2010. Yes some people are facing persecution and leave their home countries because of that but many, many more are financial immigrants. They are coming to the UK as they see it as the land of opportunity (or, in some cases, benefits), I dare say they get treated pretty poorly in every country they go through on the way (especially France) so they have to keep travelling to reach the end of the rainbow. Sadly, I don't think we're the pot of gold they're looking for either, but by that time it's too late.
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    EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,346
    Enut said:

    I'm not going to defend the Tory's record on immigration, it's woeful, however in the last 15 years immigration has become much more of a global problem, the overall numbers are much greater than they were in 2010. Yes some people are facing persecution and leave their home countries because of that but many, many more are financial immigrants. They are coming to the UK as they see it as the land of opportunity (or, in some cases, benefits), I dare say they get treated pretty poorly in every country they go through on the way (especially France) so they have to keep travelling to reach the end of the rainbow. Sadly, I don't think we're the pot of gold they're looking for either, but by that time it's too late.

    All of that is true. For the 7-8% asylum seekers coming in via small boat.

    But not true for the 92-93% given study and work visas.
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    legascaaclegascaac Member Posts: 135
    That makes woeful reading, those figures, a new it was bad , people that live on the south coast no wonder they’re fed up with it..
    your spot on as well we are not the pot off gold but to them we are , and its stealing our taxes to pay for them it has to stop money needs spent here not on housing immigrants it’s destroying this country. We can’t keep being a charity . Draconian or not straight on a plane and back to where you came from no exceptions come by boat must be returned
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 33,193
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 33,193
    Blur and Gogglebox to Olympic gold: The famous faces who could become MPs


    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/blur-gogglebox-olympic-gold-famous-123000741.html
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 33,193
    Net migration ‘unusually high’ as UK heads towards General Election




    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/net-migration-unusually-high-uk-112304681.html
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 33,193
    Rishi Sunak takes ‘staged’ question from Tory councillor posing as worker



    https://uk.news.yahoo.com/rishi-sunak-question-tory-councillor-ross-hills-133119634.html
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    tai-gartai-gar Member Posts: 2,626

    Letter of the day from the Times.


    On the letters page today, a response from Chris van Hoorn to this article asking why Rishi Sunak may have called an early election.

    Chris van Hoorn: Amid all the speculation around the reasons for Rishi Sunak’s announcement of an early election, none has mentioned the possibility that secretly he might actually want to lose. The scale of the problems facing the country and the paucity of talent available to him make his task virtually impossible. Perhaps the same thought has come to other party leaders, for they show little enthusiasm for putting forward detailed plans of their own.

    The underlying weakness of our two-party system needs to be addressed and our adversarial politics revised to make it possible for the long-term issues that face this country to be resolved. To do this we need greater consensus in all areas of our public life, which can only remain a dream under our existing electoral system.
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    goldongoldon Member Posts: 8,641
    He hoped they would put him in Prison for a warm bed & food as the foxes were beating him to the Mc Donalds rubbish bins.


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    tomgooduntomgoodun Member Posts: 3,743
    I understand Parliament has been dissolved? until after the election on July 4th, what do all the MP’s do in the meantime?
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    TheEdge949TheEdge949 Member Posts: 5,437
    They should be canvassing and campaigning although the 3 Conservative MPs for Stoke on Trent North, Central and South might better use their time packing their stuff.
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 33,193
    Essexphil said:

    lucy4 said:

    Conservative election promises in their manifestos on immigration since they came to power.

    2010 - Get net migration to 10,000's - FAILED.
    2015 - Get net migration to 10,000's - FAILED.
    2017 - Get net migration to 10,000's - FAILED.
    2019 - Take back control of immigration - FAILED.
    2024 - They are now promising this time that if they get re-elected numbers will come down!

    That's 14 years of failure but they've promised they'll deliver this time if we vote for them. Yea ok you've had your chances and failed miserably. Why should we believe you this time ?

    2010. Net migration. 250,000
    2015. Net migration. 300,000
    2017. Net migration 230,000
    2019. Net migration 212,000
    2022. Net migration 764,000
    2023. Good news all!. Down 10% to "only" 685,000

    And-if you vote them in-they are confident they can get that figure down to 500,000.

    Only twice that when they came into power.
    Essexphil said:

    lucy4 said:

    Conservative election promises in their manifestos on immigration since they came to power.

    2010 - Get net migration to 10,000's - FAILED.
    2015 - Get net migration to 10,000's - FAILED.
    2017 - Get net migration to 10,000's - FAILED.
    2019 - Take back control of immigration - FAILED.
    2024 - They are now promising this time that if they get re-elected numbers will come down!

    That's 14 years of failure but they've promised they'll deliver this time if we vote for them. Yea ok you've had your chances and failed miserably. Why should we believe you this time ?

    2010. Net migration. 250,000
    2015. Net migration. 300,000
    2017. Net migration 230,000
    2019. Net migration 212,000
    2022. Net migration 764,000
    2023. Good news all!. Down 10% to "only" 685,000

    And-if you vote them in-they are confident they can get that figure down to 500,000.

    Only twice that when they came into power.
    Conservative bosses bar Lord Frost from standing as MP


    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/conservative-bosses-bar-lord-frost-124929394.html
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    DoublemeDoubleme Member Posts: 1,808
    the odds are moving more in favour of labour it seems then tory plan is they know its all doomed and they simply want to hand Labour a poisened challice which means I will lose my bet and not get the £70 or gloating rights for the I told you so on a tory victory but things will get much worse anyway and then Labour party fall apart and we get tories back in two years the worst of all worlds.
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