Ha yeah I just seen the post quoted above and assumed it was relatively recent.
Glad things seem to be less turbulent!
Haven't heard of matched betting but heard one of the WSOP final tablists going on about FF betting last year. Will need to add both to the 'to do' list and check them out.
im glad everything is fine now lambert. but its a good pointer in general too not play poker when your mind is not in the right place and as you have shown you have had tough times and came though it it wilkl make you a better person and a better player for it gl . ps my english aint that great but i hope you can understand what im saying.
Ha yeah I just seen the post quoted above and assumed it was relatively recent. Glad things seem to be less turbulent! Haven't heard of matched betting but heard one of the WSOP final tablists going on about FF betting last year. Will need to add both to the 'to do' list and check them out. Posted by markycash
I don't actually bet on Fantasy Footy, well no more than the fact I'm in a league with a few poker mates and we have a very small amount of £££ on 'manager of the month' each month and overall winner. It's just a bit of fun
Matched betting on the other hand, is an absolute gold mine although I'm not sure how much I can say on here. In short, it's essentially exploiting the offers that bookies do to make guaranteed £££.
im glad everything is fine now lambert. but its a good pointer in general too not play poker when your mind is not in the right place and as you have shown you have had tough times and came though it it wilkl make you a better person and a better player for it gl . ps my english aint that great but i hope you can understand what im saying. Posted by reeler
Yeah don't worry, I totally understand, your English seems pretty perfect to me.
I completely agree, so often bad runs in poker leak over into real life and put you in a bad mood, then likewise bad stuff in real life very often leaks into your poker game, you start to get tilted quicker than normal, which leads to losing more, which leads to tilting more. T
Thanks for the concern and yes things are definitely better than they were 12 months ago.
Alright Lambert - Just wondering how you were getting on with your match betting. Not sure if its just me but the offers have dried up and seem to becoming tighter with more restrictions. However i have joined that site again with the offer of £1 for platinum membership for a week
Was also wondering if you take part in casino promos as i know your never gtd a profit in them but you can get an edge depending on wagering requirements or points in casino tournaments.
Hey MP, things are going really well. It's really weird but yesterday was to the day 1 year from when I signed up to PA and you are the third person who randomly asked me how it was going yesterday. So yeah I've been doing it pretty much dead on 12 months now and have just about broken the £20k profit mark. I absolutely love it tbh, love that it's low variance and so quick/easy. I only spend about 10-15hr on it per week now absolute max, often less than that, and never fail to make 4 figures per month.
I guess it comes with experience being able to spot quickly which offers are worth your time and get them done quick etc. Deffo a smart idea to sign back up for £1, with Cheltenham coming up if you can't make 100x that sign up fee you've done something reallllly wrong imo.
I'd say the offers are definitely changing but imo over the last few months they are better than ever. They aren't such a walk in a park of just simply 'bet £10, get £10' etc but they can be a ton more profitable if you've got the bank to be putting on big stakes. Off the top of my head...
Will Hill select a few footy matches per day and will give a 25% profit boost if the game has 4 or more goals in it. Back/lay and hope. I've had it come in for me on all 4 CL matches this week when I backed Bayern, Dortmund, Barca and Real. If you're sticking on £20then the wins will be rubbish obv, but if you're sticking on £200-300 per game it's pretty tasty EV.
Paddy '2up' - On all La Liga and Premiership games if your team go 2 goals up Paddy pay out instantly, then if your team ended up not winning, you'd win at Paddy cos they've already paid out AND win at the exchange. Few people won £2-3k profit just on the City v Spurs match a few weeks ago when it ended 2-2. It's a pretty rare occurence to go 2up and lose but once your team go 2up you can just lock-in gtd profit at that point by backing your own team. Again, gotta be doing big stakes.
Coral WWGI - Back a team in selected matches, if they win both halves, Coral double your profit on the bet. Again a relatively unlikely outcome but once your team win the first half you can lock in gtd profit by just laying your team to win the 2nd half.
In short, I think it's changed a bit in that there's not loads of little FBs to be had. Now you gotta bet bigger, take bigger QLs on longer shots but it's all massively +EV and the payouts are way bigger. Imo it's better than ever atm.
Yes I do any of the casino offers where 1) the EV is decent and 2) the max loss isn't ridic. Like there are some where it's £80 worth of EV but you gotta wager £5000 on Blackjack or whatever, and I know all too well what variance can be like so I cba getting in spots where I can lose huge for relatively small wins.
Hey MP, things are going really well. It's really weird but yesterday was to the day 1 year from when I signed up to PA and you are the third person who randomly asked me how it was going yesterday. So yeah I've been doing it pretty much dead on 12 months now and have just about broken the £20k profit mark. I absolutely love it tbh, love that it's low variance and so quick/easy. I only spend about 10-15hr on it per week now absolute max, often less than that, and never fail to make 4 figures per month. I guess it comes with experience being able to spot quickly which offers are worth your time and get them done quick etc. Deffo a smart idea to sign back up for £1, with Cheltenham coming up if you can't make 100x that sign up fee you've done something reallllly wrong imo. I'd say the offers are definitely changing but imo over the last few months they are better than ever. They aren't such a walk in a park of just simply 'bet £10, get £10' etc but they can be a ton more profitable if you've got the bank to be putting on big stakes. Off the top of my head... Will Hill select a few footy matches per day and will give a 25% profit boost if the game has 4 or more goals in it. Back/lay and hope. I've had it come in for me on all 4 CL matches this week when I backed Bayern, Dortmund, Barca and Real. If you're sticking on £20 then the wins will be rubbish obv, but if you're sticking on £200-300 per game it's pretty tasty EV. Paddy '2up' - On all La Liga and Premiership games if your team go 2 goals up Paddy pay out instantly, then if your team ended up not winning, you'd win at Paddy cos they've already paid out AND win at the exchange. Few people won £2-3k profit just on the City v Spurs match a few weeks ago when it ended 2-2. It's a pretty rare occurence to go 2up and lose but once your team go 2up you can just lock-in gtd profit at that point by backing your own team. Again, gotta be doing big stakes. Coral WWGI - Back a team in selected matches, if they win both halves , Coral double your profit on the bet. Again a relatively unlikely outcome but once your team win the first half you can lock in gtd profit by just laying your team to win the 2nd half. In short, I think it's changed a bit in that there's not loads of little FBs to be had. Now you gotta bet bigger, take bigger QLs on longer shots but it's all massively +EV and the payouts are way bigger. Imo it's better than ever atm. Yes I do any of the casino offers where 1) the EV is decent and 2) the max loss isn't ridic. Like there are some where it's £80 worth of EV but you gotta wager £5000 on Blackjack or whatever, and I know all too well what variance can be like so I cba getting in spots where I can lose huge for relatively small wins. Posted by Lambert180
Among the many questions this all begs, the one that sticks out is why aren't more people doing it?
In Response to Re: Lambert180 ----- Life After The Grind ------- : Among the many questions this all begs, the one that sticks out is why aren't more people doing it? Posted by hhyftrftdr
There are lot's doing it. Unfortunately the online bookies soon restrict you or close your account, including SKY bet with me and many others. They like giving the offers to mug punters but soon become wise to punters that expolit them.
In Response to Re: Lambert180 ----- Life After The Grind ------- : Among the many questions this all begs, the one that sticks out is why aren't more people doing it? Posted by hhyftrftdr
im supposing it takes abit o time studying the markets finding the price boosts on all sites and most people cba when you just want to put a 2 quid accy on sky..dedication mate
In Response to Re: Lambert180 ----- Life After The Grind ------- : im supposing it takes abit o time studying the markets finding the price boosts on all sites and most people cba when you just want to put a 2 quid accy on sky..dedication mate Posted by stokefc
nope ... all the 'finding' is done for us. For the sign up costs OFC
I'd imagine there are a variety of reasons why there aren't more doing it, probably by an absolute mile the most common one will be that people don't know it exists, I had no idea what matched betting was 12 months, had never heard the term etc. I imagine that applies to most people.
Probably the 2nd largest reason is that of the few people that do hear about it, the vast majority probably think it's some kind of scam, pretty much all 'schemes' where it's easy money or get rich quick are, and it's pretty standard to think 'if it sounds too good to be true then it probably is'. If I'd have stumbled across info about matched betting myself I'd have almost certainly written it off in the same way and not given it a chance, but it was recommended to me by a Sky reg that I trusted and that was the only reason I gave it a shot.
Loads of other reasons, it requires a decent bankroll that most don't have, a lot of people are just lazy, a lot of people don't wanna do 40+ hr a week in their job and then come home and effectively do another few hours of work every night, a lot of people actually enjoy gambling and would rather big wins here and there (even if they lose longterm) over slow and steady 'boring' lots of small wins.
In Response to Re: Lambert180 ----- Life After The Grind ------- : nope ... all the 'finding' is done for us. For the sign up costs OFC Posted by Boxster
In Response to Re: Lambert180 ----- Life After The Grind ------- : There are lot's doing it. Unfortunately the online bookies soon restrict you or close your account, including SKY bet with me and many others. They like giving the offers to mug punters but soon become wise to punters that expolit them. Posted by Boxster
This is my main concern for this. You mentioned that you have to bet big in order to maximise profits but i,ve done this in the past and had accounts suspended or restricted and pretty quickly too. i,d be to paranoid now about putting big bets on promos in fear of getting banned and losing my money.
In Response to Re: Lambert180 ----- Life After The Grind ------- : This is my main concern for this. You mentioned that you have to bet big in order to maximise profits but i,ve done this in the past and had accounts suspended or restricted and pretty quickly too. i,d be to paranoid now about putting big bets on promos in fear of getting banned and losing my money. Posted by MP33
I don't wanna go into it too much cos not sure if this is really the place (happy to it on FB) but it's all about building an image/betting profile with bookies. It's one of the reasons why imo sites like the one I use are worth their weight in gold because there is mountains on knowledge of there from people who have been doing it for a realllllly long time.
I underestimated the value of my image in the early days and did lose a few accounts, but I aint lost one now for probably 9 months, touch wood. You can't just go from doing the odd £10 and £20 bet to lumping on £500 per bet, it's naturally gonna raise eyebrows and gonna get you restricted or banned vv quick. Two key things are
1) You need to be 'mug betting' i.e. betting on things that your average punter would bet on that are totally unrelated to offers. Could be betting on big boxing matches like Haye v Bellew, betting on the premiership, the FA Cup, the Champions League, whatever. If 100% of your bets are related to offers then of course you won't last long, and yeah these mug bets will cost you QLs and you won't get anything for them but it's just a 'cost of business' in the pursuit of keeping all your accounts in order.
2) Slowly build stakes (if it's a site where it's worth betting big), just gradually up things bit by bit. There are certain sites where I bet say £300 on a few premiership games a week and some La Liga cos that's in-line with the kinda stakes I'm doing when I go for their offers. Other sites do tiny offers so there's no need for me to go lumping on huge stakes.
One thing to add is that no reputable bookie would ever confiscate a penny of your money for doing this. If you are multi-accounting, i.e. trying to run multiple accounts with the same bookie, then they can confiscate funds cos that's a serious breach of their terms of service but for what I'm doing, the worst you're gonna get is them is basically them saying 'you are no longer allowed to take part in our promos/receive FBs' which obviously stops you taking advantage of offes in future but doesn't cost you anything.
The way I see it, if I get promo banned from every single bookie tomorrow, I'll still be X amount of money better off than I was, and I won't have lost anything. It's not like I'll ever want to place a genuine bet (I'm just not much of a gambler), and if I did, I'd just use a betting exchange anyway (who will never ban you) cos their odds are pretty much always the best anyway.
Thought I'd pop in and say hello. Been playing slightly more poker recently which is just >0 basically. Thought I'd give the mayhem freerolls a bash, see if I can't win me and Emma our first holiday abroad since we met about 8 years ago. Great promo but with only 4 heads from day 1, I got some catching up to do tonight!
Otherwise, just plodding along MB'ing.
Unlucky Spurs fans, a valiant title challenge but Chelsea have just been too good this year. Thankfully they are gonna finish above Pool so JJ owes me a tenner... just gotta rail in a miracle for Utd to finish above Pool or I'll be giving him the tenner back.
Also been getting back in to some old games, got myself a Dreamcast emulator and recently finished Shenmue 1 and 2 I'd stick a picture up for the nostalgia if anyone else has played it but it'd probably be next week before it appeared. On to Grandia 2 now and then it'll be Skies of Arcadia
Alright Lambert Can you post that link again pls for the sharkscope DYM leaderboard for consecutive cashes for the year - Can,t find it on sharkscope - Can only see profits - Think it was when jdalstar won about 20+
I,m only on 13 but considering dropping down to 30p normal structered ones to stand a better chance of getting on it (Thats presuming it does count TDYM,s) Thx
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Glad things seem to be less turbulent!
Haven't heard of matched betting but heard one of the WSOP final tablists going on about FF betting last year. Will need to add both to the 'to do' list and check them out.
Was also wondering if you take part in casino promos as i know your never gtd a profit in them but you can get an edge depending on wagering requirements or points in casino tournaments.
MP
I guess it comes with experience being able to spot quickly which offers are worth your time and get them done quick etc. Deffo a smart idea to sign back up for £1, with Cheltenham coming up if you can't make 100x that sign up fee you've done something reallllly wrong imo.
I'd say the offers are definitely changing but imo over the last few months they are better than ever. They aren't such a walk in a park of just simply 'bet £10, get £10' etc but they can be a ton more profitable if you've got the bank to be putting on big stakes. Off the top of my head...
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I underestimated the value of my image in the early days and did lose a few accounts, but I aint lost one now for probably 9 months, touch wood. You can't just go from doing the odd £10 and £20 bet to lumping on £500 per bet, it's naturally gonna raise eyebrows and gonna get you restricted or banned vv quick. Two key things are
One thing to add is that no reputable bookie would ever confiscate a penny of your money for doing this. If you are multi-accounting, i.e. trying to run multiple accounts with the same bookie, then they can confiscate funds cos that's a serious breach of their terms of service but for what I'm doing, the worst you're gonna get is them is basically them saying 'you are no longer allowed to take part in our promos/receive FBs' which obviously stops you taking advantage of offes in future but doesn't cost you anything.