This Fred may contain some suxors hands DTD last 20 gg....................so TILTS me! Whats wrong with the hand below, answers on a postcard Put it this way I thought oppo had a hand
Don't know what to say since don't have an idea of your playstyle, from what I saw you definately aren't raising enough when there are limpers in the pot, I noticed you were 3xbb raising after a limper, really needs to be 3xbb+1bb for every limper.
Any reg you have identified as tight, start 3 betting them light, very few are going to 4bet you light and you can outplay them post flop. Also if you 3bet some people at 10nl enough times they will begin to get annoyed and start doing stuff like calling oop with hands like K10 and you just end up stacking them when you have AK.
Don't semi bluff loose passives, its just not going to work, try and table select better, if you find yourself on a table with 3 'decent' regs at 10nl your not selecting well enough. (of course everyones reads are different)
I have generally been avoiding happy hour and the hour after happy hour when the tables take about 40 mins to sort themselves out once all the rakeback pros leave.
Don't know what to say since don't have an idea of your playstyle, from what I saw you definately aren't raising enough when there are limpers in the pot, I noticed you were 3xbb raising after a limper, really needs to be 3xbb+1bb for every limper. Any reg you have identified as tight, start 3 betting them light, very few are going to 4bet you light and you can outplay them post flop. Also if you 3bet some people at 10nl enough times they will begin to get annoyed and start doing stuff like calling oop with hands like K10 and you just end up stacking them when you have AK. Don't semi bluff loose passives, its just not going to work, try and table select better, if you find yourself on a table with 3 'decent' regs at 10nl your not selecting well enough. (of course everyones reads are different) I have generally been avoiding happy hour and the hour after happy hour when the tables take about 40 mins to sort themselves out once all the rakeback pros leave. Posted by NColley
Cheers for the feedback and some good advice Some of what you say regarding raise sizs hits home and I have tweaked it latley What are your opnions on 3 betting oop lightish at NL10--- /> pointless versus the majority ?
Its not gonna be profitable 3 betting 8 6 oop if your getting called more then 1/3 - 1/4 of the time (people don't like to fold hands like 109s to 3 bets in position). You just make life hard for yourself too and people love to float more in position then out of position.
If you make it to 100nl you might start trying to balance your range oop but its not worth it at 10nl.
Its not gonna be profitable 3 betting 8 6 oop if your getting called more then 1/3 - 1/4 of the time (people don't like to fold hands like 109s to 3 bets in position). You just make life hard for yourself too and people love to float more in position then out of position. If you make it to 100nl you might start trying to balance your range oop but its not worth it at 10nl. Posted by NColley
Yeah I hear ya, IP works v the type of player we looking to exploit at NL10 I guess
How about doubled bluffs or triples - is it still v this level of oppo very much c bet bluff, don't double if called unless we range draw
In a normal raised pot I started to barrel more, but thats because I was very rarely barreling without the goods and this meant I was getting exploited, certainly barrel the cards that you can viably represent.
In 3 bet pots its determined by your dynamic with the player, you don't want to barrell off to the players who are only ever calling your flop cbets with TPTK or better.
2 days ago I made a mistake in raising an unknown in a limped pot on the action table with just a flush draw and I bet the turn and river and he check called both streets with 3rd pair 3 kicker, felt like a right plonker but it gave me a reminder of why not to barrel loose passives.
In a normal raised pot I started to barrel more, but thats because I was very rarely barreling without the goods and this meant I was getting exploited, certainly barrel the cards that you can viably represent. In 3 bet pots its determined by your dynamic with the player, you don't want to barrell off to the players who are only ever calling your flop cbets with TPTK or better. 2 days ago I made a mistake in raising an unknown in a limped pot on the action table with just a flush draw and I bet the turn and river and he check called both streets with 3rd pair 3 kicker, felt like a right plonker but it gave me a reminder of why not to barrel loose passives. Posted by NColley
Mixed bag, flopped like god with str flush/FH/straight but no action or flopped good but got outdrawn like flopped str and oppo hits runner runner for FH - cheers set over set blahhhhhhhhhhhhh
Lost a bit too much pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft
Ok not played that much since Valentines but when I have played it hurt my confidence NL10 seems to be treating me not very well and frankly my Kings into Aces and sets over sets and all these cold horrible shizzlers plus some stooooooooooooooooopid cold decks - draws missing
just the normal downs hopefully some upswings are coming I did FT the £250 GTD and got AIPR dominating oppo's hand (AQvA10+KQvQJ) on both occasions but lost both oppos hitting 3 outers for fun, so sad is this poker game sometimes - busted in 6th for £20 but it only reduced the pain to my shrinking BR
Poker is a cruel game when it's running against you
that is why i,m in no great hurry in moving up levels myself. you don,t need to do anything wrong... and you can still find yourself 2 or 3 buy-ins down.
as i,ve always said "know your limits" play within your b/roll and you,ll be "right as rain".
Pretty sure I got owned here..... EDIT : Hand won't post but basically the BvB spot where you minraised pre bet 100 I clicked it back you did the same..... Posted by Dudeskin8
click back wars! Feel comfortable playing oop ) I see you putting the volume in, working for you I need to get back to it, kinda stagnated after a good start at £5 level
been there rancid, got the t-shirt.....lol that is why i,m in no great hurry in moving up levels myself. you don,t need to do anything wrong... and you can still find yourself 2 or 3 buy-ins down. as i,ve always said "know your limits" play within your b/roll and you,ll be "right as rain". keep going though buddy, you,ve got game devon Posted by devonfish5
Yeah I have gone for maybe a tight BR (£230) for NL10 but I am sure I'll be ok Hopefully I won't have to top it up :S Saying that I am trying to stick the mindset of "This is my entire BR" Playing NL10/£5 DYM/£2-5 MTT should provide enough of a challenge
I can easily beat it, just depends if the poker gods deem me worthy ) Last night they never but tonight may be my night !
Don't know what to say since don't have an idea of your playstyle, from what I saw you definately aren't raising enough when there are limpers in the pot,I noticed you were 3xbb raising after a limper, really needs to be 3xbb+1bb for every limper. Any reg you have identified as tight, start 3 betting them light, very few are going to 4bet you light and you can outplay them post flop. Posted by NColley
Slight Hijack Rancid - hope you don't mind? - GREAT thread BTW! @Ncolley - I've not seen this before. Could you expand please? e.g. Just tourneys? Also, does the stage of tourney/position change this? pad
Hi glenelg, this flaw in rancids game was aimed specifically at nl10 cash.
You can apply the same strategy in the early stages of the tournament/dyms where you are sitting deep. Once the stacks become much shallower you won't need to isolate so big.
Hi glenelg, this flaw in rancids game was aimed specifically at nl10 cash. You can apply the same strategy in the early stages of the tournament/dyms where you are sitting deep. Once the stacks become much shallower you won't need to isolate so big. Posted by NColley
In Response to Re: Rancid rolls on..........again! : click back wars! Feel comfortable playing oop ) I see you putting the volume in, working for you I need to get back to it, kinda stagnated after a good start at £5 level Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance rancid Small blind 25.00 25.00 1725.00 Dudeskin8 Big blind 50.00 75.00 4035.00 Your hole cards 9 A PADDY363 Fold jackosly18 Fold tallytink Fold rancid Raise 75.00 150.00 1650.00 Dudeskin8 Call 50.00 200.00 3985.00 Flop 6 4 4 rancid Bet 100.00 300.00 1550.00 Dudeskin8 Raise 200.00 500.00 3785.00 rancid Raise 200.00 700.00 1350.00 Dudeskin8 Fold rancid Muck rancid Win 600.00 1950.00 rancid Return 100.00 0.00 2050.00 Posted by rancid
A10 here sigh...... was co close to shoving on you too but remembered I'm a nit and it's a **** DYM where I have 3700 lol.
Yeah volume has worked well but success (for now) is purely down to tighter BRM strategy, without it I would have been back to £3.30 yesterday .
Another thing that's surprised me is how much volume you need to challenge the top 30 STT guys, at one stage I was around 80 wins from 30th but now down to a tiny 18 after just a splash of sustained volume, early days but I reckon I should just squeuk into it.
Good luck to you too mate, just not on my tables .
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DTD last 20 gg....................so TILTS me!
Whats wrong with the hand below, answers on a postcard
Put it this way I thought oppo had a hand
Any reg you have identified as tight, start 3 betting them light, very few are going to 4bet you light and you can outplay them post flop. Also if you 3bet some people at 10nl enough times they will begin to get annoyed and start doing stuff like calling oop with hands like K10 and you just end up stacking them when you have AK.
Don't semi bluff loose passives, its just not going to work, try and table select better, if you find yourself on a table with 3 'decent' regs at 10nl your not selecting well enough. (of course everyones reads are different)
I have generally been avoiding happy hour and the hour after happy hour when the tables take about 40 mins to sort themselves out once all the rakeback pros leave.
Some of what you say regarding raise sizs hits home and I have tweaked it latley
What are your opnions on 3 betting oop lightish at NL10--- /> pointless versus the majority ?
Its not gonna be profitable 3 betting 8 6 oop if your getting called more then 1/3 - 1/4 of the time (people don't like to fold hands like 109s to 3 bets in position). You just make life hard for yourself too and people love to float more in position then out of position.
If you make it to 100nl you might start trying to balance your range oop but its not worth it at 10nl.
How about doubled bluffs or triples - is it still v this level of oppo very much c bet bluff, don't double if called unless we range draw
:S
My first update
Played DTD, not much doing top 20 in one
Little DYM and some NL8/NL10
Good times!
Start BR £230
Current BR £272
In 3 bet pots its determined by your dynamic with the player, you don't want to barrell off to the players who are only ever calling your flop cbets with TPTK or better.
2 days ago I made a mistake in raising an unknown in a limped pot on the action table with just a flush draw and I bet the turn and river and he check called both streets with 3rd pair 3 kicker, felt like a right plonker but it gave me a reminder of why not to barrel loose passives.
Word - cheers
Mixed bag, flopped like god with str flush/FH/straight but no action or flopped good but got outdrawn
like flopped str and oppo hits runner runner for FH - cheers
set over set blahhhhhhhhhhhhh
Lost a bit too much pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft
Start BR £230
Current BR £220
NL10 seems to be treating me not very well and frankly my Kings into Aces and sets over sets and all these cold horrible shizzlers plus some stooooooooooooooooopid cold decks - draws missing
just the normal downs
hopefully some upswings are coming
I did FT the £250 GTD and got AIPR dominating oppo's hand (AQvA10+KQvQJ) on both occasions but lost both
oppos hitting 3 outers for fun, so sad is this poker game sometimes - busted in 6th for £20 but it only reduced the pain to my shrinking BR
Poker is a cruel game when it's running against you
Start BR £230
Current BR £208
got the t-shirt.....lol
that is why i,m in no great hurry in moving up levels myself.
you don,t need to do anything wrong...
and you can still find yourself 2 or 3 buy-ins down.
as i,ve always said "know your limits"
play within your b/roll
and you,ll be "right as rain".
keep going though buddy,
you,ve got game
devon
I see you putting the volume in, working for you
I need to get back to it, kinda stagnated after a good start at £5 level
Hopefully I won't have to top it up :S
Saying that I am trying to stick the mindset of "This is my entire BR"
Playing NL10/£5 DYM/£2-5 MTT should provide enough of a challenge
I can easily beat it, just depends if the poker gods deem me worthy )
Last night they never but tonight may be my night !
@Ncolley - I've not seen this before. Could you expand please? e.g. Just tourneys? Also, does the stage of tourney/position change this?
pad
You can apply the same strategy in the early stages of the tournament/dyms where you are sitting deep.
Once the stacks become much shallower you won't need to isolate so big.