You need to be logged in to your Sky Poker account above to post discussions and comments.
You might need to refresh your page afterwards.
Please note that these forums will no longer be available after we migrate to iPoker on Tuesday, May 27th. We thank you for being part of this amazing community and hope to see you on our new site.
tikay whats the best way to play aq Posted by scrumdown
That depends on so many things, & I can't give a realistic answer without knowing a number of things. There are many different answers - all of them right - because it depends on the circumstances.
Before I list some of the variables, please remember one thing - AQ - or any other hand - must never be played a set way - ever - because it depends on the variables. What is right in one case, is 100% wrong in another. So when books say "play A-Q THIS way, or THAT way", ignore them - it's complete & utter nonsense. You have to weigh up the variables, & make a decision based on them.
Understanding that concept is KEY to anyone trying to improve there game.
The variables - or some of them - are......
Position
Cash or Tourney.
Position
The Table dynamic - Passive, Aggro, Mixed.
Position
Relative stack sizes.
Position.
If in a Tourney, what stage - early, middle or late?
Position
If in a Tourney, how many Big Blinds do you have?
Position
If in a Tourney, how deep are you?
Position
6 seater Table or 10 seater Table?
And in EVERY case - has there already been a limper, or an Aggressive action? (An Aggressive action is a Raise or Re-Raise, NOT a limp).
There are other variables, too.
The short answer - taking into account all the above - is that.....
It is a great hand to RAISE with, if there has not been an aggro action already, & especially with Position.
Except in certain situations, it is NOT a good hand to Call with, almost ever.
Finally, many players play A-J, A-Q & A-K very strongly, quite right too. You must remember, though, how common these big Aces are. There are SIXTEEN ways of holding A-K, & sixteen ways of holding A-Q, ditto A-J, ditto A-10. So, if you have A-Q, there is a good chance you may run into A-K. Then you are crushed. To get this in context, there are only 6 ways of holding any Pair.
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : That depends on so many things, & I can't give a realistic answer without knowing a number of things. There are many different answers - all of them right - because it depends on the circumstances. Before I list some of the variables, please remember one thing - AQ - or any other hand - must never be played a set way - ever - because it depends on the variables. What is right in one case, is 100% wrong in another. So when books say "play A-Q THIS way, or THAT way", ignore them - it's complete & utter nonsense. You have to weigh up the variables, & make a decision based on them. Understanding that concept is KEY to anyone trying to improve there game. The variables - or some of them - are...... Position Cash or Tourney. Position The Table dynamic - Passive, Aggro, Mixed. Position Relative stack sizes. Position. If in a Tourney, what stage - early, middle or late? Position If in a Tourney, how many Big Blinds do you have? Position If in a Tourney, how deep are you? Position 6 seater Table or 10 seater Table? And in EVERY case - has there already been a limper, or an Aggressive action? (An Aggressive action is a Raise or Re-Raise, NOT a limp). There are other variables, too. The short answer - taking into account all the above - is that..... It is a great hand to RAISE with, if there has not been an aggro action already, & especially with Position. Except in certain situations, it is NOT a good hand to Call with, almost ever. Finally, many players play A-J, A-Q & A-K very strongly, quite right too. You must remember, though, how common these big Aces are. There are SIXTEEN ways of holding A-K, & sixteen ways of holding A-Q, ditto A-J, ditto A-10. So, if you have A-Q, there is a good chance you may run into A-K. Then you are crushed. To get this in context, there are only 6 ways of holding any Pair. So, not much help that, was it?! Posted by Tikay10
When & where did Barry Post that? - I must have missed it, & would like to reply. It's not widely known, but I have more than a passing interest in transport matters, especially Railway locomotion, rolling stock, catenery, & permanent way. Posted by Tikay10
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : Crikey, what a question! I don't know, to be honest. I had a quick think, & I came up with a 23 outer, but I'm sure there are better ones. My first thought was something like 3-3 (both black) v A of hearts & King of Diamonds, on a Flop & turn of 9-T-T-J (3 hearts). So the 3-3 is winning, but has to dodge...... 9 hearts 3 x Aces 2 x Kings 3 x Queens 3 x 9's (assume the existjng 9 is a heart) 3 x J's (assume the existing J is a heart) Can anyone come up with more? Posted by Tikay10
Hope this is right, but I think I can get 25
Assume opponent has 3-3 (both black)
Other player has 9 10 Hearts
Board shows 8 8 7 4 ( assume 8 and 7 of hearts)
So the pocket 3's need to dodge
8 hearts
3 6's
3 j's
3 9's
3 t's
3 7's
2 4's
Edited after BigBlusters post to take into account 3 H
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : Hope this is right, but I think I can get 26 Assume opponent has 3-3 (both black) Other player has 9 10 Hearts Board shows 8 8 J 4 ( assume 8 and j of hearts) So the pocket 3's need to dodge 9 hearts 3 7's 3 q's 3 j's 3 9's 3 t's 2 4's Posted by Aski
That's a great one! And the drawing hand would still only be a very small favourite to win - 52% to 44%. (4% to chop).
Weve been fortunate to find two exceptionally good replacements in Sarah Champion, & Lisa Marie Long, both of whom play on the Site quite a lot, & have quickly become very popular with the players.
Sarah Champion will be at the Newcastle Leg of the SPT, as will D P Fitzgerald, & Lisa will be at at least one of the SPT Legs.
I think this is 23 - TK's above is only 22 as the 3h would make a house 8h9h v 3c3s Flop 7h6h6d 8 hearts 3 tens 3 fives 3 eights 3 nines 3 sevens Posted by BigBluster
Doh! You are quite correct.
But Aski has come up with a 26 outer now! Or should it be 25 outer?
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : Hope this is right, but I think I can get 26 Assume opponent has 3-3 (both black) Other player has 9 10 Hearts Board shows 8 8 J 4 ( assume 8 and j of hearts) So the pocket 3's need to dodge 9 hearts 3 7's 3 q's 3 j's 3 9's 3 t's 2 4's Posted by Aski
the 4s would be a split and the 3h would make a house.
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : That's a great one! And the drawing hand would still only be a very small favourite to win - 52% to 44%. (4% to chop). Posted by Tikay10
hmmm just done the calculation myself and I knew the drawing hand would have about 52% chance of winning, but I cant see what card could come to make it a chop, hence I dont understand why the chop is 4%
Aha ignore that post now Ive just seen BB's post and I can see the split now
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : Hope this is right, but I think I can get 23 Assume opponent has 3-3 (both black) Other player has 9 10 Hearts Board shows 8 8 J 4 ( assume 8 and j of hearts) So the pocket 3's need to dodge 8 hearts 3 7's 3 q's 3 j's 3 9's 3 t's Edited after BigBlusters post to take into account 3 H makes a full house and both non heart 4's would be a split Posted by Aski
The answer is 25. The 3h is no good since it makes a full house and beats the flush.
Comments
Before I list some of the variables, please remember one thing - AQ - or any other hand - must never be played a set way - ever - because it depends on the variables. What is right in one case, is 100% wrong in another. So when books say "play A-Q THIS way, or THAT way", ignore them - it's complete & utter nonsense. You have to weigh up the variables, & make a decision based on them.
Understanding that concept is KEY to anyone trying to improve there game.
The variables - or some of them - are......
Position
Cash or Tourney.
Position
The Table dynamic - Passive, Aggro, Mixed.
Position
Relative stack sizes.
Position.
If in a Tourney, what stage - early, middle or late?
Position
If in a Tourney, how many Big Blinds do you have?
Position
If in a Tourney, how deep are you?
Position
6 seater Table or 10 seater Table?
And in EVERY case - has there already been a limper, or an Aggressive action? (An Aggressive action is a Raise or Re-Raise, NOT a limp).
There are other variables, too.
The short answer - taking into account all the above - is that.....
It is a great hand to RAISE with, if there has not been an aggro action already, & especially with Position.
Except in certain situations, it is NOT a good hand to Call with, almost ever.
Finally, many players play A-J, A-Q & A-K very strongly, quite right too. You must remember, though, how common these big Aces are. There are SIXTEEN ways of holding A-K, & sixteen ways of holding A-Q, ditto A-J, ditto A-10. So, if you have A-Q, there is a good chance you may run into A-K. Then you are crushed. To get this in context, there are only 6 ways of holding any Pair.
So, not much help that, was it?!
What is the most possible "outs" after the "turn" with any given cards?
I don't know, to be honest.
I had a quick think, & I came up with a 23 outer, but I'm sure there are better ones.
My first thought was something like 3-3 (both black) v A of hearts & King of Diamonds, on a Flop & turn of 9-T-T-J (3 hearts).
So the 3-3 is winning, but has to dodge......
9 hearts
3 x Aces
2 x Kings
3 x Queens
3 x 9's (assume the existjng 9 is a heart)
3 x J's (assume the existing J is a heart)
Can anyone come up with more?
Lol, you will find it on page 6 3rd thread
Assume opponent has 3-3 (both black)
Other player has 9 10 Hearts
Board shows 8 8 7 4 ( assume 8 and 7 of hearts)
So the pocket 3's need to dodge
8 hearts
3 6's
3 j's
3 9's
3 t's
3 7's
2 4's
Edited after BigBlusters post to take into account 3 H
Weve been fortunate to find two exceptionally good replacements in Sarah Champion, & Lisa Marie Long, both of whom play on the Site quite a lot, & have quickly become very popular with the players.
Sarah Champion will be at the Newcastle Leg of the SPT, as will D P Fitzgerald, & Lisa will be at at least one of the SPT Legs.
8h9h v 3c3sFlop 7h6h6d8 hearts 3 tens3 fives3 eights3 nines3 sevens
But Aski has come up with a 26 outer now! Or should it be 25 outer?
Aha ignore that post now Ive just seen BB's post and I can see the split now
The 3h is no good since it makes a full house and beats the flush.