I just was reading one of your previous posts and noticed we have something in common ;o
It was a post about learning difficulties, and how it affects your game, you said you have aspergers syndrome....
SNAP how do you find it affects your game does it make it easier or harder?
also i think this is why we are both suseptable to tilting, cus having aspergers helps our game as it is the game of poker is based on logic, with a bit of luck involved, so when we see illogical calls being made and paying off it frustrates us.... what do you think?
I just was reading one of your previous posts and noticed we have something in common ;o It was a post about learning difficulties, and how it affects your game, you said you have aspergers syndrome.... SNAP how do you find it affects your game does it make it easier or harder? also i think this is why we are both suseptable to tilting, cus having aspergers helps our game as it is the game of poker is based on logic, with a bit of luck involved, so when we see illogical calls being made and paying off it frustrates us.... what do you think? Posted by sillymunch
I also suffer with Anxiety id always put my server amount of tilt to that. Thats often a sub-effect of Aspergers btw. I have been reading "the mental game of poker" which has helped a little but not much tbh, it has some really good stuff in but since i think my case is different from the vast majority i dont think it helped me much. I will read it again and recommened it to anyone though as the small differance it has made is due to how i understand poker.
Ill be more than happy to discuss my issues with you mate, ill give you a pm with my msn address when i get back from Dublin as i wont have time today (leaving at 3 and havent packed yet). Elsadog came up with a very valid point aswell about us all being effected differently so i guess it depends. But i think by discussing these with someone in a similar boat we can learn ot understand better and maybe even then improve on them issues together too. I know thats often easier said than done but its worth a try i think.
i agree hence the reason i brought it up to you, i know how im affected by aspergers, but i always like to here alot of point of views from people in the same boat, im not sure how to check PMs, so ill send you mine and you can add me anytime lol
i agree hence the reason i brought it up to you, i know how im affected by aspergers, but i always like to here alot of point of views from people in the same boat, im not sure how to check PMs, so ill send you mine and you can add me anytime lol Posted by sillymunch
Just click on 'My Profile' a couple across from 'My Account' near the top on any page of the Sky Poker website. Then on your profile it says Inbox (0) or whatever the case may be for the number of unread messages you have, just click on Inbox.
i agree hence the reason i brought it up to you, i know how im affected by aspergers, but i always like to here alot of point of views from people in the same boat, im not sure how to check PMs, so ill send you mine and you can add me anytime lol Posted by sillymunch
In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary : cant drink the stuff, im just hoping theyve imported soe scottish lager, failing that american Posted by The_Don90
I never liked it either until I went to Dublin and after first couple of days thats all I was drinking
GL over there _ are you gonna update your progress on here?
i think you both should be playing nl30 with your games, to be fair i hope you stay down there! Posted by pod1
I can see your point especialy after your next post, but I personaly am not rolled for it
also having a few problems motivating nyself for the long sessions - Just won a buy-in at Nl10 after 30 minutes 3 tabling and am bored, which isn,t like me . Having said that , theres not much action going on. Not even 3 full tables
Included my £30 cfp into my BR which now stands at £306.83
In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary : I can see your point especialy after your next post, but I personaly am not rolled for it also having a few problems motivating nyself for the long sessions - Just won a buy-in at Nl10 after 30 minutes 3 tabling and am bored, which isn,t like me . Having said that , theres not much action going on. Not even 3 full tables Included my £30 cfp into my BR which now stands at £306.83 Posted by MP33
Got motivated again although didn,t get on till after 3am and playing NL10 and NL8 3 tabling i was about 3-4 buy ins down early on after sum bad variance . Then started tilting and i was 5 buy ins down and fed up although i was also playing 2 tables at NL20 as Pod had suggested where i was doing ok - Up about £20 between the 2 tables, but as they tightened up and it got to 8.30 there didnt seem any value so i played my last orbit and got these 2 beautys to finish in profit
1st hand - I,m already 5 buy ins down on NL10 and if i lose this £30 + then its really not a good nigh but I liked the flop and liked what followed even better with the pot odds I was now getting
2nd hand in the same orbit just as i was finishing
Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
zinobino04
Small blind
£0.10
£0.10
£11.78
bustout44
Big blind
£0.20
£0.30
£18.95
Your hole cards
K
Q
TT2001
Raise
£0.60
£0.90
£29.25
painy12
Raise
£1.40
£2.30
£33.35
snapper725
Fold
MP33
Call
£1.40
£3.70
£34.28
zinobino04
Call
£1.30
£5.00
£10.48
bustout44
Call
£1.20
£6.20
£17.75
TT2001
Call
£0.80
£7.00
£28.45
Flop
5
A
10
zinobino04
Check
bustout44
Check
TT2001
Check
painy12
Bet
£2.60
£9.60
£30.75
MP33
Call
£2.60
£12.20
£31.68
zinobino04
Call
£2.60
£14.80
£7.88
bustout44
Fold
TT2001
All-in
£28.45
£43.25
£0.00
painy12
All-in
£30.75
£74.00
£0.00
MP33
Call
£30.75
£104.75
£0.93
zinobino04
All-in
£7.88
£112.63
£0.00
zinobino04
Show
J
K
TT2001
Show
8
10
painy12
Show
A
A
MP33
Show
K
Q
Turn
6
River
J
MP33
Win
Flush to the Ace
£110.83
£111.76
Variance prevails at last
Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
bustout44
Small blind
£0.10
£0.10
£12.15
TT2001
Big blind
£0.20
£0.30
£19.80
Your hole cards
A
10
loki1
Fold
snapper725
Fold
MP33
Raise
£0.60
£0.90
£109.81
lucky42
Call
£0.60
£1.50
£13.28
bustout44
Fold
TT2001
Call
£0.40
£1.90
£19.40
Flop
9
7
Q
TT2001
Check
MP33
Bet
£0.95
£2.85
£108.86
lucky42
Call
£0.95
£3.80
£12.33
TT2001
Call
£0.95
£4.75
£18.45
Turn
Q
TT2001
Check
MP33
Bet
£2.38
£7.13
£106.48
lucky42
Fold
TT2001
Call
£2.38
£9.51
£16.07
River
J
TT2001
Bet
£4.00
£13.51
£12.07
MP33
Raise
£8.00
£21.51
£98.48
TT2001
All-in
£12.07
£33.58
£0.00
MP33
Call
£8.07
£41.65
£90.41
TT2001
Show
K
5
MP33
Show
A
10
MP33
Win
Flush to the Ace
£39.85
£130.26
Played in the Whites Freeroll although missed the first 50 mins and got £8.50 from that as well BR £150 BR 377.21
Easy snap fold pre for me mate, UTG raise followed by 3bet, what are you beating ?
Flop, you have a draw and with the bet he makes have decent odds to draw, however after an all in and call of all in you then call off 150 bb's with JUST a flush draw not sure I need to tell you this but long term you are burning money here and it doesn't matter one jot that you won this pot.
Also you say you you were down 3-4 BI's early at NL10 then went to 5 BI's down, why would you then move up a level where losing will crush you very badly ?
EDIT : AA hand, pre ok, flop gotta bet bigger, why would you bet just half pot on wet board ?
Turn bet bigger again.
River when he bets out why do you just minraise back it's bizarre, you HAVE to raise more here (stick him in), luckily he piled the rest in but many times he could just flat and you lose value.
Jesus. Easy snap fold pre for me mate, UTG raise followed by 3bet, what are you beating ? Flop, you have a draw and with the bet he makes have decent odds to draw, however after an all in and call of all in you then call off 150 bb's with JUST a flush draw not sure I need to tell you this but long term you are burning money here and it doesn't matter one jot that you won this pot. Also you say you you were down 3-4 BI's early at NL10 then went to 5 BI's down, why would you then move up a level where losing will crush you very badly ? EDIT : AA hand, pre ok, flop gotta bet bigger, why would you bet just half pot on wet board ? Turn bet bigger again. River when he bets out why do you just minraise back it's bizarre, you HAVE to raise more here (stick him in), luckily he piled the rest in but many times he could just flat and you lose value. Posted by Dudeskin8
Gimme a brk - it was 8.30 in the morning after a long sesh - Just an error which worked out ok , but as for the !st hand I,m getting it in all day long there i,m drawing to the NUT flush and NUT str8 on a Non paired board (that would have course made a difference) . Yeah I could lose 3 buy ins at NL10 but could live with myself that i,d made the right decison simply based on pot odds
In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary : Gimme a brk - it was 8.30 in the morning after a long sesh - Just an error which worked out ok , but as for the !st hand I,m getting it in all day long there i,m drawing to the NUT flush and NUT str8 on a Non paired board (that would have course made a difference) . Yeah I could lose 3 buy ins at NL10 but could live with myself that i,d made the right decison simply based on pot odds Posted by MP33
But you're just gambling and you simply do not need to at that level.
Appreciate the comments but KQ suited on the button at NL20 in a multi way pot - You can,t fold it every time and I still think the call was the right one on the flop but i,ll post it on the Poker Clinic and see what the experts say.
i do know where your coming from but i just think on this occasion its a snap call
The KQs is a fold pre flop. What hand 3 bets here that you're happy being up against? I did post on the clinic about this hand as well and said it was standard but thinking about it more, you have 9 clubs, and 3 jacks (the 4th jack is included in the 9 clubs) so at best you've got 12 outs but it's likely some of the other players hold some of them. But say you have 12 outs, that means you got about 35% by my reckoning so you're gonna win about 1 in 3 of these and you're calling £28 to win £74 so you're not actually getting the price and even if it was marginal, it's a gamble that you can't take when you've got 10% of your BR on 1 table, hence why I don't think you should be playing this level.
I know Pod said you should give it a go but if you're not rolled then you're not rolled (and you're not). You could be Phil Ivey but if you sit at a table where you have around 15BIs then variance could easily get you.
The KQs is a fold pre flop. What HAND 3 bets here that you're happy being up against? I did post on the clinic about this hand as well and said it was standard but thinking about it more, you have 9 clubs, and 3 jacks (the 4th jack is included in the 9 clubs) so at best you've got 12 outs but it's likely some of the other players hold some of them. But say you have 12 outs, that means you got about 35% by my reckoning so you're gonna win about 1 in 3 of these and you're calling £28 to win £74 so you're not actually getting the price and even if it was marginal, it's a gamble that you can't take when you've got 10% of your BR on 1 table, hence why I don't think you should be playing this level. I know Pod said you should give it a go but if you're not rolled then you're not rolled (and you're not). You could be Phil Ivey but if you sit at a table where you have around 15BIs then variance could easily get you. Posted by Lambert180
Well i defo think 10 10 and JJ poss make the same play , im not sayin you should call here with KQ sooted but ive defo seen a few big players makin this move with mp33's hand
The KQs is a fold pre flop. What hand 3 bets here that you're happy being up against? I did post on the clinic about this hand as well and said it was standard but thinking about it more, you have 9 clubs, and 3 jacks (the 4th jack is included in the 9 clubs) so at best you've got 12 outs but it's likely some of the other players hold some of them. But say you have 12 outs, that means you got about 35% by my reckoning so you're gonna win about 1 in 3 of these and you're calling £28 to win £74 so you're not actually getting the price and even if it was marginal, it's a gamble that you can't take when you've got 10% of your BR on 1 table, hence why I don't think you should be playing this level. I know Pod said you should give it a go but if you're not rolled then you're not rolled (and you're not). You could be Phil Ivey but if you sit at a table where you have around 15BIs then variance could easily get you. Posted by Lambert180
Only guessing but i,d say its about 42-43% , at least thats what i thought at the time
Just played the 1K pts Freeroll which you can also buy in for a £1 - There was a good overlay and I,d recommend it to anyone wanting to improve their MTT game - 10 min blinds
variance got me this time but got it in good - ionically a j on the river again
Yeah I played that 1k GTD tourney too. Did ok but missed out on a cash. Got my 2k starting stack up to 5k then got my KK in pre against AJ, and naturally he flopped the ace. He only had about 3.5k so that took me back to 1.5k. Worked my way back up to 5k again, by this point blinds were about 200/400 and I lost a race for my tourney life Cash started at 80th and I think I came about 125th.
Good work with the odds Dude, I was a little bit out but I knew it was no where near 40%+
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Ill be more than happy to discuss my issues with you mate, ill give you a pm with my msn address when i get back from Dublin as i wont have time today (leaving at 3 and havent packed yet). Elsadog came up with a very valid point aswell about us all being effected differently so i guess it depends. But i think by discussing these with someone in a similar boat we can learn ot understand better and maybe even then improve on them issues together too. I know thats often easier said than done but its worth a try i think.
I never liked it either until I went to Dublin and after first couple of days thats all I was drinking
GL over there _ are you gonna update your progress on here?
also having a few problems motivating nyself for the long sessions - Just won a buy-in at Nl10 after 30 minutes 3 tabling and am bored, which isn,t like me . Having said that , theres not much action going on. Not even 3 full tables
Included my £30 cfp into my BR which now stands at £306.83
1st hand - I,m already 5 buy ins down on NL10 and if i lose this £30 + then its really not a good nigh but I liked the flop and liked what followed even better with the pot odds I was now getting
2nd hand in the same orbit just as i was finishing
Played in the Whites Freeroll although missed the first 50 mins and got £8.50 from that as well BR £150 BR 377.21
Easy snap fold pre for me mate, UTG raise followed by 3bet, what are you beating ?
Flop, you have a draw and with the bet he makes have decent odds to draw, however after an all in and call of all in you then call off 150 bb's with JUST a flush draw not sure I need to tell you this but long term you are burning money here and it doesn't matter one jot that you won this pot.
Also you say you you were down 3-4 BI's early at NL10 then went to 5 BI's down, why would you then move up a level where losing will crush you very badly ?
EDIT : AA hand, pre ok, flop gotta bet bigger, why would you bet just half pot on wet board ?
Turn bet bigger again.
River when he bets out why do you just minraise back it's bizarre, you HAVE to raise more here (stick him in), luckily he piled the rest in but many times he could just flat and you lose value.
i do know where your coming from but i just think on this occasion its a snap call
I know Pod said you should give it a go but if you're not rolled then you're not rolled (and you're not). You could be Phil Ivey but if you sit at a table where you have around 15BIs then variance could easily get you.
Just played the 1K pts Freeroll which you can also buy in for a £1 - There was a good overlay and I,d recommend it to anyone wanting to improve their MTT game - 10 min blinds
variance got me this time but got it in good - ionically a j on the river again
Odds curtosy of Cardplayer
Good work with the odds Dude, I was a little bit out but I knew it was no where near 40%+