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  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,771
    The good old Torygraph.

    3 new polls. 2 showing a 23 point lead for Labour. And 1 a 12 point lead. Guess which one gets the Headline. In shock news it is the 1 carried out by the pollster who traditionally works for the Conservative Party. Led by former strategist to Theresa May.

    The 1 that polled 1,000 people. As opposed to the 12,000 in 1 of the other polls.

    And I love the spin that claims over-65s are flocking to the Tories. Apparently, largely due to the Govts great plans on pensions. The ones that hadn't been unveiled at the time this poll took place.
  • DoublemeDoubleme Member Posts: 2,147
    great I knew this was going to happen I dont know how but I just knew the tories are going to win this election. I cant imagine how much worse things will get afterwards when they see they can do all this and still get elected.
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,771
    Doubleme said:

    great I knew this was going to happen I dont know how but I just knew the tories are going to win this election. I cant imagine how much worse things will get afterwards when they see they can do all this and still get elected.

    You're not a glass half full kind of guy. Or even a glass half empty kind of guy.

    You are sometimes a my glass has been stolen and we are all doomed kind of guy.

    Life really isn't as bad as you fear. Relax.
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    MP Lloyd Russell-Moyle suspended from Labour Party after complaint


    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/mp-lloyd-russell-moyle-suspended-173542698.html
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,771
    I found this article illuminating.

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/why-are-different-polling-companies-getting-such-different-results/ar-BB1ni1zg?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=3ee165d4bd5044588438492dbe1287ea&ei=24

    In short, when opinion polls say how people currently intend to vote, that may not be true.

    Most polls just say how people intend to vote. And Labour are ahead. Massively.

    But 2 Opinion pollsters pretend they are reporting how people have reported they will vote. And, not to put too fine a point on it, are lying.

    Opinium ask everybody who they voted at at the last election. And, if they say they "don't know" how they intend to vote at the next election, assume that they will vote the same way as at the last election. Which is simply not true

    And JL Partners? The 1 that used to advise the Conservatives? They assign "don't knows" according to how JL Partners think they will vote. Which, in short, appears to be-"Conservative".
  • lucy4lucy4 Member Posts: 7,933
    Jeremy Hunt Clashes With BBC Presenter Over Whether Liz Truss Is To Blame For High Mortgages.

    The chancellor challenged Charlie Stayt's claim that the mini-budget had caused higher interest rates.

    Jeremy Hunt has suggested that Liz Truss’s disastrous mini-budget was not to blame for soaring mortgage bills.

    The chancellor clashed with BBC Breakfast presenter Charlie Stayt after he said interest rates were still “stubbornly high” because of what the previous prime minister did.

    But Hunt insisted that the pandemic and the war in Ukraine - not Truss - had led to mortgage repayments going up - and hinted that Stayt was being biased.

    The chancellor’s comments appeared to fly in the face of what happened in the immediate aftermath of the mini-budget in September 2022, when the financial system went into meltdown and interest rates went up.

    Stayt told him: “People will be well aware of the reality of where your Conservative government has taken them in terms of their household budgets.

    “They will be looking at mortgages, which remain stubbornly high because of what a former Conservative prime minister did.

    ’They’ll be looking at the reality of inflation, that may be coming down now but the living cost of that remains higher. That happened under your administration.”

    An irritated Hunt replied: “Well Charlie I really would challenge you, and I know the BBC is fiercely impartial, on making statement like you’ve just said because if the higher mortgage rates were as a result of Liz Truss, why is it that living standards have fallen further in Germany or Austria or Sweden?

    “The reason why we’ve had 11% inflation and interest rates had to go up is because of Putin’s invasion of Ukraine and a global pandemic.”

    Butting in, Stayt said: “I’m going to have to interrupt you there because you challenge what we are saying there. Are you suggesting there was and is no connection between what Liz Truss did as prime minister ... and the interest rates that people are now or will be paying when their fixed rates end?”

    The chancellor replied: “I reversed the decisions that she took and that’s why you can see that the reason interest rates went up was because of global factors - I think most people understand that.”

    https://x.com/BBCBreakfast/status/1796077413308199360
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,771
    Diane Abbott.

    She is not being "barred" from standing. She is not currently being selected, as (at least so far) prospective MPs are being selected who are considered to be better than her. Now. Not in the past. Now.

    Politics is a lot like work life everywhere else. Suppose you get a new Boss. Some people take the opportunity to leave and publicly say why they don't like that new boss.

    Some people don't like the new Boss. But need to get paid. So just get on with their job, rather than voice their opinions. Which Bosses are normally fine with.

    Then there are people who think they can say whatever they like in the workplace. Believe that they are so good at their job that they are irreplaceable. They get replaced.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,837
    Essexphil said:

    Diane Abbott.

    She is not being "barred" from standing. She is not currently being selected, as (at least so far) prospective MPs are being selected who are considered to be better than her. Now. Not in the past. Now.

    Politics is a lot like work life everywhere else. Suppose you get a new Boss. Some people take the opportunity to leave and publicly say why they don't like that new boss.

    Some people don't like the new Boss. But need to get paid. So just get on with their job, rather than voice their opinions. Which Bosses are normally fine with.

    Then there are people who think they can say whatever they like in the workplace. Believe that they are so good at their job that they are irreplaceable. They get replaced.

    Times change.
    Diane Abbot does not figure in an electable Labour Party.
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    Tories face being reduced to 66 seats, new poll suggests



    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/tories-face-being-reduced-66-220009650.html
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