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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,442
    Husband of ‘keyboard warrior’ who called for mosque to be blown up says jailing her ‘over the top’


    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/husband-keyboard-warrior-called-mosque-174151826.html
  • rabdenirorabdeniro Member Posts: 4,459
    What is two tier policing ?.

    Reading recent articles you would think it is a new phenomenon, ah read that ever since the soft policing of the Black Lives Matter (BLM) protests, the impression of two-tier policing has become widespread.

    It's always been here in this country, it's a class thing, a council house gets broken into the Polis say "we don't have the manpower to send anybody oot". M'lords mansion up the road gets screwed and there's more Polis than you could shake a stick at there within minutes.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,442
    Tikay10 said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Case of Lush looter delayed over claims he offered his autograph in prison




    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/case-lush-looter-delayed-over-152225205.html


    @HAYSIE



    That one is a complete wrong 'un.

    Hopefully he gets a long sentence & gets to share a cell with 3 Muslims.


    I really struggle to see ANY justification for looting shops. Team Right Wing can whinge & moan all they like, but it's just plain outright daylight robbery - literally. Nothing to do with Immigration at all.

    Rioter who looted Lush for bathbombs wearing England flag jailed for four years



    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/rioter-looted-lush-bathbombs-wearing-150316065.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,442
    edited August 17
    HAYSIE said:

    Tikay10 said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Case of Lush looter delayed over claims he offered his autograph in prison




    @HAYSIE



    That one is a complete wrong 'un.

    Hopefully he gets a long sentence & gets to share a cell with 3 Muslims.


    I really struggle to see ANY justification for looting shops. Team Right Wing can whinge & moan all they like, but it's just plain outright daylight robbery - literally. Nothing to do with Immigration at all.

    Rioter who looted Lush for bathbombs wearing England flag jailed for four years



    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/rioter-looted-lush-bathbombs-wearing-150316065.html
    ‘It’s sometimes right to disobey laws’: Doctor struck off for Insulate Britain protests speaks out


    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/sometimes-disobey-laws-doctor-struck-151521963.html
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,458
  • goldongoldon Member Posts: 9,141
    Don't think anyone wants to hear about the mistakes...... me finks !
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,442
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,845
    VespaPX said:
    That's the wonderful thing about statistics. You can slant them to suit your particular point of view. Which, in the case of the Daily Mail and a large section of its readership, is vile, racist, right wing b0ll0cks.

    As a lefty woke Liberal, let's use those same facts in a non-racist way.

    "Highest level of arrests since 2019/for 5 years"? Let's try some context. In 2020-no Carnival. 2021-no Carnival. 2022-scaled down Carnival. So-what the Mail really means is that, of about 1 million people this year, there were 300-odd arrests. 26 more than last year.

    Yes. There was a Murder in 2022. In the last 20 years, when approximately 20 million people have attended, there has been 1 murder. 1.

    Look at some of the arrests. Like the guy wanted for Murder in Hackney arrested on the way there. Without the Carnival, he may not have been arrested. And his crimes have nothing to do with the Carnival.

    Always take the words of a Police Federation chief with a pinch of salt. He speaks in place of a Trade Union leader for the middle and lower ranks of the Force. He's there to seek better pay and working conditions for his Members. Nowt wrong with that. But he is by virtue of his job bound to have a biased view. But nice to see you listen to the Police equivalent of Mick McGahey ;)
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,442
    Essexphil said:

    VespaPX said:
    That's the wonderful thing about statistics. You can slant them to suit your particular point of view. Which, in the case of the Daily Mail and a large section of its readership, is vile, racist, right wing b0ll0cks.

    As a lefty woke Liberal, let's use those same facts in a non-racist way.

    "Highest level of arrests since 2019/for 5 years"? Let's try some context. In 2020-no Carnival. 2021-no Carnival. 2022-scaled down Carnival. So-what the Mail really means is that, of about 1 million people this year, there were 300-odd arrests. 26 more than last year.

    Yes. There was a Murder in 2022. In the last 20 years, when approximately 20 million people have attended, there has been 1 murder. 1.

    Look at some of the arrests. Like the guy wanted for Murder in Hackney arrested on the way there. Without the Carnival, he may not have been arrested. And his crimes have nothing to do with the Carnival.

    Always take the words of a Police Federation chief with a pinch of salt. He speaks in place of a Trade Union leader for the middle and lower ranks of the Force. He's there to seek better pay and working conditions for his Members. Nowt wrong with that. But he is by virtue of his job bound to have a biased view. But nice to see you listen to the Police equivalent of Mick McGahey ;)
    Facts sometimes get in the way of headlines, and conspiracy theories.
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,458
    Will the courts be using emergency powers to fast track and prosecute ?


  • mumsiemumsie Member Posts: 8,104
    VespaPX said:

    Will the courts be using emergency powers to fast track and prosecute ?


    No.
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,845
    And absolutely no reason why there should be.

    This is not a co-ordinated attack on innocent groups, or the State. 40 or 50 years ago? Maybe. Just not now.

    Regular criminals. Treated in the normal way.

    Which, for the most serious ones in that list, merely means they will be in Prison for 2 years awaiting trial. Instead of 2 weeks.
  • lucy4lucy4 Member Posts: 8,109
    Attacked Nando's worker 'let down' by Met officers.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns6F2Q4ExnY

    A Nando's worker who was hit in the face with a plate by a male customer says she feels "grossly let down" by the Metropolitan Police after officers eating in the restaurant failed to challenge her attacker.

    Student Zahra, who did not want to give her last name, told BBC London she was assaulted on 10 March after a man complained about a highchair at the Stratford branch of Nando's in east London.

    She can be seen being hit by a man in restaurant CCTV footage later shared on social media.

    She said she went over to two Met officers who were in the restaurant, but they allowed the man to leave the scene. The force apologised and said the case had not been "progressed promptly by officers".

    'Thought I would be safe'

    Zahra claims she was initially verbally abused after telling a man he would need to move to a different table in order for his baby to use a high chair, due to the restaurant layout.

    She explained that after a manager became involved, the man, who was also accompanied by a woman, agreed to move.

    Zahra said she was hit the face with the plate when she later served food to their table, with the attack being caught on restaurant CCTV.

    "I was shocked. I couldn't register what happened, I couldn't process what had happened," Zahra said.

    "I remembered that there were two [police] officers already in the restaurant waiting for their food. I thought that I would be safe and that the police officers would deal with him, but that wasn't the case."

    Zahra said she alerted one of the officers - a female - who "didn't seem bothered" about the attack, and told her to speak to her male colleague.

    She claimed the male officer "took the man outside", but then let him go without taking any of his details or taking a statement and without checking the CCTV.

    While the male officer was talking to the man, Zahra said the female officer was "laughing and joking" with the woman and playing with the baby.

    "I was really disappointed and extremely upset by that," she said.

    Zahra said her manager later showed the officers the CCTV footage of the assault and the police "realised they made a mistake".

    Officers' response 'more concerning'

    Zahra's attacker has not been caught.

    Zahra says she filed a complaint to the Met Police a few days after the attack, but added she was allegedly told by the officers' supervisor "they're humans and they made a mistake at work, the same way you can make a mistake at work".

    Since the video of the CCTV footage was posted on social media, Zahra says she has received an apology from the Met Police, but feels "grossly let down by them", adding the officers' response felt "more concerning than the man's behaviour".

    "Violence against women is something that happens day in, day out, but it's up to the police to deal with that.

    "Especially an assault like that that was caught on camera. You would expect something to be done, but absolutely nothing was done," she said.

    She said following the assault, she had been "discouraged and gaslit into dropping the case".

    "I felt alone, like I had no-one to support me in that moment. I felt kind of hopeless, I felt extremely vulnerable."

    'Shocking and unprovoked attack'

    The Met Police said it was aware of the CCTV footage of the attack.

    "A report of assault was made to police at the time of the incident, however, it appears this was not progressed promptly by officers.

    "We are working to establish why this happened and accept this is not the level of service Londoners should rightfully expect from the Met.

    "We have since made contact with the victim and a statement has been taken - we will endeavour to keep her updated with the progress of this investigation."

    A Nando's spokesperson said: “This was a shocking and unprovoked attack earlier this year.

    "We reported it to the police immediately and have supported our colleague since.

    "We will not tolerate this kind of behaviour, the safety of our colleagues and customers is our priority.”

    https://x.com/BBCLondonNews/status/1828859426784034850
  • lucy4lucy4 Member Posts: 8,109
    Mother and chef die days after Notting Hill Carnival attacks.

    Cher Maximen, 32, and Mussie Imnetu, 41, die after being attacked in separate incidents at Notting Hill Carnival over the bank holiday weekend.

    Two people have died after being attacked in separate incidents during Notting Hill Carnival over the bank holiday weekend.

    Cher Maximen, 32, was at the event last Sunday with her child when she was stabbed. She died on Saturday morning.



    Police said officers gave emergency treatment to Ms Maximen until paramedics arrived. She was then taken to hospital in a critical condition.

    "Cher was at carnival with her young child," Detective Chief Inspector Alex Gammampila, of the Met's Homicide Command, said.

    Mussie Imnetu, who was visiting the UK on business, was attacked in a separate incident.



    The 41-year-old chef, a Swedish national who lived and worked in Dubai, was found unconscious with a head injury in Queensway, on Monday evening.

    Mr Imnetu, who previously worked under celebrity chefs Gordon Ramsay and Marcus Wareing, leaves behind an eight-year-old son.

    Shakiel Thibou, 20, was arrested on Tuesday and charged with the attempted murder of Ms Maximen. He has been remanded in custody.

    Omar Wilson, 31, has been charged with causing Mr Imnetu grievous bodily harm with intent and remanded in custody.
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,458
    If the levels of criminality happened at any other annual event, it would be shut down.
  • lucy4lucy4 Member Posts: 8,109
    WTF is going on in this country when you've got kids killing people.

    Children held over fatal attack on dog walker, 80.

    Five children have been arrested on suspicion of murder following the death of an 80-year-old man who was attacked in a park.

    Bhim Kohli died in hospital after being assaulted while walking his dog at Franklin Park, in Braunstone Town, Leicestershire, on Sunday evening.

    Leicestershire Police said a boy and a girl, both aged 14, and another boy and two girls aged 12, were in custody.

    Officers have appealed for witnesses to come forward.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1l5y5nge31o
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