In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : It would not be that difficult, surely, to keep a track of your chip stack throughout, simply make a note of it after every hand, or every 5 minutes, or whatever? The software that creates a Manhatten to go up on the Live TV Shows is bespoke to the Studio I think, but I imagine they just create it via simple software which is available to anyone, it's standard Windows graph stuff. I'll ask the Techie-Bod-Bloke-Chappie when I see him next, & let you know what he says. Posted by Tikay10
You're right, of course, it would not be difficult to make a note after every hand and then key it into Excel but I sell software for a living and I get offended when I see data held in the system e.g. hand histories,and it is not put to good use. That data could be exported to a spreadsheet using a fairly simple macro and then, KABOOM, the Manhattan chart could be produced automatically. Simples. Come on Sky!
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : Thanks Gavin. I am deffo gonna come to Dublin one weekend, we'll put the word out amongst the Dublin Sky Poker regulars, I'll bring some freebies & stuff, & we'll have a mini SPT. The ideal venue would be The Sporting Emporium, & I'm sure we could get 3 or 4 "private" Tables organised, & have a good couple of days fun poker. I'll check the Diary & see what I can organise, but we will do it. Posted by Tikay10
I think quite a few people would be interested in this if it was offered to the Sky Community, I would go over to Dublin, mickjenn1 would defo be there as I am sure a lot of others would be also!!
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : You're right, of course, it would not be difficult to make a note after every hand and then key it into Excel but I sell software for a living and I get offended when I see data held in the system e.g. hand histories,and it is not pur to good use. That data could be exported to a spreadsheet using a fairly simple macro and then, KABOOM, the Manhattan chart could be produced automatically. Simples. Come on Sky! Posted by Seagull158
Yes, it is simple, but it's hard for Sky Poker to be all things to all men. The add-on you suggest would be simple, so would 100+ other "simple" add-ons that folks suggest regularly. But as you know, these things, running in the background, use up more & more memory & processing resource, & start to impact upon site performance eventually. And what % of players would find a Manhatten useful enough to use regularly? 1%? Less, probably?
But as I said, I will word up the Techie Blokeys, & see what they say, but I'm not hopeful.
In time, of course, down the line, all these things will come, but right now, they need to prioritise software improvements, & many are in train, which the site does need.
Give them time, they will get there, but I'm not aware of any Online Room which currently has this capability, & that in turn suggests a lack of mass demand.
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : You're right, of course, it would not be difficult to make a note after every hand and then key it into Excel but I sell software for a living and I get offended when I see data held in the system e.g. hand histories,and it is not put to good use. That data could be exported to a spreadsheet using a fairly simple macro and then, KABOOM, the Manhattan chart could be produced automatically. Simples. Come on Sky! Posted by Seagull158
I'm sure that if you wrote that fairly simple macro yourself other Sky Poker players would be interested.
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : I'm sure that if you wrote that fairly simple macro yourself other Sky Poker players would be interested. Posted by MereNovice
I sell the S***, I don't write it! The problem is I wouldn't know how to access the hand history data. Screen scraping is such a horrible way to do it. It would be much better to have access to the data tables where the hand histories are held. Then it WOULD be easy (but not for me!).
Up to date on the PM's, too. now, though if I get another PM relating to Kitty, I think I'll scream!
Apologies if you had a long wait for my reply to your PM's, but they do come in at an alarming rate, & I struggle at times to keep pace with the replies.
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : I sell the S***, I don't write it! The problem is I wouldn't know how to access the hand history data. Screen scraping is such a horrible way to do it. It would be much better to have access to the data tables where the hand histories are held. Then it WOULD be easy (but not for me!). Posted by Seagull158
Surely, you DO have access to your Hand Histories?
If I wanted a Manhatten, however, I would not do it that way. I'd just make a note of my current chip stack every 1/3/5/10 minutes or whatever, then create a step graph. I'm not very IT-bright, but I'm sure it would only take a matter of seconds to set it all up on a simple spreadsheet, no?
Thanks for replying to my post.Now I've got another question for you.In MTT's is it a legitimate strategy when you've been able to amass a sizeable stack and the bubble approaches to sit out and wait for the others to knock one another out,I realise you'll lose your blinds,but as I've seen recently a player had a big enough stack,so much so that he or she was absent from play for over 30 minutes and returned the moment the tourney was at the stage and had assured them of at least doubling their money.It annoyed me a bit,if we had been playing for a lot of money I might have been less annoyed but the top prize was less than 10 dollars and the entry fee only 25cents.What are your thoughts and that of other players on this question?Thanks Dave H(BUBSEY13)
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : Surely, you DO have access to your Hand Histories? If I wanted a Manhatten, however, I would not do it that way. I'd just make a note of my current chip stack every 1/3/5/10 minutes or whatever, then create a step graph. I'm not very IT-bright, but I'm sure it would only take a matter of seconds to set it all up on a simple spreadsheet, no? Posted by Tikay10
What I mean, Sir, is that I only have access to hand histories by viewing them one at a time on a screen. However, the hand histories are obviously held in a properly configured and indexed data table so that when you enter your search criteria the data relating to that hand is displayed on the screen. If the hand histories were accessible in the data table itself the data could be exported to the spreadsheet (instead of being viewed on a screen one hand at a time) and the manhattan created automatically.Why would I want to be bothered noting down my chip stack every hand/minute etc. and then keying that information into a spreadsheet when it is already held as part of hand history and so could be done automatically? It is a similar situation to the requests I saw on here a while ago asking for hand histories to be exportable to hand analysis software. Anyway, don't worry about it. I've probably flogged it to death by now.
Thanks for replying to my post.Now I've got another question for you.In MTT's is it a legitimate strategy when you've been able to amass a sizeable stack and the bubble approaches to sit out and wait for the others to knock one another out,I realise you'll lose your blinds,but as I've seen recently a player had a big enough stack,so much so that he or she was absent from play for over 30 minutes and returned the moment the tourney was at the stage and had assured them of at least doubling their money.It annoyed me a bit,if we had been playing for a lot of money I might have been less annoyed but the top prize was less than 10 dollars and the entry fee only 25cents.What are your thoughts and that of other players on this question?Thanks Dave H(BUBSEY13) Posted by BUBSEY13
Perfectly legitimate, & don't let ANYONE try to tell you otherwise. Whether it's optimal is another matter altogether - many strong players use the time just before the Bubble to up the aggro & add considerably to their stack at very little risk, which is equally legit.
We see a lot of very peculiar Posts on here about players deciding to sit-out for strategic reasons. It's perfectly legit, is not angle-shooting, is not "iffy", & is not "wrong". Personally, I would rather nick the easy chips on offer, but it's NOT wrong, in any way, shape, or form.
Thanks for replying to my post.Now I've got another question for you.In MTT's is it a legitimate strategy when you've been able to amass a sizeable stack and the bubble approaches to sit out and wait for the others to knock one another out,I realise you'll lose your blinds,but as I've seen recently a player had a big enough stack,so much so that he or she was absent from play for over 30 minutes and returned the moment the tourney was at the stage and had assured them of at least doubling their money.It annoyed me a bit,if we had been playing for a lot of money I might have been less annoyed but the top prize was less than 10 dollars and the entry fee only 25cents.What are your thoughts and that of other players on this question?Thanks Dave H(BUBSEY13) Posted by BUBSEY13
Hi Dave. Yes it is of course totally legitimate to sit out when well stacked in the later stages of a tourny, and I have seen it happen even in larger events. But I think that this strategy tells a lot about the player, and you would rarely see a good player doing it. Yes it is good to cash in every tournament but someone who is looking to just double their money will never be successful. Personally I look at the situation as an opportunity to go deep into the final table, where the prize money usually rises steeply, and having a big stack gives me the chance of using my chips to apply pressure on other players who are scared of the bubble. There are situations in large tournaments where the bottom 20 or so prizes are equal so conservative play is good to guarantee a cash, but generally its poor strategy. My personal view is to play every tourny to win it, then there is a good chance I might ! The exception is in satellites where there is no advantage in finishing 1st or one above the bubble. The only reason I can suggest for someone doing this is if they are playing with scared money, ie above their bankroll and needs any cash.
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : Perfectly legitimate, & don't let ANYONE try to tell you otherwise. Whether it's optimal is another matter altogether - many strong players use the time just before the Bubble to up the aggro & add considerably to their stack at very little risk, which is equally legit. We see a lot of very peculiar Posts on here about players deciding to sit-out for strategic reasons. It's perfectly legit, is not angle-shooting, is not "iffy", & is not "wrong". Personally, I would rather nick the easy chips on offer, but it's NOT wrong, in any way, shape, or form. Posted by Tikay10
hi tikay sent you a message but i seem to have put it in wrong place its on main page and called later stages cheers shauny
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : hi tikay sent you a message but i seem to have put it in wrong place its on main page and called later stages cheers shauny Posted by SHAUNY
Hi Shauny,
I have not received any messages from you (PM's, I assume you mean), but 'll take a look at the Thread you mention & reply as appropriate.
Tikay how Do I stop people hitting flushes , especially on the river, is it rigged or what? Posted by Cowgomoo
I believe that Tikay is busy at the moment with a little TV frippery and I can sense that you are desperate for a reply so I'll take it upon myself to answer.
Just "embrace" it.
Alternatively, make sure that you are drawing to a better flush or already hold a full house.
Tikay how Do I stop people hitting flushes , especially on the river, is it rigged or what? Posted by Cowgomoo
I believe that Tikay is busy at the moment with a little TV frippery and I can sense that you are desperate for a reply so I'll take it upon myself to answer.
Just "embrace" it.
Alternatively, make sure that you are drawing to a better flush or already hold a full house.
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I think I'm now up to date on questions on here, if I have missed any, just remind me olease, & my apologies if I have forgotten any.
Phew!
Now for the PM backlog.......
But as I said, I will word up the Techie Blokeys, & see what they say, but I'm not hopeful.
In time, of course, down the line, all these things will come, but right now, they need to prioritise software improvements, & many are in train, which the site does need.
Give them time, they will get there, but I'm not aware of any Online Room which currently has this capability, & that in turn suggests a lack of mass demand.
Yayyyyyyyyyyyyyy!
Up to date on the PM's, too. now, though if I get another PM relating to Kitty, I think I'll scream!
Apologies if you had a long wait for my reply to your PM's, but they do come in at an alarming rate, & I struggle at times to keep pace with the replies.
If I wanted a Manhatten, however, I would not do it that way. I'd just make a note of my current chip stack every 1/3/5/10 minutes or whatever, then create a step graph. I'm not very IT-bright, but I'm sure it would only take a matter of seconds to set it all up on a simple spreadsheet, no?
We see a lot of very peculiar Posts on here about players deciding to sit-out for strategic reasons. It's perfectly legit, is not angle-shooting, is not "iffy", & is not "wrong". Personally, I would rather nick the easy chips on offer, but it's NOT wrong, in any way, shape, or form.
There are situations in large tournaments where the bottom 20 or so prizes are equal so conservative play is good to guarantee a cash, but generally its poor strategy.
My personal view is to play every tourny to win it, then there is a good chance I might !
The exception is in satellites where there is no advantage in finishing 1st or one above the bubble.
The only reason I can suggest for someone doing this is if they are playing with scared money, ie above their bankroll and needs any cash.
I have not received any messages from you (PM's, I assume you mean), but 'll take a look at the Thread you mention & reply as appropriate.
Write to me again if it's important, please.
I would suggest having a look at this
Just "embrace" it.
Alternatively, make sure that you are drawing to a better flush or already hold a full house.
I hope that this helps.
Just "embrace" it.
Alternatively, make sure that you are drawing to a better flush or already hold a full house.
I hope that this helps.
I'm having the day off on Sunday, I need to go home, so normal seervice wil be resumed on Monday.
Have a good weekend.