Great day to post my first entry. I played about 32 double or nothings total, but for some reason sharkscope only tracked the 20 or so this evening.
This evening's session started pretty horribly, but I was really glad to turn it around.
(+£49.50 for the day)
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Thanks to the league stars freeroll, I've won my way into the £5k roller tomorrow. Which I only luckboxed my way into after shoving Kx fairly deep from the sb and being called by 88.. Only to hit a king on the turn. Nevertheless I'm really looking forward to playing. Wouldn't even mind a min cash to go towards the Rolex. I'll probably end up playing the BH main and mini too.
Was going to post a couple of hands from today, but they aren't working for some reason. Will look into it and see if I can post them. Open to any questions people have for anything, ranging from general stuff to poker strat.
Probably one of the best reads in the forum. Great to have you here Pat. Good luck to you and I am looking forward to some updates on this thread. Cu at the tables. Posted by GreekWay
Stopped reading after 'one of the best reads in the forum'. Haha only joking. Thanks for the post it means a lot. Really hope I can post some exciting material including a few large cashes in the future.
In Response to Re: Patwalshh - My Ongoing Journey : Stopped reading after 'one of the best reads in the forum'. Haha only joking. Thanks for the post it means a lot. Really hope I can post some exciting material including a few large cashes in the future. Thanks again patwalshh Posted by patwalshh
I am totally honest Pat. It's a great opening post for a thread.
I wish you the best and I will have my eyes on you.
In Response to Re: Patwalshh - My Ongoing Journey : I am totally honest Pat. It's a great opening post for a thread. I wish you the best and I will have my eyes on you. Are you only grinding DoNs at the moment? Posted by GreekWay
I'm currently grinding a mixture of the £5.50 and £11 DONs. However, I currently feel as though I'm moving sideways instead of progressing. I find myself going into autopilot and just pressing buttons, instead of really thinking about my opponents range, and adapting to different individuals. If the traffic on the site was better, I'd be a lot more inclined to reduce the number of tables I play and focus on 6 higher buy in DONs.
EDIT: I saw in a different forum that you play chess?
In Response to Re: Patwalshh - My Ongoing Journey : I'm currently grinding a mixture of the £5.50 and £11 DONs. However, I currently feel as though I'm moving sideways instead of progressing. I find myself going into autopilot and just pressing buttons, instead of really thinking about my opponents range, and adapting to different individuals. If the traffic on the site was better, I'd be a lot more inclined to reduce the number of tables I play and focus on 6 higher buy in DONs. Posted by patwalshh
By playing these 5.50 and 11 DoNs how many points approximately do you generate a month?
How many tables are you playing on Sky?
I think couple of higher DoNs run on rush hours. Also at the end of the month many players use DoNs to boost their C4P.
In Response to Re: Patwalshh - My Ongoing Journey : By playing these 5.50 and 11 DoNs how many points approximately do you generate a month? How many tables are you playing on Sky? I think couple of higher DoNs run on rush hours. Also at the end of the month many players use DoNs to boost their C4P. Posted by GreekWay
At peak, I play 12 tables and tile them. There's a picture in the origional post of an example of this. I could probably play more, but I'm a massive fan of tiling the tables. I'm interested in buying a 30" monitor - but right now, I'm happy playing 12.
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In March I made priority club, so 10,000 points. But that was by playing 7 days a week, under the schedule of:
12.30pm - Load up 12 tables of a mixture of 11s/5.50s
5.50 pm- Load up 12 tables of a mixture of 11s/5.50s, and when down to 8, load up another 4 until a full 12 have been reloaded. Normally finishing the session at 7.15.
8pm - If I'm not feeling burnt out, load another mix of 12.
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But this month, I'm playing more of a relaxed schedule. Hoping to just reach between 6,500 and 7,000 points. I literally needed a few weeks off after March haha. I do notice a few more (weaker) regulars play DONs at the end of the month, but seemily doesn't make a substantial difference.
In Response to Re: Patwalshh - My Ongoing Journey : At peak, I play 12 tables and tile them. There's a picture in the origional post of an example of this. I could probably play more, but I'm a massive fan of tiling the tables. I'm interested in buying a 30" monitor - but right now, I'm happy playing 12. -- In March I made priority club, so 10,000 points. But that was by playing 7 days a week, under the schedule of: 12.30pm - Load up 12 tables of a mixture of 11s/5.50s 5.50 pm- Load up 12 tables of a mixture of 11s/5.50s, and when down to 8, load up another 4 until a full 12 have been reloaded. Normally finishing the session at 7.15. 8pm - If I'm not feeling burnt out, load another mix of 12. -- But this month, I'm playing more of a relaxed schedule. Hoping to just reach between 6,500 and 7,000 points. I literally needed a few weeks off after March haha. I do notice a few more (weaker) regulars play DONs at the end of the month, but seemily doesn't make a substantial difference. Posted by patwalshh
Seems a busy schedule to me. You should consider yourseld a rakeback pro then.
When you say load tables do you load a new one as soon as one finishes or you bust? Do you constanlty keep the number of tables to 12 whatever happens?
Have you thought of either playing some cash or give a few shots at MTTs? Everyone says that cash is the best way to grind and I completely agree.Also if you can put this kind of volume into cash, I think you could make more money in the long run.
In Response to Re: Patwalshh - My Ongoing Journey : Seems a busy schedule to me. You should consider yourseld a rakeback pro then. When you say load tables do you load a new one as soon as one finishes or you bust? Do you constanlty keep the number of tables to 12 whatever happens? Have you thought of either playing some cash or give a few shots at MTTs? Everyone says that cash is the best way to grind and I completely agree.Also if you can put this kind of volume into cash, I think you could make more money in the long run. Posted by GreekWay
I'd consider myself a relatively high volume player, as far as DON regs on the site go. I aim to make the same as I pay in rake, but over the long run I'm about 3% shy. I load up 12 tables, which typically takes about 15-20 minutes. And if it's the 5.30pm session (prime time/happy hour), I'll load up as soon as I'm down to 8. That way they all finish around the same time at the end of the session.
I definitely agree that cash is more profitable on the site. But as of right now, I feel I'm too spewey to play it. I definitely tilt at cash, which is something I feel I've alleviated from my sng game by 95%. If I did play cash, I'd want to play 30NL and above. As a goal, i'd love to become a 100NL HU specialist/reg, but right now that's just a dream. In terms of MTTs, I've started to encorporate the mains into my daily grind.
I'm in north wales (unfortunately) but I might be transferring to London for year 2!
Keep up the dym cashes, keeps the roll increasing at a fairly low variance
I agree cash is the most profitable method of the game on any site, obv on stars the field is much tougher but it's still the same on all sites, if you want to make a good profit in the long run cash is the thing to play!
100NL HU is pretty sick - I played some reg on stars a year or so ago and he was pretty good, aggro, knows where he is etc... that's a pretty tough and skillful thing to play! I wanna do the same as you, but 6max not HU!
I'm in north wales (unfortunately) but I might be transferring to London for year 2! Keep up the dym cashes, keeps the roll increasing at a fairly low variance I agree cash is the most profitable method of the game on any site, obv on stars the field is much tougher but it's still the same on all sites, if you want to make a good profit in the long run cash is the thing to play! 100NL HU is pretty sick - I played some reg on stars a year or so ago and he was pretty good, aggro, knows where he is etc... that's a pretty tough and skillful thing to play! I wanna do the same as you, but 6max not HU! Posted by percival09
Ahh London would be insane, best of luck.
I'd really like to branch out from DYMs, but for right now I'm happy with the low variance. HU is a different game entirely. I was playing on stars a couple weeks back and my shove got value called on the turn by a 200nl reg with 10high on a wet board lol. But one day it'd be nice to get some coaching and take a stab at it.
In Response to Re: Patwalshh - My Ongoing Journey : Thanks Shanxta, nice to have DON regs in this thread. Posted by patwalshh
Not nice to have him on your tables tho is it!
I'm playing mainly £16.50 and £22s dyms atm so i think ive been mainly avoiding you both thankfully lol. my overall ROI at £22 quid and above based on a small sample size of 167 is 15%. i think thats impossible to maintain tho...
I have not played enough yet at this level to get a true idea of how successful i am, but tbh there isnt a great deal of difference imo. I did play an £82.50 one last night.. that made me gulp a bit lol
good luck in your grind Pat, im enjoying this diary...
In Response to Re: Patwalshh - My Ongoing Journey : Not nice to have him on your tables tho is it! I'm playing mainly £22s dyms atm so i think ive been mainly avoiding you both thankfully lol. my overall ROI at £22 quid and above based on a small sample size of 167 is 15%. i think thats impossible to maintain tho... I have not played enough yet at this level to get a true idea of how successful i am, but tbh there isnt a great deal of difference imo. I did play an £82.50 one last night.. that made me gulp a bit lol good luck in your grind Pat, im enjoying this diary... GREGHOGG 73 $6 $40 22% $417 - N/A SkyPoker <12Mths S30-200 G=H Double or Nothing SNG Only Posted by GREGHOGG
Not nice indeed! Best of luck in the Dym's Greg. I saw you reg'd in a £16.50 yesterday, but I thought I'd stick with my fishies at the 5s and 10s ha.
In terms of the winrate, I've had mine fluxuate a lot. It started at something insane like 15% for both stakes over the first few hundred games. But over a larger sample 2000+ I think your looking at between 3-7%, especially at the higher stakes (depending on how well you table select etc)
In Response to Re: Patwalshh - My Ongoing Journey : Not nice indeed! Best of luck in the Dym's Greg. I saw you reg'd in a £16.50 yesterday, but I thought I'd stick with my fishies at the 5s and 10s ha. In terms of the winrate, I've had mine fluxuate a lot. It started at something insane like 15% for both stakes over the first few hundred games. But over a larger sample 2000+ I think your looking at between 3-7%, especially at the higher stakes (depending on how well you table select etc) Posted by patwalshh
Thanks mate, and gl to u too.
My ROI is about 6% for lower stakes based on a proper sample of 4k games..
and its at 12% for everything above £16.50 (based on a small sample of 350 games) This is not sustainable though, i would expect it to drop rapidly if i continue to play these levels...
There are losing players and losing regs at the £16.50 level plus, if you use scope this allows you to table select a little bit.
In Response to Re: Patwalshh - My Ongoing Journey : Thanks mate, and gl to u too. My ROI is about 6% for lower stakes based on a proper sample of 4k games.. and its at 12% for everything above £16.50 (based on a small sample of 350 games) This is not sustainable though, i would expect it to drop rapidly if i continue to play these level... There are losing players and losing regs at the £16.50 level plus, if you use scope this allows you to table select to a small extent. Posted by GREGHOGG
Sounds like you've got your head firmly screwed on regarding expected roi and sample sizes. I'm sure you'll crush. Your right about the regs, some of the games are juicy. I sharkscoped a high stakes DON (£55+) reg the other day, and he was like -$60,000 dollars over 3k games. Incredible.
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Problem for you not uploading Hands may be to do with your choice of internet browser. You need to use Internet Explorer if you want to post hand histories. Nice read by the way. Posted by 68Trebor
Thanks, I'll try internet explorer. Currently failing with crome atm.
I promised myself I'd update this on the bad days and the good. So here goes. On my last entry, I explained how I had freerolled into the 5k Roller and planned to play the 12k BH and Mini alongside. For once, I just wanted to play good, get nice cards and not get into tilting situations. None of which, went to plan.
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Busted early out of the BH after my 1010 got outdrawn by 55 after getting aipf. And to make matters worse, got destroyed by fish in the Roller. Tilting situations, such as them limp calling A6 and outflopping me. Thought I'd give the £22 DYMs a shot and played about 4 of them, along with a few £16.50 DYMs. Running beyond bad and got coolered in so many situations. One scenario was on the bubble of a £22 DYM during 75/150 blinds:
Reg open shoves <10bb pf. The big stack calls in the sb, and I call in the BB with AA. Board runs out JJxxx and show AA. The sb shows 1010. And the reg with the <10bb stack ships the pot with J10. gnasgknaiosngaiogsnasipngas.
Although the session was painful, the £22s are a lot softer than I expected, and seemed to have the same REG/Fish ratio as the £11s/£5.5s. If they ran as often as the £11s I'd definitely play them as my sole game. But right now, that just isn't possible. After that awful session I got tilted and played HU cash. Didn't go well.
(-£160 for the day)
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Today I woke up refreshed and ready to grind. Started perfectly and after 12 games was up £40. Even after getting coolered in the HU bh tournament 3 times in a row when I should have won it.
But then doomswitch. Had the two most frustrating £5 DON session of my life. Made worse by Skypoker's software completely spazzing out. Games weren't loading and I got blinded out in a few that wouldn't load. However, I phoned the Priority team, and to my surprise, were superb. Refunding me like 2 buy ins, which I thought was very fair.
At one point it was only after coming back from very average chip stacks and winning the last 5 in a row that saved me from serious harm. Just complete set ups, that make me want to cry. Nevertheless, still a +£ day so I can't complain. #firstworldproblems
I'm ready to put some serious volume in this weekend.
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I'd really like to branch out from DYMs, but for right now I'm happy with the low variance. HU is a different game entirely. I was playing on stars a couple weeks back and my shove got value called on the turn by a 200nl reg with 10high on a wet board lol. But one day it'd be nice to get some coaching and take a stab at it.
I'm playing mainly £16.50 and £22s dyms atm so i think ive been mainly avoiding you both thankfully lol. my overall ROI at £22 quid and above based on a small sample size of 167 is 15%. i think thats impossible to maintain tho...
I have not played enough yet at this level to get a true idea of how successful i am, but tbh there isnt a great deal of difference imo. I did play an £82.50 one last night.. that made me gulp a bit lol
good luck in your grind Pat, im enjoying this diary...
My ROI is about 6% for lower stakes based on a proper sample of 4k games..
and its at 12% for everything above £16.50 (based on a small sample of 350 games) This is not sustainable though, i would expect it to drop rapidly if i continue to play these levels...
There are losing players and losing regs at the £16.50 level plus, if you use scope this allows you to table select a little bit.
(Having a lot of trouble uploading hand histories so posting as pictures for now)