I don't think you'll ever be as tight as me in actual game play lol and rightly so but things like table selection don't require any poker skill so ignoring them is purely down to losing focus/concentration (being lazy).
On the break, just wanted to try something new really and DYM seemed an interesting place to start (especially after all the stick I'd always gave them), I also even had a breif spell at the Hyper's which went up....and down lol but for now I'm really into the blasted DYM's, just the structure and simpleness tbh.
But all things eventually become boring no matter how much you like them so when that day happnes I'll drag myself back into cash which will in turn feel new and exciting
I can identify with this ) I feel if I can improve in these areas then my BR will stop acting like a yoyo Seem to have this problem, I never seem to be able to have a nice steady upwards graph
I thought it was just because of variance but I feel it’s more to do with playing tired/lazy/bad table selection and making rash and sometimes erratic plays
I always play a positive session when completely in the zone, 100% focus and frankly when I play like this I now what I’am capable of achieving
O well after a long day at work, maybe playing late into the night isn’t the best formula and something I need to change if I am going to move on......
Ok so that the problem.. now how about finding a solution )
Been looking at my sessions and maybe playing various formats together in a session is not proving good for focus and concentration. So instead of playing cash, DYM & MTT together I will dedicate sessions to one format.
My best session so far was 9 tabling cash for two hours, which resulted in a +£50 session.
So this evening I will be 100% playing DYM
In future my sessions will consist of either Cash or DYM.
If I fancy playing an MTT then I will play this alongside but Cash & DYM will not be mixed.
Plus I am going to shorten my session’s so I do not get affected by tiredness. Plus placing a midnight cap on my sessions should stop the spew as it’s pretty obvious I should not compound the problem.
have to agree with Dudeskin, find a table with min number of regs,deffo worth it. if there is no table free,look through all tables and put your name on waiting list.you can also watch while u r waiting. don,t ever simply join the 1st table that,s free.
100% agree on the focusing on one format, I often have a little peek on what you're playing and it's usually NL10, DYM plus the mandotary MTT and I just think how does your mind cope with it lol, of course you're a decent player but playing those VERY different games can't be good imo.
DYM = Uber tight
Cash = TAGGY but much wider than DYM
MTT = A mixture of the two but by playing DYM alongside you could easily misread one table for the other and end up shoving too early in a DYM format where survival is key or even worse not shoving or 3bet shoving when going FTW is your only goal.
Anyway good luck mate, can't see this being anything but positive.
have to agree with Dudeskin, find a table with min number of regs,deffo worth it. if there is no table free,look through all tables and put your name on waiting list.you can also watch while u r waiting. don,t ever simply join the 1st table that,s free. Posted by devonfish5
Yeah, sounds great in theory - hope I can be discplined enough
100% agree on the focusing on one format, I often have a little peek on what you're playing and it's usually NL10, DYM plus the mandotary MTT and I just think how does your mind cope with it lol, of course you're a decent player but playing those VERY different games can't be good imo. DYM = Uber tight Cash = TAGGY but much wider than DYM MTT = A mixture of the two but by playing DYM alongside you could easily misread one table for the other and end up shoving too early in a DYM format where survival is key or even worse not shoving or 3bet shoving when going FTW is your only goal. Anyway good luck mate, can't see this being anything but positive. Posted by Dudeskin8
Yeah, I thought fine - but I am thinking, maybe it's not ideal circumstances for 100% focus Especially around bubble time, sometimes my mind is occupied with a cash hand or MTT on other tables and I miss a spot or missed something crucial like a ss doubling up or similar.... You really have to keep your eye on the ball around bubble in DYM's
In Response to Re: Rancid rolls on..........again! BR £193 : Suggesting I am not TAG is just an accusation surely But yeah I hear ya, it may be a consideration because I do sometimes include high varaince plays but I don't think I swing that much Posted by rancid
Definitely wasn't meant as an accusation, the way you've built your roll and your game over the last 6 months or so has been very impressive and as you've said yourself there's more than one way of skinning a cat.
Quick update because it's just compounding my misery £300 GTD FTW - Should be like taking candy from a baby. so why do the poker gods have to mess things up
Seriously tilting this evening, can't win any DYM either - lolz Lets see how bad BR looks in the morning
Like how easy is it to get players to spew shove 35 bigs Like last 10 or something, would have put me 2nd in chips QQvAJ essentially -_-
It's ok, 3 outs = no problem OMG this is what it feels like to be DON90 !!
such a horrible session, started really badly - not doing anything wrong though - just hurts
Busted out of £300 GTD - won a little in a timed toutney
Once I stopped playing DYM at 11, I opened 9 x NL4 tables - not much doing )
How do you go from comfortably beating a DYM level and then just can't win :S Is this a downswing or did I run like god on a lovely upswing Really makes you doubt yourself ( Can you play the same level of poker and swing up and down like this, is it normal to top out at £280 then dive down to £150 - I remember doing this before when I was around this level, then building it all back up again So it can be done, just depends If I have the will to do it all again, which to be honest at the moment I don't think I can be bothered with it. But I don't wanna take the easy way out and just load up my entire BR )
Do I really wanna do this again :S Do I really wanna drop down to NL4 and grind that again, emmmmm no why would I want to repeat what I have done before Up or bust I guess............ /> Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Poker !
Come to a bit of a juncture now with £148 BR, may have to reaccess what levels I play I'll have a think about it tomorrow, too tired right now - need a cuddle with the missus )
Well things never seem that bleak in the morning. So onwards and upwards, going to keep on the £5 DYM plus play some mini MTT, may play some cash but with only 15 buy in’s for NL10 it’s going to be a bit frisky. I’ll mainly keep on with the DYM and then give cash a shot and hopefully with a good session we should be back on track.If anything goes wrong then may have to grind some NL4/8 sigh till BR is back up, that £500 BR looks a long way off now.
This is the hardest part when everything is going good then poker is easy, when things don't go according to plan then that's when it test's your character.
Had a look through hands from last night and didn't see anything that was bad.....probably one shove that was bad but apart from that it's the same game I was playing when my graph was moving upwards so............emmmmmmmmmmmmm
sounds to me like you have just hit a downswing mate. they come and go as you know. you know you are playing risk poker atm with your b/roll and you are coming out second best. you know you can play,so am sure you will figure it out. think i would be sticking to just the one dicipline though for a while,as you are imo mixing it up a bit, and don,t really have direction. still,today,s another day and it could all turn around again. good luck,devon
NOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Don't come back to nl4/nl8 Pleeeaaasssee We'd just managed to get "rid" of you!! ))) LOL!
Seriously, does sound like a downswing. From memory you had one or 2 when doing your previous target? If you do drop down then shouldn't take you long mate.
Got to agree with Devon, I think you'ld do well to focus on cash - or whichever form appeals to you most.
Really surprised that you felt NL20 was not for you. Admittedly I've not played a lot of NL10 but would be shocked if NL20 was significantly tougher. Just takes a while to recognise the regs I'ld have thought
Maybe mentally you'd play better at NL20 which you'ld think of as a challenge, rather than feel you're treading water at limits you know you can beat.
I am sure you know how quickly things can turn around with a couple of good sessions, hope you start to run better.
sounds to me like you have just hit a downswing mate. they come and go as you know. you know you are playing risk poker atm with your b/roll and you are coming out second best. you know you can play,so am sure you will figure it out. think i would be sticking to just the one dicipline though for a while,as you are imo mixing it up a bit, and don,t really have direction. still,today,s another day and it could all turn around again. good luck,devon Posted by devonfish5
Hi Devon,
Aye downswing, hate em - I'll probably stick to DYM for a while as I am rolled for the £5 level and I know I can win monies - last words!
NOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Don't come back to nl4/nl8 Pleeeaaasssee We'd just managed to get "rid" of you!! ))) LOL! Seriously, does sound like a downswing. From memory you had one or 2 when doing your previous target? If you do drop down then shouldn't take you long mate. good luck Posted by walesboy
I have had a few downswings, they happen but are tough on you and you start to question even if you can play the game If I need a few quid I may pop down to NL4/8 yes, but only in emergency! Saying that I played 9xNL4 for an hour and not much happened, sigh - crushed the deck on a couple of flops but couldn't get paid even at NL4 sad times - even had a couple of sets shoved in my face
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I can identify with this )
I feel if I can improve in these areas then my BR will stop acting like a yoyo
Seem to have this problem, I never seem to be able to have a nice steady upwards graph
I thought it was just because of variance but I feel it’s more to do with playing tired/lazy/bad table selection and making rash and sometimes erratic plays
I always play a positive session when completely in the zone, 100% focus and frankly when I play like this I now what I’am capable of achieving
O well after a long day at work, maybe playing late into the night isn’t the best formula and something I need to change if I am going to move on......
Ok so that the problem.. now how about finding a solution )
ok
Been looking at my sessions and maybe playing various formats together in a session is not proving good for focus and concentration. So instead of playing cash, DYM & MTT together I will dedicate sessions to one format.
My best session so far was 9 tabling cash for two hours, which resulted in a +£50 session.
So this evening I will be 100% playing DYM
In future my sessions will consist of either Cash or DYM.
If I fancy playing an MTT then I will play this alongside but Cash & DYM will not be mixed.
Plus I am going to shorten my session’s so I do not get affected by tiredness. Plus placing a midnight cap on my sessions should stop the spew as it’s pretty obvious I should not compound the problem.
Ok see how this goes
As always I’ll provide some feedback tomorrow.
find a table with min number of regs,deffo worth it.
if there is no table free,look through all tables and
put your name on waiting list.you can also watch while u r waiting.
don,t ever simply join the 1st table that,s free.
But yeah I hear ya, it may be a consideration because I do sometimes include high varaince plays but I don't think I swing that much
Especially around bubble time, sometimes my mind is occupied with a cash hand or MTT on other tables and I miss a spot or missed something crucial like a ss doubling up or similar....
You really have to keep your eye on the ball around bubble in DYM's
Best to keep em guessing )
£300 GTD FTW -
Should be like taking candy from a baby. so why do the poker gods have to mess things up
Seriously tilting this evening, can't win any DYM either - lolz
Lets see how bad BR looks in the morning
Like how easy is it to get players to spew shove 35 bigs
Like last 10 or something, would have put me 2nd in chips
QQvAJ essentially -_-
It's ok, 3 outs = no problem
OMG this is what it feels like to be DON90 !!
DYM
Played 16, lost 10
such a horrible session, started really badly - not doing anything wrong though - just hurts
Busted out of £300 GTD - won a little in a timed toutney
Once I stopped playing DYM at 11, I opened 9 x NL4 tables - not much doing )
How do you go from comfortably beating a DYM level and then just can't win :S
Is this a downswing or did I run like god on a lovely upswing
Really makes you doubt yourself
Can you play the same level of poker and swing up and down like this, is it normal to top out at £280 then dive down to £150 -
I remember doing this before when I was around this level, then building it all back up again
So it can be done, just depends If I have the will to do it all again, which to be honest at the moment I don't think I can be bothered with it.
But I don't wanna take the easy way out and just load up my entire BR )
Do I really wanna do this again :S
Do I really wanna drop down to NL4 and grind that again, emmmmm no why would I want to repeat what I have done before
Up or bust I guess............ /> Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Poker !
Come to a bit of a juncture now with £148 BR, may have to reaccess what levels I play
I'll have a think about it tomorrow, too tired right now - need a cuddle with the missus )
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Morning,
Well things never seem that bleak in the morning. So onwards and upwards, going to keep on the £5 DYM plus play some mini MTT, may play some cash but with only 15 buy in’s for NL10 it’s going to be a bit frisky. I’ll mainly keep on with the DYM and then give cash a shot and hopefully with a good session we should be back on track. If anything goes wrong then may have to grind some NL4/8 sigh till BR is back up, that £500 BR looks a long way off now.
This is the hardest part when everything is going good then poker is easy, when things don't go according to plan then that's when it test's your character.
Had a look through hands from last night and didn't see anything that was bad.....probably one shove that was bad but apart from that it's the same game I was playing when my graph was moving upwards so............emmmmmmmmmmmmm
£5 DYM Graph
BR
they come and go as you know.
you know you are playing risk poker atm with your b/roll
and you are coming out second best.
you know you can play,so am sure you will figure it out.
think i would be sticking to just the one dicipline though
for a while,as you are imo mixing it up a bit,
and don,t really have direction.
still,today,s another day and it could all turn around again.
good luck,devon
Don't come back to nl4/nl8 Pleeeaaasssee
We'd just managed to get "rid" of you!!
LOL!
Seriously, does sound like a downswing. From memory you had one or 2 when doing your previous target?
If you do drop down then shouldn't take you long mate.
good luck
Aye downswing, hate em - I'll probably stick to DYM for a while as I am rolled for the £5 level and I know I can win monies - last words!
If I need a few quid I may pop down to NL4/8 yes, but only in emergency!
Saying that I played 9xNL4 for an hour and not much happened, sigh - crushed the deck on a couple of flops but couldn't get paid even at NL4