In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : Hi Tikay, Thank you very much for the sage advice, i'm just settling down with a brew to read those links you posted. Thanks to your advice for other players (which I gleaned already ) and the advice from Barry, i've managed to come 44 out of 600(ish), and third out of 6. Not bad for 3 games! I'm still being 'seduced' by pretty looking cards and limping as you say, so I think i'd better work on that for now! I remember Sir John Harvey Jones' TV programme way back when (troubleshooter I think?), so I think i'll give that a try, even if the only thing I learn is something about a brilliant man. I'll stop hogging the forum now! Thanks all! Posted by 5caramanga
You're not "hogging" the forum, you're providing some of the better content on it. Please post more.
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : You're not "hogging" the forum, you're providing some of the better content on it. Please post more. Posted by MereNovice
+1 If a forum isn't for people with questions whatever their level then it's not much use nor is it much of a community
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : Hi Tikay, Thank you very much for the sage advice, i'm just settling down with a brew to read those links you posted. Thanks to your advice for other players (which I gleaned already ) and the advice from Barry, i've managed to come 44 out of 600(ish), and third out of 6. Not bad for 3 games! I'm still being 'seduced' by pretty looking cards and limping as you say, so I think i'd better work on that for now! I remember Sir John Harvey Jones' TV programme way back when (troubleshooter I think?), so I think i'll give that a try, even if the only thing I learn is something about a brilliant man. I'll stop hogging the forum now! Thanks all! Posted by 5caramanga
The TV series he starred in was after he retired from business. He led quite a life, & had very forthright opinions - take a quick look at his Wiki page, HERE
Hogging the Forum? Dont be silly, as Mere suggested, they are excellent questions, which many are not confident enough to ask.
Cheerz tikay, I wasn't fishing for the handout by the way!! I very much appreciate the gesture, but I'd be willing to pay for one myself, and also share it with others in the community, was talking to a guy on the tables the other day about book-sharing on the forum - Think there could be something in that as long as you trust the guy of course.....
As for the comment about improvement in my game....I'm not so sure I know how to take that? lol - Does this mean you weren't a massive fan of my game when I first came here? I still remember that first deepie I played on a friday night, and will have that down as probably my best sky poker performance to date, as everyone was against me, and I played IMO some great hyper aggressive stuff whilst remaining in control.
(I wish I could go back to that heads up encounter with bazbazbaz, would fancy my chances alot more now than I did then)
Anyway some parts I feel have improved, others, have gone backwards. But working with Tuck and improving in genral, is all about finding the right balance, I guess its trial and error, and things are going the right way atm.
Anyway really appreciate the gesture with the book - and as its a "present" - I guess lending it out wouldn't be the best thing to do, but I could photocopy the key bits which I feel help me the most and send em out to other beginners I guess.
Cheerz tikay, I wasn't fishing for the handout by the way!! I very much appreciate the gesture, but I'd be willing to pay for one myself, and also share it with others in the community, was talking to a guy on the tables the other day about book-sharing on the forum - Think there could be something in that as long as you trust the guy of course..... As for the comment about improvement in my game....I'm not so sure I know how to take that? lol - Does this mean you weren't a massive fan of my game when I first came here? I still remember that first deepie I played on a friday night, and will have that down as probably my best sky poker performance to date, as everyone was against me, and I played IMO some great hyper aggressive stuff whilst remaining in control. (I wish I could go back to that heads up encounter with bazbazbaz, would fancy my chances alot more now than I did then) Anyway some parts I feel have improved, others, have gone backwards. But working with Tuck and improving in genral, is all about finding the right balance, I guess its trial and error, and things are going the right way atm. Anyway really appreciate the gesture with the book - and as its a "present" - I guess lending it out wouldn't be the best thing to do, but I could photocopy the key bits which I feel help me the most and send em out to other beginners I guess. Thnx again, cya at a table soon, DOHH Posted by DOHHHHHHH
Take it at face value JJ, it is what it says.
There is also more to poker than "hand skills", & I think you have learned a great deal of those "other" skills since you've been here.
A few days back, speaking in praise of David Tuckman, you said "he made me realise I still have a lot to learn". And that means God help the rest of us, because once you accept that, there is no limit to where your game may take you.
I've also seen you donk off massive chip leads in Tourneys, & I've seen how much that hurt you, mentally. I don't think you'll do that again, either. lJAMESl used to have the same problem, a great chip-getter & an equally competent spewer. He changed that, & within weeks, scooped £50,000+.....
I had 3/4 things on my list to write in that post, and once I started waffling - I lost it and live poker was the thing I missed! (as usual) - haha
Im playing, for definite this time, my first live game in Sheffield this weekend, as my old mate from uni who lives there is back from the navy for a fortnight! I shall follow this with 2/3 other games over the next couple of weeks. And then maybe Ill be ready for the big hitters in Notingham!!
I'll be having a few (hopefully only 1) goes at qualifying for the final at DTD....I usually get dizzy whenever I leave Yorkshire, especially in a southern direction, but Notingham aint too bad, and Im far too tight to use my own pennies to qualify then not turn up! So hope I run good in the sats (i've never ever qualified from a sat btw, apart from an all in lottery. Once spent $70 trying to sat into a tourny which cost $50 to get in direct, and still failed!)
Anyway waffling again, yeh I'll let ya know how Sheffield goes over next few weeks.
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : Hi spagbol, I am afraid it's outwith my remit to answer such questions. You'll need to take it up with Customer Care, I'm afraid. Generally though - NOT specific to this case - the "one person one card" rule is universal throughout the Online Poker world, & for very good anti-fraud reasons. If the rule were not in place, widespread card-fraud & "collateral fraud" (chip-dumping, money-laundering) would be rampant in Online poker. Posted by Tikay10
thanks, like i said can undersand reasons within reason, just could not understand why when set up account they were ok with wifes card and know not now < thats fine see everyone when new card comes through and hopefully get better cards and winning ?????? lol
ahhhhh I did swerve it!!! By accident though!! I had 3/4 things on my list to write in that post, and once I started waffling - I lost it and live poker was the thing I missed! (as usual) - haha Im playing, for definite this time, my first live game in Sheffield this weekend, as my old mate from uni who lives there is back from the navy for a fortnight! I shall follow this with 2/3 other games over the next couple of weeks. And then maybe Ill be ready for the big hitters in Notingham!! I'll be having a few (hopefully only 1) goes at qualifying for the final at DTD....I usually get dizzy whenever I leave Yorkshire, especially in a southern direction, but Notingham aint too bad, and Im far too tight to use my own pennies to qualify then not turn up! So hope I run good in the sats (i've never ever qualified from a sat btw, apart from an all in lottery. Once spent $70 trying to sat into a tourny which cost $50 to get in direct, and still failed!) Anyway waffling again, yeh I'll let ya know how Sheffield goes over next few weeks. DOHH Posted by DOHHHHHHH
DOHHHHHHH, don't forget that we're going to DTD in just over a month to play!! Really looking forward to it - a weekend in DTD - I can't wait!! If anyone else is interested then it would be great for others to come along as well - not sure of any dates as of yet but Doh is in and Dantb10 has shown an interest once all the TP things are over and dusted with!!
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : DOHHHHHHH, don't forget that we're going to DTD in just over a month to play!! Really looking forward to it - a weekend in DTD - I can't wait!! If anyone else is interested then it would be great for others to come along as well - not sure of any dates as of yet but Doh is in and Dantb10 has shown an interest once all the TP things are over and dusted with!! Posted by dylan12
Let us Know more detail closer to the time please Dylan as I would be interested in coming along to check out DTD before September. Even if its only for a game of OMAHA £1 turnover!!!, lol.
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : Let us Know more detail closer to the time please Dylan as I would be interested in coming along to check out DTD before September. Even if its only for a game of OMAHA £1 turnover!!!, lol. Posted by MAXALLY
Hi Tikay, hope you are well and thanks for your answers to my previous posts. Hope you can help me out with these 1) Why is it that the rake for £2 DYM & BH is 25p/12.5% wheras the others (Scary etc.) are 20p/10%. This doesn't happen at the bigger levels like £5 where they are all 50p/10%. As I mostly play £2.25 DYM's I find this a bit of a con and a tax on the little player as it happen in the levels below too. Now I know some will be thinking "Blimey! Its only 5p", well all those 5p's add up if you play a lot of 'em and the fact that I'm Scottish is neither here nor there. Your a fair man Tikay, have a word up top and get it sorted. And on a lighter note... 2) Have you any good poker jokes? This only one I know is, what's the difference between a large pizza and a poker player? The large pizza can feed a family of four. Pretty poor I know but I'm sure you've got better. I eagerly await your reply, especially about the rake.
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : DOHHHHHHH, don't forget that we're going to DTD in just over a month to play!! Really looking forward to it - a weekend in DTD - I can't wait!! If anyone else is interested then it would be great for others to come along as well - not sure of any dates as of yet but Doh is in and Dantb10 has shown an interest once all the TP things are over and dusted with!! Posted by dylan12
Dylan I'm well up for that mate.... should be a good crack! When you guys thinking of going up?
In my first game here, 4 of us left on the table, the lad with the least chips went all in before the flop, I called with my KQ suited (he didn't have a lot of chips left) and the girl to the left of me also called. The flop wasn't great for me but I thought I was still leading. The girl on the left checked so I put a bet in to force her to fold because I fancied my chances against 1 hand (who I thought was all in because he didn't have a great deal of chips left) rather than facing two hands. I honestly thought she might try checking all the way through. Turns out he won with his pair of 3's (hole cards(?)) (win some, lose some), but I got some abuse of the girl who folded because I stuck a bet in and still lost. I think I was correct in what I done, and to be honest i'd do it again (unless i'm told otherwise). Did I make the correct play? Incidently I ended up winning the game, so I stand by my actions, but it would be nice to hear the opinion of someone with more than a couple of days poker experience! Thanks again. Pete - 5caramanga Posted by 5caramanga
You had a bit of a reply to this, but I don't think it really told the whole story.
It's true that most of the time if a player is all in then other players in the hand won't really fight for the pot because they'd rather hope one of them hits something to knock the all in player out.
Understanding why people usually do this might help you decide when to go by this, and when to do as you did and just maximise your chances of winning the pot - because both options can be correct play depending on the circumstance.
Generally throughout the tournament what you're trying to do is to act in a way that maximises your chances of winning each hand - so you accumulate chips to put you in a stronger position.
But once you get particularly deep, another factor that can be taken into account isn't just how to win the most tournament chips - but how to win the most dollars/pounds/cold hard cash from the prize pool.
So if knocking out a player means that you are guaranteed to win more money (because he was knocked out on the bubble, or if everyone is already in the money and this moves you up one place) then it is often the case that it is to everyone's advantage (apart from the all in player) to not fight for the pot.
It isn't entirely clear cut though, if you're a long way from the bubble then it doesn't really help you win more cash, if the tournament pays the top few places a disportionate amount then you're likely to win the most money by trying to win the most chips (and win the tournament) and there are a number of other situations where the argument for trying to win the pot or trying to knock out the player will be quite finely balanced.
Essentially there was nothing technically wrong with how you played that hand in particular, and there would have been nothing technically wrong with checking down the hand to see if either one of you hit - it's all down to judgement as to what is to your best advantage.
No exact dates for DTD confirmed yet, so pretty flexible - but looking for a date in April? Mickjenn is also in having just messaged me - would be great for you guys to also be there - any dates in particular take anyones fancy?
No exact dates for DTD confirmed yet, so pretty flexible - but looking for a date in April? Mickjenn is also in having just messaged me - would be great for you guys to also be there - any dates in particular take anyones fancy? Posted by dylan12
Dylan.
Not everyone reads this thread, so why don't you start a new Thread, "Anyone fancy a Live Poker Day Out?" or somesuch?
If you do that, I'll pop up a Post which gives the dates in April of the different weekend comps they have, the costs of each, etc. I'll also let you know what dates I could get there in Aptil, & maybe we can have a bit of a fun day, or even weekend.
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : Dylan. Not everyone reads this thread, so why don't you start a new Thread, "Anyone fancy a Live Poker Day Out?" or somesuch? If you do that, I'll pop up a Post which gives the dates in April of the different weekend comps they have, the costs of each, etc. I'll also let you know what dates I could get there in Aptil, & maybe we can have a bit of a fun day, or even weekend. Posted by Tikay10
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : Hi DTD is Dusk til Dawn, a Casino in Nottingham where the SPT final is held, not sure if you need to be a member to play though. Posted by acebarry10
Thanks Barry. Yes, you need to be a Member - as you do at ANY "properly" Licensed venue.
By the bye, the nice peeps at DTD will have you shot if you refer to their place as a "Casino". It's a "Cardroom", not a Casino!
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Hogging the Forum? Dont be silly, as Mere suggested, they are excellent questions, which many are not confident enough to ask.
I hope those results keep coming for you.
There is also more to poker than "hand skills", & I think you have learned a great deal of those "other" skills since you've been here.
A few days back, speaking in praise of David Tuckman, you said "he made me realise I still have a lot to learn". And that means God help the rest of us, because once you accept that, there is no limit to where your game may take you.
I've also seen you donk off massive chip leads in Tourneys, & I've seen how much that hurt you, mentally. I don't think you'll do that again, either. lJAMESl used to have the same problem, a great chip-getter & an equally competent spewer. He changed that, & within weeks, scooped £50,000+.....
I note you swerved my DTD invite though.....;)
It's true that most of the time if a player is all in then other players in the hand won't really fight for the pot because they'd rather hope one of them hits something to knock the all in player out.
Understanding why people usually do this might help you decide when to go by this, and when to do as you did and just maximise your chances of winning the pot - because both options can be correct play depending on the circumstance.
Generally throughout the tournament what you're trying to do is to act in a way that maximises your chances of winning each hand - so you accumulate chips to put you in a stronger position.
But once you get particularly deep, another factor that can be taken into account isn't just how to win the most tournament chips - but how to win the most dollars/pounds/cold hard cash from the prize pool.
So if knocking out a player means that you are guaranteed to win more money (because he was knocked out on the bubble, or if everyone is already in the money and this moves you up one place) then it is often the case that it is to everyone's advantage (apart from the all in player) to not fight for the pot.
It isn't entirely clear cut though, if you're a long way from the bubble then it doesn't really help you win more cash, if the tournament pays the top few places a disportionate amount then you're likely to win the most money by trying to win the most chips (and win the tournament) and there are a number of other situations where the argument for trying to win the pot or trying to knock out the player will be quite finely balanced.
Essentially there was nothing technically wrong with how you played that hand in particular, and there would have been nothing technically wrong with checking down the hand to see if either one of you hit - it's all down to judgement as to what is to your best advantage.
if this is a live event i would be more than happy to come along.
cheers ash (mush22)
Not everyone reads this thread, so why don't you start a new Thread, "Anyone fancy a Live Poker Day Out?" or somesuch?
If you do that, I'll pop up a Post which gives the dates in April of the different weekend comps they have, the costs of each, etc. I'll also let you know what dates I could get there in Aptil, & maybe we can have a bit of a fun day, or even weekend.
DTD is Dusk til Dawn, a Casino in Nottingham where the SPT final is held, not sure if you need to be a member to play though.
By the bye, the nice peeps at DTD will have you shot if you refer to their place as a "Casino". It's a "Cardroom", not a Casino!