maybe you should drink copious amounts of alcohol when playing don. it numbs the pain of bad beats (and bad play) lost the same amount of bis than you did last night(and a bit more money),but i went to bed giggling last night knowing i played like a plonker. go watch the news and see them poor miners familys and mate it puts a few losses in poker right back into perspective! Posted by pod1
Schadenfreude is pleasure derived from the misfortunes of others. This doesn't have to be purely malicious it can also be comparative. Try to take every precaution not to slip into a moral malaise Pod1 I drank a bottle of wine last night and tried out my first mting in mini view with tiling. Struggled with the format but after 2 hrs was about 40p up and earned 100 pts at nl4. See you in Rio I thought it was a good session as i didn't run well at all. Useful experience tho. My eyesight isn't brilliant and to see all the tables at same time is a bit mad. Can't help but reviewing others play on other tables whilst playing hands/ timing out on another. Must focus !!! It's so much easier playing 8 on UB than 4 on here. Like everything it takes getting used to i guess. How long did it take you Pod1 ? Plus i can't play UB anymore i wonder if i'll ever get my money or whether they will reinstate rakeback ? At least i didn't have anything at FT and i'm not in a miners family i suppose
Don get a grip lol This happens in poker against bad players, guy called my AK 4 bet shove with 65s and hit two pr.
Our job is not to wonder why these players call wide and light but just to take advantage when they don't hit so golden, which is more often than not.
We want these players to call light and wide every single day of the week.
Hand just played as I'am typing this - variance Don variance If the hand played out another way on the flop I am sure all the money would be in the middle But I kinda lost the minimum _)
In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary : i just want to help here as i think the math is wrong, the percentage the vilain has (67) to win from the flop to river is about 21%, from turn to river he picks up a few outs so his new percentage is 26% but this is irrelivant to the hand as it went all in on the flop. so oppo will only win from flop to river about 1 in 5 times. don bets pot on the flop and the oppo is offered 2-1 odds 33% so he is getting a terrible price to call with only 21% equity, but the oppo shoves (bad but not as bad as calling) .... so math is irrelivant here from dons perspective as he has to snap call. i hope this helps, im at work so no poker stove, me thinks thats right Posted by WHOAMI196
Hmmm i could be wrong but on hand 1, he has 8 outs, 9c 9d 9s 9h, 4c 4d 4s, 4h, so to calculate the odds you get 8 and times it by 4 :S dont you, making 32% he only needs to hit 1 of the cards to finish his straight xD
Don get a grip lol This happens in poker against bad players, guy called my AK 4 bet shove with 65s and hit two pr. Our job is not to wonder why these players call wide and light but just to take advantage when they don't hit so golden, which is more often than not. We want these players to call light and wide every single day of the week. Hand just played as I'am typing this - variance Don variance If the hand played out another way on the flop I am sure all the money would be in the middle But I kinda lost the minimum _) Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance twist15931 Small blind £0.02 £0.02 £1.96 GHOST78 Big blind £0.04 £0.06 £1.88 Your hole cards A A alllgood27 Fold rancid Raise £0.20 £0.26 £1.66 saltz Fold twist15931 Fold GHOST78 Call £0.16 £0.42 £1.72 Flop 3 9 Q GHOST78 Check rancid Check Turn Q GHOST78 Check rancid Check River 7 GHOST78 Bet £0.21 £0.63 £1.51 rancid Call £0.21 £0.84 £1.45 GHOST78 Show K Q rancid Muck A A GHOST78 Win Three Queens £0.77 £2.28 Posted by rancid
:O:O:O:O:O:O
Just fainted.
Give me half a good reason why you wouldn't bet this flop!!!!
In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary : :O:O:O:O:O:O Just fainted. Give me half a good reason why you wouldn't bet this flop!!!! Posted by DOHHHHHHH
Passive i know but flop is not a worry and I want him to catch up a little not my normal line but hey ho If he bets flop money is all in, but tbh when he bets on the end he can only be betting queen or bluff, no point in raising he conly calling with a queen. Plus I am short stacking as there all short so, need him to commit before I stack him rarther than the other way round, kinda works playing short stack tables at this hour of the day
In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary : Hmmm i could be wrong but on hand 1, he has 8 outs, 9c 9d 9s 9h, 4c 4d 4s, 4h, so to calculate the odds you get 8 and times it by 4 :S dont you, making 32% he only needs to hit 1 of the cards to finish his straight xD Posted by sillymunch
soz bud i though you were on about the kk hand, i am blind in one ear lol.. .
i dont see the connection between what i said and "schadenfreude" black mass. how can anyone gain pleasure from losing in poker when put along side a tragedy like that! they are both painful things ,both negitive. i have 2 young children who fight and scream over trivial things.to them it is important, to adults its trivial. its all perspective. don knows he has a problem with tiltin, he is a very good poker player as you know,but until he gets past this hurdle moving up is not an option.some people need kid gloves, some need an iron fist and some just need things put in context.
In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary: [QUOTE]i dont see the connection between what i said and "schadenfreude" black mass. how can anyone gain pleasure from losing in poker when put along side a tragedy like that! they are both painful things ,both negitive. i have 2 young children who fight and scream over trivial things.to them it is important, to adults its trivial. its all perspective. don knows he has a problem with tiltin, he is a very good poker player as you know,but until he gets past this hurdle moving up is not an option.some people need kid gloves, some need an iron fist and some just need things put in context. Posted by pod1
It's if a person says that they should be happy as their problems are not as bad as others that's all man. Relatively speaking they are taking pleasure from other peoples misfortunes. Just semantics. No trouble. The_Don90 does have tilt issues. I think though this has much to do with his expectations, which will change with experience. He needs to get the experience first tho which he threatens to hijack thru quitting fairly regularly. For most people losing provides that experience. The problems i had when i started playing i had to sort out in my head on my own with no forums, gurus like Dohhhh etc. I was motivated by the fact that i deeply resented the fact that i was naive and being exploited. I wasn't going to let those ****€r$ make me re-deposit. I didn't give up and soon turned it around to force regs to do what i wanted instead. Then i was a reg. My determination level was 100% no messing. I am a very harsh critic of myself too. I'd sit down for 14 hrs str8. Day in, day out. There is a lot to be said for the 10,000 hour idea. In some ways the diary might put pressure on The_Don90. Maybe he thinks that people want to read stories of him winning 10 bi's every day because he's a winner and his opponents are all fish. It isn't like that at all. I'm not certain if he should drink and play too. The reason i stay at lo stakes is because i drink a lot and play. I like it that way. But i have drank a lot for a long time. That takes practise too. Is Don like early 20's or something ? He needs to experiment with changing a few things maybe ? Like attitude ?
you know i love your posts blackmass, please dont think i was being rude with my replay. i tread heavily among the words of the english language unlike yourself who dance light footed. i read once that "your perception is your reality" and if don perceives "losing sessions" as being "i am a losing player" then he is going to become frustrated, angry and ultimately disillusioned and disheartened. there has to be a break between results and emotion. tiger woods said 1 bad shot doesn't make a bad round and that attitude i think is what don needs in his poker life.
you know i love your posts blackmass, please dont think i was being rude with my replay. i tread heavily among the words of the english language unlike yourself who dance light footed. i read once that "your perception is your reality" and if don perceives "losing sessions" as being "i am a losing player" then he is going to become frustrated, angry and ultimately disillusioned and disheartened. there has to be a break between results and emotion. tiger woods said 1 bad shot doesn't make a bad round and that attitude i think is what don needs in his poker life. Posted by pod1
No lol. Maybe i was ambiguous. My bad, apologies. The trouble is because of this diary i want Don to succeed. Everybody does. We've invested hours of reading, opinions, technical data, motivation etc. etc. It's an human interest story as much as anything else. That may create the illusion of pressure in Don's mind. Like now lol talking about him in the third person in his own diary. Sick. The effects of the game that we all feel do appear amplified in his mind tho. I hope he fires up a table less and just plays and relaxes trying to make simple decisions correctly. As an aside it's interesting to hear of your drinking. Am i right in thinking you get mashed up at nl 50 ? Jeez you hardcore man. If my gf reads this she'll make me try to upstakes cos i won't have the pi55head excuse anymore. Danger ! You must be pretty good.
not good,trust me. but i do go into the game with a different attitude to dons. yes winning is very very important,it allows us to carry on playing this wonderful game,but not to the point where i dont enjoy it. my problem is i play well up to the end of the 2nd bottle of red ,its the 3rd that gets me into trouble. put a few hands together in clinic last night whilst playing slightly over intoxicated, as you can tell by some of the comments in the hands i knew i should come off but hand on my heart,i was enjoying myself,its 2 bis at nl30 and another in red wine,lets be honest we have all spent much more than that on a friday night out and had a lot less fun. this is why i struggle to see why people can get so stressed about losing £10 playing for a few hrs at nl4. sorry for hijacking your post don,but hopefully you can see another side of dealing with losing at poker. last night you paid to get into a night club, music was cr ap and you didnt pull and it cost you a tenner,but it was still "entertaining"
not good,trust me. but i do go into the game with a different attitude to dons. yes winning is very very important,it allows us to carry on playing this wonderful game,but not to the point where i dont enjoy it. my problem is i play well up to the end of the 2nd bottle of red ,its the 3rd that gets me into trouble. put a few hands together in clinic last night whilst playing slightly over intoxicated, as you can tell by some of the comments in the hands i knew i should come off but hand on my heart,i was enjoying myself,its 2 bis at nl30 and another in red wine,lets be honest we have all spent much more than that on a friday night out and had a lot less fun. this is why i struggle to see why people can get so stressed about losing £10 playing for a few hrs at nl4. sorry for hijacking your post don,but hopefully you can see another side of dealing with losing at poker. last night you paid to get into a night club, music was cr ap and you didnt pull and it cost you a tenner,but it was still "entertaining" Posted by pod1
Christ man thanx for that ! We maybe separated in poker talent but we have parity of drinking .3 bottles of red, classic. My gf says i am an alcoholic but she's just a bigot because she comes from a non-alcohol background I really need to stop typing now and grind so i can go upstakes and play drunk poker at a higher level. If you can do it profitably then there's no reason i can't. Thanks for your encouragement man, MUCH appreciated !!!! I am str8 up here man. I just got so accomplished at micro UB that i could drink anything and still play profitably. Just assumed it wouldn't work at higher levels. You are a role model now outside of parenting. Cheers ! And have a great night ! ( I'm gonna get coolered now, such is karma. Won't stop me ! ).
Don get a grip lol This happens in poker against bad players, guy called my AK 4 bet shove with 65s and hit two pr. Our job is not to wonder why these players call wide and light but just to take advantage when they don't hit so golden, which is more often than not. We want these players to call light and wide every single day of the week. Hand just played as I'am typing this - variance Don variance If the hand played out another way on the flop I am sure all the money would be in the middle But I kinda lost the minimum _) Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance twist15931 Small blind £0.02 £0.02 £1.96 GHOST78 Big blind £0.04 £0.06 £1.88 Your hole cards A A alllgood27 Fold rancid Raise £0.20 £0.26 £1.66 saltz Fold twist15931 Fold GHOST78 Call £0.16 £0.42 £1.72 Flop 3 9 Q GHOST78 Check rancid Check Turn Q GHOST78 Check rancid Check River 7 GHOST78 Bet £0.21 £0.63 £1.51 rancid Call £0.21 £0.84 £1.45 GHOST78 Show K Q rancid Muck A A GHOST78 Win Three Queens £0.77 £2.28 Posted by rancid
Don your game is going great, when you start playing AA like this then you have to worry lol sos Ranny
please god i hope you win 2nite,i aint gonna sleep now worrying with a guilt ridden conscience. ( i did get you to sign that disclaimer notice advocating playing poker drunk didnt i!)
In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary : Don your game is going great, when you start playing AA like this then you have to worry lol sos Ranny Posted by Dudeskin8
In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary : lol - very true though don't play AA like that ) Posted by rancid
YEY lol.
I can also confirm that ive had a few off the table issues which arent really helping my mindset. Hopefully a Jelavic hat trick tomorrow might set me right again lol /
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I drank a bottle of wine last night and tried out my first mting in mini view with tiling. Struggled with the format but after 2 hrs was about 40p up and earned 100 pts at nl4. See you in Rio
Useful experience tho. My eyesight isn't brilliant and to see all the tables at same time is a bit mad. Can't help but reviewing others play on other tables whilst playing hands/ timing out on another. Must focus !!! It's so much easier playing 8 on UB than 4 on here. Like everything it takes getting used to i guess. How long did it take you Pod1 ?
Plus i can't play UB anymore
This happens in poker against bad players, guy called my AK 4 bet shove with 65s and hit two pr.
Our job is not to wonder why these players call wide and light but just to take advantage when they don't hit so golden, which is more often than not.
We want these players to call light and wide every single day of the week.
Hand just played as I'am typing this - variance Don variance
If the hand played out another way on the flop I am sure all the money would be in the middle
But I kinda lost the minimum _)
not my normal line but hey ho
If he bets flop money is all in, but tbh when he bets on the end he can only be betting queen or bluff, no point in raising he conly calling with a queen.
Plus I am short stacking as there all short so, need him to commit before I stack him rarther than the other way round, kinda works playing short stack tables at this hour of the day
[QUOTE]i dont see the connection between what i said and "schadenfreude" black mass. how can anyone gain pleasure from losing in poker when put along side a tragedy like that! they are both painful things ,both negitive. i have 2 young children who fight and scream over trivial things.to them it is important, to adults its trivial. its all perspective. don knows he has a problem with tiltin, he is a very good poker player as you know,but until he gets past this hurdle moving up is not an option.some people need kid gloves, some need an iron fist and some just need things put in context.
Posted by pod1
It's if a person says that they should be happy as their problems are not as bad as others that's all man.
Relatively speaking they are taking pleasure from other peoples misfortunes. Just semantics. No trouble.
The_Don90 does have tilt issues. I think though this has much to do with his expectations, which will change with experience. He needs to get the experience first tho which he threatens to hijack thru quitting fairly regularly.
For most people losing provides that experience. The problems i had when i started playing i had to sort out in my head on my own with no forums, gurus like Dohhhh etc. I was motivated by the fact that i deeply resented the fact that i was naive and being exploited. I wasn't going to let those ****€r$ make me re-deposit. I didn't give up and soon turned it around to force regs to do what i wanted instead. Then i was a reg.
My determination level was 100% no messing. I am a very harsh critic of myself too. I'd sit down for 14 hrs str8. Day in, day out. There is a lot to be said for the 10,000 hour idea.
In some ways the diary might put pressure on The_Don90. Maybe he thinks that people want to read stories of him winning 10 bi's every day because he's a winner and his opponents are all fish. It isn't like that at all. I'm not certain if he should drink and play too. The reason i stay at lo stakes is because i drink a lot and play. I like it that way. But i have drank a lot for a long time. That takes practise too. Is Don like early 20's or something ? He needs to experiment with changing a few things maybe ? Like attitude ?
The trouble is because of this diary i want Don to succeed. Everybody does. We've invested hours of reading, opinions, technical data, motivation etc. etc. It's an human interest story as much as anything else.
That may create the illusion of pressure in Don's mind. Like now lol talking about him in the third person in his own diary. Sick.
The effects of the game that we all feel do appear amplified in his mind tho. I hope he fires up a table less and just plays and relaxes trying to make simple decisions correctly.
As an aside it's interesting to hear of your drinking. Am i right in thinking you get mashed up at nl 50 ?
Jeez you hardcore man. If my gf reads this she'll make me try to upstakes cos i won't have the pi55head excuse anymore. Danger ! You must be pretty good.
I really need to stop typing now and grind so i can go upstakes and play drunk poker at a higher level. If you can do it profitably then there's no reason i can't. Thanks for your encouragement man, MUCH appreciated !!!!
I am str8 up here man. I just got so accomplished at micro UB that i could drink anything and still play profitably. Just assumed it wouldn't work at higher levels. You are a role model now outside of parenting. Cheers ! And have a great night ! ( I'm gonna get coolered now, such is karma. Won't stop me ! ).
I can also confirm that ive had a few off the table issues which arent really helping my mindset. Hopefully a Jelavic hat trick tomorrow might set me right again lol
Not been on much and only just seen this
Your closing balance is 300 percent up on what you started with - How can you think about quiting and tilting
Ps _ Not getting much luck from pokertube yet