Another sick horrible crime ruined a wee lassies life Should be hung and she should get to pull the handle But the punishment will be light and no where near enough Hang them save tax payers money no excuses if they committed the crime Pay for it .. and for things like that ,, rape as well and all these things that identify as god knows what using woman’s toilets basically violates woman’s spaces .. or as an easier way to do there perverse things .. That is just not on … Never .. Hopefully there’s never one walks in to one a woman’s toilet that is when ma lassie or misses is in it A know one thing walking back out won’t be an option No words no warning just actions Cause if you can’t look out for them !!! Police a joke only turn up after the event nae good once it’s happened it’s up to yourselves to stop it happening to yours .. sad state off affairs
what the **** are you on about just more hate? I can understand the hatred for rapists and those that throw acid on womens faces but your practically putting trans people in the same category.
You refer to them as these things that identify as god knows what. Okay I really have disdain for that, Trans people are people to no need to dehumanise them call for their exercution and put them in the same category as rapists.
I am not trans neither is my partner so I dont have direct skin the game, However I know full well the pain of feeling ashamed of your true self and what is in your very nature. feeling you have to be different to that to conform to society and knowing people hate what you are for no actual good reason.
Trans people competing in sports and using womens bathrooms are controversial issues that can be debated either side and I dont claim to have the answer or know which side I am on, for either of those issues.
However most people should know that vast majority of Trans people who may use what you deem to be the wrong bathroom are not going in their with the nefarious motive of raping women they just identify as a female and thus feel more comfortable using the female bathroom.
Just wanted to mention. You do. So do all Jewish people.
Hitler did not rise to power on an anti-Jewish ticket. That came later. He started by attacking what would now be termed the Trans Community.
fair point I guess where I was coming from is that usually when you speak up for a group been discriminated against people naturally assume you belong to that group. When I have spoken out against antisemitism people sometimes just smile an arrogant smile and go oh are you Jewish.
Woman’s bathroom woman’s space not anything else simple If they have to create another bathroom so be it but woman’s bathroom has to be woman only
you know I once knew a Chinese lady who I thought was a guy it wasn't just me everyone thought they were a guy. I was shocked once I found out and so were others they regularly got attacked for using the ladies toilets despite the fact they were a lady. I have known a few people who look like the opposite gender it happens its rare but it happens.
Regardless of your position advocating for attacking Trans Gender people who use what you deem to be the wrong bathroom also means that people who are actually what you deem to be the correct biological sex for that bathroom will be attacked as well.
it also seems telling that you dont apologise or try to recontextualize what you say you just double and triple down on it.
We currently have a potential nuclear war on the horizon, a major cost of living crises pushing many into deprivation, climate change running away and threatening the future of this planet. and religious fundamentalism fully resurfacing and becoming a threat to the future of the planet. Btw I am not just referring to Islamic fundamentalism which is a major deal, its also fundamentalist Christianity too.
However what really matters is focusing on hating a tiny minority of people who identify as a different gender to what you think they should because you believe it is all just a conspiracy to get access to and rape women.
Okay maybe you need to change your priorities in live.
Man 'stabbed twice' in Hanley fight as hero by-standers intervene.
Shoppers have told how a man has been 'stabbed twice' in a city centre fight. The violence erupted on Upper Market Square, in Hanley.
It involved two men before hero by-standers managed to separate the pair. The drama unfolded just after 11am Saturday.
Now Staffordshire Police have cordoned off part of Upper Market Square outside Halifax and KFC.
One shopper has told how he attempted to break up the fight. He was joined by a representative from Stoke-on-Trent City Centre Business Improvement District (BID).
He said: “There was a man with his girlfriend. Another man stabbed him twice. The man who was stabbed then hit the other man a few times. I was trying to separate them. A Stoke-on-Trent BID man grabbed hold of one of the men."
Market trader Kelvin Yu is aware that one of the men had a knife.
The 64-year-old said: “Two men were fighting. I did not see the knife at the time but I know one of them had a knife when the police came.”
The incident has left some shoppers feeling unsafe in Hanley.
Man 'stabbed twice' in Hanley fight as hero by-standers intervene.
Shoppers have told how a man has been 'stabbed twice' in a city centre fight. The violence erupted on Upper Market Square, in Hanley.
It involved two men before hero by-standers managed to separate the pair. The drama unfolded just after 11am Saturday.
Now Staffordshire Police have cordoned off part of Upper Market Square outside Halifax and KFC.
One shopper has told how he attempted to break up the fight. He was joined by a representative from Stoke-on-Trent City Centre Business Improvement District (BID).
He said: “There was a man with his girlfriend. Another man stabbed him twice. The man who was stabbed then hit the other man a few times. I was trying to separate them. A Stoke-on-Trent BID man grabbed hold of one of the men."
Market trader Kelvin Yu is aware that one of the men had a knife.
The 64-year-old said: “Two men were fighting. I did not see the knife at the time but I know one of them had a knife when the police came.”
The incident has left some shoppers feeling unsafe in Hanley.
Man 'stabbed twice' in Hanley fight as hero by-standers intervene.
Shoppers have told how a man has been 'stabbed twice' in a city centre fight. The violence erupted on Upper Market Square, in Hanley.
It involved two men before hero by-standers managed to separate the pair. The drama unfolded just after 11am Saturday.
Now Staffordshire Police have cordoned off part of Upper Market Square outside Halifax and KFC.
One shopper has told how he attempted to break up the fight. He was joined by a representative from Stoke-on-Trent City Centre Business Improvement District (BID).
He said: “There was a man with his girlfriend. Another man stabbed him twice. The man who was stabbed then hit the other man a few times. I was trying to separate them. A Stoke-on-Trent BID man grabbed hold of one of the men."
Market trader Kelvin Yu is aware that one of the men had a knife.
The 64-year-old said: “Two men were fighting. I did not see the knife at the time but I know one of them had a knife when the police came.”
The incident has left some shoppers feeling unsafe in Hanley.
Man 'stabbed twice' in Hanley fight as hero by-standers intervene.
Shoppers have told how a man has been 'stabbed twice' in a city centre fight. The violence erupted on Upper Market Square, in Hanley.
It involved two men before hero by-standers managed to separate the pair. The drama unfolded just after 11am Saturday.
Now Staffordshire Police have cordoned off part of Upper Market Square outside Halifax and KFC.
One shopper has told how he attempted to break up the fight. He was joined by a representative from Stoke-on-Trent City Centre Business Improvement District (BID).
He said: “There was a man with his girlfriend. Another man stabbed him twice. The man who was stabbed then hit the other man a few times. I was trying to separate them. A Stoke-on-Trent BID man grabbed hold of one of the men."
Market trader Kelvin Yu is aware that one of the men had a knife.
The 64-year-old said: “Two men were fighting. I did not see the knife at the time but I know one of them had a knife when the police came.”
The incident has left some shoppers feeling unsafe in Hanley.
Man 'stabbed twice' in Hanley fight as hero by-standers intervene.
Shoppers have told how a man has been 'stabbed twice' in a city centre fight. The violence erupted on Upper Market Square, in Hanley.
It involved two men before hero by-standers managed to separate the pair. The drama unfolded just after 11am Saturday.
Now Staffordshire Police have cordoned off part of Upper Market Square outside Halifax and KFC.
One shopper has told how he attempted to break up the fight. He was joined by a representative from Stoke-on-Trent City Centre Business Improvement District (BID).
He said: “There was a man with his girlfriend. Another man stabbed him twice. The man who was stabbed then hit the other man a few times. I was trying to separate them. A Stoke-on-Trent BID man grabbed hold of one of the men."
Market trader Kelvin Yu is aware that one of the men had a knife.
The 64-year-old said: “Two men were fighting. I did not see the knife at the time but I know one of them had a knife when the police came.”
The incident has left some shoppers feeling unsafe in Hanley.
It’s called British standard's , and you’re 1/ 2 percent that’s causing all the others the problems unfortunately.. most are harmless and can’t help being like that .. then there’s the ones that use that group as cover to do bad things.. This one happened in my local Asda. To a wee lassie to do with a hairy lady and no 4 year old wee girl should ever come running out a toilet screaming there’s a hairy lady standing pee ing with the door open and am afraid to say there’s too much off it happening .. Doing things like that is asking for it … and no wee yin should have to see that in a Woman’s toilet .. ever .. end off … that’s just not right … This woke stuff going to far and needs sorting out especially the bathroom/ toilet side off it .. lots off parents getting fed up with the public toilets carry on .. so something needs done .. another toilet for starters might help a bit .. there’s a lot more needing done to accommodate that community…
Man 'stabbed twice' in Hanley fight as hero by-standers intervene.
Shoppers have told how a man has been 'stabbed twice' in a city centre fight. The violence erupted on Upper Market Square, in Hanley.
It involved two men before hero by-standers managed to separate the pair. The drama unfolded just after 11am Saturday.
Now Staffordshire Police have cordoned off part of Upper Market Square outside Halifax and KFC.
One shopper has told how he attempted to break up the fight. He was joined by a representative from Stoke-on-Trent City Centre Business Improvement District (BID).
He said: “There was a man with his girlfriend. Another man stabbed him twice. The man who was stabbed then hit the other man a few times. I was trying to separate them. A Stoke-on-Trent BID man grabbed hold of one of the men."
Market trader Kelvin Yu is aware that one of the men had a knife.
The 64-year-old said: “Two men were fighting. I did not see the knife at the time but I know one of them had a knife when the police came.”
The incident has left some shoppers feeling unsafe in Hanley.
It’s called British standard's , and you’re 1/ 2 percent that’s causing all the others the problems unfortunately.. most are harmless and can’t help being like that .. then there’s the ones that use that group as cover to do bad things.. This one happened in my local Asda. To a wee lassie to do with a hairy lady and no 4 year old wee girl should ever come running out a toilet screaming there’s a hairy lady standing pee ing with the door open and am afraid to say there’s too much off it happening .. Doing things like that is asking for it … and no wee yin should have to see that in a Woman’s toilet .. ever .. end off … that’s just not right … This woke stuff going to far and needs sorting out especially the bathroom/ toilet side off it .. lots off parents getting fed up with the public toilets carry on .. so something needs done .. another toilet for starters might help a bit .. there’s a lot more needing done to accommodate that community…
How many times have I heard that story? And has it ever been true?
Let's start with some practical stuff. When my now 24 year old son was my 4 year old son, I would always be with him in a Supermarket toilet. Like any responsible parent. And when my now-23 year old son was my 4 year old daughter my wife would be with her/him.
People use the Ladies primarily for safety and privacy. Simply because, in the Ladies, people should be doing that sort of thing with the door closed. Simply because 4-year-olds shouldn't be seeing anyone doing that sort of thing. Whether they are "hairy" or not. That is the key here.
It's always happened. As well as trans people, there are transvestites-if you are a bloke who happens to wear women's clothing, fancy your chances in the Gents? Then there's the ones caught short-there are often queues at the Gents but not the Ladies. And those are the very people who don't realise how important it is to close the door. And make a really stupid mistake. That's always happened. And yet never got mentioned in the way that happens now.
I'll tell you what "British standards" are. Tolerance. Understanding. Try it.
The answer must be toilets for everyone … So women don’t feel intimidated in the ladies the same way they folks do in the men’s .. its a hard situation to solve .. and it’s happening a lot more these days .. sometimes it’s difficult for dad to take a wee lass to the toilets as he can’t take her in the men’s and can’t accompany her in the ladies.. just an example… but something must be done for them all so less off these situations arise.. even if it’s just single toilets for everyone to use , it might be the answer .. then they’re just toilets … for everyone to use.. might be a stupid solution.. but although a very simple solution it might stop silly mistakes which 99.9 percent are …
The answer must be toilets for everyone … So women don’t feel intimidated in the ladies the same way they folks do in the men’s .. its a hard situation to solve .. and it’s happening a lot more these days .. sometimes it’s difficult for dad to take a wee lass to the toilets as he can’t take her in the men’s and can’t accompany her in the ladies.. just an example… but something must be done for them all so less off these situations arise.. even if it’s just single toilets for everyone to use , it might be the answer .. then they’re just toilets … for everyone to use.. might be a stupid solution.. but although a very simple solution it might stop silly mistakes which 99.9 percent are …
you really do have a total obsession with toilets and trans dont you? I think I saw you out and about recently is this you?
seriously though this issue isnt anywhere near as bigger issue as your making it out to be its just you come from a place of hate so you have to blow it up
Av got an obsession , no just right fae wrong especially to do with kids being caught up in it .. you must think kids should have to see that !! Your wrong .. nuclear weapons is your obsession And trying to pick arguments mainly wi me .. just so you know people are allowed to an opinion If you don’t like it that’s your problem and as for knowing what I think about it .. you’ve no clue don’t make assumptions little boy .. your arrogance .. will bring you trouble.. your no better than anyone else even though you seem to think so .. so don’t tell me what I hate or what I don’t .. you don’t know…
The Ladies don't like using Toilet cubicles Men use, because we pee on the seat urinate on the floor, don't flush after us. We are disgusting pigs & they'd be right. cough!!
Let's have a bit of calm, please. It's an important subject. That needs calm debate. Or it gets shut down. And that's not directed at just 1 of you (and including me).
You both make valid points. Unlike either of you, I have personal knowledge of various of the sort of stuff.
So-for example-let's start by saying what I agree with. It's so important to give just as much thought to what you agree with. Rather than just fixating where there is disagreement.
Let's start with 2 things that @legascaac said they I completely agree with. Firstly, the difficulty of 1 parent at (say) a Supermarket when your child of the opposite gender needs the loo. Been there-it's a tricky one. When the child is (say) 1 or 2, it is simpler. The daughter goes with you to the Gents, or the Son goes with his Mum to the Ladies. But when the child gets to about 4, it is trickier. No easy answer-tried standing outside the Ladies, or begging a stranger to help. There's no easy answer.
Then-and perhaps more importantly-there is the child protection angle. No-one wants a young child exposed to various inappropriate stuff.
Them, let's turn to @Doubleme He is right to say that issue has suddenly been blown out of all proportion. That's not to say that there are never genuine concerns. But there is a lot of stuff that is not genuine.
Let's go back to the "hairy lady" story. Because that 1 does the rounds. A lot.
Looking at the family of the 4-yr-old is often (not always) illuminating. Simply because the young daughter (and note how it is always a daughter, never a son) tends not to have the same "dad dilemma" we discussed above. They usually have 2 Mums. Who just happen to be TERFs (Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminists). Somewhat surprising that the 1 (tiny) group who hate Trans people happen to always be the people who report this.
There is never the story in reverse. It is always some Trans person leaving a door open in the ladies. Never anything in the Gents. Believe me, if I see someone next to me in a Urinal using a She-Wee I would freak. But it never happens. Likewise, it's never a bloke who just used the wrong loo. Or a Transvestite. Or someone that you are not quite sure about who takes care to mind their own business and not cause offence.
Trans people are just like everyone else. In the sense that the vast majority are decent, ordinary (and often slightly dull!) people.
I don't care whether someone is straight or otherwise. I don't want anyone putting kids in peril. Just like I despise rapists who suddenly pretend they are Trans to try and gain an advantage.
But a lot of this is people using kids to try and whip up hatred.
Yeah men do make a mess and don't clean up .. not nice for ladies .. that's just one thing that puts the single toilet thing out the window .. sadly the bad yins are using that community in general as cover .. sad really as most are quiet folk . that are not a danger to anyone. its a shame .. but am willing to bet , not that i would know they want it sorted out better as well . DIFFICULT TO DO . but there's got to be a way so everyone feels safe kids , woman , men , LGBTQ , everyone . getting there is the problem that needs sorting/solved ..
Ah wee quick aside, Quite a few years ago when ah knew ah was needing glasses ( but kept putting it off ) ah was waiting for ma wife outside Morrisons, she was doin some shopping when all of a sudden ah needed the toilet, quickly, so ah bolts into the shop and ask an assistant where the loos are, she points them oot for me so off ah go, ah see a man coming oot ( or what ah thought was a man ) the loo, straight in to the traps (relief ). So am sittin doon minding ma own buisness when ah thought ah heard a pair heels walking by the door, next minute ah could here these women gabbin away, am thinking **** I've went in to the womens loo. So am sitting thinking, what do ah do, it just seemed to get buisier with the door getting tried a few times. About an hour later am still sitting there the wife phones me asking where ah am, whispering to her that am in the womens toilet she's like " why are you whispering " and " what are you talking about " so ah switch the phone off. Hawf an hour later ah decide am just goin to bolt oot the cubicle as fast as ah can, lucklily no one else was there. Ah spent the next hour trying to explain to the wife what happened with a very red face.
Ah wee quick aside, Quite a few years ago when ah knew ah was needing glasses ( but kept putting it off ) ah was waiting for ma wife outside Morrisons, she was doin some shopping when all of a sudden ah needed the toilet, quickly, so ah bolts into the shop and ask an assistant where the loos are, she points them oot for me so off ah go, ah see a man coming oot ( or what ah thought was a man ) the loo, straight in to the traps (relief ). So am sittin doon minding ma own buisness when ah thought ah heard a pair heels walking by the door, next minute ah could here these women gabbin away, am thinking **** I've went in to the womens loo. So am sitting thinking, what do ah do, it just seemed to get buisier with the door getting tried a few times. About an hour later am still sitting there the wife phones me asking where ah am, whispering to her that am in the womens toilet she's like " why are you whispering " and " what are you talking about " so ah switch the phone off. Hawf an hour later ah decide am just goin to bolt oot the cubicle as fast as ah can, lucklily no one else was there. Ah spent the next hour trying to explain to the wife what happened with a very red face.
We've all done it.
And I would like to point out that I most definitely did not do that at the 235 Casino at an SPT
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If they have to create another bathroom so be it but woman’s bathroom has to be woman only
I have known a few people who look like the opposite gender it happens its rare but it happens.
Regardless of your position advocating for attacking Trans Gender people who use what you deem to be the wrong bathroom also means that people who are actually what you deem to be the correct biological sex for that bathroom will be attacked as well.
it also seems telling that you dont apologise or try to recontextualize what you say you just double and triple down on it.
We currently have a potential nuclear war on the horizon, a major cost of living crises pushing many into deprivation, climate change running away and threatening the future of this planet. and religious fundamentalism fully resurfacing and becoming a threat to the future of the planet. Btw I am not just referring to Islamic fundamentalism which is a major deal, its also fundamentalist Christianity too.
However what really matters is focusing on hating a tiny minority of people who identify as a different gender to what you think they should because you believe it is all just a conspiracy to get access to and rape women.
Okay maybe you need to change your priorities in live.
Shoppers have told how a man has been 'stabbed twice' in a city centre fight. The violence erupted on Upper Market Square, in Hanley.
It involved two men before hero by-standers managed to separate the pair. The drama unfolded just after 11am Saturday.
Now Staffordshire Police have cordoned off part of Upper Market Square outside Halifax and KFC.
One shopper has told how he attempted to break up the fight. He was joined by a representative from Stoke-on-Trent City Centre Business Improvement District (BID).
He said: “There was a man with his girlfriend. Another man stabbed him twice. The man who was stabbed then hit the other man a few times. I was trying to separate them. A Stoke-on-Trent BID man grabbed hold of one of the men."
Market trader Kelvin Yu is aware that one of the men had a knife.
The 64-year-old said: “Two men were fighting. I did not see the knife at the time but I know one of them had a knife when the police came.”
The incident has left some shoppers feeling unsafe in Hanley.
https://x.com/billymooreAPBD/status/1845367752334201116
Bring back the cane, strap, ruler, chalk missile. hic!
This one happened in my local Asda. To a wee lassie to do with a hairy lady
and no 4 year old wee girl should ever come running out a toilet screaming there’s a hairy lady standing pee ing with the door open and am afraid to say there’s too much off it happening ..
Doing things like that is asking for it … and no wee yin should have to see that in a Woman’s toilet .. ever ..
end off … that’s just not right … This woke stuff going to far and needs sorting out especially the bathroom/ toilet side off it ..
lots off parents getting fed up with the public toilets carry on .. so something needs done .. another toilet for starters might help a bit .. there’s a lot more needing done to accommodate that community…
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What's up with people , sorry state of affairs
Let's start with some practical stuff. When my now 24 year old son was my 4 year old son, I would always be with him in a Supermarket toilet. Like any responsible parent. And when my now-23 year old son was my 4 year old daughter my wife would be with her/him.
People use the Ladies primarily for safety and privacy. Simply because, in the Ladies, people should be doing that sort of thing with the door closed. Simply because 4-year-olds shouldn't be seeing anyone doing that sort of thing. Whether they are "hairy" or not. That is the key here.
It's always happened. As well as trans people, there are transvestites-if you are a bloke who happens to wear women's clothing, fancy your chances in the Gents? Then there's the ones caught short-there are often queues at the Gents but not the Ladies. And those are the very people who don't realise how important it is to close the door. And make a really stupid mistake. That's always happened. And yet never got mentioned in the way that happens now.
I'll tell you what "British standards" are. Tolerance. Understanding. Try it.
So women don’t feel intimidated in the ladies the same way they folks do in the men’s .. its a hard situation to solve ..
and it’s happening a lot more these days .. sometimes it’s difficult for dad to take a wee lass to the toilets as he can’t take her in the men’s and can’t accompany her in the ladies.. just an example… but something must be done for them all so less off these situations arise.. even if it’s just single toilets for everyone to use , it might be the answer .. then they’re just toilets … for everyone to use.. might be a stupid solution.. but although a very simple solution it might stop silly mistakes which 99.9 percent are …
seriously though this issue isnt anywhere near as bigger issue as your making it out to be its just you come from a place of hate so you have to blow it up
Your wrong ..
nuclear weapons is your obsession
And trying to pick arguments mainly wi me .. just so you know people are allowed to an opinion
If you don’t like it that’s your problem
and as for knowing what I think about it .. you’ve no clue don’t make assumptions little boy .. your arrogance .. will bring you trouble.. your no better than anyone else even though you seem to think so .. so don’t tell me what I hate or what I don’t .. you don’t know…
You both make valid points. Unlike either of you, I have personal knowledge of various of the sort of stuff.
So-for example-let's start by saying what I agree with. It's so important to give just as much thought to what you agree with. Rather than just fixating where there is disagreement.
Let's start with 2 things that @legascaac said they I completely agree with. Firstly, the difficulty of 1 parent at (say) a Supermarket when your child of the opposite gender needs the loo. Been there-it's a tricky one. When the child is (say) 1 or 2, it is simpler. The daughter goes with you to the Gents, or the Son goes with his Mum to the Ladies. But when the child gets to about 4, it is trickier. No easy answer-tried standing outside the Ladies, or begging a stranger to help. There's no easy answer.
Then-and perhaps more importantly-there is the child protection angle. No-one wants a young child exposed to various inappropriate stuff.
Them, let's turn to @Doubleme He is right to say that issue has suddenly been blown out of all proportion. That's not to say that there are never genuine concerns. But there is a lot of stuff that is not genuine.
Let's go back to the "hairy lady" story. Because that 1 does the rounds. A lot.
Looking at the family of the 4-yr-old is often (not always) illuminating. Simply because the young daughter (and note how it is always a daughter, never a son) tends not to have the same "dad dilemma" we discussed above. They usually have 2 Mums. Who just happen to be TERFs (Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminists). Somewhat surprising that the 1 (tiny) group who hate Trans people happen to always be the people who report this.
There is never the story in reverse. It is always some Trans person leaving a door open in the ladies. Never anything in the Gents. Believe me, if I see someone next to me in a Urinal using a She-Wee I would freak. But it never happens. Likewise, it's never a bloke who just used the wrong loo. Or a Transvestite. Or someone that you are not quite sure about who takes care to mind their own business and not cause offence.
Trans people are just like everyone else. In the sense that the vast majority are decent, ordinary (and often slightly dull!) people.
I don't care whether someone is straight or otherwise. I don't want anyone putting kids in peril. Just like I despise rapists who suddenly pretend they are Trans to try and gain an advantage.
But a lot of this is people using kids to try and whip up hatred.
So am sittin doon minding ma own buisness when ah thought ah heard a pair heels walking by the door, next minute ah could here these women gabbin away, am thinking **** I've went in to the womens loo.
So am sitting thinking, what do ah do, it just seemed to get buisier with the door getting tried a few times.
About an hour later am still sitting there the wife phones me asking where ah am, whispering to her that am in the womens toilet she's like " why are you whispering " and " what are you talking about " so ah switch the phone off.
Hawf an hour later ah decide am just goin to bolt oot the cubicle as fast as ah can, lucklily no one else was there.
Ah spent the next hour trying to explain to the wife what happened with a very red face.
And I would like to point out that I most definitely did not do that at the 235 Casino at an SPT