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taking on NL4 (and beyond) diary

The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,818
edited December 2011 in Poker Chat
wasnt going to do this but need all the encouragement i can to take on NL4 and i think writing about it helps encousrage myself.

So therefore ive decided to do this again.



Starting BR: £32.34

No targets as such keeping this as small targets, plan to get to £50 then £80 then £100 then work up from there. I think by seeing small targets ill be able to encourage myself a little better again as targets will often seem closer.
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited August 2011
    GL mate, start with 2-4 tabling imo buy in full too

    you can do it just dont get fancy play syndrome and try bluffing you should beat it in no time!
  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited August 2011
    I don't wanna rain on your parade so early on in your diary lol but personally I don't know if setting goals like that is such a good idea.

    I've done it myself before and sometimes (obviously only if you're not completely disciplined) it can lead to chasing that money to meet your target. You don't want a situation where you end up thinking, "if I just call that river bet and win, that'll be me £10 up for today" if it's not the right decision, because inevitably you'll end up down.

    Just make the right decisions, keep doing it consistently and you'll win loads at 4NL but I wouldn't give yourself time limited targets.

    Also starting with only 8 BIs could be a bit risky.
  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited August 2011

    Day 1

    Decided to start tomorrow instead.

    Day 2

    4 tabled for an hour, lost 17 flips but broke even.

    Day 3

    Logged on to sky but then heard about a freeroll sat into the Icelandic WSOP in Rekjavic so played that instead. Lost a flip on the bubble, and felt too tilted to play nl4 after.

    Day 4

    BT cut me off, forgot the bill again!

    Day 18

    Back refreshed, been working at my game whilst away. Logged on to sky but nl4 was full of regs, so decided to give it a miss. 

    Will start again tomorrow.

    Day 19

    Finally got a decent session in and played well. Made 2 buy ins playing solid ABC. Really feel like I'm starting to crack it.

    One guy got 100xbb in pre 4 different times with pocket 2's! I had an overpair every time and held all 4 times! This level is easy I dunno what all the fuss was about! lol

    Day 20

    Had a shocking session, losing every 60/40 and getting coolered, lost 4 buy ins. 

    The pocket 2's guy was back again and got it in pre twice and held against my AK. I mean SERRIOUSLY, how can he not fold???

    How can this level be beaten it's impossible, they just wont fold !!!!!


    Day 21

    Decided to treat myself to a primo sat. Then another 1. Done most of my roll before finally qualifying.

    Bust to a 1 outer on the bubble, sooooo sick. Really feel I can compete in these fields though.

    Only 2 buy ins left now but I can recover.

    Day 22

    Having a day off to recover from yesterdays primo tilt. Will start again tomorrow.

    Attempted the record for most hands posted in the poker clinic in a day. Feel the feedback will really help me recover.

    Day 23

    Lost a buy in first hand of session and logged off. How can he call ffs????

    Day 24

    BT cut me off again, the B*****s!!!

    Day 31

    Back with my last buy in, I can do this!!!

    F this right off. I open the button with AK, bb calls, flop is 10 high and he shoves into me. I fold, and stand.

    I'm taking my 2 quid roll back over to grind tournys on pokerstars.

    Blandie can you close this thread for me plz!

    ----------------------------------------------

    Until next time Sky Poker, I have been THE don! ;)




  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited August 2011
    OMG best post of ALL time !
  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited August 2011
    ^^^ LOLZ thats awesome^^
  • acebarry10acebarry10 Member Posts: 7,556
    edited August 2011
    Hi JJ

    I suggest you edit your post before the mods do :)
  • harding10harding10 Member Posts: 849
    edited August 2011

    cracking post Dohhhhhh, lol!

  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,818
    edited August 2011
    PMSL lol lol lol

    P.S. BT bill paid until octoberr so no worries with that excuse.

    P.S.S hungover will start tomorrow ;)
  • JingleMaJingleMa Member Posts: 1,319
    edited August 2011

    Doh, if Carlsberg made forum posts... 8- />

    Don - I'm not a cash player but I've messed around on nl4 - nl30 in the past and I would take heed of what Lambert has posted.

    Why are you starting on such an arbitrary roll amount? If you enter into something in a slapdash way, your results will be the same (I've been guilty of this in the past many times so I'm speaking from experience). 

    Just deposit a ton and make a proper go at this. Stay disciplined, make a concerted effort and you can prove Doh wrong.

    Good luck.
  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,818
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary:
    Hi JJ I suggest you edit your post before the mods do :)
    Posted by acebarry10
    Im cool with this post mods, as its aimed at me i dont see any problems.

    :D.
  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary:
    Doh, if Carlsberg made forum posts... 8- /> Don - I'm not a cash player but I've messed around on nl4 - nl30 in the past and I would take heed of what Lambert has posted. Why are you starting on such an arbitrary roll amount? If you enter into something in a slapdash way, your results will be the same (I've been guilty of this in the past many times so I'm speaking from experience).  Just deposit a ton and make a proper go at this. Stay disciplined, make a concerted effort and you can prove Doh wrong. Good luck.
    Posted by JingleMa
    This is what I'm hoping will happen!!

    I've been talking to Don about poker on and off the forum now for like a year!!! I've tried everything else to try and help him!!! lol

    MON THE DON !!!!!!


  • debdobs_67debdobs_67 Member Posts: 3,615
    edited August 2011
    Haha , pmsl dohh ure a genius ;)

    Gl to ya don m8y hope it works for ya BUT i would defo NOT start playin cash til ya have 15 buy-ins and im pretty sure ya could easily spin up ure £32 to £60 playin sng's xxx
  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,818
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary:
    Haha , pmsl dohh ure a genius ;) Gl to ya don m8y hope it works for ya BUT i would defo NOT start playin cash til ya have 15 buy-ins and im pretty sure ya could easily spin up ure £32 to £60 playin sng's xxx
    Posted by debdobs_67
    dyms tilt me serious bad, never knew why Im going to be trying a little something with the 4 tabling NL4 feeling pretty comfortable and looking at the basic aspects of my game that i really am not good at.

    As Dohhhh says we've been talking on and off the forum for some time and the main goal of that was me being sick of tourny variance and wanting to learn cash. However its meant finding more weaknesses in my game than i could count.

    I think the benifits are starting to show, although its taken longer than both i and JJ would have liked. Tbh i think my tilt, tilts him.
  • JingleMaJingleMa Member Posts: 1,319
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary:
    In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary : This is what I'm hoping will happen!! I've been talking to Don about poker on and off the forum now for like a year!!! I've tried everything else to try and help him!!! lol MON THE DON !!!!!!
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    Yep, I know you've got his back - v.funny post though!
  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited August 2011
    On the starting BR I think £32 is perfectly fine, when I started back a few months ago I began with exactly £45.50 as this is what I'd built up on a previous time of playing cash before I got bored and went back to deepies.

    At first it's hard as when you lose a BI in a standard hand it hurts quite a lot but once you get up to like £80+ they have hardly any effect on your mindset at all.

    I could type my range down here again but I'm sure you've seen it a few times lol, it is ultra tight and will mean you play VERY few hands if any but it also 100% works ;).

    Massive good luck mate, you certainly have a lot of drive to succeed so can't see how you can fail. :)
  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary:
    In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary : dyms tilt me serious bad, never knew why Im going to be trying a little something with the 4 tabling NL4 feeling pretty comfortable and looking at the basic aspects of my game that i really am not good at. As Dohhhh says we've been talking on and off the forum for some time and the main goal of that was me being sick of tourny variance and wanting to learn cash. However its meant finding more weaknesses in my game than i could count. I think the benifits are starting to show, although its taken longer than both i and JJ would have liked. Tbh i think my tilt, tilts him.
    Posted by The_Don90
    It might just be me but this seems crazy to me. You're still learning and haven't mastered 4NL yet and you're playing 4 tables when your BR is only 8 BIs deep. So everytime you sit down, you have 50% of your BR on the table. Even if you had mastered 4NL and were completely crushing it, in that situation, you just need 1 bad day and your BR is gone!
  • AcidMan27AcidMan27 Member Posts: 3,752
    edited August 2011
    Good luck Don.

    Stay disciplined and you will crack it.
  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary:
    On the starting BR I think £32 is perfectly fine, when I started back a few months ago I began with exactly £45.50 as this is what I'd built up on a previous time of playing cash before I got bored and went back to deepies. At first it's hard as when you lose a BI in a standard hand it hurts quite a lot but once you get up to like £80+ they have hardly any effect on your mindset at all. I could type my range down here again but I'm sure you've seen it a few times lol, it is ultra tight and will mean you play VERY few hands if any but it also 100% works ;). Massive good luck mate, you certainly have a lot of drive to succeed so can't see how you can fail. :)
    Posted by Dudeskin8
    This!

    And if it's what you've got to work with, then you don't really have alot of choice.

    Although I'm sure a few weeks back when you decided to have a go at this again, you actually had closer to 15xbuy ins, which has been whittled away at by mtts, spt sats etc, things you really can't afford to mess about with until you get the momentum going in the right direction.

    It's all old ground, you know what to do.

    DOOOO ITTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary:
    In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary : It might just be me but this seems crazy to me. You're still learning and haven't mastered 4NL yet and you're playing 4 tables when your BR is only 8 BIs deep. So everytime you sit down, you have 50% of your BR on the table. Even if you had mastered 4NL and were completely crushing it, in that situation, you just need 1 bad day and your BR is gone!
    Posted by Lambert180
    more tables = less variance, he should be fine as long as he quits if gets tilted. he is not a newbie has been playing for ages so should easily crush nl4. £32 is enough IMO 2-4 tabling it is fine go go go
  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary:
    In Response to Re: taking on NL4 diary : more tables = less variance, he should be fine as long as he quits if gets tilted. he is not a newbie has been playing for ages so should easily crush nl4. £32 is enough IMO 2-4 tabling it is fine go go go
    Posted by YOUNG_GUN
    lol, more rubs....
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